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[ERROR] No.12682718 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

Hey /tg/. I'm running the BRP Call of Cthulhu 5th edition for the first time in years. (I came onto the scene when they'd just published CoC D20 so a lot of my experience is with the hybrid 3.5 rules.) My question is about allocation experience: how do you guys like the system?

Do you do what the book suggests (let people roll on some skills they succeeded at during the session, let them roll to add points if they roll under the skill's percentile) or do you just allocate freebie points so even out chance? I'd like to know how the experience gains feel in the long run using BRP.

>> No.12682789

Also, it turns out I've finally collected over 1,000 Cthulhu Mythos pictures. Had no idea my collection had gotten that big.

>> No.12682885

>>12682789
You should post some dude. I sadly don't have very many and I enjoy them immensely.

>> No.12682918

The system is head and shoulders above d20 CoC.

>> No.12682983

>>12682885

Really? PREPARE YOURSELF

(got I hate you captcha)

>> No.12683056

>>12682918

Yeah I like it, I've played in BRP games before, I just stuck with D20 for so long because it was familiar.

>> No.12683102

>> No.12683134

Kind of doing a Greatest Hits sampling of the big figures in the mythos first - pleasantly surprised to find some good Azathoth pictures, the daemon sultan is hard to portray (for some crazy reason)

>> No.12683176

What the hell one more of Azathoth

>> No.12683219

>>12682718
Personally? I love the system, really simple and encourages RP. As for skills, I basically run them as the book suggests, however I do occasionally hand out a few bonuses if a skill is particularly required or if the player can justify it to me.

>> No.12683225

I love this guy's art

>> No.12683284

Well If this is Andy I found you

If its not my group is going to run a d20 CoC one shot thing next session I believe

>> No.12683302

>>12683284

OP here. No Andy, sorry. Hope your game goes well!

>> No.12683347

>>12683219

Yeah, it kind of bugged me that if you rolled over your skills it was possible to end a few sessions with no skill improvements whatsoever. But the system seems really sound.

Question if you know the answer - what's the practical mechanical difference between a dodge and a parry? Maybe I missed it but I didn't see the advantages of parry VS just dodging the hell out of things. (Does a parry allow a disarm or something?)

>> No.12683362

>>12683284

PS What adventure?

>> No.12683453

Ah the Innsmouth look

>> No.12683471

>>12683347
the way I always interpreted it is that you can use parry when you have a melee weapon or shield in a situation in which you can dodge, such as being in full plate armor or if you have your back to the wall. I also always just ruled that if you got a critical success on parry that you disarmed your opponent.

>> No.12683509

>>12683471

Ah, makes sense.

>> No.12683531

Other gods may manifest in physically larger or louder forms, but in my opinion Hastur as the King in Yellow is the most ominous of them all.

>> No.12683557

>> No.12683575

God I love this migo

captcha: forchanh

hah

>> No.12683592

I actually have a lot of fine migo art. Good for them!

>> No.12683630

>> No.12683631

>>12683575
>>12683592
yeah, the Migo always cool. I viewed them as a sort of post biological singularity species of scientists who have escaped many of the confines of this universe and silly moralities.

>> No.12683671

>>12683631

Me too. I like cheering for them because say what you will, they're a species that made it big that can hold its own against the huge entities that constantly plow through other races. I have to admire that.

>> No.12683682

>>12682718
Bumping, on the principal of the matter.
I, for one, welcome our outer god overlords.

>> No.12683711

>>12683362
Its going to be a surprise, the only info i got was to make at least 3 characters lol

>> No.12683735

>>12682718
So what scenario are you running OP?

>> No.12683745

>>12683682

Cool. I'm up for any general talking about how the mythos is awesome while I post the pics really

Love this one. Kind of understated but there's just so many creepy background details. Makes yig seem really repellent

>> No.12683821

>>12683711

Sounds like fun!

>>12683735

I'm running this:

http://www.unboundbook.org/?p=82

Over Skype with a friend I've gamed with for years. He moved to another province for school and we A) miss rolling the dice together and B) Always did like smaller player numbers in games. The idea of an adventure specifically tailored for one player and one GM sounds really cool for a horror setting.

I'm hoping it goes well, I'm just going to run/read the first adventure and let him run the next, then we'll see who wants to try the third.

>> No.12683825

>>12683745
Sweet jesus that is awesome. I want to run a wild west CoC scenario now.

>> No.12683851

>>12683821
Monophobia, eh? I was considering getting that. Would you recommend it?

>> No.12683913

>>12683825

Isn't it? Just look at those dudes crawling in the background, they give me the heebie jeebies every time. Wild West is perfect for horror. (Always was sad that that Deadlands videogame never got off the ground, I loved the CoC: Dark Corners of the Earth game)

>> No.12683918

>>12683821
Yeah i think i have a few characters lined up:
- Religious (christian) Cop guy
- House
- A demon hunter Asian guy

>>12683825
did it, it was epic...the driven out natives where worshiping a old god... the group decided sacrifices where bad and destroyed the alter, great idea right?

>> No.12684003

>>12683851

>>Monophobia, eh? I was considering getting that. Would you recommend it?

Certainly, considering it's a free download. (check out the link, there's a PDF of the whole thing right on the first page - the guy's not doing this for money)

>> No.12684008

I've always wanted to DM CoC. Might get a chance in a few months. Any pointers?

>> No.12684057

>>12684003
>free
you made my night good sir

>> No.12684085

>>12684008

-I really like playing some lowkey unsettling ambient in the background to set the mood. Put your PCs on edge!

-Players' natural instincts are to goof off, especially in larger groups. If you really want GRIM HORROR be prepared to gently steer them back to more serious gameplay.

-Have some backup characters ready in case your players go in with blazing guns and expect to come out alive.

-Players who call the cops usually unwittingly escalate the scenario instead of stopping the horror. Which in my opinion is great.

I've had some decent success running the classic CoC started Corbitt's Mansion, which is in the back of the BRP 5th ed book. Try that one on for size.

>> No.12684090

I love the Cthulhu Mythos so much... Any illustrations of the Great Race by chance?

>> No.12684126

>>12684057

Ma'am* actually. But you're welcome. I found it out when I was listening to one of the yog-sothoth podcasts and was pleased to hear the price-point was zero as well.
*bluh blug girl internet etc...it just feels weird when people call me a dude.

>> No.12684154

>>12684085
Thank you my good lady.

>> No.12684172

>>12684154

Welcome again!

>>12684090

The yithians? I sure do. Just let me dump this one last nightgaunt, I love these guys.

>> No.12684187

Never change, you time-traveling body-swapping bastards.

>> No.12684197

>>12684126
If there's one board where we don't make a big deal of the gender of the poster, it would be here on /tg/. Best of luck with your campaign.

>> No.12684224

This is an illustration for a set of tarot cards. Amazing art, kicking myself for not grabbing it on the cheap when I had the chance...

>> No.12684228

>>12684187
I love you. You can continue with anything you like now.

>> No.12684250

>>12684197

Thanks. I'm really looking forward to seeing how a one-on-one session works out. It'll partly be a prototype to see if we can get a 4-player skype group we keep talking about up and running.

>> No.12684271

>>12684228

I think this is my last yithian. I'm a little surprised, I could've sworn I had more...

>> No.12684313

>>12684228

Oop, one more

Question here - like I said earlier, I like running soundtracks. Short of e-mailing my friend a bunch of MP3s and saying "Here, play this", is there a good streaming radio service I could use to play tracks for him?

Ideally I'd like to sync up our audio experience.

>> No.12684321

Have some more Mi-Go.

>> No.12684324

Ha, and another one. Awesome.

>> No.12684334

>>12684321

Fffff it would help if I didn't mess up the captcha.

>> No.12684344

>>12684334

>> No.12684348

>>12684321

You want more migo? OK coming up

(Unless you're offering instead, and the pic just didn't load)

>> No.12684352

>>12684344

>> No.12684367

>>12684344

Oh hell yes. This is fine. Do you know the illustrator or was this just a happy random find?

>>12684334

Also nice!

>> No.12684385

Not technically Lovecraft, but I've always loved the Hounds of Tindalos.

>> No.12684386

Sweet, all these are migo pics I don't have too. Thanks anon!

>> No.12684419

>>12684367

Sadly I don't have a source!

Have a Flying Polyp to make up for it.

>> No.12684436

>>12684385

Very nice. That's probably the best hound pic I've seen so far to be honest.

Also impressed you know the hounds weren't Lovecraft's creation, most people don't know it was Frank Belknap Long who made them and that Lovecraft just gave them a shout out in Whisperer in the Darkness

>> No.12684469

>>12684419

Also very nice, love that translucency.

Haven't gotten in any Nyarlathotep yet...

>> No.12684479

>>12684436

When I first went through my voracious "Lovecraft" phase I made sure to read most of the writers parallel to him, so I made sure to differentiate between his own creations and the ones he simply included in his works. It was sort of a shared universe for a number of related authors anyway.

Except Derleth. He can go fuck himself.

>> No.12684490

>>12684469

>> No.12684499

lumley sucks

you want modern cthulhu mythos? read delta green

>> No.12684511

>> No.12684521

>>12684499
Fuck yeah. Stephen Alzis is best Nyarlathotep avatar of the year, all years. (literally)

>> No.12684525

>>12684499

You want modern horror? Read Ligotti.

>> No.12684546

>>12684525
gotta say, disappointed in his work

richard laymon is great for general horror, people driven to madness

>> No.12684571

>>12684479

>>When I first went through my voracious "Lovecraft" phase I made sure to read most of the writers parallel to him, so I made sure to differentiate between his own creations and the ones he simply included in his works.

Me too. I love some of the collaborative stuff, like how he and Robert Bloch killed off each other's author stand-ins in their short stories as a kind of ultimate in-joke.

>>Except Derleth. He can go fuck himself.

Yeaaaaaaaah. God, eve putting aside how he missed the point of the mythos his stuff is so god damn dull.

>> No.12684575

I'm a gug

I'm a gug

Suck my diiiiiiiiick

>> No.12684585

>>12684575

>> No.12684594

i think the system, after reading over it, is perfect, light but with a lot of depth in terms of rp, and it makes sense, unlike d20

>> No.12684600

>>12684521
But makes Alzis an avatar is just too easy. I prefer him as a human sorcerer powerful enough to pretend to godhood. And for some reason Nyarly's ok with it...

>> No.12684636

>>12684575

Pic saved as: GUG VS DORFS

>>12684525

I love Ligotti, although I can understand why he's not to everyone's tastes.

I've really liked Laird Barron's stuff, and Micahel Shea is a writer I think no horror fan should miss. He's a little hard to find but Cthulhu 2000, one of the most popular Lovecraftian story collections ever, has Shea's "Fat Face". (AND TED Klein's "Black Man With a Horn" which was also aces)

>>12684521

I love how people in the know in the DG universe don't even dance around the fact, they just go ahead saying "Yeah that smug bastard is probably one of Nyarlathotep's masks"

>> No.12684665

>>12684600

That's also an interesting take, although I did like that Alziz had no access to a lot of his godlike overmind and didn't really know WHY he was incarnating as a human in this particular time and place. But being the crawling chaos he just rolled with it.

>> No.12684668

You know, the King in Yellow's a fairly decent guy if you read the book. I mean sure kinda vengeful, but it's implied the Carcosa had long ago slipped into decadence and slighted him in some way.

Now that I think he's probably a kind of vengeful alien. Christ figure. An unknown king, wrapped in funerary shrouds, a god of shepherds, even quotes to bible when he drags some guy away in one of the origional stories. Then Derleth did some stuff and gave him tentacles or some shit if I recall?

That and predates the rest of the mythos by 30 years.

>> No.12684694

>>12684668
>Derleth

There's your problem right there.

>> No.12684707

>>12684668
DG-Hastur is way way better. Hastur isn't even really an entity, it's an entropic force. The Yellow King is just a sort of herald that appears before Hastur totally has it's way with a planet or whatever.

>> No.12684709

You know, for some reason Alzis description made me immediately think "if this was merged with 40k, he would defiantly be the modern day guise of the Emperor."

Him being one of Narly's masks seems a little, meh, too obvious an answer to be true.

>> No.12684716

>>12684668

Derleth bascially made him a Cthulhu palette swap which was beyond ridiculous.

I love the KiY for those reasons too. It's a crime Robert Chambers just dabbled with weird fiction then went back to pumping out crappy romances.

>>You know, the King in Yellow's a fairly decent guy if you read the book. I mean sure kinda vengeful, but it's implied the Carcosa had long ago slipped into decadence and slighted him in some way.

I've always been fascinated with how the KiY is at once utterly alien and incomprehensible and doesn't explain itself at all to us, and at the same time how it seems to be the only deity aside from Nyarlathotep which bothers to acknowledge individual human beings on a personal level.

>> No.12684723

>>12684668

This is a pretty curious case, ward

>> No.12684758

>>12684709
I like to think of him as like an Arabic Randall Flagg, from the Stand.

>> No.12684761

>>12684707

I thought DG's version of Hastur was interesting (John Tynes basically has the world's biggest thing for the KiY - he talked about how he was writing Hastur into DG at a time in his life where he was severely depressed and believed on some level that his version of Carcosa was real). But something about it never entirely clicked with me. Still, he had some fascinating ideas for adventures in Carcosa.

>> No.12684774

>>12684636

I absolutely adored most of T.E.D. Klein's short stories, but my GOD was Ceremonies just awful. You couldn't pay me to drag myself through that again in this lifetime.

>> No.12684775

>>12684709
Again, in my games Alzis is a mortal sorcerer who lets everyone think he's a mask so they won't give him shit about what he's doing.

And Nyarly sees this and laughs his ass off. This human is entertaining enough to let the blasphemy stand.

>> No.12684782

>>12684761
You have to admit that Night Floors was a really cool adventure set-up though.

>> No.12684798

>>12684758

Well King has flat out stated Randal Flagg IS Nyarlathotep, so...

Back to Hastur for a moment, I really recommend the Tatters of the King campaign. Great stuff, has everything from intimate little set pieces to globe-trotting across the world and into the Plateaus of Leng in order to stop the KiY from reaching earth.

>> No.12684823

>>12684798
I think he's just Nyarlathotepesque. He partakes of the same stereotype.

>> No.12684833

>>12684716
One wears no mask, the other is nothing but masks... if ever the two duked it out I wonder who would win?

It's also kinda made me see a minor duelism in the mythos, You have Narly and his gang who all give homage to Azathoth, the nuclear chaos at heart of the universe.

Then you have Yog-Sothoth, the Gate and the Key, he who stands beyond the threshold of reality and those who give homage to him.

I can't help but think that the story "Dreams at the Witch House" points to a rivalry between the two. Yog-Sothoth aids the protagonist with dreams and visions in his eventual quest of striking down a powerful servant of Narthlhotep in his guise of "The Black Man"

Then you have folks like Shub Niggurath who don't really seem to give a shit either way becasue they have their own fucking buisness going on (literally in her case.)

>> No.12684852

>>12684774

God, I know. At the end of it all my last impression was "Well you know what at least that girl got laid"

The last really good horror novel I read was Summer of Night by Dan Simmons. Now that I highly recommend.

>>12684782

Oh yeah. Tynes' is always really solid (he coauthored my other favorite RPG of all time, Unknown Armies). I think I just have a different tastes in what constitutes the decadence/weirdness of Carcosa.

>> No.12684857

>>12684798

Randall Flagg was hypnotized and eaten by a Wilbur Whateley-esque spider baby.
He's Nyarlathotep in the same sense that this is Nyarlathotep.

>> No.12684905

>>12684857

You expect me to believe that Nyarlathotep would ever take the guise of an anime loli, the very definition of everything that is wrong with the Japanese animation indus-

Wait a minute...

>> No.12684922

>>12684857

...see I have not actually READ the Stand, so...

Way to drop the ball there, Nephrenka.

>>12684833

>>One wears no mask, the other is nothing but masks... if ever the two duked it out I wonder who would win?

Me too. I'm a sucker for stories where mythos deities directly oppose each other. I think C. J. Henderson is a mediocre to hackish author but I succumbed and bought one of his collections when I learned he did a story where Nyarlathotep was impersonating the KiY which got Hastur MAD.

>>It's also kinda made me see a minor duelism in the mythos, You have Narly and his gang who all give homage to Azathoth, the nuclear chaos at heart of the universe.

>>Then you have Yog-Sothoth, the Gate and the Key, he who stands beyond the threshold of reality and those who give homage to him.

>>I can't help but think that the story "Dreams at the Witch House" points to a rivalry between the two. Yog-Sothoth aids the protagonist with dreams and visions in his eventual quest of striking down a powerful servant of Narthlhotep in his guise of "The Black Man"

I really like that. It's cool that these little twists and subcurrents to the very fluid substance of the Cthulhu mythos pop up when you start to think about them.

>> No.12684928

>>12684798
Do you know where i can find a link? I can't find Tatters of the King anywhere : (

>> No.12684973

>>12684922

I also admit I DO like the rivalry between Cthulhu and Hastur that some people have read into the mythos. Because that means whenever Deep Ones and Hastur's Cultists bump into each other it's time for a brawl. And who wouldn't want to see THAT?

>> No.12684979

>>12684922

Spider-demonchild-boy mind-reads, mind-controls and kills Flagg in the later books in the Dark Tower series, not The Stand.
For this reason and others, I recommend that you start the Dark Tower series but stop about halfway through.
Pick it up, put it down, and walk away.
Never look back.

>> No.12684994

This is what I do when I want a "fast leveling" game,
when going to try and level up a ticked skill, let them roll, if they "fail" the roll and get bonus points, they roll a d10, (sometimes I use a d6 times 2 if I relaly want things to go fast, I do this a lot in 4-5 session games), if they "suceed" the roll and don't level up the skill they roll a d4.

>> No.12685006

>>12684922
>>12684833

Lovecraft's stuff is rife with that sort of conflict. Even before Derleth went and mucked around with it, you had the Elder Things and Cthulhu's spawn at odds with one another, who in turn swept up Dagon and his immortal fishmen as the equivalents of native lackies. The Mi-go seem to worship Nyarlathotep and Shub-Niggurath and are themselves hated by Hastur, but god only knows where the loyalties of sentient fungus truly lie.

And then there's the Great Race of Yith, who basically gave everyone a giant middle finger by saying "Fuck you guys, we're going to the FUTURE, see you in ten billion years." And then they did it AGAIN with the beetle people that apparently rise up after humans become extinct (speaking of, why hasn't THAT been explored more?), and presumably continue to do the whole transplanting thing until the end of time.

And then there's Shub Niggurath, whose only real goal seems to be raping everyone and pumping out horrible alien babies.

>> No.12685007

>>12684979
It's really good otherwise, seriously

>> No.12685045

>>12684928

Sorry. I grabbed the physical copy as soon as it came out because last time I passed over a CoC book (Fatal Experiments, coincidentally a collection with another really fine King in Yellow-themed adventure) it took me forever to find.

I'd be surprised if Chaosium didn't do a reprint eventually. Maybe try the rapidshares?

>> No.12685055

I've been running a story where a character just got his ass dragged into the Dreamlands after being drugged in order to be interrogated (I've been incorporating various Fae as beings who are coterminous with the Dreamlands )

Now I have a minor question, does magic work properly in the dreamlands or is that a case-by-case situation? Also, will injury incurred in the Dreamlands still be there when you return or is that assumed to reset each time you enter (unless you get killed of course, in which case, say goodbye to dreams forever.)

>> No.12685059

>>12685045
Which was why I grabbed the Masks of Nyarlathotep hardcover right quick this time around.

>> No.12685093

>>12685055

>>Now I have a minor question, does magic work properly in the dreamlands or is that a case-by-case situation?

God I wish I had the Dreamlands sourcebook. I'm not sure, I imagine so (and given it's the dreamlands you could put in weird new spells). Just keep in mind some contact deity spells might be wonky. Nyarlathotep acts as the gatekeeper to the gods there.

>>Also, will injury incurred in the Dreamlands still be there when you return or is that assumed to reset each time you enter (unless you get killed of course, in which case, say goodbye to dreams forever.)

I'd say play around with the fluid nature of time - maybe some of the injury in the Dreamlands has healed when the PCs come back, but they now have a scar, or aren't fully up to speed yet.

>> No.12685107

>>12685059

Is that out again?!

Excuse me, I may have to go and waste some money right now.

>> No.12685114

>>12685107
http://catalog.chaosium.com/product_info.php?products_id=5151

>> No.12685126

>>12685006

Haha I just noticed the camera crew there. Awesome.

>>12684313

No answers to this one guys?

>> No.12685136

>>12685055
>>12685093

>Just keep in mind some contact deity spells might be wonky.

DO NOT CONTACT THE GREAT ONES
DO NOT TRY AND SEE THEM
DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THEM IF YOU CAN HELP IT

They're having a party at the top of their fucking mountain and you're not invited, that's all you need to know.

>> No.12685139

>>12685006
Of course we can't forget Noden's Old God of the Brocean who hates Narly too (no wonder too, guy's a serious prick to anything sapient, or even sentient.) and has his nightgaunts hunt down any servants thereof.

Then of course Bast(Goddess of cats who of course probably doesn't give two shits about anything ), becasue Lovecraft had to be furry for cats or something. Hates rats though... hated them with a passion from he's descriptions in various stories.

>> No.12685155

>>12685007

Maybe. Maybe I'm just blinded by how monumentally stupid I thought Flagg's death was. Maybe Stephen King's literal self-insertion into the story really was well-handled and I only hate it by extension from hating the entire spider baby clusterfuck. Maybe a time loop just like the one at the end of the Mighty Max cartoon from the early '90s was genuinely the only way to give the story any kind of ending. Maybe I'm like those people who started hating the original Star Wars trilogy just because they had all that hate left over from the prequels and the EU. I don't think so, though.

>> No.12685186

>>12685155
>>12685155

>Maybe a time loop just like the one at the end of the Mighty Max cartoon

ARGH DON'T REMIND ME

>> No.12685213

You know who gave us some admirably grotesque-terrifying mythos creatures that have stood the test of time? Ramsey Campbell, that's who.

>> No.12685254

>>12685213
>>12685213

I like how you misspelled his name. We'd have been right fucked if you actually had put Y'golonac d-FUCK

>> No.12685262

Seriously, Y'Gonolac is some weird Entity who was recruiting cultists in the backend of some adult books tore in an impossibly bleak corner of England. And the thing is it still seems to work.

>> No.12685267

>>12685254
YOU'VE DOOMED US AAAaaaaa ...

>> No.12685297

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HSD4jS9Kx4

>> No.12685306

>>12685254

Whoops. It's getting late. Y'Golonac. THere we

ah. damn

>> No.12685392

Damn I've really got to go to bed. Good night and thanks for a great thread everyone!

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