/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15828963
You either find dark energy and dark matter, in which case you proven the Big Bang, or you don´t, in which case it´s just copium. 95% if all matter in the universe is made of dark energy and dark matter? Go find it then. Because without that dark energy and dark matter, the entire Big Bang theory falls apart. Talking about how much heavy elements a tiny blob of light has, or the size of it is pointless, even it´s distance, since that is reliant on the redshift, which is reliant on the expansion of the universe, which again, is reliant on dark energy and dark matter.

>>15825552
https://www.livescience.com/space/cosmology/james-webb-telescopes-observations-of-impossible-galaxies-at-the-dawn-of-time-may-finally-have-an-explanation

"The galaxies, which the James Webb telescope (JWST) spotted forming as early as 500 million years after the Big Bang, were so bright that they theoretically shouldn't exist: Brightnesses of their magnitude should only come from massive galaxies with as many stars as the Milky Way, yet these early galaxies took shape in a fraction of the time that ours did."

So they saved their creation myth for now by fudging with the math. They made a computer simulation showing how it´s perfectly normal to find such big galaxies 500 million years after the big bang. But so far they are finding 10 times the galaxies they should find and they are finding them much bigger then they should be. It doesn´t really matter, at some point they are going to look, according to them, 16 billion years into the past and still find big galaxies. Then they revise their creation myth, ehh maybe it was 20 billion years ago. Fudge the math a bit more, add some dark energy, cut some dark matter yada yada.

>>15823964
>Forever has already passed.
So you actually did just tell me you met a married bachelor.

>>15823941
Even in the expanding goyslop big bang shit, people are told that some light will forever be out of reach, because of the ever expanding universe. You going to claim that is impossible as well?

>>15823941
>The light from the star is reaching Earth now, and fas been for all time.
That is some seething right there. It´s impossible for the light to reach earth. Obviously it will take forever for that light that is forever far away to reach earth. The fact that you can´t even stay within the very logic of language shows how much you lost this argument. Next you are going to tell me you met a married bachelor?

>>15823891
>Then it's just a matter of reaching equilibrium.
In infinite space? It really doesn´t matter that you have infinite amount of stars, you still can´t do it in infinite space.
if a star is infinite lightyears away and sends a beam of light towards earth today, when will it hit earth? Even if it has infinite amount if time, when will it hit earth? It is infinite lightyears away, when will it hit?
If you have and infinite large cold space, filled with infinite stars, when will it hit equilibrium?

>>15823887
Yes, and? I guess you are one of those people who have a problem understanding infinity. So an infinite amount of time has passed trying to heat up in an infinite large universe and here we are. If this confuses you, that´s on you.

>>15823877
>"And no it's not dust clouds or planets, if you had an infinite time the whole universe would reach thermal equilibrium.
Infinite time to heat up an infinite large universe.

>>15823843
>I do take exception with your attempt to blame it on Christianity, however, as if the leftyfags running the "science" of astronomy believed in Christ.
It all started with this guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
Lemaître was a priest and the real father of the big bang hypothesis. The big bang hypothesis was later pushed by the Vatican because it at least went along with their genesis story. "In the beginning there was nothing". This is not me making shit up, that´s just reality.

>>15823834
My friend. Dust and gas clouds are most certainly the solution. Just as they are the solution to why we are not blinded by the 400 billion stars in the Milky way.
Before you go on rant about infrared light. There are perfectly normal explanations for that as well. There is no paradox in having an infinite old, infinite large universe filled with infinite stars and not having our sky filled with light our the universe heating up. It´s just goyslop, it´s just abrahamic talking points trying to justify the one true god, who is so insecure he needs to be the master and creator of the universe and at the same time created a heaven for literal human slaves if they just bow to him.

>>15823684
>Do you understand what a thought experiment is? Clearly not.
I understand what a thought experiment is. It´s where you play out an experiment with your thoughts. I also understand that paradoxes are man-made impossibilities constructed through language/math, that is, impossibilities that only exist in language and math, not in the real world.
Pic. related.
Now in the real world, Achilles, who is demigod, runs 14 miles in one hour. The tortoise, who had a 1 mile headstart, moved 300 yards. If anyone wanted to see the paradox being solved can watch Achilles pass the tortoise. If anyone wants a mathmatical solution they can just put actual speed and length on any point they wish to study and see there is no paradox. Doesn´t matter how small they make the unit, as long as it has an actual speed, x/meters/per second. x/millimeters/per millisecond, he will beat the tortoise no problem.

So this is a very long winded way of asking you, do you understand that Olbers paradox is not an actual argument against an infinite and eternal static universe? Even though it is presented as such. Do you understand that in the real world, there is no paradox in having infinite stars in an infinite universe and not having our sky being set on fire.

>>15823607
>But then you just end up every direction ending on the surface of a star.
No every direction is going to end up on the infinite amount of gas and dust between us and the infinite stars. It´s not that hard to understand, only an AssTronomer insists on performing this thought experiment in a universe void of all matter except stars. It doesn´t take much to block photons. Anyone who ever walked outside understands how much a cloud can block light from a star 8 light minutes away from us. Now imagine how many dust and gas clouds a star infinite away will have to travel through.

>>15823607
>Olbers paradox is a thought experiment. You have to think. It obviously isnt the case, the question is why not.
3-4 hundred billion stars in the Milkey way. You can see a total of 9096 stars with the naked eye.
"But goys if the universe was infinite our entire sky would be one big giant flame of brightness!"
Give me a fucking break. Aside from the 9096 stars is the other 400 billion stars in the milkey way invisible to the naked eye because of the expanding universe?

>>15823607
>That doesn't matter if the universe is infinitely old.
It does actually. You are just one of the people who can´t fathom infinity and so now you are protecting your Abrahamic creation myth.

A star infinite lightyears away beaming a ray of light towards earth will take an infinite amount of time to reach us, right? Obviously. The age of the universe or how long the universe exists can´t change that. If the universe is infinitely old it just means that the light really does get to travel infinitely.

>>15823548
How long is it going to take light from a star infinite lightyears away to reach us?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27s_paradox
"As more distant stars are revealed in this animation depicting an infinite, homogeneous, and static universe, they fill the gaps between closer stars. Olbers's paradox says that because the night sky is dark, at least one of these three assumptions must be false"


AssTronomers shitting out shit, trying Jewish tricks to get goyim to believe in their Abrahamic creation myth because most people can´t fathom infinity. Obviously there is no paradox. Since the universe is infinite, light from a star infinite lightyears away would have to travel through infinite amount of other stars, planets and gasclouds to reach us. So it would have infinite objects between us and the star to block its light. The paradox is solved through logic on its own premise. You don´t even need to do math. Go look up at the nightsky, you only see stars in our own galaxy with the naked eye. Even according to AssTronomers about 100 galaxies are moving towards Earth/Milkey way. Including the closest one Andromeda. If our nightsky isn´t filled with light from these 100 galaxies, why would it be filled with light from a galaxy infinite lightyears away.

"Brightness
Suppose that the universe were not expanding, and always had the same stellar density; then the temperature of the universe would continually increase as the stars put out more radiation."

An argument for people who can´t understand infinity. Hurr durr I think the infinite static universe is gonna overheat from the infinite amount of stars.

There is no big bang, there is no expansion. That´s just Abrahamic culture given validity through "science". There is just the eternal infinite universe, always have been, always will be.

>>15818291
>And when pressed to explain how your idea about the CMB is consistent with reality
I don´t care much for explaining the CMB and I don´t need it to be consistent with reality. In fact, my very first post had one main point. To ignore AssTronomers and their copious amounts of shit.

>>15818256
Dude, you are unironically lost in ultra complicated math that stopped making sense a long time ago.

https://www.space.com/before-apollo-what-we-didnt-know-about-moon.html

Here are some misconceptions about the Moon that could only be put to rest by man actually setting foot on the Moon. Our closest object in the night sky and AssTronomers couldn´t tell if the Moon was fluffy or not. They couldn´t tell there was water on the Moon. They couldn´t tell where all the craters came from, was it volcanoes or from meteors.
We then set foot on the Moon, we actually go there. Turns out the Moon isn´t fluffy, turns out there is water, even though it was believed to be completely dry and we found out all the craters came from meteors and not volcanoes. That is the closest object you can look at in the night sky and we needed to go there to figure it out.
You come with some shit observation about things going on millions and billions of lightyears away and you think you have a clue of what you are looking at, when AssTronomers couldn´t even say if the craters on the Moon were made by volcanoes or meteors. Get fucked moron.

>>15818213
>Wrong. That is completely debunked by the existence of the SZ effect, where distant galaxy clusters leave imprints on the CMB.
Keep coping moron. Your fucking sentence even says it.
" where distant galaxy clusters leave imprints on the CMB"

What are you going to tell me now? That you are sure your math is correct because you looked at some star 3 billion lightyears away? Just keep looking for that dark energy?

>>15818145
>So why didn't Newton know immediately to look for Neptune?
Because Newton wasn´t an AssTronomer. The fact is, the AssTronomers started looking for Neptune because according to Newton´s law of gravity there should be another planet pulling Ur-anus.
>>15818145
>The CMB, baryon accostic oscillations, gravitational lensing, neutrino oscillation, gravitational waves., the SZ effect, Neptune, parallax...
Notice the instant shit-gallop coming from the AssTronomer. I just refute the first.
First. The cosmic wave background was not only predicted in the big bang theory.
Second. Most of the cosmic wave background is from the Milkey Way. If the AssTronomers math is off by even a tiny bit, there is no cosmic wave background from the big bang. There is only cosmic wave background from the Milkey Way and the other galaxies. And we know the AssTronomers math is always shit, every single fucking time they have to adjust their math.

>>15806193
Newtonian math predicted Neptune. AssTronomers never predicted shit in their entire history, ironic since they keep producing it. Maybe they should stop looking in their telescopes and take a quick glance behind them.
>>15812378
>They show the physics out there is consistent with current theory. That's the best you can do in space or in the lab.
Here we have a perfect example of a pile of shit produced by an AssTronomer. Obviously wrong and still the AssTronomer can´t help but shit it out.
>>15798121


The big Bang, dark energy, dark matter, it´s all shit produced by the AssTronomers and their big gay telescopes. It has never happened, that it was a good idea to change ones perception of physics to accommodate AssTronomers. They only produce shit and any physicist hoping to gain a greater understanding of the universe would be well advised to stay far away from them.

>>15779793
Most likely their math is just wrong and dark matter is not real. 2 examples comes to mind. The first is of course the "all swans are white". When you do finally get to Australia and see a black swan, the first assumption is to think you are seeing a new species of bird, not a black swan.
The other simple example is waters boiling temperature. Now I live in Denmark and we have no mountains, our tallest point is 170 meters above sea. So a Danish scientist could very well have very precise data and mathematical formulas on how much energy you need to add to how much water to get it to boil. He then travels to Mount Everest and finds all that math to be wrong as he starts to climb the mountain. What´s even worse is he doesn´t need to make one correction, it keeps changing the higher up the mountain he climbs.

Some of the galaxies have lots of dark matter, some have medium and some have very little to account for their rotations. Well obviously, since gravity works different in different parts of the universe. There is no extra matter, it´s just the properties of gravity that changes depending on where in the universe you are. Dark matter and dark energy are the biggest copes in science since "it must be God". That´s not an exaggeration since the theoretical experiments to prove or disprove dark matter and dark energy are just as plentiful as the theoretical experiments to prove or disprove that "it must God", which means there are none.

>>15779961
>the higgs boson is something we thought existed but didnt have the means to detect for a long time, just like what might be happening with dark matter
Then gives us the theoretical experiment that would prove or disprove dark matter. Well that´s not going to happen, is it?
So galaxies show different rotations that doesn´t match with our current understanding of gravity. Even worse, the rotations are all over the place. I then say, well it´s just God that spins the galaxies at different rotations for fun. Then a scientist comes along and say, well you can think that, but unless you come up with a falsifiable experiment to prove or disprove your theory, it´s not science.

Then a scientist comes along and sees the galaxies are spinning at wildly different rates. Some small galaxies spin like they have much more mass, some like they have slightly more mass and some match pretty well with our current understanding of gravity. The scientist then says, ahh, there is this magic juice called dark matter. The small galaxy spinning like it has much more mass must contain a lot of dark matter. The one spinning like it has slightly more mass must contain a bit of dark matter and the galaxy spinning just like we expect it too must contain almost no dark matter at all.

Then the guy who thinks it is just God spinning the galaxies at different rates ask the scientist, ok, do you have a falsifiable experiment to prove or disprove your theory? Well do you?

>>15350229
>Which is correct. As classification is completely arbitrary and you can define any group you want given some equally arbitrary ratio of some equally arbitrary alleles, Lewontin was wrong to use the fact to disregard classification outright. He is right, however, to disregard such classification as anything but arbitrary.
Wow. Very astute observation about human language. Very cool, very jewish. What is a cow? Well it´s a 4 legged mammal with males having horns that humans use to get milk. So why aren´t goats cows? Well they are a different species and cows and goats can´t breed. Wolves and dogs can breed, but they are different species.
What is a chair? Something that you sit on? If I sit on the floor, is the floor now a chair? Well not really. What if I sit on a tree stump? Is the tree stump a chair? Define a chair for me, because it seems rather arbitrary as what we define as chairs. When does a stool become a chair or a chair becomes a stool? Who knows? It´s arbitrary, as with every single word in every human language.

In humans it happens every so often that a genetic variability produces some weird results. Like siamese twins or people born with 3 legs or arms or one leg and the list goes on. How often does it happen that 2 African pygmies just happened to give birth to a Chinese? Never. How often does it happen that 2 white Europeans with their at least 70.000 years split from Sub-Saharan Africans just happen to give birth to an African? Never. Or maybe 2 white Europeans giving birth to an Australian aboriginal? I mean, if the genetic difference can be bigger between 2 white Europeans than between a white European and an Australian aboriginal, it would happen from time to time. Right? Given enough births, statistically it would happen. The reason it doesn´t happen, is because your a fucking nigger moron who thinks pointing out that language itself is arbitrary brings any insight to the table. What is table even?!

>>12424603
https://energinet.dk/energisystem_fullscreen

Denmark, home of the windmills and leading producer. The link gives a constant update on how much electricity Denmark is using and where we are getting it from.
Right now, at night, Denmark is using 3.182 MW. 771 is coming from windmills. Guess it's not blowing that much right now. 944 MW is being imported. 0 from solar since it's night. The rest from fossil fuels.
At good windy days with perfect conditions, those same windmills can produce enough electricity to power all of Denmark.
https://ing.dk/artikel/rekord-soendag-producerede-danske-vindmoeller-30-pct-mere-stroem-end-vi-brugte-228822
In september 2019 those same windmills produced enough electricity to power all of Denmark for 24 hours straight. Winter is the best season for windpower. But right now, right fucking now, those same windmills are not producing even 30% of Denmarks power in the middle of the night.
It is what it is.

>>8970428
>PhD in astrophysics
Who? Neil Degrasse Tyson?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_deGrasse_Tyson#Early_life
"Tyson was born in Manhattan as the second of three children, into a family living in the Bronx.[3] His mother, Sunchita Maria (née Feliciano) Tyson, was a gerontologist for the U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare, and is of Puerto Rican descent.[4] His African-American father, Cyril deGrasse Tyson (1927–2016), "
So 50% puerto rican and his father, being an african-american would have if we go on the average, 20% white genes in him, maybe even more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Ricans#Ethnogenesis
"tudies have shown that the ancestry of the average Puerto Rican (including all races) is about 64% European, 21% West and North African (including Canary Islander Guanche), and 15% Taino/Amerindian, with European ancestry strongest on the west side of the island and West African ancestry strongest on the east side, and consistent levels of Taino ancestry throughout the island."
Neil Degrasse Tyson might be 70% white.