/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11953831
It made blood turn red and the soil rot away.

>>11953758
Atlantis ruined the planet when they invented metallurgy.

>>11859362
Yes, but it is because of the constant fishing which depletes seawater of nutrients, not climate change.

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>>11859086
The ageless look all around 16. There is no dementia; the brain is the first organ to go with aging. Even young adults are already demented, this is why you weren't told despite it being discovered a long time ago.

>>11381907
The Atlanteans did it.

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Atlantis destroyed the environment by digging up copper from the soil, which resulted in a massive soil rot. Which means no architectural remains from before that point, as all collapsed and got washed down with the soil.

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Atlantis destroyed the environment by digging up copper from the soil, which resulted in a massive soil rot (copper prevents decomposition by bacteria, so organic matter accumulated as much as plants were able to survive the low CO2 levels). Which means no architectural remains from before that point, as all collapsed ans got washed down with the soil.

>>11327536
eat copper

>>11296245
No, it's because brains are so energy hungry they burn through their ATP faster than it can be recharged. So they neeed to shut down for a recharge once in a while. It isn't unlike having to rest after sprinting. It could technically be possible to tune brains to go slower, but it's such an expensive issue it probably isn't worth it except for the most majestic animals, like sperm whales.

>>11298237
Nobody cares because the actual cause of "aging" is so simple there is no way to make money on the solution. It's so easy I bet many people could do it in their garage, if they had to.

>>11287666
interesting how nobody's willing to try

>>11287389
>an important step in the method is to form a theory in the first place

That doesn't work. Let me demonstrate:
Here is a sequence of three numbers. There is a rule to it. You need to figure out the rule. You can post your three numbers and I will tell you if they conform to the rule or not. You can test as many sequences as you want to, but you have only one chance of telling me what the rule is. Let's see if you can succeed or not.
3 6 9

Copper was labelled a toxic hevy metal in error. It is a necessary nutrient. When a protein is missing a copper ion where it's supposed to be, it's prone to collapse, causing amyloid diseases like alzheimers. (this is also the reason why copper bowls is needed for good quality whipped eggs, since it fills up the missing copper sites) See the amounts used in animal feeds, human medicine got the numbers almost certainly wrong. The difference is so massive the EU restricted the concentrations to 150mg/kg feed, since the amounts used were deemed toxic to the environment.

>>11178543
Most "diseases associated with aging" are not caused by aging at all. Our calcium intake is too high, which causes caclification and magnesium depletion. This is the reason why Asians often look so much younger, because their cuisines don't use milk, and many find cheese disgusting. The current RDI was determined in such a way that the human body is unable to excrete more than it absorbs, which mean that once your bones stop growing and fill up with calcium, the accumulating calcium starts ruining your body. Optimal calcium intake is unlikely to be above 300mg.

>>11157868
How did you determine this is the correct list? Even if we ignore the idea that most zinc enzymes should contain cobalt instead, why did you pick fluoride, chrome and vanadium, which have no clearly established functions in the body, but not molybdenum, cobalt or iodine, which are contained in known enzymes? Or why not many other metals that will end up incorporated into proteins when the opportunity arises? (neither proteins nor the machinery is so clear cut and different metals will get incorporated into the same protein depending or circumstances and many more metals can be added artificially, the same way cobalt can be exchanged for zinc for ghe spectroscopic measurements)

>>11157868
How did you determine this is the correct list? Even if we ignore the idea that most zinc enzymes should contain cobalt instead, why did ypu puck fluoride, chrome and vanadium, which have no clearly established functions in the body, but not molybdenum, cobalt or iodine, which are contained parts of enzymes? Or why not !any other metals that will dnd up incorporated into proteins when theopportunity arises? (neither proteins nor the machinery is so clear cut and different metals will get incorporated into the same protein depending or circumstances and many more metals can be added artificially, the same way cobalt can be exchanged for zinc for ghe spectroscopic measurements(

>>11157776
You wouldn't notice if you thought the way you are is completely normal, because everyone else is poisoned as well.

>>11157304
Middle ages was quite recently, just before the renaissance and modern ages. I'm talking about thousands of years ago. Brass might have been seen as turning copper into "gold", so it possibly was held as a carefully guarded secret for who knows how long, and make it very unlikely for early cases to be found.

>>11157243
But cobalt can form the bond with copper in superoxide dismutase, while zinc can't.

>>11157233
People woupdn't need zinc if they had enough of cobalt and one more metal.

>>11157206
No, the age because some proteins cannot work wit zinc instead of cobalt (including those that remove free radicals) and because iron is susceptible to oxidative damage, unlike manganese.

>>11157190
Also where aging comes from, because we are not supposed to die for no reason. We are dying from getting poisoned.

>>11157190
No, not a schizo. This is where all the myths of golden age, kali yuga, fall of man etc. come from. Where the "impossible" cultural knowledge comes from. Where monkey vocal tracts being fully capable of human like speech come from (they used tk talk before that)
Many people with "autism" and other kme tal disorders" are actually somewhat resistant to the poisonous effects of these metals and have increased brain capacity as the result.

Because their brains are not poisoned like ours are; early metallurgy introduced metals that were not naturally present and mammals hadn't evolved tondeal with, so we literally lost our minds, limited to a fraction of our real brain capacity (much less than the famed 10%). Insects managed to evolve resistance before us, both because of their larger numbers and shorter lifespans, and the selection pressure being higher due to their brains being so tiny that any decrease in ability is likely deadly.