/sci/ - Science & Math

>>8135968
It's not "like" anything to be cleverbot

>>8135962
>>8135962
cleverbot lacks subjective experience

>>8135949
>"Serious philosophers of mind" is an oxymoron. That whole field appears to be full of dogmatic clowns.

Maybe you should notify all of the ivy league universities that pay them of this.

>"Functional" as opposed to what?

not causally efficacious

>So you're proposing some kind of epiphenomenalism?

No. I'm a physicalist, I think consciousness is a property of the brain. By "not having mental picture of it" I mean not having a representation of it, i.e we can ride a bike without actually knowing anything about bikes or having any representation, we just cope skillfully with the bike

>>8135941
Not who your replying to but
>Define consciousness

perceptions and actions with an irreducibly subjective element

>>8135879
Guy you responded to here, I'm putting on a trip to make replying easier

>Actually the significantly lower complexity of animal neuroanatomy makes it more plausible that they didn't evolve consciousness yet.

Most neuroscientists and (serious) philosophers of mind disagree with you.

>I posit there are properties of consciousness which cannot be simulated by a computer.

I don't disagree that there are properties of consciousness that computers can't simulate, I disagree that there are functional (i.e causal) properties of consciousness that computers can't simulate.

>Humans can have intuition and mental pictures

One of the thing that is different about the human brain and most computers is that it doesn't have a picture (From now on I will use the word representation), it just handles business. Having an intuition for a mathematical concept is not having mental picutre of it (though this is often what we experience consciously while trying to develop one), just as being able to ride a bike is not to have a picture of it, rather, it's being able to cope with it skillfully and the feeling that comes along with that. In the literature this distinction is discussed under the rubric knowledge-that vs knowledge-how.

>A computer can only manipulate symbols and repeat facts. It cannot "explain" or "understand".

I agree about understand, but not explain. You don't need understanding to utter the words which constitute an explanation

>>6412337
Yes, and the tree is even taller, it wasn't that bad 2 years ago.

>>6412327
OK I can do that, Let's say my house is about 25-30 meters high.

>>6412322
Anon this >>6412317 is not me.
I can't do that for various reasons.
Thanks anyway, but is there another way?

>>5945024
We're protists dumbo.

>>5759541

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>>5759514
>>5759519

you come off as a really big cunt

anyone else want a science related one?

>>5747082

I got the first two; kind of scared to do the rest.

First one:

https://mega.co.nz/#!Q5RV1JyR!Hry3UlBHIAWQfIdvZyjrnicZYTMTs1ErnrxpPH8sBH4


Second:

https://mega.co.nz/#!tpxjgBKY!ZR-fJlvEHW5LFi618clsBChTjaVbEcmZc0LnRrexHZY

Yeah, I'll follow suit right now and up it to mega

link this post to your articles

>>5759464

pretty much this. Mech engineering + designing your own product after a few years + basing a company out of that product = dat der benjamin

I know the maori use to enforce only the alphas of the community mating. Not sure if they follow a religion or still prescribe to eugenics but it might be worth a shot.

I'm smart.

>>5167735
thats not me

I figured it out, guise. Don't need your help anymore. Thanks anyway.

I'm going to bed now. Have to get up early for highschool tomorrow.

>>5167739
CONFIRM OP TRIP

>>5167735
2nd Part

>>4559771

I lucid dream very often, to the point where I have perfect dream recall and control over my dreams. However I distinctly remember this happening while I was awake.

I woke up in the middle of the night in sleep paralysis. However this time, it was different. I could feel tingling, vibrations, and schocks all over my body. They became increasingly stronger. Eventually I felt comepletey light and felt as if I was rising out of my body. I would believe it was your typical halucination, incduced by being in a hypnogogic state. However one hing kept from believing that. My visio moved with me, instead of staying at a fixated point like it normally does when you're paralyzed. I could see my body on the bed, and could look around my room. Everything was as I remember, it wasn't hard to focus on anything like it normally is in a dream, even a lucid one.

I felt comepletley alert and aware. Eventually I simply went back in my body, and when I did I was still in a state of sleep paralysis. I remembered a trick to regain mobility, alternating your breatihng patterns between fast and slow causes your body to reawaken.

Then I just went back to sleepm deciding I would think about it in the morning when my head was clearer.

I've watched the entire Spirit Science series, and ocassionaly visit their blog.

I don't necasarally believe everyrthing they say, infact allot of it sounds like total bull.

However I do find a few of the subjects they touch on interesting, like the flower of life.

I've always been a pretty scientifically minded guy, believing only what had logic backing ut up.

However one thing they mentioned which, which fascinated me long before I knew about them, was astral projection (AKA Out of Body Experiences).

I've had them a couple of times, and could never really understand them. I'm pretty skeptical about Spirit Science's explanation, so could anyone here on /sci/ tell me what it could be?

I've heard of halucination caused during sleep paralysis, but I've had those, and they don't feel like what I experienced at all . . .

>>4555182

Thanks, anon! I'll just delete this thread now.

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