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OUR FLEET OF VOIDSHIPS HAS COMPLETED IT'S JOURNEY ACROSS UNIVERSES TO BEGIN THE CONQUEST AND STERILIZATION OF YOUR PATHETIC CIVILIZATIONS. WE ARE THE DA-LEKS, THE SUPREME FORM OF INTELLIGENT LIFE EVER DESIGNED. WE HAVE SWEPT ACROSS COUNTLESS WORLDS, EXTER-MI-NATING ALL INFERIOR LIFE FORMS. AFTER CENTURIES OF SEARCHING WE HAVE FOUND THIS GALAXY IN THIS UNIVERSE, INHABITED BY THE BLOATED REMNANTS OF SICK AND IGNORANT CULTURES. WE HAVE DECLARED YOUR INFESTATION INTOLERABLE. THIS GALAXY SHALL SERVE AS THE INITIAL PLATFORM FROM WHICH WE WILL CONQUER THIS UNIVERSE! PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR ANNIHILATION INHABITANTS OF THE MILKY WAY GALAXY. BY ORDER OF THE EMPEROR OF THE DALEKS, YOU WILL EXTERMINAATED!!!

>> No.13021387

-Just the Facts, Ma'am.
Daleks could destroy every living thing in the Warhammer Universe without breaking a sweat.
-A single Dalek could kill wave after wave of Marines single handedly. One Dalek can level a building, and teams of Daleks are basically terraforming teams, capable of making smoking craters out of entire continents. Even Ultramarines would only be able to take down two Daleks at best, before they're vaporized from orbit.
- Think a full on Orc WAAAGGHH is terrifying? The pure and endless hatred of a single Dalek screaming EXTERMINATE would probably kill every Psyker for light years. And don't even get me started on their tenacity. Even committing complete and utter Genocide against the Daleks will only buy you a few weeks at best, before they come back bigger and more dangerous than a fresh group of Orc spores.

>> No.13021391

- Chaso, Eldar and Tyranid ain't got nothing on Daleks. When the Daleks went to war against the Time Lords, the most powerful beings in the Doctor Who universe, God-Like entities like the Eternals fled in fear or were devastated by the ferocity of their fighting. Indeed, the Daleks and their abominable weapons were so dangerous to the God-Like Time Lords that the only plan they could think to use was COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF TIME AND SPACE. Not to mention that Daleks have FTL systems that don't require dangerous trips through the Warp.
- Before the Time War, Daleks conquered at the least three entire Galaxies. They have complete control of three times the resources anyone could muster from the one. Hell, no one faction in 40k even has complete galactic control.
- Weird Time Shit. Daleks have Time Travel. Even though it's been shown to be very random and simple at times, it's still eons ahead of anything the Imperium could ever build. They could go back in time and kill the Emperor as a child, and prevent the rise of the Elder gods.
-No Hope. The only person consistently capable of defeating the Daleks is the Doctor. There isn't enough hope, ingenuity, cleverness or brilliance in the 40k universe to compare to Doctor's pinky finger. No hope, no Doctor, no Doctor, no victory against the Daleks.

Face it, Warhammer, you haven't got a hope in hell against the Dalek war machine.

>> No.13021402

This is a fixed point in time. I'm not saving you. Maybe if you'd changed, and grown, maybe there could have been a chance.

I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. But everything has an end.

>> No.13021409

>Doctor Who

>> No.13021413

>durrr my ficticious race is better than ur ficticious race hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>> No.13021422

OH LOOK, ITS THIS THREAD AGAIN.

>> No.13021423

If a clever guy with a magic screwdriver can destroy an entire fleet of them, I think thousands upon thousands of battleships larger than small stars with guns more comparable to a supernova than a weapon, and crew tempered by centuries of battle, that have become one with the machine, could basically fuck the daleks in their trashcan asses.

I mean, hell, conventional solid projectile weapons, if fired in a concentrated enough fashion, can destroy a dalek. Image what a deathwatch team with armor penetrating heavy bolters can do. Or a terminator squad with assault cannons and storm bolters. Or several thousand guardsmen.

The Imperium is no stranger to using unnecessary amounts of force.

>> No.13021431

Every single post in this thread so far is true. Every single one of them.

>> No.13021436

>>13021391
>>13021387
Daleks will get nerfed in the next patch, there too OP

>> No.13021444

Orks have finally found something that you can krump so long...

>> No.13021447

>>13021423
The Doctor wins through brains. Nobody in 40k knows what those are for or how they're supposed to be used.

>> No.13021450

>>13021423

He's not
> a clever guy

He's
> the lonely god

>> No.13021452

>>13021373
>WE ARE THE DA-LEKS, THE SUPREME FORM OF INTELLIGENT LIFE EVER DESIGNED.
Spot the grammar error.

>> No.13021480

>>13021447
>creed

>> No.13021484

>>13021373
The Necrons would come in and save all their livestock

>> No.13021495

This thread is now about Dalek puns.

>> No.13021505

>>13021450

WAS the lonely god. Now he's reduced to "clever guy" status again.

>> No.13021508

>> No.13021521

>>13021495
We need to treat this very daleketly.

>> No.13021549

>> No.13021579

>> No.13021584

>>13021423

>Battleships the size of small stars

Four Daleks are capable of blowing up suns for the sheer purpose of opening a fancy prison door. Each individual Dalek is smarted than every citizen of the Imperium combined. If you respond with a massive fleet, they will outmaneuver and outhink the lumbering battleships that humanity barely understands.Even if they decide to fight you with their own brawn, their sheer endless numbers will be more than enough to overwhelm the Imperium.

>> No.13021594

dalek-ettes

>> No.13021611

did you hear about the dalek chef his dishes were dalektable

>> No.13021709

Can't Chaos corrupt machines?

Dalek vs Chaos Dalek time.

>> No.13021735

>>13021373

Guess what the Emprah has been sitting on for so long?

>> No.13021769

>>13021423

The Daleks are the end point of might makes right, strength through purity, violence as a problem solving technique mindset. You can't beat them with guns and bombs and hatred because they have better ships, bigger bombs and more hatred. This is the point of the Daleks in Doctor Who, they exist as a force that must be met with intelligence, planning, and co-operation. "We must love each other or we must die", that's the choice the Daleks represent, in stark screaming terms.

But this is just arguing thematically, which I suppose is inappropriate for 40K v Other Universe fanwank.

>> No.13021798

>>13021769

Fanwank is Funwank. I like the Thematic discussions just as much as the in-universe ones.

>> No.13021806

>>13021594
I'd show them my sonic screwdriver if you know what i mean

>> No.13021831

>>13021709
Daleks aren't robots kid

>> No.13021865

>> No.13021879

>>13021798

The point is that such a choice doesn't make sense in 40K. 40K is at it's best an over the top gothic space opera, and at it's worst, it's Johnny's first fascist power fantasy. So having a race that represents the apotheosis of an authoritarian might makes right mindset doesn't work with the 40K universe. You ether have to reduce them to making sense in 40K universe terms, in which case they're just another big bad that's going to smash the galaxy at some point in the indeterminate but near future, or you have to change the 40K universe so that various races actually can co-operate to fight them.

It's like Superman vs Muhammad Ali, no matter what you're doing with the story you're fatally undermining someone's credibility.

>> No.13021886

>>13021769
Using the word thematically is inappropriate for communicating with 40k fans.

>> No.13021900

>>13021484
The lesser races are mine, foolish things. Come, learn why they fear my image as that of death.

>> No.13021902

>>13021709
....watch some doctor who, start with christopher eccelson, david tennant and then matt smith

or just start with matt smith then watch the first two.

>> No.13021908

>>13021594
I'd get bigger on the inside...if you know what i mean.

>> No.13021940

>>13021831
All the better for Chaotic corruption. Daleks are Tzeentchian to their core.

>> No.13021954

>>13021940
That's not the point he was just pointing out that daleks aren't machines which is what the first guy assumed. not that they are immune to chaos corruption.

>> No.13021958

>>13021902
>No Tom Baker

>> No.13021964

In terms of development, Daleks are pretty damned fast.

The Time Lords had a several million year head start, but the Daleks advanced so quickly that they became a match for them.

>> No.13022005

>>13021958
Well, I figured the newer doctors are probably more accessible to anyone who is new to the series.

Once he's done he should definitely jump and start with the 4th Doctor.

>> No.13022016

Depending on the argument, the Daleks not being immune to Warp corruption might not matter.

If we're arguing that the Daleks can exterminate the Imperium, then that'll happen even if the Daleks all become corrupted.

>> No.13022023

>>13021964

Yeah, but the time lords are the least dynamic civilization in the universe. Some of the Baker episodes mention that a lot of their technology is laughably obsolete, but it doesn't matter because they control time itself, and protect that ability.

The Daleks are just the only civilization that's strong enough at all points in it's history to develop time travel and not get reconnected out of existence by the Time Lords (not to say they didn't TRY with the Daleks...)

>> No.13022024

>>13021900

>Come, learn why they fear my image as that of death.

Dude, they fear his image as that of Death because he IS Death, The Grim Reaper, whatever you want to call him. He implanted the fear of death in everyone but the Orks remember?

>> No.13022031

>>13022023
Considering the Time Lords retconned magic, I'd say that their stagnation didn't hurt them much.

>> No.13022033

"You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?"
"We would destroy the Cybermen with one Dalek."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBSOhODoch0#t=1m0s

>> No.13022043

The real question isn't if the Daleks could destroy the 40K universe.

The real question is...would the Doctor stop them?

>> No.13022072

What happened to the idea that the Space Marines were actually time lords? Y'know, the two hearts thing? That the Emperor was really the Master biding time and ruining the great "Terran Empire" that would be able to stop the C'tan, and instead leading to the Chaos Gods gaining power?

And then, of course, the Doctor was OP enough to outdo Tzeenetch

>> No.13022085

>>13022043

That'd be interesting. The doctor shows up in 40K, is immediately hunted by everyone, Daleks show up, and he's left with the choice.

"Do I save one group of monsters from a slightly worse group of monsters?"

It'd probably end with him turning the golden throne into a doomsday device.

>> No.13022122

>>13021423
>I think thousands upon thousands of battleships larger than small stars
For anyone who's wondering, Imperial battleships cap out at around 17km, and there are never thousands of them in one campaign/crusade, let alone one battle.

>> No.13022146

>Face it, Warhammer, you haven't got a hope in hell against the Dalek war machine.

Void Dragon was here, thank you for giving me the perfect weapon so easily.

>> No.13022212

>>13021373
The Doctor is The Emperor.
/Thread

>> No.13022220

>>13022043
>>13022085

See
>>13021402

>> No.13022235

>>13021373
fuckin xenos and their bullshit

>> No.13022251

>>13022212
The Doctor makes the corpsegod look like a child on the shortbus.

He'd never put up with an eighth of the inhuman shit that happens in a single day on the smallest hive in the galaxy.

>> No.13022255

>Face it, Warhammer, you haven't got a hope in hell against the Dalek war machine.

Hope is for Pussywanker faggots! HATE IS MY WEAPON

>> No.13022258

>>13022024
I know. He's bragging about that fact; it's essentially an upscale version of "I am going to fuck you in the ass. Surrender now and I might use lube."

>> No.13022316

>Daleks could destroy every living thing in the Warhammer Universe without breaking a sweat.

The necrons could do that too

>A single Dalek could kill wave after wave of Marines single handedly. One Dalek can level a building, and teams of Daleks are basically terraforming teams, capable of making smoking craters out of entire continents. Even Ultramarines would only be able to take down two Daleks at best, before they're vaporized from orbit.

Necrons, C'tan, man how do they work

>Think a full on Orc WAAAGGHH is terrifying? The pure and endless hatred of a single Dalek screaming EXTERMINATE would probably kill every Psyker for light years. And don't even get me started on their tenacity. Even committing complete and utter Genocide against the Daleks will only buy you a few weeks at best, before they come back bigger and more dangerous than a fresh group of Orc spores.

Necrons, Pariahs.

>Chaso, Eldar and Tyranid ain't got nothing on Daleks. When the Daleks went to war against the Time Lords, the most powerful beings in the Doctor Who universe, God-Like entities like the Eternals fled in fear or were devastated by the ferocity of their fighting. Indeed, the Daleks and their abominable weapons were so dangerous to the God-Like Time Lords that the only plan they could think to use was COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF TIME AND SPACE.

War in Heaven, Old Ones.

> Not to mention that Daleks have FTL systems that don't require dangerous trips through the Warp.

Necrons

>Weird Time Shit.

Necron Lords

>There isn't enough hope, ingenuity, cleverness or brilliance in the 40k universe to compare to Doctor's pinky finger. No hope, no Doctor, no Doctor, no victory against the Daleks.

The C'tan killed gods for sport.

>> No.13022348

>>13022316

The C'tan didn't have a chance in hell against Tzeenech's left testicle.

>> No.13022363

>>13022316
>The necrons could do that too

Then why haven't they? They clearly want to.

>> No.13022367

>>13022348

The Deceiver was here, Baby Tzeentch got nothing on him.

>Oh buuut Tzeentch knows all

Yeah, too bad he can't do shit about anything. Meanwhile the Deceiver walks on Terra and trolls assassins before eating them.

>> No.13022381

ITT: Faggots who think the Imperium is the strongest military force in the galaxy. The Daleks would probably chew through the Imperium, they might even get to Terra. But the Necrons would annihilate them. Dalek "physics are our bitch" superscience is comparable to Necron tech, if anything the 'Crons are superior. And don't forget that they're COMPLETELY reliant on technology. If they do take Terra and kill the Emperor, they're going to be utterly raped by the Void Dragon on Mars.

And we haven't even started talking about Chaos. It's not a far cry from EXTERMINATE to BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD after all, and the Daleks have next to no protection against the influence of the Warp.

And military strength isn't all that matters in war. Eldrad/Deciever/Tzeentch dickery could fuck the Daleks over even more than military threats.

And lastly, there's the most important thing of all: 40k is a universe powered entirely on Rule of Cool. Trash cans with plungers for eyes are not cool, therefore they'd get trashed.

>> No.13022384

>>13022363

Uh no they don't, because every living thing in the galaxy is their property and livestock. Besides, all we've seen about the Necrons are farmers and harvester machines, the real soldiers haven't even come up from their tombs.

>> No.13022388

>>13021373
I've never watched Dr. Who, but the Daleks always seemed like maniacal trash-cans to me. I guess they...are not that?

>> No.13022398

Where did all this "Daleks can destroy anything immediately" thing come from? Last I remember, one couldn't stand up to the Doctor's imitation-Bolter, and they were rendered blind by a puny slugthrower.
The Dalek force could be beaten easily by the Imperial Guard alone, and would be slaughtered with the immense strength of the Imperial Navy and the Space Marines. Throw every other race in there and they're just another bunch of endangered Xenos. Don't be surprised, the WH40K universe is designed to be stupid powerful.

>> No.13022415

>>13022384
>Besides, all we've seen about the Necrons are farmers and harvester machines
Which the IG use for target practice.

Maybe, MAYBE, if the Necrons brought out their actual military they might be able to fight on even ground with the rest of 40k, but right now they're laughingstock.

>> No.13022427

>>13022363
They're still asleep. Give them a millennium or two, they like to sleep in.

Seriously, the necrons known to the galaxy now are just the harvesters, not the actual military that fought the Old Ones. The only known example of the actual necron military was a single warship that dwarfed a space hulk and could harvest entire planets from orbit.

>> No.13022429

>Dalek

Bitch please, the Imperium would deal with them just like they deal with everyone else, shoot giant men in power armor at them in giant bullets from space, if that fails, shoot the ship at them.

They did it against the Necron's death star and it worked.

>> No.13022452

>>13022415

Bullshit, they use 1 legion of Necrons as target practice because said Necrons are broken. Meanwhile in Damnos a single legion raped the entire planet and skull fucked the Ultramarines lead by their chief librarian and Sicarius.

Then there's the Old King who helped Dante destroy an entire hive fleet.

Then there's that faggot Lord who saved the Tau from a Hivefleet and then killed the Tau.

etc, etc.

>> No.13022456

Seriously, if your best hope against the Daleks is a bunch of shit from an eight year old codex, then you're fucked.

>> No.13022471

>>13022415

>necrons
>laughing stock

lol, have you read the fluff about this bastard? It's like a mechanical ghost with atomic disassembler weapons.

>> No.13022502

>>13022456

Vect would just mail those assholes a blackhole.

>> No.13022508

>>13022452
>mfw he thinks Black Library fanfics are relevant to anything.

Warhammer is about crunch. The novells are just faprags for people who actually think codex fluff is a good read.

>> No.13022522

>but right now they're laughingstock.

Considering the Necrons have no problem with just fucking up Hivefleets where the Imperium has to throw entire sectors worth of manpower to stop one and that the current necrons are just harvesters and workers... I wouldn't call them laughing stock.

>> No.13022536

>>13022508

>Black Library

All that stuff is from the codices you faggot, well, well, well, looks like someone doesn't even know his 40k fluff and is trying to say that a bunch of trashcans would fuck up the 40k universe.

>> No.13022546

>>13022536
Only the target practice part is, and it's specifically from a rulebook, not a codex.

themoreyouknow

>> No.13022555

>>13022536

>a bunch of trashcans would fuck up the 40k universe.

My RT group looted some adamantium trash cans and turned them into tiny, tiny killa kans.

>missibe pronounced

>> No.13022563

>>13022546

Bullshit, the Old King is in the Blood Angels codex, and the Necron Tau thing is iirc in the latest Tyranid codex, and the Damnos inccident is both in the rulebook and the 5th edition marine codex.

>> No.13022585

>>13022563
The Old King is Ward masturbation and you know it.

>> No.13022597

>>13022585

Sounds like you're just mad 'cause you got told.

>> No.13022631

>>13022597

Actaully I'm the one who got told.

>> No.13022655

>Even the Doctor can beat the Daleks! Therefore, the WH40K universe can beat the Daleks easy.

Wrong. Major misconception there.

>The Doctor can even beat the Daleks. Therefore, the Doctor can beat the WH40K universe easy.

Better.

>> No.13022702

>>13022631

Dude, you didn't just get told. You got straight cold BUSTED.

>> No.13022807

I love Doctor Who. It's one of my favorite shows. But with that said, the Doctor scores most of his victories with the help of plot armor. Instead of just executing him, his enemies allow him to give speeches, push buttons, and dash away to safety. Put the Doctor in most other realities and he'd be shot in no time. And maybe at that point he'd regenerate and take a different approach (and do a good job--after all, he's a clever guy--but his godlike status is undeserved). Now, the Daleks are just plain retarded. I thought so when I firsts watched Tom Baker back in the 80s, and I really think so now. They behave as if they have dog-like intelligence: just substitute hostile barks for "ex-ter-min-ate"). Okay, sure they can talk, so they're kind of like the dogs in Up. But the point is that they don't act like they have the brains to do much of anything other than serve as security drones or something. And even that is questionable. I mean, when folks go to war, they don't shout "I'm gonna kill you! I'm gonna kill you! I'm gonna kill you! I'm gonna kill you!" each time before they shoot somebody. And what's up with the plungers they have for hands? What kind of sense does that make? How is it again that they construct their spaceships? It's all really dumb. And it's even worse in new Who. Sure, they were dangerous baddies in classic Who, but they weren't constantly made out to be completely indestructible masterminds.

tl;dr: Daleks display little of their reputed intelligence and their power can be written off as a plot device.

>> No.13022836

>>13022807
Note that I have little experience with the Warhammer Universe and think much of what I have heard sounds a lame. So I'm not being a fanboy; I just think we need to keep a little perspective here.

>> No.13022861

Daleks can't into tactical genius.

>> No.13022886

>>13022861

Ugliest miniature I've ever seen

>> No.13022890

>>13022807
>tl;dr: Daleks display little of their reputed intelligence and their power can be written off as a plot device.

Just fyi, this applies to 40k too. Especially Abaddon is going full retard all day every day, and yet he still is the master Warlord.

>> No.13022897

>>13022890
>Especially Abaddon is going full retard all day every day, and yet he still is the master Warlord.
That's because he has the power of TOPKNOTS.

>> No.13022924

>>their power can be written off as a plot device.
Same is true for most things in 40k, considering everything there exists only the sole purpose of endless fighting, NOT WIN mind you, only to fight ad infinitum. Everything is portrayed as THE BEST AND MOST POWERFUL THING in he whole universe in their own books and neither is actually true because all book otehr books portray the opposite at the same time.

>> No.13022935

>>13022388
>I've never watched Dr. Who, but the Daleks always seemed like maniacal trash-cans to me. I guess they...are not that?
Nope. You pretty much had it right. It's just that, according to the plot, maniacal trashcans are the smartest, most powerful thing that could ever exist, even though you sit there scratching your head and asking why.

>> No.13022967

The funny things about Imperium and DALEKs is that the big weakness of both Daleks and Space Marines are DEM STAIIIIRS!!!

>> No.13022996

>>13022924
>>13022890
Sure, I can buy that. And like I said, I'm not rooting for Warhammer or anything. I just think we shouldn't blow the Daleks out of proportion.

>> No.13023124

I've got it! I just thought up a good analogy for daleks: they're ewoks. Going by the plot in Return of the Jedi, one would have to assume that ewoks are the baddest fucking thing around. I mean, look what they did to the emperor's best troops. Sure, they're a little primitive, but in a way that makes them all the more impressive. Just think what they could accomplish if you gave them some technology! But you don't hear anybody (seriously) proposing that the ewoks could kill X or take down Y, because it doesn't make any sense.

>> No.13023187

>>13023124
Except Daleks are an actual, military and capable force. I mean they have ray guns and shields!

>>13022807
Don't mistake repetition for stupidity. Daleks are mutants in robotic suits, so they're extremely versatile ( you need a giant flying constructor? No problem bro, we'll just make the machine and then we can plop a Dalek in it to pilot it) and can replace their plunger arm with other manipulators.

>> No.13023197

Daleks can't stair, yo.

>> No.13023229

Okay, I know nothing about Doctor Who, what is stopping the enemies of the Doctor from killing him? He's one unarmored psudo-human. What is stopping his enemies form just sniping him?

And for that matter, why can't the Daleks die easily either? We have armor piercing weapons, a lot of them. Even if their armor is made of Plotinum, nuke the fuckers. I DARE something, anything, to survive at Ground Zero of a hydrogen bomb.

>> No.13023237

>>13023197
They'll just take the Elevatus.

>> No.13023255

>>13022890
If you haven't noticed, Chaos likes to fuck with people. Abbadon's authority is the gods trolling their worshipers.

>> No.13023272

Okay, I know nothing about 40k, what is stopping the enemies of the Emperor from killing him? He's one armored psudo-human. What is stopping his enemies form just sniping him?

And for that matter, why can't the Space Marines die easily either? We have armor piercing weapons, a lot of them. Even if their armor is made of Plotinum, nuke the fuckers. I DARE something, anything, to survive at Ground Zero of a hydrogen bomb.

>> No.13023279

>>13023272
Because everything in 40k is equally weak.

>> No.13023281

>>13023124
As a Star Wars fan, I feel the need to point this out: the Ewoks were originally Wookies. Endor's forest moon was a Wookie settlement, and the furry fucks can tear Storm Troopers apart all day long.

They switched it to teddy bears to sell toys.

>> No.13023288

>>13023229
Daleks can fly, and their primary defense is not armor plating, it's a field they generate.

The doctor has died, eleven times. He's a time lord, he can regenerate, the only thing he really can't do is cross his own timeline once he's become a part of events.

>captcha Vicomte auboned

And that'll sure as hell be the name of my next BBEG

>> No.13023301

>>13023229
Actually, the Daleks could survive the ground zero of a hydrogen bomb. They probably have weapons stronger than those. The Daleks have the technology that can allow them to move planets and travel through time. It's a little bit of plot mixed in with, "They are the arch enemies of a race that is similarly hax" i.e. Time Lords.

As for the sniping thing, ask the same question about Batman. It's the same principle.

>> No.13023309

>>13023288
10 times. He's regenerated ten times to become the Eleventh Doctor

>> No.13023311

>>13023272
Battlefleet Solar, aka "more ships than grains of sand in the Sahara", an entire Space Marine chapter (Imperial Fists), Luna, aka "The moon made entirely out of gun", all the industry of Mars, a shitton of garison on the planet, and finally the Adaptus Custodes, the best fighters in the entire fucking Imperium.

There, an explanation. Now explain the Doctor.

>> No.13023326

Lol daleks!? Talking garbage cans... the worst nemesis ever.

>> No.13023327

>>13023311
Get one starship with a line gun (don't have line guns? research!), drop it out of the Warp within range of Terra.

BAM! Terra's gone.

>> No.13023330

>>13023309

Nope, Eleven, Remember when David Tennant died, and resurrected as David Tennant, thanks to the hand he saved?

>> No.13023341

The Doctor would probably go back in time to the horus heresy as a guardsman, take the bullet for the emprah and regener-HOLY FUCK HE IS SANGUINUS

>> No.13023343

>Daleks can fly
So? Lots of shit can fly. We can kill all of it.

>their primary defense is not armor plating, it's a field they generate.
I was going to try to technobabble this, but I have a better idea. Put the Dalek in a box, throw box into the sun, or even better a black hole. Said box can be pretty much anything, if nothing else lure them onto a spaceship and then send it to said star/black hole. To distract the Daleks, just get them monologuing. From what little Who I've seen, I know that that isn't a difficult task.

>> No.13023347

>>13023330
Well at that point it's just splitting hairs and makes even more confusing when referring to Matt as the Eleventh

>> No.13023353

>>13023343
They did that. It didn't work. The only prison that was able to hold them required the sacrifice of the entire race of time lords was to put them into a permanent time loop...and even then they broke out

>> No.13023374

>>13023347

It's very important, because a Time lord can only regenerate 12 times. That means The Doctor is just about at the end of his rope

>> No.13023389

>>13023353
This isn't a prison, it's pretty much just a distraction while you obliterate their component atoms with a nuclear furnace and/or a gravity well so intense fucking light can't escape.

Seriously, do you know what happens when something falls into a black hole? Their atoms get ripped apart. Individual quarks get torn away from each other. It's destruction that can only be matched by matter/antimatter annihilation.

>> No.13023393

I thinks Daleks would be pretty fucked if they entered a warp.

>> No.13023404

>>13023374
That regeneration didn't actually count as the energy used was not from his bank of 12, but from the energy left in the hand. It wasn't a full scale regeneration that has the ticker. It was a regeneration that regrew whatever died like in the same special when the aforementioned hand was cut off then regrown

>> No.13023408

>>13023374
no no, there is a law, a timelord law that prevents further regenerations.

The time lords are gone. Before they did they were able to grant The Master more than 12 regenerations.

I assume something is going to happen so they can get rid of the 12 regeneration limit for the Doctor.

>> No.13023416

>>13023389
Yeah. I told you. They did that. it didn't work.

>> No.13023426

>>13023301
>Actually, the Daleks could survive the ground zero of a hydrogen bomb.
Of course, one was pushed out of a 2nd story window and it perished from the fall, but that's a lot more destructive than an h-bomb.

>> No.13023432

>>13023416
Okay this is where I weep for the laws of physics. How, exactly, did they get better from having their atoms torn to shreds and then get consumed by a zombified star?

>> No.13023435

daleks are the most retardedly designed thing in any form of fiction ever

>> No.13023439

Emps = Captain Jack, the Doctor or the Master?

>> No.13023445

>>13023389
Actually, the Time Lords invented Black Holes. The Time Lords are the mortal enemies of the Daleks. The Daleks aren't gone. Can you see where I'm going?

>> No.13023449

Daleks lose because those motherfuckers are disguised trash cans in the one of the lowest budget TV show ever.

>> No.13023452

>>13023439
none of them. They all have proven that they have the capacity to be sexy. The emperor is fugly as hell.

I'd rather fuck the face of Boe.

>> No.13023455

>>13023426
Old Who v. New Who
That's also the answer for the stairs argument.

>> No.13023461

>>13023343
You can kill a single Dalek a lot easier than that. They're an entire species, though.

>> No.13023468

>>13023445
>Actually, the Time Lords invented Black Holes.
I don't think so. The Time Lords created the black hole that fueled their time travel, but I don't think they created all black holes.

>> No.13023481

>>13023468
Honestly, it was said in the new series but the context is weird so it's unclear whether or not it is true.

>> No.13023494

>>13023432
>laws of physics
>Doctor Who

Choose one.

>> No.13023500

>>13023455
I agree that the Daleks got a serious power boost in new Who, but I've got to default to the one that is less nonsensical. Though at least once, the Daleks mastered stairs in classic Who as well (by levitating in a similar fashion to the one in the Eccleston era episode: Dalek).

>> No.13023502

>>13023445
Again, how? I don't know about you, but any writing that flat out urinates on physics is IMO immediately invalidated. Fiction doesn't need to be perfectly realistic but there's a difference between slightly impossible futuristic technology and SURVIVING HAVING THE TINIEST PARTS OF YOU IRREVOCABLY SEPARATED FROM THE OTHER TINIEST PARTS OF YOU

After being eaten by a black hole, you aren't. There is nothing of you. The parts that make up you no longer exist. You no longer exist. No amount of technobabble can let you get better from not being. Even comic books use the excuse of clones, alternate universes, etc.

Now if there's a factory somwhere making more Daleks and the dead are simply replaced, then we're making progress. Now the solution is to obliterate that factory.

>> No.13023504

>>13023452
>>13023452
>>13023452
>>13023452

>> No.13023515

>>13023502
>slightly impossible

We're talking about Doctor Who AND 40k here dude.
They BOTH flat out urinate on physics.

>> No.13023542

>>13023502
You do realize the whole point of the topic is to see which (40k or Doctor Who) urinates on physics the most?

>> No.13023573

Doctor Who is a retarded tv show and the daleks are not credible as villains.

In 40k they would die like the stupid peppercan men that they are.

Go fellate the bbc's shitty programming elsewhere.

>> No.13023577

I think you're all forgetting something about the Daleks that is very, very important. They are a TIME TRAVELLING species.

The only reason their war with the time lords resulted in mutual destruction is because it was a war between two Time Travelling superpowers.

Since no civilization in the 41st millenium has the the technology for time travel, if the Daleks wanted to exterminate the imperium of man, all they'd have to do is destroy terra SEVERAL MILLION YEARS before the golden age of man.

>> No.13023599

>>13023573
You should watch an episode or two, like the silence in the library that was fun. You might enjoy it.

>> No.13023604

>>13023577
Daleks can't beat the Emperor when he's young.

The Emperor will mindrape them.

And no, I don't think Daleks can beat the Shamans either.

>> No.13023607

>>13023573
>Doctor Who is a retarded tv show
Retardedly awesome!

>and the daleks are not credible as villains.
Well, I'd say they can be credible as villains, just not the kind of villain they're supposed to represent. They need to be slightly insane attack drones that turned on their masters and now patrol a dead city, exterminating anything unlike them that they come across, instead of super-brilliant, super-powerful, fleet-building universe conquerors.

>> No.13023611

>>13023515
40k stretches reality and introduces new settings that don't obey the same rules (the warp)
Who, if I am correct in saying that the Daleks survived being eaten by a black hole, are directly contradicting rules while still in the setting where supposedly those rules apply.

This is why wizards get a pass; magic is magic. It follows different rules. Dalek superscience is still science, it ostentatiously follows reality. Stretching it a bit for the sake of plot is okay but tearing it to pieces is not.

>> No.13023620

>>13023577
The emperor can manipulate time as well, so his future self would rape the fuck out of them.

If a single man can put a boot to the face of every daemon ever and cause nervousness in the chaos gods then yeah, a race of sapient vacuum cleaners aren't going to stand a chance.

>> No.13023627

>>13023604

You mean the Sensei? The ones that were completely retconned?

>> No.13023634

>>13023611
>>13023611
Those rules don't apply in the doctor who verse though.

>> No.13023635

>>13023604
>Daleks can't beat the Emperor when he's young.

You say that like he suggested they would fight him. He said they'd go MILLIONS of years back.

>> No.13023641

>>13023573
The Daleks are a race that can time travel. They also have the technology to move entire planets. Hell, they even use that tech to create a giant space engine using planets to channel energy with the sole purpose of destabilizing EVERY ATOM IN THE UNIVERSE.

>> No.13023645

>>13021373
>Something else threatening Earth

Sorry no, Only we can kill Kakarot.

>> No.13023656

The emperor can't do shit.

No, I mean it, quite literally. The emperor can't even pass feces into his colostomy bag.

>> No.13023671

>>13023599
I have.

It's stupid british faggots being stupid, british and gay.

>>13023607


>>Retardedly awesome!

Nah, just retarded all the way down.

>>Well, I'd say they can be credible as villains, just not the kind of villain they're supposed to represent. They need to be slightly insane attack drones that turned on their masters and now patrol a dead city, exterminating anything unlike them that they come across, instead of super-brilliant, super-powerful, fleet-building universe conquerors.

For that they'd need a better design. Who the fuck would seriously be scared of a mobile trashcan?

Even if it has rayguns or whatever...

>> No.13023672

>>13023599
This man speaks the truth. Silence in the Library is very good.

Silence in the Library (part 1): http://www.megavideo.com/?v=V7H7JLYM

Forest of the Dead (part 2):
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=3RPFB4N3

The key to enjoying Doctor Who is to realize that there is going to be some retarded shit and to not let it get to you (it's kind of like Babylon 5 in that way). If you can get past the random sci-fi gayness, it is really a very clever and unique show.

>> No.13023674

>>13023656
In his present state, yeah.

But when you kill him, his spirit is going to become a god.

>> No.13023699

Need I to remind that Warhammer 40K is also british?

>> No.13023707

>>13022807
What you did there. It has been seen.

>> No.13023729

>>13023699
Yes, and Doctor Who manages to be even gayer. Which is quite a feat considering...

>> No.13023739

>>13023729
Not really. It has Russell T Davis.

FFFFFFF

>> No.13023773

>>13023729
>>13023671
>>13023573

>> No.13023784

Great Britain is like the North Korea of Europe. They're so far stuck up their own ass that they can't see how much everyone hates them.

Dr who sucks, the BBC sucks and beans are not a breakfast food

>> No.13023786

>>13023739
Very clever sir.

However, Doctor Who is still a Bad Show that is very, very retarded.

>> No.13023800

>>13023784
Don't forget the rotted teeth, shitty accents, and food that is 90 percent grease and fat. Although that last one includes the US too.

Oh and the sun never shines there either.

Also, chavs.

>> No.13023813

>>13023739
>>13023786
it has a lot of extremely retarded episodes, but the good ones just seem to draw you to watch more and more of it in hopes of better trips.

So does Karen Gillan.

Silence in the Library and Blink are both insanely good, and there are quite a few others as well.

>> No.13023816

>>13023404
>That regeneration didn't actually count as the energy used was not from his bank of 12, but from the energy left in the hand. It wasn't a full scale regeneration that has the ticker. It was a regeneration that regrew whatever died like in the same special when the aforementioned hand was cut off then regrown
Other way around, actually. He restored himself back to full health, then passed the excess regeneration power ~from~ himself ~to~ the hand so he wouldn't change into a different form. This also made the hand grow into a full-sized clone of himself.

Also, it was two different specials. One was the christmas special where he finished his regeneration into the Davin Tennant form; he lost his hand in a sword fight, but regrew it because he was still fresh from his regen. Then later, daleks came and shot him, and he regenerated again but stayed in the same form.

So it still counts as a regeneration. Althought, one of his previous changes wasn't a regen, but a body-resculpting forced on him by the Time Lords so he could serve as an infiltrator, so that one might not count, in which case it'll be an even 10 regenerations for 10 actor changes.

>> No.13023828

>No amount of technobabble can let you get better from not being
Gravity dampeners. Suddenly black holes are just like every other part of space.

>> No.13023847

>>13023786
>However, Doctor Who is still a Bad Show that is very, very retarded.
It all depends on which episodes/serials you watch. Some are just plain terrible (hell, entire eras are bad), and most have something gay/retarded/stupid in them somewhere, but many of those still manage to be awesome. Towards the end, classic Who was pretty bad. Towards the beginning, new Who was far from stellar. And sprinkled throughout are bad episodes, but damn the good ones are impressive!

>> No.13023849

>>13023452
>I'd rather fuck the face of Boe.
Jack IS the face of Boa.

>> No.13023853

>>13023849
shhhh!!

>> No.13023857

>>13023828
That doesn't even make sense. Gravity is affected by how big something is, and since black holes are a void in space then you cannot alter its size. It's like poking a hole in the side of a swimming pool.

>> No.13023877

See, before you call me a fag let me say one thing.

The central message of 40k is that Might is the only thing that matters. That those with power should perpetuate themselves, whatever the cost. The only virtues in that setting are mindless piety, and loyalty to a godhead that expects the sacrifice of millions, every day. But hey, who cares, it's a big galexy. Little people don't matter.

The central message of Doctor Who, on the other hand, is that after looking at the universe from the scope of its initiation to its destruction, nothing is impressive. No conquest lasts. The only thing that matters, in the entire universe, is the individual, and the beautiful, irreplaceable moments that he experiences over the course of his lifetime.

See, the Emperor's hard line is that no sacrifice is too great for the survival of the human race.

The Doctor's hardline is that there is no such thing as an "ordinary" human.

So yeah, please resume. Time to call me a fag.

>> No.13023881

>>13023857

are you trying to debate 40k vs doctor who from a hard sci-fi standpoint? You're in for a tough night my friend.

>> No.13023898

>>13023857
That's not really how gravity works. That's especially not how gravity works when the various space magics of these two series come in to play.

>> No.13023928

>>13023813
>Silence in the Library and Blink are both insanely good
Yes! Throw in The Eleventh Hour and you have my three favorite new Who stories. Though The Eleventh Hour is good for a completely different reason: it's fucking funny. The plot is secondary.

>> No.13023983

>>13023800

>> No.13024010

>>13023857
Gravity is based on mass, not size. Short of super massive black holes, they're smaller than earth.

And Black holes aren't voids in space. Space is a void. Black holes are HUGE quantities of mass, condensed to absurd degrees. Like squeezing the moon until it's 1mm across. And since they're gravity wells, they gradually gain mass and get bigger, combining with other black holes, worlds, or even whole solar systems.

>> No.13024029

>>13024010
>space is a void

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo

>> No.13024046

>>13024029
I don't have much time right now, and that video is an hour long. Is this a video telling me I'm wrong? Cause if it is, I'll watch it after I wake up.

>> No.13024063

>>13024046
kind of

>> No.13024070

>>13024063
Sounds great. I love those kind of videos.

But it's bedtime for me.

>> No.13024103

>>13024010
>Gravity is based on mass, not size. Short of super massive black holes, they're smaller than earth.
To be fair, the smallness of black holes is the very thing that makes them what they are. When a star collapses into a black hole, it's not like it gains mass. It's the inverse square law of gravitational attraction that makes the pull of the black hole so strong. That fact that you can be so close to all that mass in a way that you can't even begin to be with an ordinary star.

>> No.13024112

According to Craig Ferguson, Doctor Who is about the triumph of intellect and romance over brute force and cynicism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9P4SxtphJ4

The Doctor > Daleks.
The Doctor > 40K.

Now how do Daleks and 40K compare? Well, the Daleks are a major menace to The Doctor. But he could take down 40K in a single episode. (As he has already done in multiple previous threads, including one where The Master was also The Emperor).

Daleks > 40K.

QED.

>> No.13024124

>>13024112 I find Craig Fergusson's wang to be particularly delicious with syrup!

Fixed.

>> No.13024137

>>13024112
Where's the pic from? Looks like my kind of show

>> No.13024188

>>13024137
American talk show. Check the Youtube clip for the full sketch.

>> No.13024354

Abslom Daak, Dalek Killer had a chainsword.

He had one back in 1979, long before 40K. He was also extremely fashion-forward, adopting 40K tropes long before 40K.

Despite being considered the second-greatest enemy the Daleks ever faced, he still died in combat against them.

Advantage: Daleks.

>> No.13024389

>>13023255

No, no, no. Abaddon is in charge because he can actually get all the legions to stop fighting each-other for a while and team up, and that does not last that long because most of the legions hate each-other to death. Also hes a monster in combat and, anyone wanting to take his place has to defeat him in 1v1 combat. Which is easier said then done.

Well hes not really as bad a leade as allot of people make him out to be, i mean you try getting legions of crazy-demon-worshiping-supermen who hate each-other to fight together for any amount of time before they discard what you have planned and start to trying to kill the other for some dark god.

So hes not the best leader, but hes the strongest and can get the legions working along side each-other. So hes got the job

>> No.13024423

>-No Hope. The only person consistently capable of defeating the Daleks is the Doctor. There isn't enough hope, ingenuity, cleverness or brilliance in the 40k universe to compare to Doctor's pinky finger. No hope, no Doctor, no Doctor, no victory against the Daleks.

Pic related. On a good day.
Also a few trillion people, at least a few dozen could possibly do the doctors work - even taking into account The Doctor is essentially a gigantic Mary Sue.

>> No.13024440

>>13024389

My grammer sucks, btw.

>> No.13024450

40kids on every setting lower on the power scale than 40k:
lol heresy exterminatus spess mahreens raep u

40kids on every setting higher on the power scale than 40k:
Versus threads are stupid guys, sage.

>> No.13024501

>>13024450
>>40kids on every setting higher on the power scale than 40k:
>>Versus threads are stupid guys, sage.

If you are lucky. 40kids aren't known for the breadth of their reading and frequently roll to disbelieve when presented with fictional universes more powerful than theirs. Regardless of how long lived, popular or respected they are.

If bombarded by posters saying that setting X does exist and can actually do what is claimed, expect "Well that's nothing but a bunch of Mary Sues, regardless of whatever else you say."

Or Necrons. As fluff goes they are the quintessential "My Dad can beat up your Dad!" faction. More powerful than the Time Lords, Cthulu and the Lensmen COMBINED!

>> No.13024504

Technically traveling through space is itself a form of time travel.

>> No.13024523

>>13024501
Lensmen, where the IQ's of the heroes are in the 1000-5000 ranges.

>> No.13024571

>>13021387
>>13021391
I disagree, I statted out a dalek in a DH game with all its stats as true to the show as I could make them (only heavy calibre rounds have a chance to pierce there shells and even then there much reduced) and It was taken out by a singe acolyte with starter gear and potshotted a bit by a squad of policemen that later ran away.

There main weakness is there eyestalk and CC, Unlike most other settings wh40k puts a lot of emphasis on overpowered melle, and close combat is one of the few ways to effectively reduce the effect of the daleks shield, getting close enough to use it is a bitch but not difficult if you play it smart, once you get close enough to hit it instead of shooting ineffective rifles at it, it isn't so difficult to blind it, once you do Its useless until it opens up its caprice to use its own eyes to continue shooting and once It dose its far easier to kill.

The daleks occasionally deploy in mass, but in a 1vs1 fight the odds aren't as one-sided as you would expect.

>> No.13024584

Orkz loot Daleks.

Orkz make Daleks better.

Fuck the rest of your theories, mine is cooler. They are in the 40K setting, so the rule of cool applies and so does the rule of grimdark.

Orkz getting Daleks as weapons is grimdark as fuck.

>> No.13024600

>>13024354
Wait a second, this seems like an advantage to 40K.

How many Daleks did this guy kill? Because he looks pretty standard by 40K standards. Does he have some sort of amazing abilities?

>> No.13024605

>>13024501

In all fairness, 40k is pretty funny, whereas those other settings tend to be SERIOUS LITERATURE UM OMG GUYS DON'T LAUGH AT ME.

Same reason Scooby gang defeated the Imperium in that other thread. Funnier setting wins.

>> No.13024609

>>13024605

Uhhh, what? 40K is all about SERIOUSNESS and GRIMDARK now, with only the Orks as somewhat comic relief. Face it, 40k is for rich 12 year olds pissed at their parents.

>> No.13024611

>>13024605
I wish to read this thread.

Let me guess, they demasked the Emperor as Old Man Jenkins?

>> No.13024615

>>13024609
Nigga what, have you read some of the Tau fluff? Shit is hilarious.

>> No.13024627

>>13024584
>They are in the 40K setting, so the rule of cool applies and so does the rule of grimdark.
Oh, you want to talk grimdark? Well, a race of horribly disfigured mutants that know no other emotion than hate [literally. Not 'we're kinda big on hate' or 'i'm not exactly sure what's with this compassion business' - it's all hate all the time, no lunch breaks], enormous god complex, genocidal, next to unstoppable, obliterated the most powerful race in the universe. They have no skulls, bones, skins and such because they don't leave any - they obliterate shit. AND they talk like if the brave little toaster starred in Death Wish.


>Orkz getting Daleks as weapons is grimdark as fuck.
more like lolrandumbecksdee

>> No.13024634

>>13024609

Really? I thought all that overpowered equipment and extreme bureaucracy was meant as a sort of parody of itself. I mean all the THROW MORE MEN AT IT and OUR DEATHS WILL BE MAGNIFICENT is pretty clearly facetious.

>> No.13024638

>>13024611

Actually he turned out to be a beat-up Horus this whole time!

>> No.13024651

>>13024615
it's hilarious because it's so ham handed it's a couple of slices of bread away from becoming sandwiches. When you read 2e books they are filled with humor and funny stuff, and all the grimdark just brings it out even more. Now it's all grimdark all the time, with a glimmer of the old fun somewhere once in a long while.

>> No.13024652

>>13021450

God, I got sick of that lonely god routine, especially at the hands of that wooden buffoon Tennant.

>> No.13024653

>>13024523
>>Lensmen, where the IQ's of the heroes are in the 1000-5000 ranges.

Your pathetically limited organic existence cannot even begin to measure the incandescent, corruscating POWER OF MIND that a Second-Stage Lensman can bring to bear. Though the crude approximations of your IQ system do give you the barest glimmerings of the truth. Perhaps there is hope for you sentient.

>> No.13024657

>>13024634

You've apparently never stepped foot in a games workshop. The people there take the game as SERIOUS MATURE GAMING FOR SERIOUS MATURE PEOPLE LIKE ME.

>> No.13024664

>>13024651

Also 40k fiction seems so claustrophobic now. It's always the same old heroes. Nobody has written fiction really capturing the sense of living in this odd world.

>> No.13024668

>>13024627
So basically really powerful Khorne worshippers without the whole blood and skull things. I'm joking with you, I get the picture and Daleks are pretty damn cool.

However Orkz looting Daleks would be cooler. Fly those dead killy kanz. Here's a question, what would a Dalek do if a gretchen gabbed onto the torso of it's back? I know they can rotate that area, but surely if the gretchen held on he'd rotate with it too. Would it have to get another Dalek to shoot it, but would that not risk itself?

>> No.13024672

>>13024657

I certainly haven't. To be honest, my main exposure to 40k has been playing Dark Crusade and reading a few of the books, and being on this place. Dark Crusade was certainly pretty funny, the guardsmen always totally out of their depths and desperate no matter what was going on.

>> No.13024679

>>13024657
Mine isn't like that. We just have some fun and joke around and shit.

>> No.13024699

>>13024651
I liked the Tau fluff. It is funny.

There's still plenty of jokes and stuff, a lot less admittedly, but it's there. Especially in the RPGs although I guess you might not count those. But the Orkz are still funny, the Tau have some hillarious stuff, the Imperium has over the top zeal, parodies, using old farming equipment and GIANT CATHEDRAL SHIPS (which I love, I know a lot of people don't but I love them.

Tyranids... I can't think of anything for them.
Necrons... there's some funny Necron stuff, like the Tau stuff and the whole farming thing.
Chaos has some I'm sure but I can't think of much at the moment. There's Nurgle in general, I guess.

I agree with you that there's a lot less but there's still some to enjoy.

>> No.13024714

>>13024672
>>13024679
Congratulations. You realize that 40K is an incredibly awesome black comedy. But serious business it isn't.

Heck, the entire RPG line is nothing more than an up-gunned Paranoia.

>> No.13024723

>>13024389

Abaddon's authority is based purely on his personal asskicking ability, his approach to bad news is to kill the messenger first.

Other Chaos Lords avoid serving near Abaddon, and he is unique among Chaos fleet commanders in that he blasts his own ships (regardless of their vinicity and the chance of warp drive implosion or plasma reactor detonation on his face).

If Chaos had someone like Macharius instead, there would be no Imperium standing in M41.

>> No.13024762

""I have the two qualities required to see absolute truth. I am brilliant, and unloved"

Hey, I bet at least a couple of you started watching the libraries episode some time around when I started watching it.

Is it just me, or does that line give you chills?

>> No.13024847

Simply assemble the greatest hero's of the imperium of man, Hell Creed, Kell, Calgar and Marbo are more than enough for the Daleks... Hell Creed Alone would simply use his 'Tactical Genius' and hide an Emperor Titan on the main transportation of the Daleks, they wouldn't even know what hit them.

>> No.13024859

>>13024762

"I'm the doctor, and you are in the biggest library in the universe. Look me up."

Better line

>> No.13024897

>>13024762
The thing I like about it is that it has so much going on. A normal show would be content with just one or two things, but this one has (phrased in a nonspoilerish way): the girl and her world, the disappearances and the library, the Vashta Narada, the person the Doctor doesn't recognize, and the relays.

>> No.13024920

>>13024859
That's one of the Doctor's most badass moments. The "basically run" bit from The Eleventh Hour was essentially a reprise of it. I do like Rose's line from The Army of Ghosts: "Five million cybermen: easy. One doctor: now you're scared."

>> No.13024951

Since these have kind of gotten buried in the middle of the thread, here are the links again. This is Doctor Who at its best.

Silence in the Library (part 1): http://www.megavideo.com/?v=V7H7JLYM

Forest of the Dead (part 2): http://www.megavideo.com/?v=3RPFB4N3

>> No.13024984

>>13024762
The thing about the doctor is, a lot of people love him.

But he does not love himself.

He is the greatest threat to the galaxy, and he knows this and no matter how much good he does he knows he is the most dangerous thing to all creation.

>> No.13024998

The Daleks would be corrupted by Khorne so easily. But he'd never have complete control over them because of their sheer hatred of the fact he's not a Dalek.

Make of this what you will.

>> No.13025012

>>13024998
They don't like combat they see it as a chore.

So no.

>> No.13025024

"There...was a war. A time war. The last great time war. My people fought a race called the Daleks for the sake of all creation. And they lost.

Everyone lost.

They are all gone now. My family. My friends. Even that sky. "

This is the last surviving Time Lord describing the end of the Last Great Time War. Underestimate the Daleks at your peril.

>> No.13025106

Two words.

Reality bomb.

>> No.13025112

Two words.

Mat Ward.

>> No.13025117

>>13025012
But they HATE. Hate is the only thing a Dalek knows.

Khorne is the god of hate. Daleks would be oh so good to him.

>> No.13025279

>>13025117
Khorne is the god of war, not hate.

>> No.13025529

>>13021373

OI WHATS ALL DIS NOISE!?
HEY LADZ DEM DALEK BOYZ ARE BACK FOR A NUDDA GO! LET GET AT EM!!!!!

>> No.13025537

>>13025279
Each of the Chaos gods represents a set of aspects of sentient psychology, not just one, and the four of them embody the entire range of emotions and feelings. Thus, no matter what you feel, you are empowering atleast one Chaos God.

Khorne is the god of violence and all its associated primitive feelings, anger, hate, bloodlust, honor, bravery, etc. A race that is only capable of one of these feelings all the time (which is still not true for the Daleks, as they've been shown to fear the Doctor) are at Khorne's complete mercy.

>> No.13025697

Necrons already are the Dalek equivalent in 40k.

Both have weapons against which defenses are useless- the Dalek death ray and the Necron "Gauss" guns.

Both have stupid good resilience- Dalekanium casings/Necrodermis bodies and forcefields/resurrection

Both got in a war against the durrPrecusorRace of their setting, and were stalemated thanks to their adversary's sacrifical plot last resort- Time Lords/Old Ones, the Moment and subsequent time lock/the Blackstone Fortresses and subsequent Enslaver plague

Despite being the most powerful active races in their own setting according to fluff, retards undermine them for unaccountable reasons- The Daleks because they keep losing to the main character, and the Necrons because their crunch is underwhelming

I'd consider both pretty close if matched against one another, and I'd give it to the Necrons only based on the fact that they keep quiet while exterminating and that the Daleks' design has aged horribly.

>> No.13025968

Kinda says it all.

The British create DrWho, which is uplifting and optimistic.

The Americans create 40k, which is cynical and grimdark.

>> No.13025986

>>13025968
You.... you are trolling me right? Right? We britfags made both and if anything we tend to lean on the cynical side of things.

Look at a lot of our comedy like Blackadder and other gems. Cynical as fuck.

>> No.13026065

Aright, gotta chime in about the point that the Doctor has super plot armor: The official explanation is that because he can see all the points where time diverges, he almost always can choose a path where he does not die. This does eventually lead to scenarios where that is unavoidable.

Daleks on the other hand are just highly adaptive war machines. They lose to any one particular weapon or strategy... once, or twice maybe if you're lucky.

I think the more important question is: How many points is a Dalek worth, and can they even deploy their vaunted "thousands of ships" in a game? I think not.

>> No.13026149

>>13025968
small problem, both were made by the Brits ya more-off...

>> No.13026191

>>13026065

The Doctor really should die quite often, but he starts talking, people explain their plans because he has ungodly Fel, he runs off, and he does something clever that gets them killed without any blood directly on his hands.

That, and the time machine doesn't hurt.

Daleks would win against the Imperium. It would take a while, but as of the end of the RTD era, their technology level's just ludicrous. Kind of puts the Necron claim to "mastery of space and time" in perspective, doesn't it...

>> No.13026693

The Daleks can transport planets from across time and space casually. They see your planet? It's going to be dumped into a star or a black hole.

>> No.13026816

>>13024354

>Abslom Daak, Dalek Killer had a chainsword.

>He had one back in 1979, long before 40K. He was also extremely fashion-forward, adopting 40K tropes long before 40K.

>Despite being considered the second-greatest enemy the Daleks ever faced, he still died in combat against them.

>Advantage: Daleks.

Advantage: 40k you fuck, if a single man with a chainsword was the second most dangerous enemy of the Daleks, well big surprise, every fucking IG sargeant has a chainsword or a better weapon, let alone Space Marines who are power armored motherfuckers with chainswords.

And that's just the imperium.

>> No.13027768

>>13025529

Lead the way Greenskin. This Shas'O hasn't had quality battle like this in ages. These pepperpots cannot stand before the might of the GREATER GOOD.

>> No.13029664

ka-bamp

>> No.13030398

Look, Daleks individually aren't that impressive. Sure, they're mass-murdering killing machines, but sooner or later the shield drops or they get a higher-technologically enhanced bat to the eyestalk.

Dalek fleets and Empires...

If it's not time travel, it's planet going boom.

>> No.13030447

>>13021505
>>13021505
>clever guy status
Actually now he's just lolrandum

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