/sci/ - Science & Math

>>2896805
The Cancer gene could be attached to the super inteligence gene, I mean in some ALTERNATE PARALLEL EVIL SHADOW MIRROR world, Hitler, Emperor of Earth kills off Steven Hawking as he is an inferior, and we loose a huge amount of science because of it. (this is a dumb example I know, but the point is if I remember from class, there is no "ABSLOUTE SUPER SMART GENE," just a series of probabilities.

>>2896765
I'll admit, I'm an engineer (in b4 engineer trolls, gay image spam etc), but genetics is a wonderful thing, I personally feel there are some genetic diffrences between races (the blood bank asks me to donate more often, I organized a minority bone marrow testing drive because apparently minorities don't donate enough marrow,) but they seem to be small, rather than the "X GROUP IS NOT PART OF THE PURE MASTER RACE AND SHOULD BE PURGED" movement which is annoying. OF course the person in the OP should be arrested, I mean hitting an old man, fuck he's like 80, jesus its not like he's Hiter..

>>2896761
Epigenetics feel like the revenge of that Lysenko fellow sometimes, though he apparently was more of a political scientist, who knew!

>>2896744
Could it be something controlled by those epigenetic factors that I have recently heard are external influences on genetic structures, explaining the results?

>>2896693
That theory I have heard as well from sociologists, who have shown when they present the test as a game, they can report jumps in IQ from 10 to 20 points. Anonymous poster, you have made a great point.

>>2896678
Compared to the total sum of people, yes a smaller group could, see mensa members having a higher IQ, but internally no, they would need a scale calibrated for them. I personally feel that there are many factors, Oppression is still there, but it is not as bad as it was in the 1960s, at this point it is more the universal social justice (shitty public schools, shitty jobs) issues which if fixed, should help all people.

>>2896665
Actually, Earth can be proven round through geometry, the Greeks for their lack of knowledge proved it,they just got the sizes wrong, it was the Church if any major force which said "The Earth Must Be Flat," if anything. The lack of global trade pretty much destroyed the "Proof from Sailors [on a perfectly flat surface, boats fade out evenly over the horizon, but on a sphere, you see the masts first]" (Horray Dark Ages) so please Try again.

Also, Re diaspora argument, most diasporas from Africa (and in general)are doing shockingly well, because it is only the highest educated people who are allowed to arrive in places like Europe and America, an example of the opposite is the somialian disapora, who are refugees, and lack the educational base (but I must admit, i fucking hate somalians they are scum and pirates) have a higher crime rate when they arrived in the United States.

>>2896632
The differences between the races are small enough to be thought of as mostly environmental, IE Poor People eat badly in pregnancy, which research has shown can impact the IQ of the fetus, which combined with a lack of excessive and diet and a lack of reading in early childhood leads to a lack in mental development.

Since more american blacks tend to be poor... WELP between that and social/economic pressure, that explains the racial IQ gap. I suspect since I went to school with white children, was taught to "READ OR ELSE", it explains my unusually high scores. Where can one take a current IQ test, anyway?

>>2896617
>average
>higher than 100
Uh isn't average IQ supposed to be 100, otherwise you need to recalibrate the scale like they do every 30 or so years because of better education making the high mark lower? (I don't understand the point of IQ tests, I'm decently smart and got a 120 when I was in high school, which was shocking, since I don't think I'm anywhere near SMART levels).

>>2896617
>>2896596
>implying South of Saharan africa doesn't have slavery.
You can buy workers pretty much as slaves if you are decently wealthy, that's a side effect of human labor being absurdly cheap!
>>2896596
Actually, Ethopia is doing decently well for a developing economy, even accounting for the cold war interventions.
>>2896591
Africa and the Middle East both had massive colonization which destroyed national borders, put religous and social groups that hated each other near each other, and suffer and still suffer the results, and you expect people to pull themselves up by their boostsraps? Lol!

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>>2896587
A good point, Russia is still absurdly low on the human development index, and they had the advantage of a built in royal and then middle class!

>>2895713
>goes to comment on the horrible crime
>racism
Fuck you /sci/ fuck you hard.

>>2844648
3 years? What? literally every source I have read is screaming 2020 is the END OF MOORE'S LAW just because at this point processors become the size of freaking atoms

http://blogs.forbes.com/alexknapp/2011/03/30/the-end-of-moores-law/
here we go, the most recent article I could find on this issue

>>2844662
The problem is, a good replacement robot needs to fit into my house with minimum changes, or else I won't use it. It isn't like say an automatic lawn mower which just is placed where my old one would be, in a closet or garage, this one would be in the house, which.. is a pain for most consumers to change.

>>2844551
We still got a while before we start reaching the physical limits of silicon, and as I said, our code suffers from too much processing power (joke about what Intel givith, microsoft taketh away goes here)

>>2844437
Eh, we still die of viruses, though we have managed to make viruses and bacteria so virulent they could kill off most of the human race, so we are pretty much doing what mendel did with his peas, only MUCH FASTER, computers helped, though I feel we need much more time to understand the exact implications of the * genome project(s), so 2015-2018 for SUPER DIAMOND nanotech is .. highly optimistic, I'm going to be one of those 2030s-2050s people.

I feel that the CS people will do more than nanotech, just because even if moore's law breaks down in only 5 years, our computer algorithms are nowhere as time/energy efficient as they could be .

>>2844270
I come from the nuclear/fluid side of physics, the biggest problem I have with nano factories is .. well its all absurdly theoretical, with absurd predictions that make Arthur Clarke look like the CNO's commands. Diamoid hyper materials which literally do not exist? Predictions for 2015 which aren't even materalising now (Its less than 8 months till 2012, they should be in beta by now), you are posting gigantic vaporware which .. well the biologists haven't even cracked how we do it NATURALLY and nature like I said, has had a huge head start, so you think you nanotech guys will do it? Ha, good luck!

(also that website reads like a 1990s geocities/ad page)

>>2844296
the challenges of space exploration are nothing compared to nanotechnology, which .. put it this way, nature has had 3.8 billion year head start on nanotechology, and its in you, me, and every life form on this planet. Nanomachines would have to obey the same laws that keep bacteria in a few set shapes or else suffer from the inability to navigate the fluid physics model that is micro and below scale.

>>2844220
change can be induced by both environmental factors (separation in eating habits, cosmic rays causing mutations, separations through geologic/environmental changes..), so punctuated equilibrium does not always apply.

>>2844170
but it uses the problem of INFINITE PROJECTION/Power law curves to project godhood. This problem is shown with the issue of razor blades approaching infinity in only 70 years or so.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ryYViptXiO8J:agrumer.livejournal.com/414194.htm
l+infinite+razor+blades&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ubuntu&source=www.go
ogle.com

Singularityism is dumb and assumes so much dumb shit, transhumanisim rides with singularitism like flies on shit.

>>2844034
>>2844034
smallest terms broski, that's why, x and square root 2 is simpler than leaving an exponent within a radical.
>>2844064
square root of x^2 is x, square root of 2 is a dumb irrational number

>>2844082
transhumanism/singularityism is the rapture for white nerds, humans love the idea of becoming god, through prayer or magics or bullshit, now its technology

>>2795358
Tell me, why is your religion better than this Islam stuff that I see, or this Buddha guy the japanese exchange students talk about?

>>2793503
it does bro, iron is MORE DENSE than silicates, which is why it forms the solid core

>>2793496
I corrected myself, the moon is rather.. think of it as fried candy bars. The crust is the fried coating on the outside, the mantle is the musy nougat material, and the inner candy bar is the solid core. Earth, on the other hand is more like a soft boiled egg, with a thick core, semi liquid mantle, and liquid (and then solid) core.

>>2793442
militaryfag here, gun knowledge is overrated, honestly I know about pistols, shotguns, machine guns (hoyah quals), and to be honest, its useful, but Economic knowledge can make me more money to purchase more guns.

>>2793485
More or less, I should be more exact. The inner material is not exactly "THERE IS NO MASS HERE, VACUUM" but lighter elements than Earth's own mantle, and rigid, which compared to Earth's own core, is hollow.