/sci/ - Science & Math

You can thank Julius Caesar for that.

>>2571439
Hmmm, well, I study history at my school and if it wasn't 5am and I was in a mind to walk through a raging thunderstorm in 35 F I might go glance at the books but for online sources I'm sure I can find something, but as we both know random online links don't quite carry that authoritative weight that a good solid-ass book does.

These might work


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt#Blankets_with_smallpox

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1088/did-whites-ever-give-native-americans-blankets-infecte
d-with-smallpox

Essentially, it was a discussed strategy to end a siege but was utterly trivial. Smallpox had been ravaging the Americas for 200 years by this point.

>>2571427
Many of them perceived it as you would imagine: it was the end of the world.

The "hurr rape and desetruction" of natives by Europeans is wildly exaggerated. Yes, it occurred, and the worst of it was by Spanish conquistadors, but you have to ask yourself: How in the fucking fuck did a few hundred guys take out a city of hundreds of thousands?

Yeah, better technology is a significant edge, but that's still a stretch.

And how did they manage to do it over and over and over again? Cortes was not the only conqueror to accomplish this feat.

The answer, of course, is smallpox and disease.

Over 90% of all people alive in North and South America died as a result of diseases they received from Europeans.


Of course, keep in mind, the natives got their revenge: They gave Europeans Syphilis, which caused havoc in Europe when it arrived. Many people were angry that they had to watch what they fucked.

>>2571214
You do realize that's a myth, right? That didn't happen.

Smallpox spread incidentally, as disease always does, when two isolated cultures initially make contact.

It still happens to this day, actually, when an anthropologist encounters an indigenous people who have been adequately isolated from society to avoid many of our diseases.

Women are attracted to money, power ,and confidence.

As you likely have neither money nor power, get some goddamn confidence.

Otherwise, forever alone.

>>2385629
:>hunger, slavery and religion

>comparing slavery to religion

You do realize religion has provided comfort to millions, if not billions, of people who have suffered under many yolks, including that of slavery right?

You dishonor them and their sorrows by having the fucking pretentious gal to compare the horrors they endure to fucking Sunday school. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course, you probably aren't.

And yes, I am an atheist, and yes, you do sicken me.

>>2223989
Yeah, except it's a TRUE quote. Your life is nothing but history. Your memories are history. We learn only from the past, from previous experiences.

If you didn't remember that a stove was hot you'd burn yourself throughout your life. It's a cliche because it's 100% factual.

>>2223975
>History
>Not mandatory

Oh lovely. People are ignorant enough of history as is, the last thing you need is them knowing less of it. History is vastly important. The number of ignorant shits I have to correct who hold their entire worldviews based on false history "knowledge" is staggering.

However, you are correct that the "hurrr memorize this date" stuff is garbage. History is about concepts, ideas, the changing landscape of the world.

Some dates are exceptionally important, but in most cases I would expect a student of history to explain to me WHY something happened, not what date it happened on.

>>2223803
Oh MY!!!! FOUR WHOLE YEARS/!?!??!

Why, goodness me, they'll almost be able to spell the word descend, and if we're SUPER DUPER lucky they'll be able to tell me what 3/2 is as a decimal.

You're literally advocating a society full of brainless halfwits who don't know how the government functions, don't know math, don't know english, don't know science, but by golly they all will find their "passion" in that art class they all take and no one pays attention in.

>>2223795
>No one cares if you're literate
>No one cares if you get good grades

Really? These people cared. Quite a bit actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Power_School

And when I finish college, my future employer will care quite a bit too.

That you intend on flipping burgers till you die doesn't mean everyone else is as pathetic, apathetic, and halfwitted as you.

Good luck getting a job you illiterate waste of humanity.

>>2223786
You literally think a society in which EVERY PERSON is illiterate and incapable of basic addition is good.

Yes, you are full-on retarded. I can't even form the words in the English language to express the depths of your stupidity.

>>2223770
>school has not been around for 5000 years
As a history major, let me assure you, in no small measure, that you have indeed history failed.

>>2223770
>>2223770
>Learn to read and write
>HURRRRRRR NAZIS

Yeah, and in your world kids aren't even forced to go to school. They magically get to decide what they like and do that. Good plan.

YAY! We'll convert an education system based on The Middle Ages in Europe! WHEEE! That'll be good for society!! Everyone completely uneducated, illiterate, incapable of doing math, and thinking that the world ends 200 yards outside their hometown.

Goddamn you are too stupid to breathe. Do you have a respirator? You must.

>>2223762
They didn't suffer, you simpering jackass. If you were incapable of proper grammar you wouldn't have a goddamn job. Good luck on an application when you don't know how to spell your own name.

But good plan, you simpering fucking retard, let's unleash on the world kids who are 100% illiterate. THAT'S good for society!!!!

And how the flying fuck do kids even find what their passion is if they aren't exposed to a wide array of subjects? Fucking magic? Maybe osmosis?

You are beyond retarded. You need to commit suicide. Society is worse for having you vote.

>>2223746
Jesus christ your theory is abhorrent. Yes, GOD FORBID we ask that people be able to add...AND read! Oh it's asking so much! Hurrrr, they'll never find what they love!

You want a society in which it's okay for someone to get an A in art to make up for their Illiteracy, inability to do math, and inability to tell the difference between Congress and a gopher.

And then you want to let these citizens you've unleashed on society vote.

Great idea.

>>2223747
Cry me a river you little bitch. 5,000 years of human beings managed to make it through school without cellphones, hell they made it through LIFE without your stupid little toys.

You shouldn't have them anywhere near a school. If you pulled one out in one of my classes I'd smash it in front of you.

>>2223711
>will ONLY TAKE THE CLASSES THAT INTEREST THEM
Deleted previous to reduce mad.

So your basic theory is that if we let a bunch of immature-as-shit CHILDREN determine the scope of their education we'll end up with well-rounded individuals? No, we'll end up with a bunch of lazy assholes sitting in art class who are 100% illiterate and 100% incapable of telling me what 1.5 is as a fraction.

These individuals would rather sit and fucking text than read 10 words out of a book. And you'll let THEM determine the course of their educational development? Fuck....no.

They will learn math. They will learn science. They will learn history. They will learn foreign languages. They will learn literature. They will learn everything they must to be a functioning member of this planet, and it doesn't matter two flying fucks if they like math or not. They WILL be able to do it.

>>2223711
>will ONLY TAKE THE CLASSES THAT INTEREST THEM
Jesus tapdancing christ you are a moron.

Congrats on having a shitload of kids taking art who are all illiterate and can't do basic mathematics.

You are too stupid to be allowed to manage a fucking Pizza Hut let alone education.

So your brilliant plan is to .... not educate anyone. What a dumbass.

>>2223695
We'll implement your plan.

>>2223693
I love all those tangible ideas you've got there. "HURRR Let's stimulate their souls!"

>>2223682
Who gives a shit if they don't like math? I don't give a rat's ass if you want to paint flowers for the rest of your life, you aren't going to be vomitted into society incapable of reading and writing.

"HURRRR but reading isn't my passion!" BOo hoo.

>>2223673
>>2223673
Where the flying fuck did I say throw out the grading system? Not only is it essential to any functioning school or society, it is essential in determining which teachers we fire.

>>2223670
>>2223670>have essentially turned into who can cheat the hardest and who has enough money to get privately tutored for them.
You obviously did dogshit on those tests. I studied on my own and had a 33 on the ACT. My parents are dirt-poor. I didn't cheat.

Just because the *GASP* notion of actually attempting to achieve on your own has never occurred to you doesn't mean it has never occurred to anyone else.

>>2223665
Jesus fucking christ. So why have school at all? Obviously "Dat dere edumucation aint helpin outs nobodies" as you so intelligently put it.
Why, we should just do away with school altogether!!!!!!!!!

Fucking retards everywhere.

And you people wonder why you need a strong hand guiding education and a simpering idiot like this poster?

>>2223661
>>2223661
That's brilliant. So we won't have any measurable way of determining what someone has learned, we'll just cross our fingers and hope they aren't morons.

Then Graduate Schools and any future employer can cross their fingers and hope they aren't hiring an F student.

You are as stupid as your idea.