/sci/ - Science & Math

I'm going to go eat dinner but when I'm back I'd like some ideas on how I could die if I was only comfortable dying by dehydration and I couldn't do it where I'm at.

Also assume I can prove to anyone of reasonable intellect that after death there's paradise.

Thank you very much.

>>7296991
>You're promising and afterlife, without proof or an explanation, and expecting people to believe.

Nope, I'm saying you should volunteer to be
the one that agrees to die or let me die IF i PROVE that the afterlife is paradise.

>>7296985
>>7296980
>>7296972

Ah, if you never volunteer you'll never know how I can explain how I'm right even with disagreements.

But let this thread be put on pause, I have some thinking to do as a result of >>7296802

>>7296929
Also if they thought that the Bible couldn't be wrong then they could've just said that, but they didn't, they said what they said, so your interpretation is obviously wrong.

>>7296927
Already went to /x/ & /b/, both of them were too dumb to understand they had basically nothing to lose.

>>7296927
Ok so let's think of a way it could be done without you having to risk jail time.

>>7296929
not comfortable with that method of death as i could be in excruciating pain for a significant amount of time before dying since I don't have proof that killing myself that way is instantaneous.


>>7296931
I did refute >>7296895, you said I could've posted the proof and discussed it instead of posting what I've been posting and I said that
that would require much more thought-effort which is why I'm not doing it.

>>7296929
How do you know people won't volunteer before i explain? And I do have something to lose by explaining, the misery of putting in the effort.

How do you know it's for a long time after the end of humanity's lifespan?

You can't reference the Bible as if it's accurate and then discredit it as being made be dumb people.

>>7296904
Well I guess it's not provable either way, so why bother discussing it? Discuss things that actually we can affect and matter.

>>7296902
Your English is too bad for me to understand sorry.

>>7296917
If I could've killed myself already, if there was a way I was comfortable doing it that was possible, I'd have already done it.

Why do you still think I don't understand what proof means, what have I stated that makes you think I don't? Can you just tell me already?

How is my OP image fucked up?

I have proof that proves that it is very likely for x to happen. If you think that makes me not know what proof means then I'm sorry to tell you but you're wrong.

>>7296875
That's because I'm only willing to put the effort into explaining away someone's particular misunderstandings if they are willing to volunteer, it'd be a waste of effort to do otherwise.

>>7296897
Look, i'll say it again; You do not need to believe in god for my proof to be a proof, I edited the .pdf to show that.

>>7296895
Because explaining my logic would require a significant amount of thought-effort, refuting everyone's silly attempts to invalidate me cost next to zero thought-effort.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE BY VOLUNTEERING? ANSWER ME THAT.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE, I REALLY WONDER WHY NO ONE WILL VOLUNTEER?

Except for >>7296802

I guess that's why people won't volunteer, I need to think of something to counter that, any ideas?

>>7296884
It's not communicable, but I know through memory that I'm the same person consciousness-wise that fell asleep yesterday.

This is bullshit that only people who have nothing of use to offer argue about though so I'd rather not discuss this.

>>7296885
I will explain if people volunteer. People have nothing to lose by volunteering so I won't eplain until people volunteer.

Where does it state that all laws and teachings of the bible will remain valid forever?

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke%2016:17

>>7296874
It doesn't depend on you believing in god, no, it doesn't. It just made a nice little piece of evidence valid if you did, but it's not necessary. The evidence was icing on the cake that is the proof,

>>7296865
How would it be hard to hide?

Also it's not dead people living among us since they came back from the realm of the dead to the realm of the living so they'd be considered 'alive' people or just people.

>>7296859
Why don't *YOU* volunteer?

When everyone has the mentality 'why doesn't someone else do it?' then it never gets done.

VOLUNTEER, YOU - WHO ARE READING THIS RIGHT NOW, VOLUNTEER. I SHOULD GET MULTIPLE VOLUNTEERS AFTER THIS POST. IF NOT YOU GUYS ARE NOT TRUE MEN OF SCIENCE, BUT BOYS OF MATH.

>>7296853
I changed the proof's beginning statement about God. Sorry about that.
>>7296852
I would do it myself but like I stated in the OP Image I can't do it where I'm at.

You call my logic twisted but offer no explanation for me to refute, looks like you're scared of being proven wrong.

>>7296844
Read the rest of the statement, I was saying if i was a mass murderer I'd have to be a mass murderer that has a ... the rest is stated in the post you quoted so I won't bother repeating it.

>>7296816
https://www.google.com/search?q=define+proof

First definition. Also I'm not going to use any logical fallacies, look if you're scared to be the volunteer (for irrational reasons as you'd only consent to dieing if i convinced you that the afterlife is paradise) then that's fine, just don't funpost in my thread, I can bump it by myself thanks no offense.


>>7296817
How do I not have proof?

>>7296821
>>7296822
>>7296823
>>7296829
>>7296830
There. Are. People. Suffering. In. The. World.

What I've been saying, isn't something you should joke around, troll, or just in general funpost about. It's something you should take seriously, dead serious.

>>7296803
If I was a mass murderer, I'd have to be a mass murderer, like I said before, that a) has a proof that after death is paradise and b) proved that proof to you through your misunderstandings.

So it's almost like, if I was a mass murderer, it'd be a good thing if I was right about their being paradise after death, but I'm not just taking people's lives left and right, I'm coming on the internet to seek to prove it to someone so they or I or both of us can die with consent. And dieing wouldn't be a bad thing if after death there was paradise which is what I'm proposing to prove to whoever volunteers.

>>7296804
How do you know such a god exists? That's not my definition of God, and isn't the majority of the planet's either. Most conceptions of God involve him sending down prophets, not doing it himself.

Suicide may be a sin but remember where it says that 'it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for a single letter of the law to no longer be valid' or something to that effect? Well that shows that suicide being a sin could no longer be valid.

>>7296809
How do you know no one came back? Do you know what would happen if someone said they came back from the dead? They'd get put in a mental health facility until they changed their minds.

>>7296796
>>7296791
There are people suffering in the world. If I have a way to give them a way to stop their suffering and be in paradise, why wouldn't you take that potential possibility seriously?

>>7296797
Not just time, effort.

I'd have to be a cannibal that proved that the afterlife is paradise, odds are pretty low on that one. But anyone could be a cannibal, the person you pass by on the street could be one so that's a moot point.

>>7296799
There is no 'explain it once one here', explaining it here and I get '50 people' all with their unique misunderstanding.. If I explain once on my forum to a volunteer, then I only get one set of unique misunderstandings that I have to deal with.

>>7296800
Read my response to the above guy, if you guys want the proof so bad, volunteer.

But I just realized something as of this post: >>7296802

>>7296787
Ok I didn't realize that angle before. Hm, this is a sticky mess how do I get out of this one.

Oh say that you didn't know I stopped eating and drinking and that... crap idk you got me on this one, either someone will have to pay the hotel/motel fees for me or someone will have to die themselves.

Wow I honestly didn't think of this before, everything was going along so smoothly so I thought it would continue that way.

Your post made me laugh though 9k1/10

>>7296780
I CAN'T TELL YOU BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME ON A NON-VOLUNTEER, ON A VOLUNTEER YOU DON'T JUST HAVE TO 'BEREEVE ME' WE WILL DISCUSS THE PROOF THAT I WILL PRESENT ONCE I GET A VOLUNTEER, AND PRESENT IT ONLY *TO* THAT VOLUNTEER.

How do you even know that it is a false notion that I will go to paradise? You don't, you're assuming I'm wrong when all you have to do is s volunteer to get the reasoning that proves you go to paradise after you die.

>>7296781
What about it?

>>7296774
If I'm wrong then how the fuck could I convince you?

Holy shit 10/10 you got me to curse.

>>7296776
Quit funposting please. If you have an issue with what I'm proposing, be mature and state it so we can discuss it. I'm not just going to leave because I make your assumptions about life uncomfortable.

>>7296763
No I just don't like to curse.

>>7296765
Stopping the circlejerk. Providing insight into the other side's viewpoint. IDK.

>>7296767
The proof that I have shows that not to be possibly the case.

>>7296768
I do have evidence, compelling evidence, or in actuality proof, it's just that I'm not going to waste my time on just anyone who comes here saying 'show me the goods and we'll discuss', no, you first have to volunteer and then we can discuss the proof after I show it to you.

What exactly do you have to lose by volunteering? You'll only die if I can prove that the afterlife is paradise so please please PLEASE tell me what you have to lose?

>>7296753
Do you understand what the post you quoted was saying?

I was saying to someone who said I'm insane to provide reasons why he thought I was insane so *I* could refute those reasons, not that he can't refute my proof.

>>7296754
If you volunteered I could show you how your misunderstanding/misrepresenting or just in an unexplainable-without-explaining-my-proof way wrong.

So volunteer, you literally have nothing to lose. If I don't convince you then you nor I die.

>>7296755
That may be true, but you're assuming I'm insane, that is what is at question here.

>>7296756
Good point, but maybe I'll get the power since I know how to prove that paradise is after death without the power so the power would just be a way to show that you should listen to what I have to say.

Or if I don't get any sort of specialness after coming back (I think this is very unlikely) then idk.

>>7296750
Get bored too easily. Boredom is unbearable.

I guess this is the result of over-stimulation in a technological society.

>>7296746
They wouldn't even think I'm the Antichrist (antichrist is claimed to be a person who will claim to be the messiah iirc), they'd just get me put in a mental health facility I bet.

>>7296739
Please stop funposting, if you see something wrong explain how it is wrong, if I thought I was insane I wouldn't be posting what I'm posting so I obviously disagree that I'm insane so saying it isn't going to lead to some sort of revelation in my thinking. That's unlikely.

But if you explain why you think I'm insane I can refute it and change YOUR mind.

>>7296733
Yeah but where would I do it? I stated in the OP image that I can't do it where I'm at.

>>7296728
I don't follow, what would buying a monkey and hanging myself have to do with anything? It is true that monkeys are p-lps though if they're conscious.

>>7296724
Ignoring a neighbor's knocking is much more feasible then getting no one to come to your hotel room. Wait, this is actually an okay idea.

But I don't have the funds.