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yes. your point?

>>10647247
Only if Karen Traviss is the author.

Matt Ward says otherwise

Nope

Whats a Mandalorian? Is that like a bunch of Boba Fetts or something? He was kind of a fuckup you know.

>>10647307
>>10647311
TRAVISS Vs. WARD

HEAVEN OR HELL

LET'S ROCK

Fanfic Wank-Off!

>>10647318
Where are these colored pics from the Blood Angels codex coming from?

>>10647328
I Lol'd

>>10647319
Imagine this, Boba Fett's armor was incomplete and he was a roguish character. Give him the full armor, better equipment, and the discipline to fit into an army of similarly equipped and better trained bastards, and that is the Mandalorians. An army of militarized and at one time knighted Boba Fetts.

They're those people with armour that deflects light sabre rounds or something right? I don't know my Star Wars fluff well but I know Boba Fett had a suit of their armour.

Boba Fett was cool and has a big cult following but I don't think he could beat up a two hearted acid spitting silverback gorilla wearing a tank.

So I assume Mandalorians can't either.

>>10647343

Someone who knows their shit

>>10647311

Jaster Mereel willingly left Concord Dawn to follow in the footsteps of his spiritual liege, Marneus Calgar.

>>10647378
I had the weird recollection that there was some unit in 40k that just SCREAMED Bounty Hunter/Mandalorian to me... now I cannot remember.

In b4 "I'm going to pretend that the laser weapons in the setting I prefer are more powerful."

Anything > Space Marines

As long as you shoot beyond two feet of course.

>>10647369

Yeah but half a fuckup is still a fuckup. Hey those clone guys on the other star wars shows are like Boba Fett right?

>>10647383
GODDAMMIT GW WHY WASN'T THAT THE COVER WHY

>>10647457
What laser weapons?

SW guns are plasma based, Roughly as good as a hellgun or hotshot lasgun.

>>10647513
Now that I think of it closer to an old hellgun.

Not the new hotshot.

Honestly I don't see what's so bad about Traviss, sure the characters are a bit cliche and not quite flawed enough but they are still better than the average jedi.

Because Boba and Jango Fett were expert bounty hunters solely on the basis of luck.

Durr mandalorians are shit, Traviss is a fuckwit

SPESSMEHREEENSSSS

>>10647653
Wat?

Does Boba Fet have a missile? The other Boba Fett had a missile.

SW has far superior tech to the Imperiums; that is, they have tech that is equally destructive, but far more reliable, smaller, and more efficient. Plus - lightsabers. Kicking the living FUCK out of Power Weapons since the age of Darth Bane.

Oh, and the Jedi don't suffer perils of the warp.

>>10647742
I would guess a power field would work just as well as another saber blade.

>>10647742
Can starwars stop time? or use telleporters?

not at fuckin all, they have this

Also. Can Starwars deal with dominantly projectile based weapons. All their tech is based on fighting enemies who use pre-dominantly laser and plasma tech. OH SHIT THE ENEMY IS USING GAUSS CANNONS TO ATTACK OUR SHIP WHAT DO WE DO?! SW shields are meant to deal with lasers and such, not weapons like gauss cannons and the like. Suddenly... Mass effect vs Star wars. inb4lolololol my universe is better than yours.

>>10647836

In 40k, planets communicate by unreliable warp-travel and smearing animals on walls.

Enough said.

SPACE MARINES > shitalorians

>>10647924
No they deal quite well with projectiles.

they do have particle shields for solid objects.

Hell they have shields that can hold gasses and allow solids through, and some of them are speed relevant.

Space Marines < Pretty much anything

Aren't the Mandalorians extinct? Doesn't that seem to indicate that they're garbage?

Mandalorians are more interesting than Space Marines. Who gives a fuck about power levels?

>my face when people are reasoning with physics in the Warham or the Starwar universum

>>10648102
Not really they dissolve every now and then, sometimes for several hundred years but they always come back.

>>10648102
Mandalorians are not a single race

>>10647513
>>10647524
I dunno, Lasguns are described as being able to blow the arm off of an unarmoured target.

And the weapons only get more powerful from there.

>>10648892

The real problem I see is heavy bolters. Most Star Wars armor is hardened against projectiles, but we're talking normal infantry weapon projectiles. Not mini-rockets.

>>10648964
Furthermore lightsabers aren't the only weapons that are good at cutting through stuff, there's power/phase weapons which can cleave through tanks and stuff.

Also I'd like to see a Jedi block a melta.

>>10649003
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpcpdEB_KOQ

>>10648964
It's rather debatable, high quality commando armour is capable of stopping shattergun rounds (IE Railguns) however that armour is insanely expensive (Costs more than a tie fighter) and the mass produced armour is likely considerably weaker to maintain low cost.

Furthermore since enemies seem to be using blasters as the weapon of choice, it seems obvious that they'd skimp on kenetic protection for greater energy protection.

>>10649003

In tijuana you can pay to see that for 2$

>>10649097
that's not a melta

>>10649097
Yeah he blocked a shot from a grenade launcher, not a melta, which are heat weapons capable of cutting through TANKS.

>>10647383

>>10648964

Same armor was pierced by stone-tipped arrows.

>>10649171

How does he even move his fucking arms?

Futhermore certain marines would be able to easily cut through mandos/jedi.

Librarians, Grey Knights, Reasonable Marines, ect.

He dosent.....

>>10647787
to add to this, http://s661.photobucket.com/albums/uu334/paulsongames/Star%20Wars%2040k/

>>10647428
the helmets in question are part of the normal CSM sets I think, if not, then the 1k sons

>>10649213
Power armor.

The armor is powered.

It moves with him.

>>10647247
Perhaps, but also
Klingons > Mandalorians

Mandorians cannot be superior than Space Marines.

They're from Star Wars.

The only good thing that ever came out of Star Wars were the Death Star and Darth Vader.

>>10647742

Some power weapons ARE lightsabers. In the first Eisenhorn book, his sword was basically a lightsaber. Then it got destroyed and was never mentioned again. In any fluff. Ever.

But it's still canon.

>>10649294

Plastic Vader was pretty fucking kewl tho. Emo Vader not so much.

>>10649294
Fuck you, Jolee Bindo deserves a mention!

Mandalorians have the uncanny ability to pierce through the Jedi Plotanium/Mary-Sue armor.

And expose them, for what they truly are: Faggots in bathrobes, swinging lightsticks.

Fuck Bobba Fett and his pansy ass jetpack/pistol mandalorians.
REAL Mandalorians have huge guns/robot mounts and that means they have huge guts.

>>10649341
When written by Karen Traviss, yeah.

Up against Matt Ward, however and they'll soon be recognizing Marneus Calgar as their Spiritual Liege.

>>10649341

Mandalorians are like the mongols of the star wars galaxy.

Why the hell did that idiotic bitch try to make them appear as the ideal culture?

Damn you Karen Traviss! turning a whole kickass culture into a mary sue.

>>10649372

The basilisk wardroid: Just seeing one hurts like hell.

>this thread

>>10649404
onlygoodmandalorian.jpg

>>10647247
Haven't you heard OP?
Now Mandalorians are peacefull hippy faggots.

Need I remind you all that Force Storm > Mandalorians.

>>10649434

*puts fingers in ears*

NOT CANON LALALALALALALALA

>>10649393
Is Karen Travis behind 3d starwars series?

>>10649462

If it contains mandalorians and its incredibly retarded karen traviss is definitely in it.

>>10649489
>>10649462
I thought she left due to these new peaceful mandalorians not being enough like her mary sues.

>>10648102
>>Aren't the Jedi extinct? Doesn't that seem to indicate that they're garbage?

>>10649505

How can Mandalorians be mary sues? They're like the Orkz of Star Wars.

At worst, they have the "rule of cool".

>>10649505

Peaceful mandalorians?

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

... allright, I lost it for a moment. Please elaborate on this.... mandalorian kind of things.

>>10649462
>*puts fingers in ears*
*plops his ballz on your head*
:3

>>10649535

Star wars cgi saturday morning series.

Mandalorians turned peaceful and rejected their old ways and banished those, who didn't conform.

>>10649555

"Now we are good lol! we love jedi and stuff. War is gay"

Like that? mother of god...

>>10649578

à la warcraft orcs.

>>10649585

....why? I mean, mandalorians where a whole culture of blood knights, fighting for the sake of fighting and screwing people over.

Why is that characterization not good enough? I mean, from a writing point of view, they would work as a wildcard, being able to be on the protagonists or the antagonists' side, and switching sides at a moment's notice.

Keeping them true neutral is much more interesting than turning them nuetral good. And if they are lawful good I swear I will go and kill the producer with my bear hands.

>>10649629

You know, the show is made for kids. I'm sure the "humane mandalorians" are more appealing to children than the "neckbeard-friendly variety".

>>10649672

Modern tv is turning kids into pussies. In the 90s asshole mandalorias would have been aired.

>>10649434

Clone Wars is a farce.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udJMUyD8faA

This is the only acceptable interpretation of Mandalorians. Trust the voice of Bishop from Aliens.

>>10649712

>Asshole Mandalorians

This came into mind

>>10649629
Holy shit are you a werebear?

>>10649816

" I am here to kick ass and drink blue milk. And I am all out of blue milk"

>>10649858

No dude. I have bears in the place of hands.

>>10649434

A single faction. Alpha02 overthrows them later

What actually happened in that episode was they introduced the Death Watch, who were "real" Mandalorians. IIRC one of em also kicked Kenobi's ass.

>>10649955
it was more of a draw really

>>10649955
And even the true Mandoe agreed with the deathwatch that day.

>>10649955
there was so much rage over that guys light saber on /co/

>>10649955
>>10650124
is that a black light saber?

I say only this: Ke nu'jurkadir sha Mando'ade.

Too bad Geroge "fuck the fans" Lucas puked, shat and pissed all over Karen Traviss' cool mando'ade.

I wish she had gotten to finish the Republic Commando/Imperial 501 series. A love teh series but it feels bad that we will never get to know if Sev survived and what happens to Darman and his son.


FUUUUUUUCK YOU George Lucas!

>>10650161
Look at the shape.

It was gonna be a Beskar/cortosis blade
but :Luckas wanted his sheshull lightsabers to be left unchallenged by non-saber blades in film/tv.

>>10650167
I liked the series, she left the characters too perfect but they were still fun.

>>10649955
>faggy bobba fett armour.

>>10650167
Yeah she did an awesome job with the mando'ade. Giving them a culture and a history in a way I haven't seem any other writer do before or since.

My copy of Triple Zero is about to fall to pieces because i have read it far too many times for my to count.

>>10650374
That was my favorite of them too.

Don't gush too much though this crowd isn't her biggest fanbase.

>>10650553
Well screw them. It's their loss.

>>10650553
Nah, /tg/ is mostly of the opinion that the Republic Commando books were boss.

What they unequivocally hate is her ham-fisted Mandalorian insertion into the NJO books and the equal rendering of Jedi into useless blathering idiots.

>>10650599
It's better to acknowledge her failings along with her good stuff.

>>10650374
I really like how she wrote the Null ARCs. I'm amazed how she made them superior to the Alphas and Commandos but still managed to avoid any Marty-Stu tendencies.

>>10650661
According to me Star Wars would be awesome if it wasn't for all the "HURR DURR I'M A JEDI" fuckwit characters.

The best Eras in Star Wars are from Clone War to early Rebellion. The time when Jedi's were getting their collective butts kicked or were almost nonexistent.

>>10650753
Jedi are overused, yes and poorly implemented by bad authors.

I could definitely go for some Jedi whose rigid adherence to their order's teaching cause problems with regards to military operations and negotiations. Good-intentioned idiots, more or less, but the Jedi are always supposed open to learning and judging things on their own merit.

What annoys me about Traviss' interpretation is that she goes well above and beyond what is necessary to establish the Jedi as blathering, gape-drooling knuckle-dragging fuckwits who can barely dress themselves in the morning, have never developed proper cognitive thought, and are in capable of coming up with a solution to a problem without sucking off a Mandalorian (or clone). This completely ignores half of the Jedi discipline - the introspective, thinking side that is downplayed in favor of the flashy KILL SHIT WITH LASER SWORDS side.

>>10650161
Aka "Darksaber"

It was going to be a vibroblade, but George Lucas and his infinite wisdom stepped in. He said "LIGHTSABERS ARE THE BESTEST WEAPONS! NO OTHER WEAPONS CAN STAND UP TO THEMS!!!! LOLZ!!! VIBROBLADES???!!! WTF? NOT IN MY STAR WARZ!!! LOLZ!!! MAKE IT A LIGHTSABER, OR YOU'RE ALL FIRED!!!!"

>>10650753
I like KOTOR era, Jedi everywhere and they're not Mary Sues. They're getting fucked over by fucking Republic Troopers tackling them, kicking them in the face, and being bad asses.

>>10650915
That's TOR 300 years after KOTOR.

>>10647247
So? Everything's better than Spehs Mahreenz. They're the Wesley Crushers of the 40k universe, crammed down the collective throats of it's fan-base.

Also who drew this?

It looks like fan-art but I can't read the sig.

>>10651565
The artist is Korris on the Star Wars Artist Guild

That's the old version of the pic. Heres the new one
http://swagonline.net/node/5372