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[ERROR] No.10259036 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

And I don't mean that in some kind of solely fantasy setting way either. The life of a cowboy had to be ROMANTICIZED to be full of adventure and even then it was typically adventure of rape, racism and drugs. At least the tales of ninjas ACTUALLY HAPPENED and are well recorded unlike a bunch of made up shit that Texans use to cling to some kind of faux "heritage."

>> No.10259061

Yeah, but cowboys have guns, they still win.

>> No.10259074

>>10259036


oh boy here it comes.

>> No.10259086

>>10259061
yeah, guns that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if they were surprised.

>> No.10259089

>>10259036
>Implying ninjas weren't just a bunch of two bit thieves, selling their services for the highest bidder, which usually amounted to chicken scratch.

>> No.10259090

>the tales of ninjas ACTUALLY HAPPENED
9/10 would rage again

>> No.10259097

Since when has /tg/ idolized cowboys over ninjas anyway? Why is that ninja wearing almost nothing and carrying a weapon too big to be easily concealed like any competent assassin/infiltrator would? Why are you such a bad troll?

>> No.10259098

>>10259036

>At least the tales of ninjas ACTUALLY HAPPENED and are well recorded unlike a bunch of made up shit that Texans use to cling to some kind of faux "heritage."

Yes, because those records are so reliable.

>> No.10259106

Sorry to burst your weeaboo bubble, but Naruto never actually happened.

>> No.10259111

>>10259061
Also pants.

>> No.10259113

>Implying John Wayne is not our spiritual liege

>> No.10259121

LOOK SIR, TROLLS.

>> No.10259122

>>10259061

But ninjas have tits, at least the OP ninjas.

>> No.10259124

OP is faggot, "cowboys" weren't romanticized at all. The west was a harsh place, not just the towns like tombstone. THE REAL WEST was probably one of the most dangerous places in the world in any point in history.

>> No.10259125

The one on the left is a Brazilian pornstar that does anal while dressed like a ninja.

She is not a real ninja.

>> No.10259133

Look, if there's tales of the ninja, they're BAD NINJA. If a ninja is good at their job, you'd never hear a word about them. You know what you should be thinking at the end of a conversation with a good ninja? "That was a fucking awesome viking!" is what!

>> No.10259140

>>10259106
OP is right though, Naruto is based on real ordeals/ninja rules and stuff. Shit like deadwood is all pandering shit.

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>> No.10259169

>>10259124
Hi, I'm Australia.

>> No.10259174

What?

>> No.10259175

Troll in t he Dungeon!

>> No.10259182

>>10259169
Oh hey, look at me, I'm a faggot country full of prisoners who couldn't take on a group of savages.

>> No.10259184

Ain't no fighter without a weapon worth a shit.
And there ain't no weapon worth a shit ain't got "Colt" on the barrel.

>> No.10259202

>>10259169
This thread is now about Bush Rangers

>> No.10259207

>>10259124
Actually, the West wasn't all that dangerous. People from the West just talked a lot of shit to make their towns look cool.

>> No.10259218

Oh this is going to be a good thread.

>> No.10259220

>>10259184
>And there ain't no weapon worth a shit ain't got "Colt" on the barrel.

>> No.10259234

>>10259125
Go on.

>> No.10259247

Pirates win.

>> No.10259253

>>10259125

Links to this porn or her name plox?

>> No.10259264

Interesting fact: Most authentic cowboys were black. The 'wild west' era happened right after the end of the American civil war. The recently freed slaves couldn't stay where they were, and the Northern states kept turning them away, so they took the government's offer and moved west to settle the frontier. White cowboys were few and far between.

Now they had their share of adventure. Brutalizing the Native American populace and being ambushed in return, constant threats from predators and less-scrupulous settlers, and an apathetic government that offered them no protection. All very real and far from hum-drum. Not the thrill-a-minute picture that movies and tawdry dime-store novels have painted for gullible masses, but then neither is the super-ninja-magic-assassin myth (essentially, they were loosely organized thief and assassin guilds who sold their services to the highest bidder), or the noble-invincible-incorruptible-samurai myth (samurai, just like western Knights, were mostly just thugs with authority, brutalizing peasants and hiding behind their title to avoid reprisal).

>> No.10259273

>The life of a cowboy had to be ROMANTICIZED to be full of adventure and even then it was typically adventure of rape, racism and drugs.

>rape, racism and drugs

>/tg/

>> No.10259286

>>10259253
Her name is Ninja.

>> No.10259295

>>10259113
Ah, St. Wayne, patron saint of grit. Dude had some pretty sweet chip powers.

My posse had a templar who gained his patronage. Pretty awesome, because he was a confederate who had to start giving the US its due, else St. Wayne would deny him his favour.

...we are talking about how awesome Deadlands is, right?

>> No.10259315

>>10259264
>Brutalizing the Native American populace and being ambushed in return, constant threats from predators and less-scrupulous settlers, and an apathetic government that offered them no protection.

I'd play it.

>> No.10259322

Ninjas are equally as romanticized as cowboys.

The eara that Cowboys focus on is about 20 years of US history.
Where as Ninja's of various forms are heavily reinvented and romanticized to remain appealing.

>> No.10259337

>>10259253
http://www.monicastube.com/movies/56/566303/ninjadofunkmissaoanal/

>> No.10259341

>>10259264
Most authentic cowboys where the Vaqueros, from Mexico & South America. Those boys knew how to rope, drive, and sell cattle like no one else.

>>10259036
I resent this, Texans don't have some type of "faux" heritage. As for the Cowboy, of course it's been romanticized, so has the ninja.

>> No.10259344

>>10259253
try ''ninja do funk'' at /rs/

>> No.10259411

>>10259337
And here's the one with all the parts.
http://www.empflix.com/view.php?id=20183

>> No.10259475

>>10259247
Oh yeah, next up you'll say robots, jackass.

>> No.10259491

>>10259207
>West not dangerous
>not dangerous
>clearly hasn't seen OK Corral

>> No.10259509

What about pirateninjacowboyzombierobots?

>> No.10259518

/k/ here, I swear to god if this ends up with a zombie thread on our fucking board...

>> No.10259564

Texans don't have a faux heritage. They have a heritage of hard work and decency... and a lifestyle of bigotry, greed, and decadence.

>> No.10259567

>>10259491
>implying that getting information from movies will give you anything remotely accurate

>> No.10259570

>>10259036
Ninjas?

You mean peasant uprisings crushed in fire and blood and romanticised into a robin hood of vagabondage.

Well I have a ACTUALLY HAPPENED tale of the vagabond king Half Cocked Jack the Coiner L'Emmerdeurer

>> No.10259578

>>10259036
Fuck OP. Cowboys were on the ranch working by the time they were 12. All the famous sharpshooters and gunmen come from the west because they had to be the best. Indian raids, raids on indians, cattle theft, robbery, that shit happened every day and you were on your own to stop it. None of this Sheriff shit where Joe Arpaio saves your ass from the Mexicans.

>> No.10259589

So, the statement here is that the myth of the ninja-- with its invisible arts, strange assortment of improbable edged weaponry, and dubious martial arts prowess; is more "realistic' than an era of US history, that took place in an era w/ newspapers and telegraphs, as well as mass transportation--. Hold on a minute.

Also, you might want to do a bit more research, the ninja, - the Koga, the iga, the Kuji-kiri, the famed poison fist of the eastern rim-- they weren't honorable heros,--they were casteless murderers, and thieves. Not only that, there are a grand number of paintings in the Japanese national archives entitled things like "Fuma and Lady" which depict ninja raping women.

Until the shogunate started using ninja semi-openly, they were considered below the average Yakuza member, at least the Yakuza paid taxes.

Read a goddamn book.

>> No.10259615

>>10259564
Which comes from the hard work of our forefathers & now illegal Mexicans. Hurray for undocumented workers!

>> No.10259651

So this thread went from troll OP to anonymous delivering ninja anal porn in... twenty posts?

Never change, /tg/. Never change.

>> No.10259678

>Not only that, there are a grand number of paintings in the Japanese national archives entitled things like "Fuma and Lady" which depict ninja raping women.

.... *ziiiip*

>> No.10259679

>>10259589

>> No.10259682

Let me tell you all about the cowboy. They're all fake except the cowboy from Arizona. California and Texas were like candyland compared to the real west. Geronimo, Pancho Villa, Mormons, those were very real, very present threats in the west.

>> No.10259695

>>10259589

What you're saying is akin to:

"I would prefer a story about a construction worker building a house to reading Batman, because at least the builder story is realistic!"

How 'real' ninjas are, and how real cowboys are, and how either lives up to the hype and legends is rather irrelevant. I prefer the thought of ninjas myself because of the effort required to have those skills. Do I think they are paragons of justice? Of course not. Who the fuck does?

In short, people will have their own favourite. And you trying to tell them, "No, you're wrong" is just stupid.

>> No.10259698

>>10259651

I was not going to read this thread...then I saw this post.

>> No.10259699

Is cowboy vs. ninja the new east elf vs. west elf troll?

>> No.10259701

>>10259682
No more than the dozen native groups in Texas, & the Mexicans south of Texas.

>> No.10259703

>>10259589
>>"Fuma and Lady"
Better than that Samurai and Page shit they usually have!

Gunslingers were pretty badass bunch, cowboys not so much. Also, whats with the stupidass looking woman thats supposed to be a ninja? Wouldn't ninja look more like I dunno... farmers, gardeners and servants?

>> No.10259727

>>10259701
Yeah, natives subdued before you kicked out the army. Texas couldn't deal with their own shit for a week without screaming for help.

>> No.10259755

Sage for unrelated shit

>> No.10259758

>>10259698

Every cloud has it's silver lining.

And every troll post on /tg/ has it's ninja anal porn delivery.

>> No.10259768

>>10259036

Dude texas is pretty much the shittiest state there is, and it is full of retards, there is no argument here so why even make a thread?

>> No.10259788

>>10259567
>the movie blew things out of proportion so the real thing wasnt bad at all

Allied propaganda depicted the Germans as devils and monsters, clearly out of propotion, so then that must mean everything is a horrible lie and the Nazis weren't THAT bad.

>> No.10259811

>>10259788

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>>10259811

>> No.10259885

>>10259491

>OK Corral

Body Count- Three.

Read up on Wikipedia about all those fabled "Wild West" gunfights- most of them started between drunk fucks in a bar over cheating at cards, at a range of nine feet.

>> No.10259927

>> No.10259956

>>10259927
that's like a face.

>> No.10259976

>>10259036

>> No.10260327

>>10259927
>>10259976

uh, no.

>> No.10260608

First off-- you're using Wikipedia as a reference, I could head on over there and with enough friends change "Ninja" to be synonymous with "ladle"-- You should dig a little harder for your scholarship.

Everything is romanticized, the cowboy in film and in story-- certainly. But in all fairness, the ninja?-- lets be honest, they populated a relatively short period of Japanese history-- and whereas we can say "only 3 people died at the OK corral" its very difficult to say who, what, or when a ninja killed anything.

Yes, the cowboy myth is overblown, hell-- a great deal of cowboys were black, or mexican as well-- but the cinema doesn't show this either.

But the ninja was a thief, with sup-par equipment, easily bested by any trained fighter of the time in direct combat. Ninjitsu as a martial art is a joke compared to any of the other martial arts of contemporary feudal japan.

At the very least, the cowboy as never attributed "magical powers" -- the very stock and trade of the ninja myth.

Look, the idea of a ninja is pretty badass-- but even your tour guide at Iga [last remaining 'ninja' town in Japan] will paint you a picture of the "actual' ninja, thats just as bleak as your "drunk cowboys shooting each other over hookers".

>> No.10260778

I see a thread containing Ninjas and no mention of Pirates?
Shame on you, /tg/...

>> No.10261195

>>10260608

Ninja are really just shit assassins.

The dress code comes from stage hands in kabuki theatre, who dress like that. therefore, where a character was assassinated, a guy dressed as a stage hand stepped out and 'killed' the character on stage.

THE MOAR YOU KNOW

>> No.10261296

>>10259036
Actually Cowboys were just glorified cow-herders. You herd together cows from various ranches and herd them north to the train station. You have to worry about cows doing dumb shit like getting lost/left behind/going wrong way/getting stolen/getting spooked etc etc and you do this for a few months while you drive them across hundreds of miles of wilderness.

Sure a lot of it was boring as hell, but it certainly qualifies as an adventure.

>> No.10261361

you are on a board about traditional games and fantasy trying to denounce shit for not being historically accurate

this is counter to the very concept and purpose of fantasy, which is to fantasize, for enjoyment

in short GO FUCK YOURSELF.

>> No.10261412

>The life of a cowboy had to be ROMANTICIZED to be full of adventure and even then it was typically adventure of rape, racism and drugs.

Sounds good to me.

>> No.10261660

>implying Pinkertons, Jesse James (and the coward Robert Ford), and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid were fiction
>implying Texas was the only part of the west


And, most rage inducing of all

>implying PCs are capable of playing anything other than alcoholic, arrogant hardbodies who do more than their share of raping, lynching, and drugs

>> No.10261784

all I'm hearing here is Japan didn't have good enough drugs

I think they just made up for it with more rape and racism

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