/sci/ - Science & Math

>>4506167
there's no evidence that we lucked out as you say. - we are the only ones we can compare it too. that whole theory is kind of like pseudoscience that uses assumptions and probability applied to an existential question with evidence on both sides. there will never be evidence for this or reason to believe it. i believe its a pipe dream - kind of like saying reality has 11 dimensions.

bump.

okay. sorry I waited so long to respond. let's take METROID - biologically how would metroid, x parasites, ridley, planet ssr1, samus' suit, the civilazations within the game, the bio-suit's technology, etc. all work in the real world. how would we even begin to take a step in that direction technologically?

>>4503668
this isnt religious or creationist at all. you took one look at some posts and failed to accurately see what was said. the bible isnt discussed except to assert that it will not be discussed.

>>4503531
you didnt even read the thread did you....gtfo..just gtfo

>>4503498
Sorry I didnt finish the post. I will reread this with a clear head and am definitly going to change my mind on a few things. I do want to learn. some of this argueing has confirmed my opinions of some issues, and completely deconstructed others.

>>4503466
>>4503465
well what do you believe. im tired and have fought all I can fight. dump your thoughts in a final post and then im going to bed

>>4503454
haha yeah I did actually
>>4503455
and yeah on both sides, amIrightamIright?

It's funny how scientists today not only separate philosophy from science, as they should, but then go to far and attempt to devalue it permanently. I am entitled to my fucking opinion because no man can be unbiased to choose who thinks what. you believe in a thought crime, then. you call it stupidity, others will label some thoughts as bigotry, and all of a sudden some men have infiltrated the minds of other men

>>4503406
thats not retarded, but thats a preference, not an affirmation. I admit I make a loose affirmation, because I claim no absolute fact, I just defend my position. similarly to how many have debated before, only to continue in disagreement with no more knowledge than before

>>4503400
so group thought is what you want, huh?
this is idiotic
you dont understand that some of these issues are being disputed, so who decides who is universally upheld as right and wrong right now? no one. no one is qualified.

>>4503376
WHICH is why I claim OPINIONS, not facts.

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/psychology/the-brain-and-consciousness-t19827-20.html

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16775-consciousness-signature-discovered-spanning-the-brain.ht
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http://www.thebigview.com/mind/nonlocal.html

http://www.ukapologetics.net/07/mindandbody.htm

here's some sources of arguments and viewpoints based on already established facts in neuroscience, such as the structure of the brain, processes within the brain, assumptions of neuroscience, etc. I know this is not conclusive, which is why we will argue till we die. happy birthday

>>4503351
No thats not true. Im referring to the existence of the pineal gland, and it's relationship with the brain,

>>4503301
everything I said is in accordance with evidence, I never made a claim that was OUTSIDE of any evidence. this keeps coming up. EVERYTHING I SAID is not mutually excluded by the evidence. I was defending positions that have not been universally accepted yet. that is all.

>>4503338
>>4503338
THATS NOT FUCKING TRUE. there is evidence that is cohesive with the view that it is not the producer of consciousness. at least look up the arguments

>>4503335
I want you to tell me right now what constitutes matter. then maybe you'll get what Im saying. for example. what is "space". what is "time" the universe is more than simply materials, there are energies, objects, spatial-temporal properties of both, and things in between.

>>4503288
I believe our definition of material is flawed. for example - are dimensions material? in a way. they are apart of the natural universe. I believe thoughts and consciousness are apart of the natural universe as well. all natural, and coherent.
>>4503290
If you mean the Catholic definition of "souls" it's because they don't exist. If you mean consciousness, the phenomena which I expressed belief in previously? I believe this is because it is possibly sub-quantum and highly subtle. not as visible as the sun, but maybe less visible than the electromagnetism it produces.
>>4503294
yeah I agree with the theory I just believe there must be more to it, and that our understanding of genetics is in it's early stage.

>>4503294
>>4503288
I believe our definition of material is flawed. for example - are dimensions material? in a way. they are apart of the natural universe. I believe thoughts and consciousness are apart of the natural universe as well. all natural, and coherent.
>>4503290
If you mean the Catholic definition of "souls" it's because they don't exist. If you mean consciousness, the phenomena which I expressed belief in previously? I believe this is because it is possibly sub-quantum and highly subtle. not as visible as the sun, but maybe less visible than the electromagnetism it produces.
>>4503294
yeah I agree with the theory I just believe there must be more to it, and that our understanding of genetics is in it's early stage.

>>4503289
I apologize. please devalue everything I said because I mistyped. thanks. I'm responding to alot of people at once

>>4503280
it means that natural selection was based in evidence, but assumed to be fully complete driver of evolution by Darwin. and I dont give a fuck what you believe either, so lets just agree to disagree

>>4503272
all beliefs of things within nature. "The Holy Trinity" or "Miracles" would be supernatural. I believe their is nothing outside of nature - the universe - the everything