/sci/ - Science & Math

>>5929750

The electric face on the bottom left. The tadpole then grew into it.

>>5929746

The unifying force, the electric force, is responsible for the development of embryos. This was proven in the lab by Tufts University scientists. An accident in the lab led them to discover that an electric imprint of a face on the surface of the cells determined the growth of the embryo which "grew into" that imprint. By manipulating the field strength the scientists were able to change how it formed, and even caused fully functional eyes to grow out of the tadpole's ass.

They theorized that the electric field changed the pH in those areas, which caused the embryo's cell to create different proteins which then caused the specialization of the cells.

http://now.tufts.edu/news-releases/face-frog-time-lapse-video-reveals-never-seen

This electric force, the unifying force, is responsible for our development, our weather, the features on our planet and the motion of the planets. But goddam, you elitist "smart than you" pricks are too fucking educated to see it. You won't even give it a chance, or you'll quickly cross-check anything with Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy site and immediately dismiss it because you assume the educated masses have already done all the thinking there is to do on the subject, so why bother?

>>5929724

Wow! And you say it so matter-of-factly, as if all this is already solidified as the truth. You take on the persona of the Great Seer bringing the truth down from the mountain to the rabble below. I think perhaps this is why I hate you so much.

NONE of this has been shown to be true. If you're talking about the MATH then none of that can actually be based in the physical world. A massive theoretical circle-jerk of assholes peer-reviewing each others bullshit and giving it the stamp of approval so they can nominate each other for Nobel Prizes.

Seriously? The grand unifying energy only occurs at very high energy states? Then why can we see the vast similarities of its workings at the microscopic and macroscopic?

The double-helix nebula, for instance. "Hurr, a coincidence. Got any cites for that? We already discussed this."

It's the same horse shit. Things in nature appear as each other because they're following many of the same principles. Dismissing the similarities between the microscopic and macroscopic is shear lunacy, something fitting for someone that's gone so far down the wrong path they think they're above it all of a sudden and have lost sight of reality.

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>>5929425

Not at all. I've just never heard ANYONE deny the absolute fucking TRUTH that there's a unifying force of nature. That is, until I realized you're trolling, son.

>>5929388

Who the fuck seriously objects to the notion to a unifying force of nature? Does anybody seriously doubt the existence of such a possibility?

Goddam I thought you were retard but now it's been confirmed. I cite this and your last couple of posts as evidence of your retardation.

>>5929371

But... a unifying force of nature.... I mean holy shit.

Never mind.

>>5929330

I need evidence of a unifying force of nature? Are you fucking serious? As if there ISN'T one? Goddam you sure are retarded, son. Asperger's, maybe?

>>5929289

Would you fucking look at the sunspot. HOOOOLY SHIT whatever you've learned has turned you into a blinded fucking robot. I'm arguing with a wall here.

>>5929289

Why the fuck wouldn't they be? Goddam. There's a unifying force of nature, yet mainstream science puts everything in its separate little place and says "we'll put it all together later, if at all"

>>5929291

But they're not responding to any of the fucking points. Goddam, just look at the Valles Marineris.

>>5929248

Sure it does. We know that tornadoes on Earth provide powerful electric fields, and we can detect the presence of magnetic fields around sunspots. We see that the penumbra have a striking resemblance to Earthly tornadoes, both in their size and duration when scaled and the twisting appearance of cyclonic activity and a dark strip down the middle of the penumbra filaments associated with the core of a tornado. That the entire sunspot itself resembles a massive tornado is amazing, too.

I mean holy fucking shit, you can see the surrounding area leading toward the area of the sunspot, either working to disperse the charge over the photosphere or channeling something toward the sunspot.

"Hurrr! Science doesn't allow me to form an opinion, so I'll give you some lecture on the scientific method instead from atop my pedestal."

>>5929177

Except when they don't understand something they blame it on magnetism and plug whatever numbers they need to into the computer to make their simulations work. Science!

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So are you saying they don't look like giant tornadoes? It's just another coincidence? You say it's not a good idea but I think you're just being overly skeptical and dismissive. It also doesn't do anything to convince me since you're not exactly addressing what I said but falling back on other shit your teachers taught you how to do.

Anyway, this guy does a much better job at explaining what he thinks about sunspots:

http://www.holoscience.com/wp/sunspot-mysteries/

>>5929139

Okay, man. If Hawking was talking about this shit I'm sure you'd swallow ever last bit of it right up and ask for more. That it's coming from some random dude from /b/ you're being overly skeptical. It took you this long to even talk about it and only after much prompting from me. You're simply trying to play the role of the eternal skeptic because you feel that's the right thing to do.

The mountain range growing out of the western area and the valley to the east are very obviously connected to the Valles Marineris and very obviously wrap back around to the middle. To claim "we need more research" or "it not quantitative" is an excuse not to form an opinion.

>>5929113

The sunspots themselves are massive tornadoes, as well. The penumbra move parallel to the surface and move the charged particles into the vortex that is the sunspot, and downward into the core (or out of, fuck I don't know). I imagine if there is a large build up of energy in any particular area as it has become saturated and a massive flow of charged particles comes out of the core this may be what causes the solar flares that burst of of the sunspot. Just an idea. Sorry I don't have any math or scientific experiments to back it up. Can you maybe "see" this idea though?

>>5929113

Sounds like a great way of preserving the same old horse shit instead of having to change the status quo.

When you look at them closely the penumbra resemble tornadoes. You can even see twists in them. The filaments have dark cores, and are scalable to our tornadoes both in size and duration. The powerful magnetic fields are believed by EU proponents to be caused by the movement of charged particles into (or out of?) the sunspots themselves and down into the core of the Sun.

>>5929034

Well we can sit back and discuss this shit here until such time that they decide to test it. Observation is how it all starts. I'm not asking for a lecture on the scientific method. I'm asking for a fucking discussion on the stuff I'm posting.

Can you REASONABLY deny that the picture of the Valles I posted does NOT resemble a figure eight, or spiral? Can you give an explanation for this occurrence?

Goddam sciencefags are masters of double-speak.

>>5929015

How is this any different from claiming the Sun is a massive hydrogen cloud compressing the core under its own weight to produce heat and light in fusion, when everything we observe shows that the corona is the hottest part, the surface cooler and the interior (when viewed in sunspots) is cooler still? We came up with a long ass convoluted mess of explanations to explain this ass-backward notion.

>>5928998

Says you. Have you even looked at the pictures of the Valles I posted? To say you can't form an opinion, mull over the possibilities or consider why "this looks like that" is a fucking cop-out, laziness or some other problem that I think is endemic in the human population at large. Instantly discredited unless you have a much larger following, money, or other large backing. It's horse shit, and exclusion under the guise of keeping science sterile and clean.

>>5928983

Well quit getting your panties in a bunch about it, as if it's an insult to your beliefs. Fucking shit, sciencefags are almost as bad as Christfags. I'm not here to flip-turn science on its fucking head.

I'm here asking what the fuck you guys think about these claims, to have an actual discussion instead of have someone say "hurrr you're retarded lololol" and to give me reasons why the shit sounds fallacious.

I think they make a compelling argument and the pictures and similarities and features they point out seem to be just as good an argument as any other.

>>5928974

Yeah, I just made that image up.

As far as the radiation belt of Saturn goes I read it a long time ago in an article on Space.com. It isn't going to change your mind anyway so I'm not going to bother looking it up.

>>5928947

Oh, and the point I was making was just one small one, showing how it was similar to the magnetized globe in the lab.

There's still plenty of other things we don't know about the Sun, or the mainstream model fails to explain. The problem with the coronal heating is a big one, for instance. Why the solar wind accelerates, and as close to the surface as it actually does, the missing neutrinos, how the equator rotates faster than the rest of it, and sunspot even faster still.

>>5928955

Sorry I'm a fucking regular dude and don't give enough of a shit to major in this stuff.

You still haven't actually discussed what the fuck you think what I've said about the Valles, the features, why it makes the spiral pattern, whether any of the features are related or not, how it occurred. So what the fuck are you doing here? Trying to shame me into shutting up? Fuck you and your elitist attitude you prick.