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Am I the only one worried about the Imperiums art design?

Every year GW is slowly making the Imperium of Man's overall design sleeker, smoother, more advanced, less cartoony and more reasonable.

Am I the only one who is worried by this?

>> No.10873456

WTF, are you trolling? It's hard to tell.

>> No.10873463
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>> No.10873480

>more reasonable.
>Pauldrons still the same size
>notseeingyourpoint.jpg

>> No.10873482

I'm worried it will stop, if that's what you mean.

>> No.10873484

>>10873480
This. Marine still looks like a marine to me.

>> No.10873516

Overall, the art for 40K is better than it was in the nineties.

I still think the artist that did the Imperial Guard and Blood Angels sucks - just don't like the style.

The Chaos stuff still looks good. The pinnacle was the last CSM codex with the full page "champions" ( I guess) for the four gods.

>> No.10873521

>>10873480
No, that SPESS MEHREEEN needs moar pauldron.

>> No.10873523
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>>10873480
>>10873484

No

THIS is a Marine

OP's image is pretty damn reasonable in comparison.

>> No.10873534

>>10873523
Tiny head is tiny.

>> No.10873562

>>10873523
SKULL SKULLS FOR THE SKULL SKULL

>> No.10873565

>>10873523

>Pea sized head
>T-Rex arms
>Barrel chest
>Oversized pauldrons (even by 40k standards)

FUCKING STUPID

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>>10873523

Gee Bill, your mom let's you have 2 pauldrons?

>> No.10873601

>>10873523
I for one don't care about the TINY HEAD marines.

>> No.10873602

>>10873523
I hate this artist so much. He ruined the Blood Angels and Space Wolves codices with his absurdly disproportionate art and hideously stringy detailing. Faces and hair are where he really fails.

Similarly, I hate the guy who did the latest Chaos Space Marines codex and the Dark Elves armybook-- that weird, greasy, slapdash look is really ugly.

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>>10873602

Some of it's good, some of it is bad, but not all.

>> No.10873636

>>10873602
I hate the Battlefleet Gothic artists. It's all in black-and-white but there's SO MUCH going on that it's hard to tell what exactly is happening.

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>>10873636

>> No.10873657

At least the Pauldrons are reasonable

>> No.10873664

>>10873619
Notice that the better pics are the ones with helmets on.

The ridiculously proportions are still really irksome to me, though.

>> No.10873672
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>>10873636
Fuck your shit.

>> No.10873676

>>10873657

By 40k standards you mean, compared to other science fiction settings the're still fuckmassive

>> No.10873685

I like the old 80's lol beakies..they had a certain adorable appeal. Definitely not the same these days. ;_;

>> No.10873693
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Deathwatch has some pretty nice SM art.

>> No.10873694

>>10873676

True, but compared to what they usually are in 40k art it's like these ones are commonly worn by the Reasonable Marines.

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>> No.10873738

wait, people actually LIKE the tiny heads, MASSIVE PAULDRONS, SPIKES EVERYWHERE, SKULLS ALL OVER THE PLACE, and OH GOD I NEED MORE FUCKING PURITY SEALS?

>> No.10873747

>>10873696
I like how the guy is going, "D00DZ LOOK AT MAH PIMP CUP!!!!!1" while the others look like they're saying, "Ugh, if we ignore him, maybe people will think we're not with him."

>> No.10873762

They're lookin pretty scrawny in the ultramarines movie.

>> No.10873767
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>> No.10873768

Every Blood Angels picture in this thread is fucking stupid.
I HAVE HUGE PAULDRONS
AND TINY ARMS
I DON'T THINK YOU THOUGHT THIS THROUGH VERY WELL

>> No.10873779

>>10873738
Over-the-top is the only way to go. And yes, we love it

>> No.10873784
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>>10873738
There's a balance to be had. I for one like things to be somewhat exaggerated but not utterly ridiculous.

>> No.10873790

>>10873738

You wouldn't understand the DARK, MATURE, and GOTHIC 40K universe.

>> No.10873792

>>10873738

>tiny heads

Wut.
The heads are massive, it's just everything else is mahoosive as well.

>> No.10873797

>>10873762

Apparently 'cos it was impossible for the animators to have them move convincingly (so they didn't look retarded), so they had to slim them down.

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>> No.10873807

>>10873768
HUGE PALDRONS
TINY ARMS
MELEE SPECIALISTS


And people bitch and moan when I got some melee squads in my guard army (20 men + Powerfists = hurt)

>> No.10873813

>>10873797

That makes sense i guess.

>> No.10873832

>>10873797

They look a lot colder without the bulk, which is ridiculous i know, but still.

>> No.10873833

>>10873784

That one isn't that bad. I find the skulls and spikes to be distasteful though (however, the spikes are CSM mainly so it was probably meant to be that way).

>> No.10873834

>>10873738

Yeah, if you're 12.

>> No.10873856

>>10873833
Skulls are a big thing for the Imperium. Momento Mori and all that. Their deity, the Emperor, died and now exists in a state of living death sot he Imperium can survive. Death and sacrifice are huge parts of the Imperial mindset.

>> No.10873878

>>10873856

It's all about the gothic imagery (which links with what you said).

It represents what was once, and was lost, and may some day be gained again.

>> No.10873895

>>10873834
So, what would someone mature like? Halo?

>> No.10873898

>>10873443
>Every year GW is slowly making the Imperium of Man's overall design sleeker, smoother, more advanced, less cartoony and more reasonable

I'm glad they're revamping the art design, the older art looks kind of lame, and not very grimdark.

The design that I am concerned about is the model design, as GW is fucking over the fluff. In the example of the Imperial Guard, the Leman Russ tank turrets don't look as robust as they used to and suddenly Plasma technology is so abundant that you can field an entire regiment of tanks where every tank has three plasma cannons. The Imperium is losing its formation of archaic designed vehicles. Next thing you know, the Land Raider Mk VIII B will look like a VW Bug with tracks.

>> No.10873946

It seems like anything with a tiny head would have an absurdly high pitched voice and move very quickly with a low fps.

"THAT'S HERESY!"

>> No.10873947
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Welcome to Warhammer 40000 where we take the most utterly obsurd, insane, over-the-top, rediculous, stupidly awesome, overpowered, etc throw it all in a blender, mass produce it and treat it as it's utterly normal and common.

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>> No.10873986

>>10873895
Halo is fucking boring.

Generic hero vs generic aliens in a generic game for a generic console.

>> No.10873999
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I like IG artwork.

>> No.10874000

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IndecisiveParody

I get the impression that GW started out wanting to parody GRIMDARK fantasy tropes.

They took Tolkien, Moorcock's Elric stories, a couple 1950s Poul Anderson fantasy novels, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and put them all in a blender set on "silly." Then they put the setting IIIIIIIINNNN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE.

But now they can't decide whether they're making fun of the overwritten, overwrought, trying-too-hard GRIMDARK or whether they're trying to be MORE GRIMDARK THAN GRIMDARK for reals.

Meh.

>> No.10874018

i still have a sense of nostalgia for the older artwork, but some of the newer stuff is more and more the way i seen the imperium of man. As long as it keeps that gothic setting etc, its gonna be all win. I have only really seen one shit space marine pic where his head looked like a golfball

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>>10874018
The older GW stuff is just...

Hilarious, I fucking love it.

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>>10873738
The tiny heads mean smaller targets; which is why SM don't always wear helmets.

Also those purity seals are serious business.

>> No.10874064

I'm pretty sure if you were wearing armor that's probably as thick as a tank's and full of functioning electronics etc the bulk would extend considerably beyond your body, making your head seem tiny.

>> No.10874088

Warhammer 40,000: Now with 20% less pauldron!

>> No.10874091

yea i love the aquilla pattern armour most. though the corvus helmet is great for raven guard :)

>> No.10874115

>>10874046

Not true at all. Read "A thousand sons" You'll see that as the Thousand Sons fought the Space Wolves they were able to take down a great many of them with a single shot simply due to the fact that most of the Space Wolves refused to wear helmets.

>> No.10874149

>>10874064

Find the cover image for the grey knights omnibus.

>> No.10874154

>>10873443
?

I dunno, videogames have consistently have mediocre concept art of 40k stuff

>> No.10874188

some of the dawn of war 2 wallpaper art is bloody amazing

>> No.10874195
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>>10874149

>> No.10874207

>40k armour looks so retarded! Look at that fucking huge pauldron!
>40k armour looks too realistic! Look at that sleek, advanced armour!

Clearly you people are all fucking faggots who are literally never happy.

>> No.10874220

>>10874207

No, that would be /v/.....

>> No.10874260

>>10874195

Perfect.
Don't know why I couldn't be bothered to google it.

This pretty much sums up the extremes of the imperium;

Make something big look smaller by putting something bigger around it

>> No.10874262

>>10873784
how do they replace their wolf pelts if they are thousands of light years away from fenris and it gets torched or some shit

do they have big storage chambers in their ships for spares?

>> No.10874272

>>10874262

how do they fit that beard in a helmet

>> No.10874283

>>10874260
I suppose all of them have hairy ass balls

>> No.10874286

Needs more PAULDRONS WITH PAULDRONS ON THEM.

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>>10874286

>> No.10874321

>>10874272

Extensor beard. Implants allow the hairs to retract back into follicles when helmeted.

In addition, the beard is capable of deploying so fast it can pierce a Baneblade's hull.

>> No.10874417

>>10874207

THIS JESUS FUCK

>> No.10874446

>>10874417
Because it's impossible for several people to have different opinions. We all just keep changing our minds.

>> No.10874463

>>10874446

>implying that /tg/ isn't a single entity

>> No.10874523

Why do people have a problem with the tiny heads of Space Marines, don't they wear like huge amounts of armor that causes there bodies to look twice as big?

>> No.10874621
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1987 vs 2010

>> No.10874641

>>10874621
whoa, where did that bottom come from?

>> No.10874664

rolled 46 = 46

Guys guys, What if a whole unit was just Pauldrons? Like.. It surrounded them totally

>> No.10874681

>>10874115
>Not true at all. Read "A thousand sons" You'll see that as the Thousand Sons fought the Space Wolves they were able to take down a great many of them with a single shot simply due to the fact that most of the Space Wolves refused to wear helmets.

I was just saying that the bulky armour makes a bigger target, I never said anything about not being able to hit a SM in the head. Besides I was joking, everyone knows SM refuse to wear helmets because of preference and not because of their massive pauldrons.

>> No.10874704

>>10874621

That one guy with the Ork head looks manly as fuck.

>> No.10874720

>>10874704

Damn, so is the guy with the bandanna and the flagbearer.

>> No.10874727

>>10873443
>Every year GW is slowly making the Imperium of Man's overall design sleeker, smoother, more advanced, less cartoony and more reasonable.
That's a bad thing?

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>>10874621

I like the bottom one better, but what's with this guy?

>> No.10874778

>>10874761
He's retarded. Didn't you know the Imperium's average IQ is 24?

>> No.10874807

>>10874761
They are all Mexican. He's the chief Mexican. True story.

>> No.10874988

1: large pauldrons are reasonable when you consider the standard firing stance of a marine with a bolter. The large, heavily armoured pauldron not only adds additional protection to the shoulder (a damn important part of the body if you want to be doing anything with your arms, like holding/steadying a gun), but it also provides additional protection to the torso.

2. Their heads are not tiny - they are usually the same size or somewhat larger than your standard human's head. It's just that the rest of their body is dramatically larger than a human body's.

>> No.10875077

>>10874807
Hey you leave Pedro alone.

>> No.10875093
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I agree, 40k aesthetics should go back to the 70s aesthetics they came from.

>> No.10875484

>>10875093
Don't you mean AdeptusArbites.jpg?

>> No.10876444

The WoD book for the Mehreens would be Space Marines: The Pauldroning.

Oh...shit...it's Deathwatch.

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I agree, Imperial cities in 40k(especially hive cities) should look like similar to Blade Runner, not Star Trek.

Pic extremely related

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>>10877098
I was thinking more flared pants and afros and day-glo. But with pauldrons.

>> No.10879178

>>10876444
I think it'd be more like:
Space Mehreens: And Nothing Else

>> No.10879180

>>10875093
Judge Dredd designs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marine designs

>> No.10879221

>>10879178
Dark Heresy
"Serve the emperor and his brutal regime while you hunt down and investigate about those who wish to destroy his decadent Empire from within!"
Rogue Trader
"Be a space conquistador, dealing with exotic situations and doing swashbuckling space opera battles!"
Deathwatch
"Play as a oversized abominatin that spits acid, eats rocks and has a huge sense of self importance that shoots smaller aliens with rocket launchers/Machine guns."

>> No.10879385

>>10873898
>The Imperium is losing its formation of archaic designed vehicles. Next thing you know, the Land Raider Mk VIII B will look like a VW Bug with tracks.

So they're becoming less bland, boring and stupid? How, exactly, is this a bad thing?

>> No.10879440

They are working towards a more mainstream aesthetic. Probably so they can maybe even work a movie deal or something absurd.

They are greedy. And so they let their desire for cash drive the aesthetic design and all their choices. So... naturally they are going to move towards a more accessible design to get more people into the franchise.

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>>10879180
You know why that's funny? Because same persons were involved with both.

>> No.10879502

>>10879489
Further proving that you can make shitty works and good works.

>> No.10879547

>>10879502
Also that my taste is shit and not the universal measure. I can only hope 40k stays on it's own path. The world is filled with alternative sci-fi miniature games. Don't like the medieval aesthetics of 40k? DON'T FUCKING PLAY IT ANYMORE THEN

>> No.10879794

>>10879440
>They are greedy.
Corporate bloat != greed. Stop talking out your ass because you can't afford some more Fire Warriors on your allowance.

>> No.10879820

>>10879794

You obviously have no understanding of corporate culture.

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>>10879502
>Implying Judge Dredd doesn't look like shit.

>> No.10879864

>>10879547
>sci-fi

40k is sci-fa, not sci-fi

>> No.10879867

>>10879854
>implying Space Marines do not also look like shit

>> No.10879877

40k has long forgotten it's a parody.

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>>10879820
Oh, you're right. I just don't know how corporations work and it's definitely not because the suits are all an Old Boys' Club that put a strain on finances. It must be so, because if it wasn't you wouldn't have any reason to villify GW for daring to make money.

>> No.10879950

>>10879440
>making money and trying to pay their employees while making said money is bad, everyone! Everything should be free!

I smell a Communist.

>> No.10879953

>>10873443
>Every year GW is slowly making the Imperium of Man's overall design sleeker, smoother, more advanced, less cartoony and more reasonable.

Am I missing something here?

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obligatory

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>>10879953
The distinctive point of 40k is that it's medieval barbarians in spaaaceeee.

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[sarcasm]Old School is Definitely Better![/sarcasm]

>> No.10879999

>>10879984
>WOLFWOLF WOLFING WOLF WOLFERS GONNA WOLF

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>>10879950

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>>10879995
I happen to think so.

>> No.10880091

>>10873523

YOUR PAULDRONS ARE HUGE, IT MEANS etc etc

>> No.10880132

>>10880029
:D I have to save that picture.

>> No.10880142

>>10879984
I thought that was the Space Wolves thing.

>> No.10880153
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PREPARE YOUR ANUS

>> No.10880166

>>10879897
>>10879950


There are two fundamental business models in my opinion.

One is profit centric, that is all the aspects of the business are scrutinized through the lens of how to make more money. Now obviously the point of any corporation or business is to be financially successful. Not just practically speaking because it keeps things running, but also to make a profit and grow your business I understand that.

The other model is customer-centric. That is, viewing all aspects of the business through the lens of how to keep, sustain, and build relationships with customers. It's about building long-term and loyal relationships, return customers if you will. This way you ensure reliability and longevity by having a mutually beneficial relationship.

Now each of these models can be taken to unhealthy extremes. Accountants shouldn't run businesses and neither should people who give things away for free. You can't nitpick about cost all the time, because eventually it just becomes counterproductive and you lose money. And you can't sell the farm just because Bill the loyal customer can't afford to pay what something is worth.

Both of these methodologies are also subject to the posturing inherent in marketing campaigns designed to change how a business is perceived in the public eye.

I am saying that GW subscribes to the profit-centric model. They are not interested in building long-term relationships, only in making money off their figures. And they can do that by cutting costs, quality, and ignoring customer service issues.

Add in a management culture that is driven by increasing quarterly numbers, growing profit margins, padding paychecks, and immediate gratification... and you have greed.

It's not a critique on capitalism. It's a critique on attitudes being perpetuated by short-sighted businessmen who think the cheap way is the ONLY right way, and who are taking things to extremes.

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>>10880029

Cool story bro

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>>10880153

Finally.....

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>>10880153

>> No.10880217

>>10873443

>Every year GW is slowly making the Imperium of Man's overall design sleeker, smoother, more advanced, less cartoony and more reasonable.

I have no problem with this. It makes everything more believable, rather than the exaggerated proportions from the 28mm "hero" scale. And I like 40k best when it's played straight, so doing it as realistic as possible is fine with me. It's still fucking absurd, and that will never change.

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>>10880142
The medieval thing? No, it's quite prevalent in 40k. Do you even play the game?

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>>10880217
Why don't you rather play another game, than drag this one down to mediocrity?

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>>10880142

It's EVERYWHERE

>> No.10880264

>>10880221
I was referring to the barbarian part.

>> No.10880266

>>10880221
WH40K doesn't have medieval themes. It has "medieval" themes.

Therese's diference between medieval and "medieval".

>> No.10880267

>>10880190
What story?

>> No.10880274

>>10873442

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>> No.10880286

>>10880264
>Implying barbarian isn't an attitude.

>> No.10880290

>>10880190

Dear lord look at his face!

>> No.10880299

>>10880190

Not sure you even understand what you're saying, or maybe you meant to quote this guy :>>10880166

>> No.10880322

>>10874195
His shoulders are fucking wide. The chest plate needs to be much more narrow. The Brothers of the Snake cover had that right, but then it had FUCKHUEG pauldrons.

>> No.10880324

>>10880290

inb4 chin

>> No.10880333
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>>10880266
"Kill" yourself.

By which I mean, really kill yourself, you tit.

>> No.10880339

>>10880166

The motivation of all corporations is (or should be) profit-centric. Now, there's a fundamental difference between short-term profit and long-term profit. Too many corporations focus on the former to the exclusion of the latter. Selling higher priced minis to reap short-term profit and alienating your customer base is counterproductive on the long.

What GW's failing at isn't caring about their customers. It's convincing your customers you care about them while maintaining the bottom line.

>> No.10880359

>>10880290
When all of your days are spent fighting, you're bound to get your face mashed up and broken time and time again.

>> No.10880362

Anybody have that pic of the inquisitor in the foreground before a burning pile of heretic skulls the size of a pyramid?

This thread could really use it.
>"medieval"
Oh, lord.

>> No.10880387
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>>10873443
>It makes everything more believable, rather than the exaggerated proportions...

Indeed. The more reasonable art design is a good thing. Pictures like
<<<this
would have made me think GW was a joke. Talk about disproportionate, 'those space chickens with their bumpy shield wings are way too big to fit in that brick comfortably'.

By the way, why is OP worried that we're moving away from poorly drawn propaganda that at one point in time was meant to be taken seriously, but in todays graphic design, can't.

>> No.10880399

>>10873647
I'm friends with the girl who painted that pic.
(Yeah, a 40K pic was painted by a GURL!)

She's friggin awesome. Batshit crazy, but still awesome.

>> No.10880445
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Indeed. The more reasonable art design is a good thing. Pictures like
<<<this
would have made me think GW was a joke. Talk about disproportionate, 'those space chickens with their bumpy shield wings are way too big to fit in that brick comfortably'.

By the way, why is OP worried that we're moving away from poorly drawn propaganda that at one point in time was meant to be taken seriously, but in todays graphic design, can't.

>> No.10880461

>>10880339

There's a difference between caring about customers as a means to an end, profit, and genuinely caring about your customers.

You hit the nail on the head when you explained short term versus long term profit, but you fail to see the value inherent in a customer-focused business model, or that it is plausible.

Like I said, profit-centric as you described it is valid, successful, and the way to go in many cases.

But customer centric is also completely valid in its own right, it's just a different way of doing things. Look at companies like Eddie Bauer, Red Wing Shoes, and the like. These are companies that have extremely liberal return policies, almost open door in some cases. But it works. Red Wing Shoes has been in business for over a century and they don't advertise. Because their customers do. Does this mean they don't care about money? No. It's speaking to priorities. Priority number one for companies like that is customers.

So no, there is not one-size-fits-all motivation. Indeed there shouldn't be. Diversity and competition is what makes capitalism thrive. You need people willing to be idealistic, just as you need people to be realistic. It's not one or the other. It's both.

But fundamentally, as you described, it's a desire for larger short-term profits that undercut both customer bases and long term sales that I take issue with. That's a damn foolish way to run a business and I see it everywhere these days.

>> No.10880490
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10880490

>>10880029
Slowpoking here, but I had to make this

>> No.10880502

>>10873999

What kind of IG is that? They look kinda scary.

>> No.10880518

>>10880259
Why does he have a scope on his Plasma Pistol? And why is that blast yellow-ish instead of blue-ish?

>> No.10880551
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10880551

>>10880490
I chortled

>> No.10880562

>>10880502
Vostroyan

>> No.10880571

>>10880502
Vostroyans, nigga. Space russians up in this!

>> No.10880584

>>10880571
I thought Valhallans were the space russians...

>> No.10880600

>>10880518
Yellowish is what reasonably hot plasma looks like. Blue plasma is insanely hot.

>> No.10880602

>>10880502
Vostroyan

>> No.10880611

>>10880584
Valhallans are Soviets, Vostroyans are Czarists.

>> No.10880615
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10880615

>>10880502
Vostroyan
also, posting this for posterity

>> No.10880616

>>10880571

Oh wow, being a sovietfag myself, gonna search for their fluff. Thank you for answer, sir.

>> No.10880620

Actually they're getting bigger. You just can't see it because there's no guardsman standing next to him.

>> No.10880621

>>10880584
They are as well, but I'm pretty sure that's a Vostroyan.

>> No.10880623

>>10880584
Its like the difference between WW1 era and WW2 era russians.

>> No.10880627
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10880627

>>10880584
I thought Valhallans were space finns...

>> No.10880629

>>10880611

>> No.10880632

>>10880600
I see.
PURGE!*


*with reasonable amounts of force

>> No.10880638

>>10880611
Yeah, it's sorta like the Armageddon Steel Legion vs. the Death Korps of Krieg, except with Russia instead of Germany.

>> No.10880664

>>10880621
Quite aware of that, I was the first to say he was Vostroyan.

>> No.10880691

>>10880664
That was meant more for the other anon, but yeah.

>> No.10880748
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>>10880584
The Russians wore a very distinctive, pointy winter cap in ww 2. Do any of the Valhallan minis have one? I'd like to make an unit of them.

>> No.10880762

>>10880691
Ah, well I did make the mistake of not realizing that Vostroyans do infact look Russian soon enough to stop myself from questioning the anon who posted before me, when infact he was right.

>> No.10880811

Can I has more Vostroyan artwork?

>> No.10880815
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>>10880748
I don't believe so, but here are a few of the hats they do have

>> No.10880823
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10880823

>>10880748
Nope, none of them have that cap.

>> No.10880830

>>10880748
I don't think I've seen them with those particular hats, but I've seen them with that distinctive tall fur hat before, as well as a few other soldiers' cap designs.

>> No.10880844

>>10880748
none have the budenovka

they only have furhats, pilotkas and helmets
peaked cap for the lieutenant...

>> No.10880846
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10880846

>>10880811

>> No.10880847

I'm pretty cool with that. 40k could seriously stand to have an updated look. It's getting almost as bad as looking at 1960s Startrek.

>> No.10880872
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10880872

I like how this thread derailed
Go Guard!

>> No.10880875
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>> No.10880886

>>10873534
huge armor is huge

>> No.10880950
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10880950

>>10880664
>>10880748
>>10880762
>>10880815
>>10880844

Vostroyans are Cossacks, damnit. Czarist Cossaks under the Russian rule, yes, but still Cossaks.

>> No.10880958

people bitching about the armor being huge is kinda dumb. space marines are 9 foot gorillas that weigh a thousand points, of course their armor is going to be huge. and their heads look tiny because the rest of the armor is just so big. altho, some of the pauldrons are a tad excessive

>> No.10880971
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10880971

This thread needs more Vostroyan!

>> No.10880987
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>> No.10881002

OP would it help it we just called you a faggot and then bumped your thread post count up to 50? is this what you desire?

>> No.10881003

A-a-and that was all that I can find. I'm pretty bad at googling, yeah.

>> No.10881004

>>10880950
Some Cossacks WERE Russian, though.

>> No.10881011
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10881011

Speaking of Vostroyans...

>> No.10881058

>>10881004

Cossaks are from Ukraine, the only Cossaks tollerated in Russia and weren't entirely second class citizens were the Czars personal body guard regiments.

>> No.10881118
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10881118

>>10881011
Voystroyan you say?!

>> No.10881125

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>> No.10881218
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>>10873443

Broad marine is broad.

>> No.10881280

>>10880872

Got any more pics of this table anon? Hawt damn.

>> No.10881729

>>10881058
Ukraine is part of Russia.
Its like Texas is part of America.

>> No.10881742

>>10881218
Everyone seems to forget that that armor is pretty thick. Doubly so where pauldrons are concerned, which throws off your guess of where his shoulder is

>> No.10881939

>>10881058
Are you aware that there were cossacks all over Russian Empire?

>> No.10881966

>>10881058
Most of the Cossack training schools were in the Ukraine, yes, but some of them were actually in southern Russia proper.

>> No.10881971

>>10881742
If the armor is thick then his shoulders are even wider in relation to the rest of his body. The torso armor needs to be narrow, much like a medieval breastplate. Instead we get something more akin to a pear.

>> No.10881990
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10881990

How come this hasn't been posted yet?

>> No.10882015

Looking at the Dark in all the dark heresy stuff makes me belief its all fine.

Video games with 40k always get the style way off

>> No.10882019

>>10881729

Well, Ukraine WAS part of the Soviet Union, and now Ukraine and Russia are two different countries.

>> No.10882021

>>10881990
because marine armor isn't paper thin

>> No.10882029

>>10881990
Because you're a faggot

>> No.10882159

>>10873443
Not really.

Hopefully this means the IG will have tanks that don't look like great war era designs with 50's turrets mounted on them.

Also less stupid fucking cathedral ships.

>> No.10882399

>>10881280
Sorry, I was reading another thread for... 3 hours
Here's the site for that table, this guys got a lot of sweet shit.
http://www.ironhands.com/necro.htm

>> No.10883400

>>10882021
That's not exactly paper thin and he does explain how the armor can be a lot thinner. It's not meant to be a canon explanation of Warhammer 40k and more his take on a slightly more real Warhammer 40k.

>> No.10883600
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10883600

I, for one, vote for the funky marines.

>> No.10883684

>>10883400
He's still a dumbshit with furry cum and shit for brains.

>> No.10884142

No, I think its because of the transition from one medium to the next. Drawing Marines is not the same as making 3D models for Dawn of War.

They have different proportions, thats all. They also look more detailed.

>> No.10884283

>>10881990
Becasue that tries to make sense. It has no place in 40k.

>> No.10885581
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>>10884142
Nah, bro. You could use the 80 miniature look in the latest vidya too.

It's got more to do with that Blizzard popularized the original look of hueg pauldrons and comic heroic body proportions. Now if GW'd still do what they did earlier, they'll get accused of plagiarism to the level of hurting sales. sp they've got to think up something else.

>> No.10885633

>>10885581
So much lies in that article.

>> No.10886026
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10886026

>>10873986

Sounds like basic Spess Mahreen battle.

Anyways, Adrian Smith is the only true artist.

Don't you agree?

>> No.10886064
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>>10879978

>FUUUUUUUCK YOUUU!

>> No.10886184
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10886184

40k is ridiculous and mostly incomprehensible... that's why it's awesome, stop trying to make it realistic as you will inevitably fail and suck the fun out of it.

>> No.10886305
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10886305

>>10881218
sorry to dissapoint

>> No.10886440

>>10886305
you failed, his shoulders would have to be wider to fit the armor, unless you're implying that the armpits and inner arm have paper thin armoring

>> No.10886445

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>> No.10888083
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10888083

>>10886440
Yes, they in fact have only a thin layer of elastic armor in the armpit. It withstands vacuum, maybe slow shrapnell and that's it. That's how a needle rifle can penetrate a power armor.

>> No.10888146

>>10880950
Except they wear RED coats
like the english and the danes

>> No.10888158
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10888158

>>10888146
to me they look like Napoleonic Old Guard

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10888528

>>10881218
>>10886305
Breaking news: Big shoulder pads make your shoulders look bigger.

>> No.10888553

>>10888528
That pic makes me want to watch the Fifth Element again.

>> No.10888559

>>10888528
lol @ the center.

Life vest.

>> No.10888587

>>10888559
Seriously. The left and the right look like some kick-ass batshit crazy cyberpunk shit, but the middle is just a life preserver and floppy bell bottoms.

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