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[ERROR] No.10936596 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

Being a Chaos Marine must suck ass. You are under the whims of some sadistic Chaos Gods, have to get along with all sort of nasty creatures and in some cases you even rot to no end.

I am even sure some still feel an endless guilt but is too late to change sides now.

>> No.10936642

>>10936596

Yes its sucks. But they deserve that and worse.

>> No.10936665

Better under the whims of real gods with real power than under the whims of a rotting, powerless corpse.

>> No.10936668

Nurgle actually sounds downright pleasant if you ask me. Sure you might smell like shit, but you'd enjoy it, and you'd be immortal and all that fun stuff on top of that.
The only downside is you're sort of aberrant to everything else out there

>> No.10936676

The ones who were loyal died on Istavan

>> No.10936681

Why do you say that?

I only love one thing and that's killing, as a chaos marine I get to kill whatever I want whenever I want.

The more I kill, the more powerful my gods make me.

I don't understand the downside.

>> No.10936687

>>10936665
I don't really consider one significantly better

>> No.10936726

>>10936668

>The Plague Marine's subsequent surrender to Nurgle left the Death Guard with an incredible depth of self-hatred and despair that only fuels their sole desire: to infect the strong, slay the weak and bring everyone and everything to rot and ruin. Their own debasement would no longer seem so shameful if Nurgle's pestilence dragged the rest of the galaxy down into the same depths of ruin and despair.

They don't sound like a happy bunch

>> No.10936771

It probably sucks, but being a CSM would suck the same way being a schizophrenic would suck: you'd probably have brief moments of lucidity where you stare at your bloodied hands and realize what kind of monster you've become, but for the most part your a half-crazed killing machine who wants to inflict massive amounts of pain on the universe, for fun.

>> No.10936802

I think it is implied the weak ones got used as fodder, and if the massacre of good guys from Horus heresy sets a precedent, it is probably a common occurrence.

>> No.10936806

Retcon the fluff 0.5 editions. Back then chaos was more than a bunch of puppy kicking cartoon villains and there was actual reason to worship their gods

>> No.10936869

This, like all things Mareen related is dependent on Chapter/Legion

>> No.10939309

u r completely mistaken op, we chaos marines love what we do, and we do genocide like no other being in the galaxy, some times i kill my own brothers if it takes to long to get to a fight, and the rest of time not spent on murder is spent doing whatever the fuck i want, this is why we are chaos, we dont abide by any more rules or any codex anymore, so fuck you and fuck opinions. FOR CHAOS GLORY!!!!! WE SHALL KILL!!!!

>> No.10939380

WHEN DER EMPRAH SAYS "VE IS DER MASTER RACE!"
THEN VE AVE! *PBTTT*
AVE! *PBTTT*
RIGHT IN DER EMPRAH'S FACE,
NOT TO LOVE DER EMPRAH IS A GREAT DISGRACE
SO VE AVE! *PBTTT*
AVE! *PBTTT*
RIGHT IN DER EMPRAH'S FACE!

>> No.10939480

>>10939380
VEN LORD SOLAR SAYS "VE OWN THE VORLDS AND SPACE!"
ZEN VE AVE! *PBTTT*
AVE! *PBTTT*
RIGHT IN LORD SOLAR'S FACE,
VEN HERR ROBOUTE SAYS THEY'LL NEVER GLASS DIS PLACE,
ZEN VE AVE! *PBTTT*
AVE! *PBTTT*
RIGHT IN HERR ROBOUTE'S FACE!

>> No.10939488

>>10936596
Here's a recap of what chaos really is, despite if they know it or just vaguely sense it.

1. All souls end up in the warp. If you got a warp signature (as in, you exist, and you're not a null) you will be sent to the warp. No past go, no collecting 200 dollars, straight to the warp.

2. The warp is psychic energy. It's always there. The eye of terror is a rip in realspace, and is just a doorway for physical bodies to enter. If otherwise you enter through some other means like sorcery.

3. Get used to it. You ever live a trillion years and stay sane? No, don't expect to remain as you are now. You will change and chaos embodies everything. Chaos is called chaos because it is everything, not just what you don't want.

4. Pick your poison. Reality in the warp made by 'elements' of emotion is much like raging waters, earthquakes shaping seabeds and volcanoes making islands.

The chaos marines have the right idea if they realize it at all. They've made their pacts and those pacts will keep them safe from whatever else they don't want to pick sides with. They love their pacts if they know the whole story behind it in fact, your picture related.

Nurgle is the friendliest and most zealous when obtaining souls to forcefully shove his ways of live down their throat. No pain, and if you get used to it as a new way of life. Study some Buddhism, specifically the part where you learn that the more you desire something you can't have - the more depressed you get. Sure it's a driving force to desire something but when your soul is safe for all eternity then why bother? You don't even have to FIGHT for him, just count his diseases as a job!

Also, Nurgle is a reverse life god, his jungle grows every time his afflictions kill something or somebody. He claims and respawns it in his domain. He is a god of life, but a very greedy one at that.

>> No.10939505

>>10939480
IS VE NOT DER SPESS MEHREENS?
HUMAN PURE SPESS MEHREENS?
JA, VE IS DER SPESS MEHREENS! (SUPER DUPER SPESS MEHREENS!)

>> No.10939523

>>10939505
IS DIS IMPERIUM OF MAN SO GOOD?
VOULD YOU LEAVE IT IF YOU COULD?
JA DIS IMPERIUM OF MAN IS GOOD!
VE VOULD LEAVE IT IF VE COULD!

>> No.10939538

chaos should be individualism and radical freedom. it should be enticing and seductive. making CSM eternal slaves and fodder is fucking stupid.

just like the dark side in star wars, it shouldn't be some retarded awful choice that only dumbass protagonists would make ("lol forcel ightning will help me be a stronger good guy!!"), it should be something the reader/viewer can identify with. it should be insidious because it makes you yourself consider whether you would use it.

>> No.10939570

>>10936726

That was back in the old days, in the 4th edition we were
happy and full of joys (read the fluff)

plus Nurgle officialy fucking some eldar goddess
which means we to are encourage to "love" some eldar women, oh! the emotion

>> No.10939590

>>10939523
VE BRING DER VORLDS TO ORDER.
HEIL EMPRAH'S VORLD'S TO ORDER!
EVERYVUN OF XENOS RACE,
VILL LOVE DER EMPRAH'S FACE,
VEN VE BRING TO DER VORLDS DIS ORDER!

>> No.10939599

>>10939590
WHEN DER EMPRAH SAYS "VE IS DER MASTER RACE!"
THEN VE AVE! *PBTTT*
AVE! *PBTTT*
RIGHT IN DER EMPRAH'S FACE,
NOT TO LOVE DER EMPRAH IS A GREAT DISGRACE
SO VE AVE! *PBTTT*
AVE! *PBTTT*
RIGHT IN DER EMPRAH'S FACE!

>> No.10939624

>>10939599
WHEN DER EMPRAH SAYS "VE IS DER MASTER RACE!"
THEN VE AVE! *PBTTT*
AVE! *PBTTT*
RIGHT IN DER EMPRAH'S FACE,
NOT TO LOVE DER EMPRAH IS A GREAT DISGRACE
SO VE AVE! *PBTTT*
AVE! *PBTTT*
RIGHT IN DER EMPRAH'S FACE!

>> No.10939636

>>10936596
Being anyone sucks ass in 40k.

>> No.10939662

Praise father Nurgle

>> No.10939679

So, what, I'm seeing here, is that Chaos Marines joined because of an awesome propaganda song?
I can understand their reasoning, Der Fuhrer's Face is a great song.

>> No.10939700

>>10939636
What he said.

But, if I had to be a chaos marine I'd be a plague marine, because Nurgle is the dude of the 40k universe. He knows how to "abide" and he'll take care of you.

And he's got a garden. How many chaos gods have a garden?

>> No.10939764

'The true madness of the Chaos traiters is he coughs up his stomach as he rises in the morning, picks the crusty daemon shit off his tentacles, wrestles down his sword as it screams for his blood, and when looking upon loyalists honestly thinks to himself 'I got the better deal'.'
-Me

>> No.10939821

>>10939764
"Quality of life is only what the personal protagonists perspective expects."
-any creature in the chain of life

>> No.10939857

RAGGGHHH LILARCOR ANGRY

>> No.10939886

>>10939700
Slaanesh has great vistas of unspoiled natural beauty in Edenic proportions.

Also, some of them have Willy Wonka chocolate waterfalls. And every source of running water has a wet tshirt contest with sextuple-breasted demonettes.

>> No.10939930

>>10936596

It is never too late to repent in death.

>> No.10939938

>>10939886
If by wet T-shirt you mean wet human skin contest, you'd be closer to the mark.
ENDLESS DEBAUCHERY, REMEMBER

>> No.10939967

>>10939700

Slaneesh is described as having a pleasure garden...

Either way, being ALMOST anyone sucks in 40k. Slaneeshi cults are pretty much blissed out of their mind all the time.

Papa Nurgle takes care of his children, and while it sickens us, they love it.

The Space Wolves and the Orks are having the throne-damned time of their lives.

>> No.10939988

>>10939967
Word man...

Word.

>> No.10939996

>>10939938
But human skin doesn't go see through when it get's wet.

>> No.10940014

>>10939988
No no, Doom Rider was a member of the Emperor's Children, not the Word Bearers

L2 Fluff

>> No.10940015

When people realize bodies are just vessels for the soul, suddenly they see skin as clothing rather then essence.

....----====*
the more you you know

>> No.10940034

>>10940014
Well that's like your opinion man.

>> No.10940043

>>10939967
Nurgle: CONSTANT DESPAIR TO THE POINT WHERE YOU NO LONGER GIVE A SHIT

>> No.10940056

>>10939967
Gork an' Mork is da best 'fing fer 40k! Da Orkz will olly-wayz win in da end!

>> No.10940072

>>10939967
So are the White Scars, as a matter of fact.
THEY'RE MONGOLS IN SPACE IN A GALAXY OF CONSTANT WAR.

>> No.10940089

>>10940043
This

>> No.10940095

>>10940014
Is he an actual character? I thought he was just a 40k version of Dr. Rockso.

>> No.10940123

>I am even sure some still feel an endless guilt but is too late to change sides now.

Actually, Horus led his rebellion under the claim that the Emperor was betraying the ideals of the great crusade in order to enshrine himself as a god to whom all mankind must worship... and looky looky, that's exactly what happened.

The old school CSM know Horus was right.

>> No.10940140

>>10940095
ITT- got into the hobby from Dawn of War

>> No.10940160

>>10940123

And I'd rather "live" under chaos than be killed by my own brothers in the Imperium.

>> No.10940163

>>10939996
IT DOES IF YA CARVE IT OFF IN THIN ENOUGH SLICES HAHAHAHAHAHAH

think really REALLY thin deli turkey slices shit isnt completely see through but you can kinda see whats behind it lol

>> No.10940167

>>10940043
>>10940089
Please read:

>>10939488

If you remain unconvinced, read the beasts of nurgle fluff entry in the chaos daemon codex. To show if you've never known a different life, nurgles life is a good life. Just forget the past or change your preferences.

>> No.10940175

>>10940140
And went back to Dawn of War after seeing the prices of models.

>> No.10940180

>>10940095
He is a retconned daemon prince on a bike from 3rd edition.

>> No.10940193

Why would it be a bad thing to be a Plague Marine? SM are USUALLY beyond vanity and hedonism anyway.

>> No.10940213

>>10940167
in summary
>beasts of nurgle love to play and play with any creatures they're told to go play with. They never know really why their playpals stop moving after a while, they just get bored and move onto the next thing that moves.

>> No.10940218

>>10940167
Nurgle IS despair.
You can't extricate him from that.

>> No.10940226

>>10940218
Nurgle is only despair in the sense that Slaanesh is cocks.

>> No.10940229

Did a couple of Jaegers come through this thread or something?

>> No.10940240

>>10940193

No hot daemonette dickings? I doubt plague marines get any, ever.

For /tg/ that'd be a huge deal breaker.

>> No.10940245

>>10940226
Slaanesh is ecstasy in the same way that Nurgle is despair, you stupid fuck.
It's what they SPRANG from.

>> No.10940250

>>10940218
He is fuelled by despair of the change.

You ever know why his little gremlins called nurglings are so playful? Or know why his beasts of nurgle always act like puppies?

That's nurgle without an outside sentience interfering. Now add someone who's just been inducted into the life of nurgle, and what do you get? Despair.

He is reverse life, not unlife. Reverse everything and you have to backstep into the opposite side of the coin.

Despair does fuel him, but so many other things do that too, especially the souls he collects.

>> No.10940270

>>10940250
Also, why I say reverse life is that we're genetically engineered to have sex, to be attracted and so on to things we're designed to want instinctively.

Nurgle is opposed to that.

>> No.10940300

Has nobody here thought that being an average Khornate trooper would be pretty sweet? You get to rape and murder and do all kinds of awesome shit, and besides, being in a Khornate regiment is just like being in an Imperial regiment, only with different iconography.

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>> No.10940309

>>10940270

You're supposed to let go of your petty desires, and after you understand the benefits papa Nurgle gives you, you'll wonder why you cared in the first place.

>> No.10940311

>>10940300
>labotomied
>rape
does not compute bro

>> No.10940336

>>10940309
Pretty much who's point of view you adhere to.

Either way he's the most mis-understood god. And I like that about him as well.

>> No.10940337

>>10940309
Again, it's not happiness, it's comparative happiness, brought on by complete apathy.

>> No.10940342

somebody post some awesome CSM models?

>> No.10940351

>>10940342

>> No.10940355

>>10940342
Want me to start dumping my nurgle art folder?

>> No.10940360

>>10940300
if khornates crave blood and slaughter, slaaneshi crave sex (and being really rad at the guitar or whatever), and nurgle's guys are just stinky buddhists, what do tzeentch followers do as their bread and butter

>> No.10940376

>>10940360
They think they're free.

>> No.10940392

>>10940360
Misconception bro.

Slaanesh is about excess in all it's forms. If someone loves carving into stone, slaanesh will enhance that so much he'll be the fucking michael of his time. If someone loves swordfighting, he'll be the fucking champion every year he participates in contests.

Slaanesh is excess, just because something is common doesn't label slaanesh as a single desire gifter.

>> No.10940429

>>10940392
No, a true Slaaneshi would get so obsessed with sculpting stone that he'd end up like that book where the sculptor kills people so that he can make his beautiful sculptures (I can't recall its name but Little Shop of Horrors was based on it).

>> No.10940431

>>10940342

NANANANANANANANA!

LET'S DO COCAINE!

>> No.10940438

>>10940360
Tzeentch is hope, change, plotting, scheming, underminers and planners of age. Naturally magics fall into this category heavily.

Anyone who desires for a change, or makes a change with a little power involved then tzeentch reaps the benefits.


Khorne is about servitude to their master, the glory of the battle and the ultimate end of all ends in conflict as the catalyst.

Blood, Skulls, Bodycount... All for their master. Rage is a befitting factor as the driving emotion behind it. If you got pissed off someone killed a village and went to avenge them, who did you just serve? Khorne.

>> No.10940460

>>10940429
That too, so many ways it would take it.

Read some slaaneshi fluff from 3.5 chaos codex. It describes what I said in the last post.

>> No.10940509

>>10940360
new your times crossword puzzels and sodoku

>> No.10940540

>>10940311

I said regiment, not legion. Okay, for an example of a Khornate culture, think of the Celts. Aren't they fucking badass? Don't you want to be Slaine MacRoth?! Being a Celt would be fucking awesome, ergo, being a Khornate soldier (not marine) would be fucking awesome.

>> No.10940544

>>10939570
He isn't fucking her. He is just using her godly powers of regeneration to test his plauges.

>> No.10940563

What people don't realize, is that you don't even have to know the god to be feeding it, or even worship it.

Sure, Khorne seems to be a hands-on kinda guy. Telling his minions to do this and that, but in reality, you don't even have to know his name to call for his favor.

You just have to shed blood. To kill and destroy. To rage and hate and cause pain and grief. It's true. Those that he has touched can feel it inside them, like a burning ember. Always tempting the person in question to give in, give over to their nature and indulge in the mindless slaughter that Khorne encourages so very much of.

Of course, those disciplined, by either themselves, or some greater purpose, could simply ignore that corruption. Or even go as far as to purge it from their own souls. Others would seek to refine it. To turn that daemonic bloodlust into something usable. A frenzy in which a person could go against their enemies with.

Buuut, that's treading a thin line.

>> No.10940587

>>10940563
>Imperium teaches to hate thy enemy
>Imperium worships the emperor
>emperor is the deity of hate

>> No.10940622

>>10940563

Khorne isn't just mindless killing. He's also about pride, honour and strength. He don't take no shit from nobody, no-how. Khorne is just as much a revolutionary's god as a berzerkers god.

>> No.10940634

>>10940438
Tzobama?

>> No.10940659

>>10936596

Actually, in the 13th Black Crusade, one Tzeentchian sorceror who had slowly been realizing just how far they'd fallen deliberately crashed his ship in the warp, taking out a fair sized army.

>> No.10940664

>>10940355

Please, I need some more inspiration to finish my own plague marine piece.

>> No.10940680

>>10940659
Source? I need confirmation CSM can kill themselves.

>> No.10940692

I wonder if there is ever a moment where a Chaos Marine stops in the middle of killing and looks at himself and thinks 'Wow, I fucked up" But then goes back to killing

>> No.10940707

>>10940664

>> No.10940711

>>10940680
Unless the Chaos Gods actively stop them, i dont see why they wouldnt be able to.

>> No.10940718

>>10940707

>> No.10940728

>>10940718

>> No.10940731

>>10940659
>>10940659

Dear God, that's like..

DOUBLE HERESY.

>> No.10940737

>>10940728
f'k forgot to click image

>> No.10940745

>>10940737

>> No.10940758

>>10940745
>personal inspiration

>> No.10940768

>>10940758

>> No.10940769

>>10940680
White Dwarf, one of the two from that summer.

>> No.10940778

>>10940768
Double heresy you say?

This will make you question yourself... Perhaps.

>> No.10940787

is there a higher res version of OP's pic?

>> No.10940791

>>10940622
He's about pride and honor for sure. Only, here's the catch. It's indulgence in pride and honor. It's the abuse of the actions of "Pride" and "Honor" that he's about.

For a knight that upholds his honor, by being virtuous, and prides himself, by being pious and holds himself up to a code of conduct. Is NOT Khornes favored.

However, a knight that cruelly exterminates a village to appease his "Honor", or a commander who refuses to back out of a fight, because his PRIDE is on the line, is certainly under his gaze.

>> No.10940792

>> No.10940811

>>10940791
Nobody ever can pull a veil over chaos' eye and say "no, what we do does not empower you, so nya!"

No, all acts of violence, all acts of bloodshed for better or worse gives khorne power. That is why he's the most powerful chaos god of the four.

>> No.10940824

>> No.10940837

>trolling material for chaos

>> No.10940846

>> No.10940852

how does chaos undivided work, are they like principled worshippers who genuinely believe chaos should prosper, and jack off to entropy? or do they just go parttime for each god?

can you specialize (say, become a noise marine) and still worship chaos undivided?

how do you worship them all if some of them hate eachother?

>> No.10940861

>> No.10940873

>>10940852
Undecided servants or those who serve chaos as an entity, or otherwise personal points of view colliding with streamline beliefs.

Because it's allowed and most tolerated.

>> No.10940876

>>10940791

Only in the herpa-derp new editions. A knight that defends his honour by killing someone is still defending his honour, and Khorne has destroyed his followers for killing the weak and defenseless (ie destroying a village of innocent people). There is no glory to be found in exterminating women and children. Khorne is about standing up for yourself, being the strongest, claiming the most glory and bowing to no man or god.

>> No.10940880

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>> No.10940890

Each god can represent a negative, but also a positive
Khorne: Rage, Courage
Tzneentch: Uh..not really sure on this unless you count Change or Ambition as negative, Hope
Nurgle: Despair, Acceptance
Slaanesh: Desire, Love

>> No.10940901

>>10940890

Teez is Deceit as a negative.

>> No.10940905

Well when you die your dark master just rebuilds your body because his house is where your soul goes.

>> No.10940911

>> No.10940915

>>10940876
No actually older editions, liber chaotica, 3.0, second edition...

Khorne has always been this way and this is one of the main reasons people actually keep their khorne armies.

What year did you come into 40k? I was 1999, and I still have most of my books.

In fact, the oldest of khorne fluff were knightly as you described. In fact, khorne was the ideal knight god of choice back then.

>> No.10940927

>>10940905
You most likely turn into a harpy and remain a daemon.

Check out codex daemons fluff.

>> No.10940928

>>10940901
There we go, thats the one

>> No.10940942

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>> No.10940958

>>10940915

I didn't mean that Khorne was *exclusively* about being honourable and brave, the killing is a large part as well, but I'm just saying that there is more to it than just 'HERPITTY DERPITTY DOO, I KILL YOU!'

>> No.10940963

>> No.10940975

i'd like to see more fluff painting CSM as principled revolutionaries fighting against a corrupt and evil imperium, rather than psychotic cartoon villains

>> No.10940976

>>10940958
Just because something is basic doesn't mean it's a twinklepire fad.

Call it a derp, or a herp(ies) but it's there despite how you feel about it.

>> No.10940978

>> No.10940989

>>10940975
That's just a pleasure secluded only to the chaos players who know the truth of things.

I rather keep it secluded so tons of 13 year olds won't be showing up with alpha legion armies full of thousand sons.

>> No.10941001

>>10940890
anarchy for tzeentch

>> No.10941012

Nearing the end of my pic folder.

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>> No.10941053

+1 for CSM models, keep them coming.

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>> No.10941068

>>10940976

All I'm saying is that there is more to the appeal of Khorne than just being an angry motherfucker. You don't just wake up one day and act out a death metal song on a whim.

>> No.10941086

>>10941053
>+1 for non art nurgle stuff
Well if you want me to stop...

>> No.10941103

>>10941068
Khorne has the freedom of merit.

Find any reason you want to fight and go for it.

It's just the famous "Berzerkers of Khorne" put an image in everyones head that you gotta be all guts and glory, but mostly guts to be a servant.

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One more after this and it's done.

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>>10941134

Much appreciated, got some new stuff to work with.

>> No.10941272

anyone got a source on this?

>> No.10941327

>>10941272

My fuck that's wicked.

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