/sci/ - Science & Math

>>2809263
That makes no fucking sense. I wanted a goddamn simple answer.

What is light?

The universe is synonymous with consciousness, as the universe can only be observed in consciousness. What exists "out there" in reality is moot.

>>2808129
You are both using an appeal to authority, which is a coward's way out.

We both know that religion doesn't need to concern supernatural characteristics, eschatology, mythology or creationism in the biblical sense.

In fact, all of humanity is religion. Appeals to authority, worshipping inanimate objects, etc.

The Problem With God:

Many scholars, or college goers, are too wrapped up in their dogma to see the bigger picture. The notion of God is not a human character with attributes. God is the term applied by man to any thing which does not have a creator. It can have many incarnations, but the central problem is this:

Men accept that there are those things which have no creator. These things are outside the realm of the EGO.

A physicist discovers a law. He did not create it, but he did discover it. Here, then is something which would never be called "God" but which nonetheless is common to the physicist and the Thor believer. It is similar to "Thor" in the sense that it is discovered, not created.

I do not believe that man is capable of inventing superhuman character SIMPLY BECAUSE there are stories of cultures who believed in superhuman characters. That is not proof.

In other words, I suppose in my minds eye that there is a man, who is responsible for creating the idea of a super being. Thor. Did he create it? Or did he discover it? For surely the fact that I am talking about thor means that the story exploits something withing the human mind. It is a placeholder for meaning, and that meaning wasn't created but discovered.

>>2807964
Its sad that you can't see a similarity simply because of the way someone defines it.

For many, consumerism is a religion. Earning money.

What do you think about magic?

>>2801197
You make a valid point. There was a time when I saw the swastika as what it was... A shape. The peculiar thing is that it gets linked to emotions in people's minds. To wit, you are propably supposing that I am dark and edgy because I brought up the swastika. Nothing of the sort. Symbols have power over people. They can't help but see not the thing in front of them, but the thing associated with it.

Were any reasonable people confronted with someone flaunting their symbol, it wouldn't threaten them. However, as leaders, we can't suppose that everyone will be as rational as us.

sage and report

>>2800886
Look, you need to be quiet. Its okay if you don't believe in the bible.

>>2800872
I think /sci/, and science alike, fail to take into account the maleability of the human mind. They fail to consider that they engage in fantasy activities which their minds do not distinguish from "real" activities. In fact, "real" is only a word that part of the mind understands.

>>2800843
You sound like a murderer.

>>2800807
Many unpopular positions need advocates to survive.

>>2800255
I didn't make a mistake. Calling God a "sky wizard" is a method of making him seem outdated and silly. Its an emotional tactic that you use. You didn't invent it.

As for being left alone, I doubt anyone wants that.

>>2800234
not that I recall.

>>2800231
See, I don't get this. People pretend that they aren't afraid of anything. Past generations believed in Zeuss. You call him a "genocidal sky wizard" just to show how silly it is. But you fear things irrationally too. So how are you better?

>>2800157
That sounds nice, but who do you know that wouldn't say they are reasonable, and what makes your way better than theirs?

(A rhetorical question.)

>>2800106
When I visited the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry they had an interactive Periodic table.

You could take elements and put them onto cubes. Then you would put the cubes together and a new element would form. ANd you could save the elements and combine new elements.

>>2798557
Boo hoo.

Cry more. And now I have to write a little bit so you don't think I'm callous or "crazy." Cry more, meaning, you're not giving anything of yourself. You're just making an appeal to sympathy, like I'll stop insulting the mental health profession if you make me feel sorry for them.

This is about you. I'm conversing with you, not them. I've put forward what I feel are very clear points. How you as an individual merely accept an artificial definition of "order" when the idea is unscientific. How, in reality, people only do what they do because of the consequences, not because they care about you. If you can't handle that, too bad.

>>2798510
How is that scientific?

>>2798500
I don't respect the medical community, its not the same as hate. Meanwhile, you insinuate that hate is a bad thing.

As I've stated, or "shown", a disorder is relative. You don't know what order is. Now, you, personally, that may not be true, but it is almost certainly true.

What is disorder? What is order? They are only defined terms. If a man dies, (oh, he was too depressed to do anything, so he died of starvation or suicide) who cares? No one. The medical profession does not care on an individual level.

So I ask you, are you in the business of bettering people's lives? Or do you just think you are?

>>2798467
Says who? I've already shown that the word "disorder" is not only relative, but what its relative to.

Are you in the business of helping people? Of improving their lives? Or do you just think you are because you are getting paid?

>>2798437
Yeah, and what's so bad about that?

I prove now that I made complete sense, you just don't know what sense is. You haven't got a clue what logic is. I merely asked a question. What's so bad about somebody dying?

The medical health profession hasn't got a clue. You all act on autopilot, you haven't got a clue what's in your heart. Is it bad if a man dies? Or is it only bad if a man dies on your watch? You haven't got a clue what compassion is, empathy. You don't even know what death is.

>>2798384
Why why would you say that? Do you just not care? Is there no one in this world you care about? Is there nothing that is important to you?

What have I said that doesn't make sense? Why, instead of trying to understand me, do you cast me aside? Don't you see that's what the profession does to mental illness? It takes its resentments out on people who are helpless.