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[ERROR] No.13776663 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

Goddammit Eliphas, people die whey then are killed.

Can chaos really bring people back from the dead? Seems like bullshit to me, the gods could just bring back Horus again and again until the Imperium got rolled.

>> No.13776672

DoW is way better than DoW2

>> No.13776680

why cant they bring back SINDRIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!

>> No.13776688

Horus's soul got destroyed. No really, it literally got destroyed by the Emperor.
So yeah.

>> No.13776698

It seems almost uncanny that the devs would create such a giant plot hole as this.

An inconsistency of this magnitude would require some kind of tactical geniu-


>> No.13776719

They said destroyed.

I prefer to imagine "Absorbed."

>> No.13776720

That Slaanesh special character is all about reincarnations. I forget his name. They don't just bring back anyone though - Eliphas had to whore out to Nurgle after dying to Khorne in spectacular fashion. /tg/'s own (seemingly forgotten) Cultist-chan also runs on the reincarnation 'blessing'.

>> No.13776732


That is EXTRA heretical.

>> No.13776735

Damnit Eliphas, you kinda stopped being Eliphas in Chaos Rising. Where was the subtle brilliance, Eliphas? The cool, calm composure? All I saw was SINDRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.

>> No.13776736

Yeah, the Chaos gods can bring just about anyone back from the dead. How do you think they still have veterans from the Heresy left after all these millennia?

Except for Horus. Emps owned him so completely that his soul was destroyed. There's nothing left to resurrect.

>> No.13776738

because power demands sacrifice

>> No.13776754

It's Chaos.
We ain't gotta explain shit!

>> No.13776758

IIRC his name is Lucius and he likes to duel people.

>> No.13776766


Lets see you keep your composure after I shove your soul in an ethereal room filled with the demonic spirits of Nurgle as part of a traditional ritual to share Grandfather's love with a new disciple. In the ass.

>> No.13776775

he managed to sacrifice a whole world for some hurr ultimate daemon who never does anything.

what did eliphas do? epicfail at cronus and run away to a new legion.

probably tzeentch: just as planned

>> No.13776791

If I am not mistaken the Chaos gods bringing dudes back to life is not unprecedented.

As to Horus yeah the emprah was so mad when he found out that Ollanius Pius was retconed that he erased Horus's soul from existance.

>> No.13776800

Kharn died during the Siege of the Imperial Palace, collapsed on a mound of Loyalist dead but the World Eaters dragged his corpse back to their ships, the only body they recovered.
The Apothecaries were sure he was dead on Terra, but they discovered he yet breathed after the WE escaped.
Khorne brought The Betrayer back to life, to spill more blood for the Lord of Skulls.

>> No.13776817

Kharn was actually brought back on account of what a swell guy he was. Khorne couldn't bear the thought of leaving the Materium without such a paragon of decency and good humour.

>> No.13776826

To be fair, Eliphas in Chaos Rising did manage to kill a Black Legion champion and steal his warband.

That's a lot more scheming than say, Lord Crull

>> No.13776836

Yeah a soul is a form of energy, and Science will tell you that it can't be destroyed outright, it just transfers to another state.

>> No.13776841

that's the price for the rarely seen triple heresy

>> No.13776842

We don't talk about what Soulstorm did to the Alpha Legion. Reduced from some of the most impressive non-Tzeentchian, non-what-a-dick-Eldrad justasplanned.tifing about to METAL BAWKSES! THE COWARDS! THE FEWWWWWWLS!...uuuugh.

>> No.13776851

That karn, Pretty cool guy.

>> No.13776855

>he brings science into this

>> No.13776901


goddamn it, you've tempted me to work towards finishing one of the two Dark Crusade campaigns I haven't completed (lol Tau, lol Eldar) rather than the sacred rites of activation on my new Land Raider.

>> No.13776942

Well Eliphas lost his army after Cronus and own Nurgle big time for the resurrection thing. So Chaos Rising was basically about him sucking dicks to gain back some of his power. First it was Araghast, then Ulkair and finally Abaddon.

>> No.13776960

>invoking science
>implying souls exist in the same sentence

>> No.13776969


First Khorne, then Tzeentch at some point, who then sent him over to Nurgle to fuck up his plan for that ice planet. I predict he'll have two more appearances in DoW lore - one after his inevitable defeat with the Black Legion, and his last being with Slaanesh before his soul is consumed by the Tower of Rape for all time.

>> No.13776999

They tried to clone Horus, but Abaddon burned his corpse.

>> No.13777020

Don't forget Malal! So that's at least two more humiliating failures he can achieve.

>> No.13777064


He's called Malice now, get your shit straight.

>> No.13777080

But... I thought Abbadon was a clone of Horus.

>> No.13777339

I refuse to believe that the Eliphas in DoW 2 was the original one.

Actually, I believe the real Eliphas is somewhere suffering in the warp. To add up to his suffering, they send up an impostor to destroy his image (in other words, real Eliphas has witnessed the whole DoW 2 affair).

>> No.13777382

Eliphas had tox trade his sexy voice to the dark gods in order to be reborn

>> No.13777529

Maybe Eliphas is a title?

>> No.13777544

I thought the Inheritor is his title. Bob the Eliphas?

>> No.13777567

Maybe Eliphas is a title and the 'title' at the end of it is the way they distinguish between the Eliphas'. So it would be:

'Eliphas the Almost competent'
'Eliphas the Disappointing'
'Eliphas the Reckless'
'Eliphas the Inheritor'
'Eliphas the smells-like-cheese'

That sort of thing.

>> No.13777579

So he still has his shit-tier voice in Retribution? Cocks.

>> No.13777587

Guess that could work. But why would they gain the title of Eliphas?

>> No.13777593

I just don't understand how they're all like 'He Black Legion now.' Eliphas was clearly one of those Word Bearer chaplain-dudes, he wouldn't hop legions, and it's not like the Black Legion would accept him as one of their own, as he doesn't have Horus's gene-seed. They'd accept his authority by virtue of asskicking, but they certainly wouldn't accept him into the Legion.

>> No.13777598

What the deal with Dark Apostles anyway? Eliphas seem to prefer sorcery over guns or hand to hand combat. Are they just shitter sorcerers?

>> No.13777601

Horus can't be brought back due to his soul being obliterated by the Empz. But yeah they can do mostly what they like. But, they don't tend to bring many people back. Well, if they failed you why should they?

>> No.13777614

Killed ?
I thought the deamon-prince send him back to that prison when he failed in Dark Crusade

>> No.13777650

>horus soul killed
But it was alive before! And chaos has time travel!

>> No.13777651


nope, the Basilica of Torments is reserved for those who can redeem themselves

>> No.13777773

You know what I would like to see, a DoW game where Blood Raven have to fight Thousand Sons where Thousand Sons constantly troll them by wearing their all red pre-Heresy armour and calling them brothers.

Failing that a rape marines chaos campaign.

>> No.13777779

And they said Tau wasn't going to be in the game

>> No.13777790

Thugnaught on-line

>> No.13777795

Emprah Lenin disapproves.

>> No.13777827

I loled heartily

>> No.13778351

Now I'm confused. Is this Warhammer or some unholy combination of Star Wars and C&C?

>> No.13778361


...and 2000AD. You can't forget that.

>> No.13778368

The Imperial Guard is based on the stereotype of the Red Army crushing the enemy with their numbers, "motivated" by Commissars, so that is actually quite fitting.

>> No.13778376

Is every unit this customizable for color schemes? Like how easy would it be to make a traitor Guard army to play online?

>> No.13778395


C-can't it be both?

>> No.13778404

Can someone dump a few badges? Looking for the SS-badge in particular for maximum overdrive Guardsmen.

>> No.13778405

I can imagine that butthurt when somebody decides to use swastika as his army badge.

Not that I have anything against swastikas, but...

>> No.13778428

Curse the fact we can't have decals or patterns because these guys with a % or $ flag would be awesome

>> No.13778432

just claim you're Buddhist

>> No.13778457

>playing war game
Does not compute.

>> No.13778500

It's no worse than claiming they're Amish.

>> No.13778514

Or a Finn.

>> No.13778516

Horus' soul was destroyed so utterly that it's impossible to time travel to a time where Horus existed

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>> No.13778530

The Emperor himself. See that one episode of Futurama where Fry freezes himself. It's kind of like that.

>> No.13778561

No SS badge, sorry. I know somebody did one last night though. All I have is the old Space Sharks one and one I did myself of the Star Phantoms from IA10.

>> No.13778571

Because of the blue/white/black, I saw the Fantastic Four logo at first.

>> No.13778580

Can anybody help me out? I'm trying to get a Blue mountain state badge for my orks, and I don't know how to make it the proper size, etc

>> No.13778587

U angry?

>> No.13778602

Would this be good enough?

>> No.13778617


>the gods could just bring back Horus again

Wasn't it said in the fluff that Horus' soil was destroyed with such fierceness by the Emprah that even the 4 chaos gods were terrified?

>> No.13778622

Could someone do me a favour? I suck with image editing, and I'd like the marker symbol in the middle here as a badge. I got the full pic, since I thought that might be better quality for you gents to work with.

Thanks in advance!

>> No.13778625

I'll try it out now, thanks

>> No.13778629

yes but abaddon is a clone in the sense of boba fett, No accelerated growth shit, raised by his "father" etc. (OH GOD I ACTUALLY USED SOMETHING FROM EPISODES 1-3 in a meaningful fashion)

>> No.13778631

Now he'll never grow plants again.

>> No.13778636

Like this?

>> No.13778644

How is everyone using the new army painter? I haven't really kept up with DoW2 or /tg/ lately.

>> No.13778654

What do you mean? Eliphas was never killed.

In Dark Crusade, he was seized by daemons and tortured for his mistakes. In Chaos Rising, he escaped before facing death.

>> No.13778655

Oh my lord.

>> No.13778661

The Black Legion accepts any old scrub, they collect ex-loyalists and Chaos marines who've ditched other legions all the time.

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>> No.13778666

A little fat, but PERFECT for this purpose! (It might be too small if skinny)

Thank you so much! Fractal Heuristic Replicating Crystal Chaos Marines are go!

>> No.13778678

How's it now?

>> No.13778757


>> No.13778768

What are these screenshots from? It seems like an army painter program but I've never seen one before (new to /tg/)

>> No.13778791

Huh, I guess I was wrong! It looks even better!

Thank you so much, STALKER!

>> No.13778799

Dawn of war 2: Retribution

Video Game being releaced 11th of march. pics are from the beta

>> No.13778800

It's from Dawn of War 2: Retribution.
Glad I could help.

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>> No.13778968

Oh okay. I initially thought it was DoW but the Army Painter stuff confused me. Thanks guys.

>> No.13778982

Wait, did they actually say they wont make a Tau expansion!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>> No.13779608

It is... beautiful

>> No.13779657

Havent been paying attention to the fluff I see.

Yes, Chaos can and will bring back those it deems worthy/ amusing to be reincarnated.
Lucius the Eternal for example, best swordsman since dawn of Great Crusade, but finally met his end by (insert name for I dont remember it), Slaanesh was like "meh this new champion doesn't have enough character" so he made Lucius reborn inside that new guy taking over his body and soul.

Emperor used his last strenght aboard Vengeful Spirit to completely incinerate Horus and Horus' soul just to stop Chaos ever use Horus as their Champion again.

>> No.13779952

Lucius reincarnates in the body of anyone that kills him and takes joy from it.

He would have to die to a Necron.

>> No.13780581


No, they don't. In order to be in any of the Legions you have to have had the gene-seed of their primarch, full stop. No-one's ever jumped from chapter to chapter; some have split off on their own like Fabius Bile or been formed into new chapters, but it's literally never happened before.

>> No.13780709


Uhh, yes they do. How do you think their numbers have swelled? It even has pictures in the god-damned codex of Khorne Berzerkers (where it says they're from the World Eater's Legion) painted in Black Legion colors, except for a few parts of their old color scheme showing through.

>> No.13780756


Not all berzerkers come from the World Eaters; the Black Legion is specifically noted as having some, along with some plague marines and noise marines.

>> No.13780768


But the examples listed in the codex specifically list them as saying that they're from the World Eaters.

Hell, there are even Thousand Sons painted in BL colors - and Rubric Marines only come from one place.

>> No.13780800


Then someone fucked up. Wouldn't be the first time.

>> No.13780826


>I don't like that fluff so it's not true.

It's Chaos, man. Change, mutability, and treachery are pretty important components of that. People flock to and swear allegiance to the most powerful Warmasters quite a lot. That includes joining more powerful/influential Legions - it happens more often with Renegade Space Marines than those of the original traitors, but it happens nonetheless.

>> No.13780848

46th weeaboo

>> No.13781116


This is only in the most recent codex, which is all about 'renegades hurr durr.' Excuse me if I assume the Legions work the way they did for decades previously.

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>> No.13782378


But where in the fluff did it say that that was the way the Traitor Legions worked? I've been playing 40k for a long time, and it seems to me that the name of the game has always been "follow the coolest leader".

>> No.13782415


They'll follow the coolest leader, to be sure, but that doesn't mean they'll change legions or that they'd be interested in other CSM joining their legions. Remember, these guys rebelled because their loyalty to their legions was stronger than their loyalty to the Imperium; their loyalty to their Legion is certainly stronger than their loyalty to the 'cause' of Chaos.

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