/sci/ - Science & Math

>>4150054
how are you defining infrastructure

>>4150015
>a tiny bit further
>theory of relativity

>>4149993
I'm sorry i can't greentext

>>4149974
Try last 6 hundred years for northern Europe and your aryan race, stormfag.

SO. ARE YOU SAYING that africa was as culturally and technologically advanced as europe...600 years ago?

I think most money in general should go toward scientific resources, mainly renewable energy, waste processing, and water purification technologies.
I talked to my econ professor about how I think that and he said "Oh really? Then invest in it." If you think we should be doing that, then do it yourself and make fucking bank

>>4149899
>romans came up with everything worthwhile about europe
You're point?
>>4149890
>favored blind obedience to the pope
If that was a genetic trait I guess it might make some sense to talk about it as a genetic trait. but it isn't

>>4149875
I didn't use the word spectrum so I don't know what the fuck you are talking about
>>4149878
In the sense where you compare european society to african society, european society was pretty mother fucking advanced technologically and culturally

revision?

>>4149855
OK. I was a little beflustered by people (apparently seriously) claiming that natural selection "doesn't happen anymore" but next time I'll try to keep a straight face and be super srs :)

>>4149824
I don't think i claimed that civilization dwellers ARE more intelligent than hunter-gatherers. I just claimed that civilizations favor intelligent members in natural selection. which would mean that eventually civilization dwellers would be more genetically intelligent. after a while of natural selection making them smarter

>>4149818
Oh lol. Yeah i knew the ginger thing wasn't a real argument. If you really need me to like give an example of how natural selection still occurs now, then...ok...people with a genetic predisposition to being infertile are less likely to have kids. there. or, people with a genetic predisposition to die of leukemia before age 9 are less likely to have kids.

>>4149816
>chipping a flint
If all you have to do is chip it to a certain general shape, I would imagine physical strength and dexterity would be more important to this than intelligence. Making a well with a fucking windlass, on the other hand, requires an understanding of basic mechanics, or some shit.

about role specialization: from what i know there were like manors with a lord and a bunch of peasants, and there weren't like stores or craftsmen who lived there
if they wanted shit they had to go to a trading city or buy shit from a craftsman or trader. which means if they had like a plow or cart that broke, they would probably try to fix it themselves because there weren't traders or craftsmen in the manors on a regular basis.

>>4149806
OOOH! Someone pretentious who's dodging the point because of either laziness or stupidity :P

>>4149752
I agree with you :) but like, can you link to articles on this? Because I haven't actually researched it myself beyond arguing with people on the internet.
What examples can you think of that show that agricultural societies involve moar abstract thought than hunter gatherer ones? It makes sense to me that they would but I haven't thought of too many examples.

>>4149752
What circular logic have I been using dawg?

>>4149741
>>4149746
I actually find gingers hot myself. But I hope you would acknowledge what I was arguing, which is that natural selection still fucking occurs now.

>>4149729
I haven't made any claims about superiority IIRC.
And about how education relates to birth rate in the modern world: in the OP i said that I was talking about what occurred during the last 4000 years but not counting the last 100 or so, since during the last 100 or so education/intelligence has taken the role you describe.

>>4149721
>scientific evidence
>one guy's story
>>4149727
see >>4149733
also,
>Europeans never had any real use to intelligence, they would work as farmers for their overlords, work as manual labor in factories or live as a beggar in a big city. Whatever they were doing was simple and the same thing day in day out.
examples of relatively complex stuff they had to do: plow shit in certain patterns, rotate crops, care for farm animals, trade with others (yes it was mostly barter).
>Africans on the other hand, had to work hard to survive, come up with tactics and create tools to be able to survive against other mamals to ensure a dinner.
Whatever tools they created were probably a lot simpler and easier to use i.e requiring less intelligence to use well than the tools europeans were using.

Also: Consider that in africa, even if intelligence was an important (to have) trait, physical ability was also very important, in fact more important that it was in europe. If you have to chase down fucking gazelles you need some damn good vo2 max. Which black people have. And white people don't. So because physical superiority was being selected more strongly/ heavily in africa than in europe intelligence was less important to natural selection in africa. I hope this makes sense since I don't actually know dick about terminology.

>>4149713
>Natural selection stops applying when tools get invented
No. Because no. yes technology helps weaker people survive. No it doesn't eliminate natural selection completely. for instance what about gingers? they have technology to keep them alive, but that doesnt mean anyone will fuck them for <9000$

>>4149702
Now why would I do that? :)

>>4149626
> Your theory basically says that people from the near east are the einsteins of the world. Then why so few nobel prizes?
>citation needed

>>4149648
>doesn't address my claims

>>4149636
>Can be disproven for population 1 by simply looking at any historic example of a population 1 and finding that many of the people who called the shots and got the chicks were not the people who were smartest. In fact, the smartest people were being locked away, especially in medieval times.

>citation needed

>>4149597
OK Mr. Word Detective! You got me!
>>4149598
>herp a derp no real argument
>>4149605
Ok. First I didn't mean to say the average european was smart as fuck. I said the non average european who was smart as fuck would be able to make use of intelligence more than a fucking negro in a damn tribe.
I don't think the standard of living is relevant, it's just the correlation between intelligence and reproduction as well as the correlation between physical fitness and reproduction