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Alright /med/fags we haven't had a thread in a few weeks, but something has caught my attention and I want to discuss it with you. The following study:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/

says the increase of celiac desease in recent years is due to the use of Roundup in crops. I actually took time to read the whole thing and they make some good points, but there are some red flags I encountered as well which are as follows:

1.Most of their claims are based on animal models
2.Most claims are on level of hypothesis without experiments to back up said hypothesis
3.One of the researchers has mostly ophtalmology papers and all of a sudden two glyphosphate papers
4.The other researcher is a computer science expert
5.They are so certain of their claims in the conclusion they state that this is sufficient evidence while other papers I've read always say "more research is needed"
7. Celiac desease existed before monsanto and roundup.

Are they legit or they actually let conspiracy theorists publish this? And if this is real isn't it supposed to be a whole different desease?

For newcomers the /med/ thread is a thread about the medical profession and all those involved in it. Pseudoscience and antimedicine shilling is forbidden. Cases, scientific studies and novlety discussions are encouraged. Exam complaining and sharing of health problems is frowned upon, but not forbidden.

>> No.9981978

I'll have to read it later. But as a generalisation, something is responsible for the increase in autoimmune-related conditions over the last 50 years or so. Things that hardly bothered my parents' generation are now commonplace.

>> No.9982004

Should i specialise in neurology or psychiatry? The salary and demand for both specialisations are the same in my country.

>> No.9982013

>>9981946
Can someone with OCD become a good doctor?

>> No.9982139

What's with the whole aussie/harvard researcher claiming they have actual progress towards reversing aging? I feel like this should be massive news but apparently a girl getting strangled in a school deserves to be on the front page and get a full spread instead.

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/pill-to-reverse-ageing-just-three-years-away-ng-b88424326z

>> No.9982253

Hey guys, I want to become a doctor in australia. Being the cheap jew I am, I'd rather not pay thousands for GAMSAT material. Can someone help me out, if you get my gist?

>> No.9982274

>>9982004
why do you ask something like that here ?
Id take neuro

>> No.9982568

>>9982004
Since salary and demand are the same, what patients do you want to get? Do you get along with psychiatric patients? Can you communicate with stroke patients that have dysarthria? Are you good with the neurological hammer? What is more interesting to you? Stuff like that.
>>9982013
You'll be annoying to colleagues and nurses, but sure why not.
>>9982139
It's not big news because it's animal testing only. Like in the article I posted in my OP. If you get results like this in a human trial then it can be big news. As a matter of fact have you faggots heard that there's a HIV vaccine that has been tested on 2000 people and it showed no adverse effects and had 80% coverage? That was big news and no one gave a shit about it except some science websites.

>> No.9982639

I only study medicine to pass exams and I find it much more fulfilling to read literature. How do I get back to finding science fascinating?

>> No.9982659

>>9982004
the fields are pretty different in terms of practice, despite having some cross over in patient population.

that being said, psych has more options in terms of "chill" lifestyle.

>> No.9982961

>>9981946
How stressful Is being a medfag?
I want to be a radiation oncologist but I'm very afraid I'll get sued for malpractice by crazy people, Or I'll fuck something up and end up fired. How easy Is It to fuck up In medicine?

>> No.9982973

>>9982961
You want to go into oncology and stress is a concern? The field is literally watching people die slowly every day.

>> No.9982979

>>9982973
Ok, then how depressing It might be? I am not sensitive when It comes to people dying, as long as they are random people I don't know

>> No.9982984

>>9982979
You sound too dumb to take seriously so I am going to assume you don't even get into medical school let alone choose a specialty

>> No.9982989

>>9982984
Why are you so mad? why should I be emotionally attached to someone I don't know? It's a different story If It's someone I do know.

>> No.9982991

>>9982961
>>9982979
>>9982989
Are you not in medical school?

>> No.9982997

Isn't radiation oncology essentially gamma knifing everything in sight? I don't think it's a 'clinical' position like oncology is, is it?

>> No.9983001

>>9982997
It is a sub-specializion for oncologists.

>> No.9983008

>>9981946
>>9981978
Hygiene hypothesis

>> No.9983028

how do I finish pharmcuck school with my sanity intact?

>> No.9983031

>>9983028
stop being pathetic

>> No.9983033

>>9983031
Imagine doing a program that's 80% as difficult as MD/DO school but with literally none of the benefits

>> No.9983034

>>9983033
>Will be paid 100k when he finishes a 4 year degree
>Still whines

>> No.9983040

>>9983034
lmao

>> No.9983051

>>9983033
You will make like 120k working 9-5 at your local CVS and will have no liabilities or stress of a doctor. Stop bitching.

>> No.9983375
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9983375

What is the typical view of nurse practitioners from a doctor's perspective?

>> No.9983460

>>9983375
Brainlets

>> No.9983787

>>9983028
Imagine that cash flowing when you graduate? I dunno, do pharmanons get good pay?
>>9983375
I'm gonna assume you're a brainlet, if your actions confirm this I'll never change my mind, but if you prove it wrong you'll have my respect eternally.

>> No.9983812

>>9981978
>Things that hardly bothered my parent's generation are now commonplace.
Maybe because many people went undiagnosed or didn't have access to doctors back then. If you had schizophrenia 100 years ago chances are that you ended up getting exorcised by a priest rather than receive medical care.

>> No.9983842

>>9983375
brainlets with inferiority complex

>> No.9983902

Anon, pls, recommend me some good textbooks, guides, video on physiology

>> No.9983908

Leaky gut syndrome caused by grains dairy and sugar. Nighrshades cause inflammation. Histamine intolerance is something else I’ve been exploring recently. All of these lead to low grade inflammation and eventually chronic disease or autoimmune conditions.

>> No.9984084

>>9983902
the /sci/ wiki lists a bunch of textbooks

>> No.9984160

>>9984084
ok, but what about videotutorials?

>> No.9984239

>>9983008
This doesn't do it for me.
>>9983908
>All of these lead to low grade inflammation and eventually chronic disease or autoimmune conditions.
How exactly? From the release of proinflamatory cytokines? Immune complexes?

>> No.9984543
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9984543

I have been writing a 4000 word report on a finger x-ray with nothing fucking wrong with it and I want to kill myself. That is all.

>> No.9984570

>>9983902
Boards and Beyond, is great for abbreviated board relevant physiology.

Textbook wise; Guyton Hall's Clinical Physiology is great.

>> No.9984653

are there any surgical fags here? I've started my journey to become a scrub tech and I want to start doing whatever I can to prepare myself for being the best brainlet tool passer that I can be.

obviously learning all the tools is going to be a top priority, so I'm wondering if there's a solid "go to" or highly regarded site/tool/app. it's a two year program and my classes right this first semester have nothing at all to do with the field, not even any anatomy/physiology classes, which I will also take suggestions for when it comes to learning.

>> No.9984774

>>9983902
Constanzo's BRS Physiology is the GOAT. Cheap and versatile, would recommend.

>> No.9985017

>>9981946
It’s just par for the course, shitty methodology in medicine is incredibly common, if you start thoroughly reading journals you’d go insane in a few months. The worst part is that now a million retards will cite this as anon et al proved the connection between roundup and celiac disease and a new reality will be manufactured.

Regards a physicist before I went in medicine

>> No.9985022

>>9982004
Psych is more chill and robots will never replace you.

>> No.9985037

>>9982961
We have enough neurotic women and ”men” in the field already, if you don’t want stress, become an engineer or a programmer.

>> No.9985045

>>9983902
Boron is my personal favorite.

>> No.9985088

>>9983375
>>9983842
This, anon.

Most NP's feel the need to constantly prove how knowledgeable they are about medicine to every single medical professional they meet. In doing so, they unknowingly show how limited the breath of their knowledge actually is.

They are also the most likely people to lack empathy for difficult patients and complain.

Just don't be that NP and you'll be golden.

>> No.9985246

How hard is becoming an ER doctor compared to other fields?

>> No.9985279

>>9985246
compared to other specialties not hard at all because everyone burns out and does something else after like 3 years

>> No.9985473

How the fuck can I make my tinitus go away?

>> No.9985705

Docs, my dick doesn't work anymore. I've been dry for over a year and now I've met this girl and we tried to fickificki for two days straight but my little guy JUST WON'T GET UP. PLEASE HALP.

>> No.9985733

>>9985705
You have cancer

>> No.9985741

>>9985733
I don't care, I just want to fix it. I'm my mid 20s this shouldn't be happening.

>> No.9985743

>>9985473
fire a handgun next to your ear.

>> No.9985805

>>9981978
Likely because the people bothered by those problems would have died off as a child.

>> No.9985825

>>9985022
Doctors have a 0% chance of being replaced regardless. Robots so far are only good at connecting symptoms to disease. Also the doctor licensing cartel will protect jobs with legislation/lawsuits.

>> No.9985910

>>9985279
So that's why so many people are dual boarded in EM and IM.

>> No.9986420

>>9984543
Is that really necessary?

>> No.9986560

>>9984543
w-why
>>9985017
I see, this is the shitty research I've been hearing about.
>>9985473
One of medicine's unsolved problems.
>>9985705
>I've been dry for over a year
You were an alcoholic? Also can you get it up by yourself and fap?

>> No.9986671

>>9984543
I don't know if you are writing description of the finger or the quality of the picture itself.
But if its chemically developed xray shot there is _always_ something wrong with it.
There are books on it.

>> No.9987023

>>9986560
>You were an alcoholic? Also can you get it up by yourself and fap?
No. Yes. For being dry I meant that I didn't have sex for over a year.

>> No.9987058

I'm not looking for a diagnosis, but could someone here tell me what the technical term for harder heartbeats is?

Harder, not faster. They might even be at the same rate as normal, but more forceful.

>> No.9987101

>>9985705
I'm going to have to check for prostate cancer

>> No.9987123

Hey anons,

do any of you have any recommendations for a lowly M1 for electronic visual anatomy learning tools?

>> No.9987171

>>9985705
>>9987023
Depends. Are you anxious? Drinking (alcohol), eating, and watching a comedy is a pretty reliable way of shifting from sympathetic to parasympathetic. Feed and breed not fight or flight. Some allegedly "psychological" issues can be solved by purely physical means.

If you're calm, and you can get decent erections in private, then it's not a health issue. More likely you need to go on nofap. You may have raised your standards for sexual stimulation too high.

In the meantime, zinc with dinner and a discrete packet of cialis in your back pocket should make life easier.

Unless you have delayed ejaculation, in which case you have the same problem as me. I haven't solved it.

I'm taking citicoline to promote growth of dopamine receptors (so far it's just caused me to read books more efficiently and persistently), vitamin B6 to reduce prolactin, and yohimbe (because I don't know where to get bupropion or even yohimbine,) nofapping, and generally trying to keep it together. It's frustrating, because not ejaculating makes the girl feel guilty.

>> No.9987226

>>9987171
>Are you anxious?
Maybe, it's the first time I touch a girl in over a year. I can hide my anxiety pretty well, though.
>If you're calm, and you can get decent erections in private, then it's not a health issue. More likely you need to go on nofap. You may have raised your standards for sexual stimulation too high.
I can get full mast in the most random of places and it holds itself for a good 10 minutes. But since that failure happened he won't get up at all.
About the porn, I'm not even addicted to it, I would watch it like 2 or 3 times a month. I would fap more frequently, though, like once or twice a week. I already decided to stop it to clear up my mind, she also agreed to wait while I recover, which is nice.
>In the meantime, zinc with dinner and a discrete packet of cialis in your back pocket should make life easier.
My diet is already zinc rich, so I guess I don't need any supplements, right? Now cialis... I'm 22, I don't think I should be taking this kind of medication right now.
>Unless you have delayed ejaculation, in which case you have the same problem as me. I haven't solved it.
Definitely not that, I used to have the opposite problem when I was younger.

>> No.9988446

>>9985017
>shitty methodology in medicine is incredibly common
The question is why? I think people have too many possibilities to publish their shit.

>> No.9988488

Guys I dont know how fucked I am. The end of the year I failed a clinical exam and had to retake it to pass and it went on my transcript. I’ve known I wanted to do pathology or psych but how much does it hurt me for these two specialties?

Can I still do IM?

>> No.9988571

premeds fucking gassed when?

>> No.9988666

>>9988488

If you're USMG and have decent boards, you'll be fine

>> No.9988688

>>9987226
>I can hide my anxiety pretty well, though.
That's good for social situations, but physically speaking, anxiety and erections don't mix.

The feeling of discouragement may be the same thing as a fall in testosterone, with attendant lowering of sexual desire.

>My diet is already zinc rich, so I guess I don't need any supplements, right?
I suppose you should be fine if you don't have white spots on your fingernails. That would indicate a deficiency. But zinc is good for your health, libido, testosterone, etc, /fit/ is all over it.

>cialis
It's not very good for your heart, anyway. And if you're uncertain about using it due to the stigma, then it wouldn't improve your mood.

>> No.9988702

>>9987058
...Let me rephrase teh question:
Is a harder but not faster pulse a symptom of high blood pressure?

>> No.9988734

>>9985022
I agree. Do Psych. I'm thinking about doing psych myself

>> No.9988758

>>9988666
Shit satan, im fucked aren’t I? I go to school in London as a us citizen. Not a USMG

>> No.9988761

>>9988758
Another us fmg told me they don’t look at london transcripts as much only
Board scores. Fuck, how fucked am I?

>> No.9988763

What's the latest on type 1 diabetes?

>> No.9988766

>>9987171
How long do you have to take Citicoline to see results? Is it instant?

>> No.9988811
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9988811

>>9988688
Yeah, I think that I need to get closer to her so we both can feel more comfortable with each other.
Today we went to the theater and spent some time together.
>I suppose you should be fine if you don't have white spots on your fingernails
I have zero white spots on my fingernails. It's been like that for years now.
>cialis
I'm more concerned about the side effects desu.
Thanks helping an anon in love, brother. I hope I don't disappoint her next time.

>> No.9988944

What do you guys think about radiology? A lot of people claim it will be replaced by AI, is that claim shortsighted about the whole future of radiology? Also https://hbr.org/2018/03/ai-will-change-radiology-but-it-wont-replace-radiologists

>> No.9989116

>>9988944
it will be an adjunct. still need someone to signout and bear the responsibility

>> No.9989156

>>9987023
Well it kinda seems psychological to me. Performance anxiety.
>>9988446
I think it's funding related. You need to publish and then you'll get paid. No publications, no money. That's why you just regurgitate shitty research. You get paid and smart people will find flaws in your research and won't take it in consideration. Problem is when brainlets and halfbrainlets get their hands on said research.
>>9988571
I swear USAfags constantly complain about premeds. We don't have these in europe, are they that bad?
>>9988702
Might be. But sometimes in very healthy people their arteries are so elastic the pulse is just very well transmitted along them. So you can't tell unless you meassure your BP.
>>9988944
Engineers have been shitposting about this since forever and maybe they're right, but I don't think we're that close to it. Radiology is very well paid, not much strain and with modern protection health problems are minimalised.

>> No.9989225

What's the motivation to become a proctologist? How helpful is a pre existing fascination with asses and poop?

>> No.9989231

>>9988766
Yes. Well, give it time to digest.

It results in a state of introspection and calm focus. Not so good if you want to haggle in marketplace, but perfect for private study.

I'm around 65kg and 250mg is my sweet spot. Take in in the morning, or else you'll just quietly and calmly introspect with your eyes shut instead of sleeping. I know this because I once took it at midnight to see if it would effect my dreams.

It's worth pointing out that the key component of citicoline may be cytidine, which is closely related to uridine. Choline, the other component, is pretty common, in large quantities, in things like eggs or fish. Longecity.org is where I get most of my nootropic anecdotes and information.

I'd also say that it's good for nofap, but it doesn't work miracles. You need to keep a certain distance from your fap folder. If you don't fall down the slippery slope, then you often forget to fap at all.

>> No.9989235

>>9989231
...I should probably explain: it's as if it makes you less sexually jaded. You go back to finding bikini photos interesting and forget about your fetishes. This is probably connected to the increased ability to focus, the sense of persistent but calm interest in a book, etc.

>> No.9989247

>>9989235
...As for dopamine receptor growth, I guess that's gradual, but the unjadedness is pretty quick to come into effect.

>> No.9989321

>>At least seven patients in Beijing who doctors said had “no hope” of regaining consciousness were re-evaluated by an artificial intelligence system that predicted they would awaken within a year.

>They did.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/2163298/doctors-said-coma-patients-would-never-wake-ai-said-they-would

So when do we finally get rid of meat doctors and replace them with superior digital doctors?

>> No.9989595

>>9989321
>chinese """""""""research"""""""

>> No.9989686

>>9988446
It’s mostly just passed down. You start doing research in a lab where everyone does shitty research, all the journals are filled with shitty research, you go to seminars to discuss shitty research, you do it for others for 15 years and when you finally get to decide for yourself, why would you change.

>> No.9989706

>>9981946
how do you medfags keep yourself sharp and motivated? lately I've been struggling with a brain fog and remembering things becomes a challenge

>> No.9989807

>>9989706
it's not about motivation, it's about discipline.

you put in your daily work, and you'll always stay sharp.

>> No.9989809

What would be the top 10 specialties least likely to be automated? Or with better future considering automation

>> No.9989868

>>9989595
>racist """"""argumentation""""""

>> No.9989967

>>9989868
Chinese culture has absolutely no concept of professional ethics.

>> No.9989993

I just started taking anti-anxiety pills and they've just made me really depressed. Are depression pills just a meme racket?

>> No.9990008

>>9989993
What are you taking?

>> No.9990024

>>9990008
sertraline

>> No.9990066

Is phantosmia normal when you get a cold? I've had it nearly every time I got sick in the past three years or so but it's weird because I've never experienced it before that. It goes away when the cold does.

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9990437

If I have an avoidant asocial personality but deeply care about the quality of life for others, could I make it in the healthcare field? I am getting better at talking to people these days but it's hard to break habits ya know.

>> No.9990465

>>9990437
Social skills are extremely learnable. Especially if you’re actually somewhat smart. If you don’t have literal autism then you can learn to be social and even maybe enjoy it but it takes time and you have to want it. Drugs and alcohol help.

>> No.9990470

>>9990465
>Drugs and alcohol help.
Not really.

>> No.9990475

>>9990470
But I can't be using drugs and alcohol in my life with a profession where my goal is to save lives.

>> No.9990480

>>9990475
>>9990465

>>9990470
My bad

>> No.9990483

>>9990475
A tiny bit here and there to get you started is fine. I mean having a couple drinks in the evening with other people not sneaking drinks from a flask in the hospital, Dr Cox.

>> No.9990500

guys i have a repeat clinical exam test on my transcript as an img. i have a phd already but am i fucked? I didn't practice clin skills enough bc I want to be a pathologist :(

>> No.9990578

>>9983787
>do pharmanons get good pay?
Typically, but lucrative pharm positions are few and far between unless you're in a big metro area. You'll probably never find a comfy, easy retail pharm job because so many old hats stay there until they're 75 since it's easy on the joints and makes ungodly amounts of money. You might find hospital positions or spots in clinical research if you're leaning in that direction but I think by moving from BPharms to PharmDs as a requirement they probably want more people going into academia afterwards in some way or another.

>> No.9990591

>>9990066
someone answer this please

>> No.9990804

>>9983375

It depends on the setting. I work with an NP in a large clinic, and the NPs are great because they do a lot of the grunt work which makes me feel a bit guilty at times. But I am a bit envious of them because they are union-protected and their pay is really good for their workload.

The NPs in hospitals who have BS roles like "diabetes educator" or "Care Coordinator" are totally useless. They try to make their jobs seem like they are more important than they really are - yet nothing gets done by them.

>> No.9990821

>>9989809
Psych.

>> No.9990848

>>9990024
how old are you? do you have any suicidal thoughts?

>> No.9990982

>>9990437
radiology, pathology, subspecialty surgery, and anesthesiology sounds like good fields for you.

>> No.9990988

Where you guys life can you immediately go to school to become a paramedic (after highschool) or do you first have to become a general nurse first?

>> No.9991911

>>9990024
I'm not an expert, but I've done some reading on anti-depressants.

SSRIs like sertraline mainly act on serotonin. If you're not responding well to it, then maybe switch to something that doesn't deal with serotonin directly.
Bupropion (Wellbutrin) doesn't raise serotonin, so maybe in your case it wouldn't cause a depressive side-effect. Instead it raises dopamine and adrenaline, acting more as a stimulant-type anti-depressant.

I know this because I'm delayed ejaculation anon from a few posts back, and I was looking into something to make me more interested in sex. Because I am a massive degenerate, I've experimented with some serotonergic drugs, and interestingly, they cause extremely delayed ejaculation for the duration of the trip, and sometimes prevent it entirely. So naturally when I started looking for an anti-depressant, I wanted to avoid anything that raises serotonin. This led me to read up on yohimbe, yohimbine, and bupropion/wellbutrin.

I was also the one asking about a pounding pulse even further back, because I'm currently on yohimbe. 500mg yohimbe is probably enough to make jogging dangerous, let alone sex. I think the dose is too high, so I have ordered 2.5mg capsules of yohimbe extract (yohimbine). Also P-5-P to take the place of the plain B6 I've been taking. If anyone wants to offer advice or recommend anything, I'd be glad to hear it.

>> No.9992160

>>9986420
No. The textbooks have directions on evaluating the quality in half a page.
>>9986560
Assignment
>>9986671
By nothing wrong I mean no pathology. Even if it was an obvious fracture you still have to waffle on about the positioning.

>> No.9992191

>>9981978
Maybe hyper-mind-hyper body theory has something to do With it?

>> No.9992196

>>9985825
>Artisans have 0%chance of being replaced regardless. Factories so far are only good at turning materials into mass produced Products. Also the artisan cartel will protect jobs With legislation/protests
Fuck you luddite dog. Cant wait until your profession is reduced to meme-tier like all the other brainlet-sitting jobs

>> No.9992197

>>9981978
The world population doubled at a time when child mortality was dwindling to nothing. The weak have inherited the earth.

>> No.9992308

>>9990988
In 'straya it's a 3-4 year degree, assuming you don't kill yourself in all the ethical and communication theory in 1st/2nd year. But that's true of every health profession here.

>> No.9993075

>>9992160
based radiologist-kun

>> No.9993077

>medicine
More like just memorization and no critical thought

>> No.9993096

>>9993077
Eh, gotta know the material before you start making up your own shit.

>> No.9993171

>>9993096
I know it desu. I've studied it for 6 months. We're on Albert's the cell.

>> No.9993338

>>9981946
but anon, medicine isn't scientific

>> No.9993354

>>9985705
if you want, since you seemed opposed to using cialis, you can take a prolactin or serotonin antagonist and combine it with a DHT derivative and you will get really hard really fast. cabergoline+proviron. ive only used proviron, but i imagine the effects would be heightened with cabergoline. use it as a temporary solution while you figure out what the issue is. Improving diet and sleep could help(this is on you, different diets work for different people). also sunlight is actually really useful for erections, suntan naked if you dont believe me.

>> No.9993362

if i wanted to work in medicine but dont want to go to med school what would i do. For example, i was thinking of getting a minor in biochem or chem to complement my degree in math. my favorite subjects are andrology and endocrinology. physiology in general is fascinating

>> No.9993384

Guys, i went to london to do a phd and an mbbs. I failed the second year end of year osce and had to retake it and it is on my transcript. my plan is to go into path or psych. I have two high impact pubs so path is more likely. Path residencies wont emphasize the clinical exams in interviews, right? I can compensate with board scores, right?

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Brainlet here, pls no bully. I just started reading scientific papers today and I'm having trouble googling stuff because a lot of the elements inside the research papers share name with other things
>ex: Google tables, then wooden tables appear, Google P table (probability in statics) periodic table appears.

What do the little asterisks in tables mean

As in:

> Thing: 0.1***
> Thong: 0.2**
> ---
> * p <.05, ** p <.01, *** p <.001

Pls help I'm dumb

>> No.9993831

>>9993362
Hospital geneticists and physicists are not doctors. Clinical stuff related to physiology is done by doctors, you could maybe do some basic research.

>> No.9993940

>>9993384
Grades don't matter in medicine

>> No.9994020

>>9993499
Take an online statistics course

>> No.9994060

>>9989967
>implying american paper pushers and euros do

any fags in neuro that remember the batshit italian surgeon that wanted to cut off the head of a guy with MS and put it on another body?

>> No.9994072

>feel this twitching in my chest followed by massive thud heartbeat
>goes on like this for a few minutes
p-probably fine, r-right guys?

>> No.9994155
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9994155

what if I told you guys I went and got a PhD instead.

>> No.9994160

aspiring med fag here.

do your institutions look poorly on mcat retakes? im getting 511-513 mcat scores but want a 515+. i test in 8 days so im not sure ill have enough time by then.

>> No.9994163

>>9994160
I tested higher on my actual exam than the practice. I think practice exams are more difficult and the adrenaline helps with your perception. Most people I know got higher on actual...
>>9994155
I'm this fag.

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9994171

>>9982004
I'm a psych by heart but neuro it's really interesting: both open a lot of possible career choices, don't think only about clinical practice.
Study of the brain, in all its aspects, will be the last frontier of medicine

>> No.9994184

>>9983902
Unironically "manga guide to physiology".
Integrated with Guyton is perfection

>> No.9994312

>>9993362
You might enjoy Nuclear Medicine or Medical Laboratory Science, which are both degrees in their own right.

>> No.9994342

>>9981946
Didn't read the paper, but I have a hard time believing that roundup or monsanto is causing autoimmune diseases. Not saying it's impossible, but just that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

>> No.9994345

>>9982961
Medicine is easy. Getting in is the hard part. Getting a residency in something highly specialized like radiation oncology would be very difficult as well. If you go to a DO school, your chances are that much less slim.

Just about everything else can be easily gotten, although dermatology, orthopaedics, and a few others can be highly competitive.

>> No.9994349

>>9991911
You do switch, but you actually try 2-3 different SSRIs first. For some reason, the way we metabolize them and react to them is different for everyone.

Bupropion is usually used in conjuction with other things though I believe. SNRIs can be very effective for depression, but not so good for people with bipolar based depression.

>> No.9994368

If I want my kids to be hung, should I choose a woman with a big clit to marry? Aren't the clit and the dick basically the same thing?

>> No.9994372

>>9989225
Money? Ass stuff is pretty common. 3 members of my family have hemorrhoids, a lot of friends too.
>>9989321
this >>9989595
>>9989686
Fuck, I think I'm gonna stick to clinical work.
>>9990066
I don't think it is anon. What kind of smell do you sense?
>>9990437
You'll be fine anon.
>>9990988
Until recently we didn't have paramedics. Only doctors worked in ambulances. Last year or the year before that the first paramedic class graduated. And you can enroll as soon as you graduate highschool. I live in southeastern europe.
>>9993338
Where the hell do I post it then? /fit/? Hell no. And how are the 10 elon musk threads, the IQ threads and the other shit on /sci/ more science than medicine?
>>9994072
Just arrhythmia. Everyone gets these, it's dangerous if you start getting them frequently, start losing consciousness or it gets constant.

>> No.9994376

>>9994342
It sounded shitty to me as well, but I don't have that much experience with research neither gastroenterology, that's why I wanted to share with someone.

>> No.9994528

>>9994368
Penis size is determined by genetics, and prenatal exposure to testosterone. So just inject roids into the placenta and you'll have a big dicked son.

>> No.9994598

>>9981946
Hi guys. I plan on pursuing a degree in clinical psychology and a neuroscience professor I’m doing undergraduate research with has told me to look into schools with prescription privileges.

Since psychiatry seldom utilizes psychotherapy anymore, there is a push for clinical psychologists to be able to attain a license to prescribe certain medications in like five or six states. It makes some sense that the therapist who sees a client more frequently than the psychiatrist should be able to prescribe, and there seems to be a lack of psychiatrists nowadays. However, I’ve heard good opinions against allowing clinical psychologists to prescribe.

What do some actual medical doctors think about this? Any psychiatrists want to weigh in?

>> No.9994614

Is crisper gene therapy?

>> No.9994679

>>9994598
The lack of psychiatrists is real, most of the patient work is done by psychiatric nurses and clinical psychologists, my work mainly consists of figuring out the suitable medication and signing off everybody's work.

I personally don't think prescribing therapists are a very good thing, it makes a holistic approach very difficult. The therapist has very little understanding of medical conditions outside of psychiatry, fairly weak knowledge about pharmacology, again outside of the medications they are allowed to prescribe. I deal with a lot of patients with many somatic conditions in addition to the psychiatric ones, so a working knowledge of medicine is essential.

Clinical psychologists are good for therapy and assisting in diagnosis. The ideal solution would be more psychiatrists, but the field doesn't seem very attractive to many for some reason, even though the money and hours are good.

>> No.9994688

>>9981978
Wireless devices and other manmade EMFs. The alter OSP conformation, calcium flux (chronically increased ca2+[i] leading the increased NO synthesis and peroxynitrite formation. Triggering release of histamine from mast cells is also a common observation, the incidence of childhood asthma correlates with adoption of fluorescent lights and presence of high frequency transients and harmonics fed back into power lines. In lymphocytes, GSM mobile telephone fields damage DNA and nearly completely block DNA repair enzymes after a 1 hour exposure. The effect remains for the next 72 hours. This might well be due to DNA being a fractal antenna.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18839414
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2854769/

Broader review:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935118300355?via%3Dihub

Garbage heavy metal contaminated / nutrient devoid "food", pesticides, herbicides, aluminum and fluorine compounds, probably all also play a role. There are many things that come to mind.

>>9981946
Glyphosate has been well studied for a very long time and has repeatedly been found to be quite toxic at doses you'd encounter with chronic consumption. There is no "conspiracy", it's plain fact and has been for years. There's also the matter of endogenous toxin synthesis genetically upregulated in the plant.

Celiac disease is probably caused by certain processes which can be triggered and sustained by many agents. A low fiber diet will predispose for celiac, as will repeated antibiotic use or inflammation of the gut.

>while other papers I've read always say "more research is needed"
You'll hear that until the bodies are piling up in the street, every time, guaranteed. It's quite standard.

>> No.9994704

>>9994688
Not that I really disagree with your conclusion about EMF's, but Jesus that review article made me want to kill myself.

>> No.9994713

>>9994688
>and has repeatedly been found to be quite toxic at doses you'd encounter with chronic consumption
that's not fucking true at all

>> No.9994719

>>9994679
Okay follow up question: Is med school worth it to be a psychiatrist?

I am graduating this December and I will be applying next fall to graduate school for clinical psychology, or medical school. I had a rocky start as an undergrad (Mainly B's, some A's, nothing under that however). Over my final 2 years in advanced statistics/psychology/neuroscience classes I've maintained straight A's. I've helped with undergraduate research for over a year, and have presented at some undergraduate neuroscience and psychological conventions in the midwest. I have a lot of interest in conducting and presenting research and being a psychotherapist.

However, I have an insatiable desire to push myself in academia. I want to go to the next level. Being a psychiatrist is becoming more attractive than a clinical psychologist. I am an obsessive guy when I get passionate about something, and a few years ago I realized that my passion is school.

On top of that, way back in the beginning as an undergrad I dropped a chemistry class that had a horrible professor (ended up getting fired), and I only got a B in anatomy and physiology 1. However this was before I really start applying myself in school, and I could always go back and re take those classes. Would this be an issue if I wanted to go to med school? I also have a GF I am making long term plans with, and I have some friends going to med school who have been told that relationships should be put off if you consider going down this route.

I am sorry for the blog post, I've been really confused as to what I want as of late. I always find some comfort talking about these issues on 4chan of all fucking places.

>> No.9994721

>>9994704
?

>> No.9994737

>>9994704
>>9994713
Don't feed the schizo

>> No.9994740

>>9994713
Go on?

>> No.9994757

>>9994740
you can look up the summary results yourself on toxnet, it's free to the public

>> No.9994794

>>9994719
Who told you to tell us you have a gf you npc dog

>> No.9994837

>>9994721
Eh, just the normal cycle of research. Original research is something like "wifi increases lipid peroxidation laryngotracheal mucosa in mouses" and the review article presents this as " wifi disturbs sleep".

>>9994737
I'm not >>9994713

>> No.9994840

>>9994837
*lipid peroxidation in laryngotracheal mucosa

>> No.9994857

>>9994837
i dont think anon thought we were, i think they meant to address both of us at once

>> No.9994914

>>9994719
>Is med school worth it to be a psychiatrist
Yes. As for the relationship, if it can't take med school it wouldn't have lasted anyways.

The school stuff I can't really advise on since I've only specialized in the States.

>> No.9994937

>>9994914
>I've only specialized in the states.
I'm in the midwestern usa anon.

Did you take advanced chemistry classes as an undergrad? What did you major in for your bachelors?

>> No.9994967

>>9994837
The reason is that EMFs can yield pathological effects, but often are not, and in many ways cannot, be studied like a exogenous toxin.

An example. Sleep disturbance has been reported from many angles over decades, and from many countries. Henry Lai et al of University of Washington researched how pulsed 2.45GHz fields altered central cholinergic activity. It was found that the changes were blocked upstream via pharmacological inhibition of u-opioid receptors, which prompted connections with the 1950's Russian idea that most central effects were redox reactions secondary to field transduction by the skin. And this was evaluated for a while. Later it was found the the opioid system activity was triggered by activation of corticotropin releasing factor. This was a decade later. Lai published a review of this process, and the research on classical conditionability of microwave response, and microwave effects on drug actions (ethanol, dextroamphetamine, pentobarbital, etc). This was after his and Singh's (developer of the more sensitive version of the "comet assay") highly controversial report on double and single strand DNA breaks in the brains of mice, and subsequent study on working memory deficits. Industry (mostly telecom) and military (via Brooks airforce base) came down on quickly. The field was mired with manufactured controversy again. The review by Martin Pall goes into why in EMF study it's uniquely easy to make it look like you're studying something you're not just based on your exposure setup.

Anyway. A lot of effects are often lumped together in papers, there were many important symposiums over the last 60 years. There are reviews of the eastern European and Russian literature. You could and should write a whole paper on any individual type of effect.

The title alone often doesn't indicate the scope of the paper. A paper with a loosely related title may include one of the most comprehensive summaries of an area and history.

>> No.9994973

>>9994967
Also, Martin Pall may well be pretty well thinking "this shit has gone way too far and it's probably already too late". It's probably meant to be read by lay people and researchers.

>> No.9994978

>>9994937
I might have fucked up with my words, but what I mean was I got my M.D. in a different country as I am from Europe and only did my psych residency in usa.

>> No.9995005

>>9994978
No problem, thanks for the info anon.

>> No.9995069

>>9994688
Exqueeeze me, but the WHO has came out with an official statement that EMFs are harmless. This statement automatically made me question your other statements. I've dug deep into this, because of an argument I've been having with my dad about that shit.

>> No.9995110

>>9995069
Refer to the WHO's Environmental Health Criteria 16, 1984. Their disposition was pretty clear at the time, and they tacked on some fairly unsubstantiated and inappropriate comments at various points insisting that certain observations "must be thermal", when fields of that intensity both at that time, and modern day, clearly cannot heat tissue enough to trigger any response, non-uniform heating or otherwise. In vivo, ex vivo, in vitro. Whatever, the result is the same. Overall it was a solid and legitimate review, but that stubborn slant correctly indicated where they would head. And modern day, they did. You must remember that the WHO is a political organization. Several countries and powerful interests, including the EU, have invested millions into 5G R&D, and the 5G market is estimated to be worth over 10 trillion over the next 5 years of growth. You really think they're going to let that go? Yeah, right.

Further, if you look at the 6 person panel of engineers that control the WHO's EMF stance, 4 of them are active ICNIRP members, 1 is a former member, the other is affiliated with industry in other ways. ICNIRP is an industry affiliated NGO.

On a recent expedition by many scientists to appeal to this panel and highlight conflicts of interest, one of them wore an exposure meter calibrated to common field / modulation characteristics. The readings in that part of the WHO revealed no signals of any kind, aside from the faint signal of a cell tower at the periphery of the building. No active cell phones. No wifi. They know it's bad and exert control over their environment accordingly. They're Judas goats.
That review is here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5504984/

I will upload that WHO document for you, and include some other reviews by NASA etc of that time.

>> No.9995137

>>9995110
It was 1981 actually. This is a link to a a number of reviews and symposium proceedings.
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/dj875cd10yb72/EMF

Also,
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19810017132.pdf

We've known quite a bit for quite a long time.

>> No.9995158

I'm a hs senior, and I'd like to get into neurology, but I haven't studied biology. I have taken advanced chemistry classes. How can I go on to earn a degree in neurology?

>> No.9995161

>>9995069
Oh. Stated explicitly, I don't know where you've been digging, but you've come to an inaccurate conclusion. The bulk of the available data contradicts the WHO, ICNIRP, etc's stances, which are not scientific but political. A small number of those are genuine negative results, the rest are "it don't do nothin', no effect" literature pollution by industry or military affiliated labs. The corruption process has actually been documented by researchers who were approached this way, like Adey and Phillips of UCLA's brain research institute. All industry cares about is muddying the water so they can buy time to get people irreversibly hooked.

>> No.9995170

>>9995158
that's not how any of this works younglet

>> No.9995180

>>9994973
Martin Pall is a crank. Before he was blaming EMF for everything it was MSG.

>> No.9995184

>>9995161
Conspiracy theories belong on >>>/x/

>> No.9995193

>>9995184
It's not a conspiracy theory if it's right out in the open and fairly obvious when you're able to look back from 20 years in the future.

>>9995180
Invalidate components of his papers then. Publish a critique, a counter. Wait, nobody did that. In fact, his original EMF paper has been cited 100+ times, without anyone finding cause or means to criticize it. Not a common affair in this field.

>MSG
Source?

I've read everything I could find his name on. If he's talked about MSG I haven't seen it. If he's published on it, it's not indexed properly. You might be thinking of Blaylock. There's no real fault in his papers either.

>> No.9995200

what i can use for improving my sleeping? i have used benzos like klonopin and xanax but without results, zolpidem 2

>> No.9995215

>>9995200
-Acetylcholinesterase inhibitors like gotu kola, an hour or so before sleep. Makes me sleep more soundly anyway.
-Valerian
-Chamomile
-Kava
-Phenibut
-California poppy
-Vervain (verbena officianalis)
-Tulsi

Califorina poppy, valerian, and vervain make a good combination.

>> No.9995218

>>9995215
Also St. John's Wort and Scullcap.

>> No.9995331

>>9995170
How does it work?

>> No.9995344

>>9995215


hey doc, what do you think about lyrica for anxiety and stress?

>> No.9995392

>>9994155
Holy shit that's impressive
t. Scored a 512.
Doesn't matter though because I've already been accepted to my state school

>> No.9995516

>>9995331
Are you in the states or somewhere else?

>> No.9995714

Just graduated with a CS degree (regret) and want to go into drug development specifically for pharmacognosy, should I just pore over textbooks and try to brute force my way into a firm doing grunt work at first, or should I go for the graduate degree at Ole Miss, Washington, Rhode Island, etc?

>> No.9995715

>>9989156
>I swear USAfags constantly complain about premeds. We don't have these in europe, are they that bad?

They're usually so bad because they act as if they're cocky as if they're already in med school, and like 80% of them end up failing out of premed

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>>9981946

>Increase of celiac desease in recent years is due to the use of Roundup in crops.

Its not a crazy idea.

It doesn't surprise me, I got a degree in Agricultural science.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/

We live in a bat shit crazy world to be dumping this shit on our food supply. But then again do you know how much food would cost if they had to hand weed those fields?

But consider: the active ingredient is a plant hormone similar in structure and function to hormones that exist in all plants that do things like regulate growth.
>>9981978
>Things that hardly bothered my parents' generation are now commonplace.

Lets bring Ag into the discussion. It was around world war II that industrial Ag really took off. 100 years ago there was little use of anything created in a laboratory.

Today you might put pesticides in the soil before you plant. On the seeds. After you plant. After they emerge. Before they flower. During the fruiting. After the harvest. Fungicides, Bactericides, Insecticides. Some of these chemicals are very toxic. Glyphosate by contrast is fairly innocuous vs some of this other stuff. This shit is so nasty you have to wear a hazmat suit.

> increased risk to kidney failure in agricultural workers exposed to excess glyphosate occupationally

And what the fuck were all those chemicals? Those pesticides? What happens? They go into the environment. How many novel, unstudied chemicals have entered the living environment, let alone, the food. We know its in the food chain.

What I see here is a pre-existing condition that can become active and produce symptoms in a delayed fashion in patients that have a leaky gut lining. Cause and effect are hard to observe here.

tl;dr Epidemiology is hard. Celiac is complicated. Chemicals everywhere in the food chain. Eat organic.

>> No.9996182

>>9994688
>EMFs.
Not strong enough- but there are other reasons for turning everything off, too

>The alter OSP conformation, calcium flux (chronically increased ca2+[i] leading the increased NO synthesis and peroxynitrite formation.
Exercise does same thing

>Triggering release of histamine from mast cells is also a common observation
Sneezing

>the incidence of childhood asthma correlates with adoption of fluorescent lights
Coincidental

>presence of high frequency transients and harmonics fed back into power lines
Not strong enough

>In lymphocytes, GSM mobile telephone fields damage DNA and nearly completely(*) block DNA repair enzymes

(*) They found aberrant expression in a) a piece of scrotum tissue and b)mesenchymal cells from "adiopose tissue", in cell culture media... not exactly normal conditions

>> No.9996274

>>9996182
>Not strong enough
You mean the field? Transduction of signals well below the threshold of thermal noise has been repeatedly demonstrated experimentally as far back as the 1920's. More modern research has revealed calcium influx, and chronically elevated intracellular calcium. Refer the studies I've linked and following their citations. A number of models have been proposed to explain this, despite knowing the reasons changing very little in terms of the biological endpoints.

>Exercise does same thing
Within physiological bounds. Calcium pumps / sarcoplasmic reticulum are able to maintain proper calcium flux, and NO generation goes down the correct cGMP generation pathway, rather the generating peroxynitrite, H2O2, and so on, which rapidly depletes glutathione, SOD, etc.

Exercise does not do the same thing or take a comparable course. It is very different.

>Sneezing
No, elevated circulating histamine. Mast cells in the skind o release it, and opioids to a degree, but there are other processes at work. Histamine is a very broad signalling molecule.

>Coincidental
Not when you consider clear mechanistic links and the ability to induce behavioral changes in children by exposing them to unshielded / non-grounded fluorescent lights. The latency is reliably ~40 minutes. Histological analysis of mice exposed to standard fluorescent lights revealed cell death and clear neurodegeneration in a number of regions, but particularly the dentate gyrus. A commonality with mobile phones.

>Not strong enough
For what. Induction and heating? NO synthesis, calcium flux, and binding of various hormones is altered in ELF / VLF fields as weak as 5.6uT.
https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/481977

>not exactly normal conditions
Read the first link and papers from the others provided. Human lymphocytes were used.

Also a recent study found DNA breaks in ear hair follicle cells of human volunteers.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29667447

>> No.9996634

tfw trying to fight a dependant patient over his opioid dosages
tfw he is probably shooting up as well
tfw his gp wont put him on methadone

it's all so tiresome

>> No.9996636

>>9995110
That study is done by only one nut job whose claims were proven wrong. Found this with one google search. And why the hell are you citing shit from 1981? This is the 21st century. And this guy >>9995161 Holy shit please stop flooding the thread with the fucking conspiracies.
Also this https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/electromagnetic-fields-at-work-show-no-brain-tumor-risk/ now be gone.
>>9995715
I have colleagues like this so I understand.
>>9995831
Ok, question. Does glyphosphate acumulate in plants? Aren't pesticides on the outside of the plant and when we wash the fruit and veggies we wash out whats left of it?

>> No.9996644

>>9988702
sounds like you are complaining about palpitations. go see your gp and do what they say

>> No.9996817

>>9996634
the sad part is so many are on opioids for conditions that they've been shown not to work on in clinical trials. oh well, im sure they work well in some doctor's "experience"

>> No.9996818

>>9996634
why bother

>> No.9996820

>>9982253
Ebay or torrent books
That's what I did for MCAT
On a related note, I'm considering applying to UQ-Ochsner so we may cross paths anon

>> No.9996830

>>9985910
Don't forget cushy administrative jobs once your time is too precious to be a hospitalist or staff ED

>> No.9996835

>>9988761
Board? Like steps?

>> No.9996842

Don't eat medicine

>> No.9997082

>>9995158
>I'd like to get into neurology
Okay that's at least 7 years of study to even begin starting neurology
>haven't studied biology
Unless that's a solid pre-req for a pre-med science course you'll be fine. First year of science degrees are always catchup for the sake of all the international students who cheated their way in.

>> No.9997086

>>9996842
but what do i do about my diabeetus

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9998465

found this on >reddit... are pakis really that bad, peds anons?

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9998493

Let me tell you a story:
>>9982961
>How stressful Is being a medfag?
A lot.
>I want to be a radiation oncologist
Watching old people die is pretty stressful. You'll also watch young people die, that's stressful aswell.
>but I'm very afraid
Considering your autism I'd be afraid aswell.
>I'll get sued for malpractice by crazy people,
If you malpractice they die, that's why oncologists only get sued by the family members of the patients.
>Or I'll fuck something up and end up fired.
Considering your autism I'd fire you aswell.
>How easy Is It to fuck up In medicine?
Considering your autism...
>>9982979
>Ok, then how depressing It might be?
Considering...
>I am not sensitive when It comes to people dying,
Because you don't care about your patients... nor the diesase for that matter, I don't really know why you want into med school.
>as long as they are random people I don't know
We covered that before.
>Why are you so mad?
C
>why should I be emotionally attached to someone I don't know?
You shouldn't, nobody said that, you just sound so edgy I might die of bleeding.
>It's a different story If It's someone I do know.
That's edgy. It's okay to be a douchebag but a selective douchebag who also wants life to go easy on him? Yeah, too much for my taste.

>> No.9998499

>>9985473
Be more specific, if you shoot a gun to your head tinnitus will go away.

>> No.9998513

>>9989321
>Trusting chinamen
We all know it was just one chinese guy who lost consciousness seven times, the robot just ran DNA tests confirming the 7 patients were actually a single person, mystery solved.

>> No.9998890

What do you guys think of Physician Assistants? I love medicine but not enough to dedicate my whole life to it. Also, I like working under an authority figure. PA seems like a nice compromise.

>> No.9998897

>>9994160
Yeah, many do. The more retakes, the worse off. It's not impossible, though. I know a few students that bombed the first time and retook with better results and still got it. Elite schools will likely hold it against you, though.

>> No.9998976

I feel stupid. I can't differentiate between the heart and AV blocks on an ECG. The only one I can really identify is the Wenckebach Phenomenon with how distinctive it is.

>> No.9998980

>stuck in a rural hospital as a pgy1
>have to manage the acute ward and the subacute, paliative ward with one other doctor
>multiple dying patients
>can't spread myself thin enough to cover everything
At least today's shift is over

>> No.9998983

>>9998976
literal pattern recognition, how can you be so much of a brainlet

>> No.9999061

>>9998465
I think it's more a minority thing. We have a similar problem in gypsy groups.
>>9998976
AV blocks are tricky. I'm having trouble with them too, but I guess a little bit of practice we'll get there.

>> No.9999114

>>9998980
>start doing first clinical at chill AF place
>obviously I barely know anything but after a few days I pretty much know how an average day works and how the department functions
>would be fine to work just left alone with a textbook for occasional reference
>still have another 2-3 year of uni before I'll actually get paid
>despite most of the advanced training being on site and not costing the hospital anything
Frankly going back to university and being treated as a student along with the zoomer riffraff again is going to make me want to kill myself.

>> No.9999157

>>9981946
Given that energy is rationed among all bodily processes, increased exposure to hosts of viruses/bacteria (other humans) may exceed the immune system's energy requirements. Perhaps immunity has a ramping cost.

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>>9998465
How do doctors and other healthcare workers not just burn out or give the fuck up when having to deal with things like this?

>> No.9999636

>/med/ is still alive
based

>> No.9999639

>no hepatic steatosis
>brain looks perfect
>circle of willis is clear
>carotids are clear

amazing how much information you can get out of an MRI scanner in a few minutes

>> No.9999653

>>9989595
this'ing this

do not trust any research that comes out of china

>> No.9999659

how the fuck does anyone read ultrasounds

i'm a spoiled mrifag but damn i thought images would be clearer

>> No.9999801

>>9998983
It's the whole ratio, not a ratio, just random dropped beats that gets me.

>> No.9999811

guys what you think about new iPhone ECG reader?

>> No.9999819

>>9999811
I don't see how it could possibly be an actual ECG.

>> No.10000171

>>9996818
Hippocratic oath

>> No.10000203

>>9994978
did you do clinical placements or externships in the US before applying to residency? Or did you just apply with the board scores? you must have had US letters of rec, right?

>> No.10000281

>>9998465
Luckily, they get to freely breed the underage English girls.

>> No.10000906

>>9996634
follow up to this one
>needs a picc because he needs long term antibiotics because he has lung abscesses from his body
>get call from radiology "yeah, he's probably shot up this am, he's vomiting and has pinpoint pupils
>know he is going to use that picc to shoot more opiates into himself
>know he probably is going to get more abscesses because of abusing the picc

what can one do except write to his gp that he needs methadone? can't keep an otherwise well man in for 2 weeks for his antibiotics.

>> No.10001529

>>9999659
It can be very informative for physicians with years of practice. For newbies like us not so much.
>>9999811
You don't have to think anything. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25968916 They say it pretty clear here.
>>10000906
Can't you contact a methadone clinic directly?

>> No.10001535

>worst dementia patient I've ever seen
>was basically still sentient but unable to communicate and would have frequent bouts of confusion mixed with panic
>wouldn't stop crying
>still followed instructions during the procedure so it's not like they were completely braindead or anything
I'd rather die than end up like this. Worst part was they were in from a really bad nursing home run by a foreign company and staff which doesn't treat them like humans.

>> No.10001632

>>10001535
Is there such a thing as a good nursing home?

>> No.10001726

>>10001632
I think they exist but they're stupidly expensive and in a lot of cases would require relocation, which would be a bit much for a lot of these patients.

>> No.10001777

What’s the ER like ?

I’m in class to be a STNA, we’re in clinicals in a nursig home, which I don’t really care for. I got told I was lacking compassion, or not talking to the residents enough. This changes in the ER or nah right ?

>> No.10002311

>>9981946
Why am I not surprised coeliac disease is likely being caused by pesticide shit?

>> No.10002416

>>9994719
LOL! Why "GSM" and not AMPS, CDMA, TDMA, or OFDM?

Why should I believe cell phones are a problem but not a VHF radio from WW2?

>> No.10002421

>>9995110
Ooh 5G is eeevilll, but the Gs before it arent.

>> No.10002591

>>9981946
Is Medical Physics a meme degree ?

>> No.10002655

>>10002591
I don't think so but its more physics than medicine according to some guy who spoke about it at my uni.

>> No.10003650
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10003650

How much are sweeteners 950, 951 and 955 likely to kill me if taken several times a week? There haven't been any conclusive long term studies from what I can tell.

>> No.10003987

>>10002311
But coeliac existed before pesticides. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease
>>10002416
The body consumes radio waves easier btw, since radio waves are longer and the body acts like an anthena.

>> No.10004061
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10004061

I'm so fucking poor, autistic, and sick in the head. What the fuck do I do? Any appointment I make with doctors, psychiatrists, and therapists all have over a month to wait for. I need to talk to someone soon before I just fucking kill myself like I should have before. I need a form of medication. Alcohol and drugs aren't fixing a good damn thing. I'm so scared and don't know what to do.

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10004070

I'm going to be completely 100% honest with you, medfags, if i found out my doctor went on 4chan in his free time, i'm not sure i'd ever use his services again.

Because how the fuck can you honestly expect me to believe you give a shit about the hippocratic oath when in your spare time you go full Mr. Hyde?
I'd constantly fear that you secretly wish to harm me, sell me shit for your personal profit keeping me sick as much as possible, or have some kind of fucked up political agenda going on.

>> No.10004106

>>10003650

you're probably already pre-diabetic.

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>>10004070
>hurrr everyone on 4chan is evil

>> No.10004199

>>9993499
Statistical significance. Generally p < 0.05 is a standard cutoff for many assays, but varies depending on the field and type of correction.

In lay, p = 0.05 means there's a 95% chance it's significant result (i.e. two groups are different for some measurement)

In reality, it's the probability that you would observe this difference between two groups of patients if they were from one population, i.e. if they were not different.

It takes a bit to wrestle with this stuff, but proper statistical interpretation and experimental design is critical for all types of hypothesis treating and research.

>> No.10004232

>>10004106
What makes you say that?

>> No.10004267

>>10004061
Psylocibin my dude

>> No.10006057

recovering from stroke. left half of brain just started functioning 2months ago. there was brain decay on left half of my brain. I could feel it.

any advice?anything I can take

>> No.10006094

>>10006057
at least you can type. i would take it easy. what caused the stroke?

>> No.10006096

>>10006094
blood clot travel to brain. even 1year ago I could type and all but I was full on brain damaged it was disgusting.

>> No.10006098

>>10006096
what caused the blood clot

>> No.10006101

>>10006098
I was smoking marijuana daily. not eating healthy not exercising.

had b12 deficiency and coq10 def

>> No.10006103

>>10004061
If you're having suicidal thoughts go to the ER

>> No.10006105

I’m having flashes between hot and cold, my ears are conpletey stopped up with nary and inkling of letting up causing a massive head ache, and I’m coughing.
Also writing this from a feverdream infested bight so I stay sane.
What do to help pop ears?

>> No.10006112

>>10006101
you've recovered enough to communicate, clearly things are getting better. you just have to wait and allow things to heal. go vegan too.

>> No.10006116

>>10006112
and you lost me

>> No.10006118

>>10006116
go vegan. dont eat any animal products- meat, dairy, cheese. dont eat them. sit and wait for your body to recover. dont smoke

>> No.10006168

>>10006112
>>10006118
Fuck this guy. Don't go vegan, just eat a balanced diet and don't eat junk. Your brain needs proteins and lipids too.

>> No.10006198

>>10006105
Please help. I feel like Im breaking down. I keep shivering despite being under a ton of blankets

>> No.10006287

>>10001529
>methadone clinic
>in this town of 10000 people

rural medicine is very difficult

>> No.10006542

Ancient societies always saw disease as something wrong. But modern societies are treating disease as normal, because there is a whole industry that thrives on it.


One of the largest industries on the planet is pharmaceuticals, which means there is too much lousy soup. Every day, you have to add something to it to make it nice. If you are willing, we can make this into a wonderful soup, without external chemicals. Once your chemistry is in a fantastic state, to be blissful will be natural. That way, 70% of the ailments could vanish from the planet. For the remaining 30%, there are many external influences, which are not always in your control. But what you are doing from within can be 100% in your control.

If you are constantly creating a nasty chemistry within you, how is life within you supposed to understand you are seeking wellbeing? It will assume you like ailments and will give them to you. Some people may have a robust system that will take a lot of beating – some people will fall at the very first assault. But if you are poisoning your system from within through the thoughts and emotions that you generate, sooner or later, it will get you.

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>>9994614
No, but that is one of it's applications. CRISPR/Cas9 is a molecular technique that can create cuts in a specific sequence of DNA . If you target the Cas9 nuclease to a sequence of a gene that has a defect and then provide a template of DNA with the correct sequence, the cells DNA repair machinery will use the template DNA provided to repair the site of the cut. This will remove the mutation that was associated with the defective gene.

>> No.10006674

>>9995831
hey cool another agrisci
how concerned are you by loss of landrace diversity?

>> No.10007001

Do doctors get paid for how often they refer patients to diagnostic imaging, blood testing, specialists, etc.? Or do they lose money overall?
There's a doc in my area who may be sacked after 4 patients of his either died or became seriously ill due to his refusal to have patients go for MRI, C-scope, ultrasound, etc. testing.
If this was all over money, I don't see why this guy decided to become a doctor in the first place.

>> No.10007015

>>10007001
>if this is all over money
You’ve already answered you own question.

>> No.10007179

Just a random CS anon here
My resting heart rate is around 85BPM.
Should I go get myself checked?

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10007188

>>10004070
You're gay, anon.

>> No.10007196

>>10007188
>>10004193
How many people have you guys harmed?

>> No.10007212

>>10007196
You.

>> No.10007322

>>10007196
I harmed your mum with my massive 1" cock.

>> No.10007449

>>10006103
Great I'm going to a psych ward now. Thanks a lot asshole

>> No.10007493

How do I get better at explaining why I think something is the right diagnosis? I failed an exam twice because my explanation wasn't clear on why I picked it and what tests can be used to confirm the diagnosis, it's the only thing in my way to get my bachelors degree. Talking with patients and the physical are not a problem for me.

>> No.10007699

>>10007001
probably in a country without socialised medicine

>> No.10007793

>>10006554
how long before this is clinically used?

>> No.10007796

>>10007001
there are guidelines, you just dont send obvious viral gastroenteritis to ct scan

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10008012

Send this shit to universities
>>>/pol/185932848

>> No.10008050

>>10007493
>How do I get better at explaining why I think something is the right diagnosis?
You're going to die a virgin. Give an example so we can help you.

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10008052

>>10007796
>you just dont send obvious viral gastroenteritis to ct scan
Or would you?

>> No.10008190

>>10007015
The doctor ignored 2 patients with bowel changes, black stool, abdominal pain, and weight loss among other symptoms. Both are now dead after they eventually sought out a second opinion that revealed they had stage 3-4 colon cancer. He also ignored a patient with a lump in the breast, where the patient has since undergone a total mastectomy after another doc ordered a mammogram and ultrasound that revealed breast cancer.
Doesn't the doc have more to loose by not referring the patient who obviously may have something serious going on?

>> No.10008211

>>10008190
>bowel changes, black stool, abdominal pain, and weight loss among other symptoms
So he ignored the most obvious symptoms of colon cancer, is that what you're saying?
>He also ignored a patient with a lump in the breast
Not only did he ignore colon cancer but he also did so with breast cancer? How the fuck did he graduate?
His teachers must be rich because not even for a million dollars I'd get bribed for him to pass med school.

>> No.10008236

doctor please I need my daily dose, I don't have much longer

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>>10008236
Here you go anon

>> No.10008310

>>10008305
I love science and meth

>> No.10008370

>>10008305
THANK YOU DOCTOR

>> No.10008427

If you want to be a doctor they should make you hang out in an ER where people are getting really fucked up and almost dieing and watching the other doctors either handle it or freak out and fuck up before you even get to do a rotation
I've been to the hospital a SHITLOAD because I get seizures and I've almost died a ton of times and seeing the doctors get scared is some bad shit
honestly the dudes I think have the biggest nuts are the EMTs that have a shitload of experience and are not retards and know what to do or somehow must be prior military w/ combat experience or something
the other retard EMTs are scary as fuck as well you think they or the shitty docs might fuck up and kill you

also hearing/seeing say someone getting rolled in that got shot in the stomach and is screaming death is probably a pretty good indication of if you want to be a doc or not.

I think most people here are just in it for the $$$ and probably should have no fucking place practicing medicine or being a "lowly" EMT or nurse or any part in the hospital. Someone with true grit and balls of steel is what you need.

Not a bunch of reddit/4chan fags who will probably fuck up and kill you.

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10008456

<--- see this?
this guy should have been a doctor
most of you guys are wimps and would faint at the sight of blood

TRUE
GRIT

>> No.10008572

>>10007179
No, that's normal.
>>10008190
Sounds like a retard to me. I mean the clinic can lose money over an unneeded CT/MRI, but these patients probably had indications.
>>10008427
>>10008456
Some people choose low stress specialties that don't have so much emergencies.

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>>9994719
>I have an insatiable desire to push myself in academia
I enjoy learning but it doesn't replace nearly as much energy as it takes. I don't believe anyone gets a net positive enjoyment from learning, regardless of interest, and especially not in college.

>> No.10008602

>>10008572
yeah but those people have to do a bit of time in the ER and they shouldn't be there if they can't handle the reality of it
Also no people from questionable countries or backgrounds
none of that 2nd rate bullshit get those people the fuck out of healthcare
I don't give a fuck how well they did in the 3rd world just fuck off

>> No.10008604

>>9982139
David Sinclair has been a joke ever since Sirtris. He continues to be irrelevant.

>>10002591
Yes, it sounds like something you would major in if you didn't want to learn medicine or STEM but wanted to be an X-ray technician or something.

>>9981946
Shitty review of garbage literature. Most of the experiments described are nonsense.

>>9985017
Not like arXiv is any less full of irrelevant trash, though.

>>10004061
Clean your room.

>>10004070
I think I'd trust my doctor more if they went on 4chan.

>>9994967
Potentially based and redpilled pending closer review of literature.

>> No.10008613

>>9999819
Why not? It's just a single lead. Shit put your toe on it and now you have all 12.

>> No.10008617

>>10008211
>Not only did he ignore colon cancer but he also did so with breast cancer? How the fuck did he graduate?
He's an older doctor who probably graduated 50 years ago. He's likely on a power trip since he's often the only doctor available in a walk-in-clinic.

>>10008572
>Sounds like a retard to me
He likely is. Last I heard, the families are seeking legal advice.

>> No.10008631

Should I take escitalopram, which has suicidal thoughts as one of its side effects, to treat depression and OCD, if I already have daily suicidal thoughts?

>> No.10009065

>>10006198
Go to a doctor.

Regards a doctor

>> No.10009114

>>10007793
I'm pretty doubtful that it will ever be used clinically in adults. There are just too many cells in a developed organism to try and edit them all. The most interesting potential application is in editing sex cells (sperm/eggs) to try and correct mutations before they are propagated throughout the entire body of an organism.

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>>9981946
Can anyone tell if the amounts in this chart are accurate? Someone commented that they were not. Kinda afraid to use it now.

>> No.10009664

>>10009292
>source is a literal who website
Ok.

>> No.10009687

FUCK I'M IN PAIN I FEEL LIKE MY INSIDES ARE GETTING GRINDED IT STARTED OUT OF NOWHERE WHAT THE FUCK I'VE ONLY EATEN FRUITS TODAY

>> No.10009701

>>10009687
HEEELP

>> No.10009799

>>10009664
But are the amounts legitimate? They seem out of proportion do they not?

>> No.10010350

>>10009687
>WHAT THE FUCK I'VE ONLY EATEN FRUITS TODAY
Okay, press the right bottom part of your abdomen, above the hip. Does it hurt when you press or when you release? If it's the latter then you have apendicitis, go see a doctor urgently.

>> No.10010405

What do y'all think of Med Lab faggots? I wanted to be a family doc but realized I wanted to work to live and have hobbies outside of work. I'll be working as a lab tech in 10 months and I'm starting to have regrets about not even trying the MCAT.

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>>10010350
I went to the doctor and it turns out that it was just gases. 5 hours of agony for not being able to fart.

>> No.10010746

>>9988571
ay everybody gotta go through premedical coursework to become a doctor. but premeds who only talk about being premeds and act arrogant and superior to other people are obnoxious and won't make it to medical school anyway

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10011529

>can't figure out how many grams required for a 1 L solution with a concentration of 1 M
>it's the practice problem

Why am I doing this to myself. I was never good at math.

>> No.10011572

>>10007449
top kek. for your own good, goyim

>> No.10011578

>>10011529
>can't do basic chemistry
>wants to do the most important, complex, high pressure job where miscalculating a drug dose means a dead patient and a lawsuit

>> No.10011591

Docs and nurses, how much of your job is keeping people alive who should by all rights be dead? I don't really wanna spend my life keeping morbidly obese smokers, drinkers and drug addicts alive. I could always work in trauma I guess, but even then.

>> No.10011595

>>10011578
He wouldn't be the only one
https://www.bmj.com/content/310/6988/1173

>Around half the doctors surveyed were unable to convert drug doses correctly from a percentage concentration or dilution to the more conventional mass concentration. Replies varied by as many as three orders of magnitude.

>> No.10011632

>>10010405
its fucking hell. you want respect and a lifestyle? become a physician assitant

t. medstudent

>> No.10011730

>>9981946
>Roundup
Not contributing to thread, but I remember there was a study quite some while ago that stated, if an adult chugged down a gallon of roundup, one would, at most, get a diarrhea. Just wondering, if they actually made people drink it & what kind of people would go for it.

>> No.10011786

>>10011529
>>10011578
>>10011595
>First practical lab with a physics professors
>Tells a story about his baby daughter prescribed wrong amount of antibiotics once
>Spend the whole lab doing calculations
>It was actually useful

Meanwhile in chemistry
>What's deltaG and how you wont ever use it or even remember after the year.

>> No.10011866

>>9983902
Coztanzo

>> No.10011877

>>9990475
This is funny cause pretty much everyone in my class drinks, a good chunk are on adderall, and a handful smoke weed (including myself)

>> No.10012119

>>10011877
>This is funny cause pretty much everyone
Most doctors who work with patients directly have some serious substance abuse problems sooner or later, unless you do some intense sports as it's great for stress relief as well.

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Type 1 diabetic here with lower knowledge in med field than most schmucks
What's taking yall niggas so long for a cure???

>> No.10012212

>>10011632
I might actually do that after working in the lab for a few years. Thanks anon

>> No.10012260

>>10010547
>turns out that it was just gases
Oh god the amount of times this has happened.
>>10011591
The majority of IM is this. Basically keeping sick people less sick and living. Surgical specialties have it different.
>>10011730
Well this study states that there were documented cases of people that got sick from roundup, but I didn't actually bother to check them out. Other sources state that it's mostly safe. The more I get into research the more shit like this comes up. Now I realise how important is to be able to tell good and bad data apart.
>>10012134
Your beta cells in your pancreas are basically dead. Unless we find a way to replace them there is no cure. I've read about an artificial pancreas implant that releases steady doses of insulin throughout the day. Not sure on what stage of reasearch it is though.

>> No.10012627

>>10012134
>What's taking yall niggas so long for a cure???
We can't give life to the dead, that applies to humans or pancreas. Of course, humans aren't made of scar tissue when they die but the analogy fits.

>> No.10013094

>>10012260
There's a physician at my university, the University of Alberta, Dr. James Shapiro making revolutionary research into beta cells and diabetes. Give some of his stuff a read. Very interesting stuff.

>> No.10013100

>>9989321
>who doctors said had “no hope”
When Chinese doctors claim there is no hope, what they actually mean, is that there is hope, but you have to pay up.
This statement came from a webnovel, but I'm inclined to believe it.

>> No.10013106

why the fuck is it so hard to get into med school in Canada but so easy in the US?

>> No.10013123

>>10004070
>if i found out my doctor went on 4chan
You would be surprised then, that most of the 'normalfag' doctors are least skilled, most of the time.

>Have this rare and terrible condition?
>Too bad I was partying in Hawaii whole summer instead of learning about it
>And you know I've earned this trip, since I've done the bare minimum to pass all the subjects

>> No.10013574

>>10013106
>why the fuck is it so hard to get into med school in Canada but so easy in the US?
Because Canada sucks.

>> No.10014077

>>9982004
get some experience before you make that decision. They are VERY different fields. To put the 2 together makes me think you have no clue what you are talking about

>> No.10014090

>>9982253
not sure about au but for MCAT i just got a 100$ book set, studied like hell and got top2% score>>9982979
>am not sensitive when It comes to people dying
based on what experience? this is not hearing about someone dying on the news. this is watching someone die over months and you have to talk to them, give them bad news, be with them while they cry, etc

>> No.10014096

>>9982989
why would you want to be a doctor if you don't care about other people?

>> No.10014102

>>9983375
if they wanted to wear the white coat they should have gone to med school

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>>9981946
thinking of going into interventional cardiology - any thoughts?

> inb4 q3 call
doesn't bother me as long as I'm doing meaningful work

How much time is spent seeing patients vs. cathing?
I''ve heard that many hospitals are switching to having mostly supspecialized cardiologists rather than gen cards and having them take on more gen cards roles - is this true?

>> No.10014122

>>10011529
it's literally on the periodic table. units g/mol

>> No.10014144

>>10011591
there are tons of medical specialties that see many different patients
>>10012134
automated insulin dispensors are pretty close to a cure. you just have to wear the cellphone sized device. there are labs working on B cell replacement in rodents

>> No.10014195

>>9988944
there are still people working cash registers and driving taxis. don't worry about the AI meme

>> No.10014199

>>9989225
Gastroenterologists make big bucks with low risk. no clue about "proctologists"

>> No.10014209

>>9989809
AI replacing doctors is total FUD. there are still people working at McDonalds

>> No.10014211

>>9990475
having a beer won't kill you, anon. It takes a LOT of alcohol to cause major health problems

>> No.10014223

>>9994160
>511-513
not low enough for a retake. fix other parts of your app

>> No.10014694

>>10011529
>First week of molecular biology course
>Spent a week entirely on calculations so we don't fuck up the rest of the labs in our semester.

That's how it should be.
Also learned how to do quick alcohol conversions, which helped a shit load during the nutrition course where they wanted us to memorise the standard drinks in different types of beers.

>> No.10014698

>>10011591
>keeping people alive who should by all rights be dead?
>Work in trauma

Let's put it like this. If you're working with trauma patients, there will be cases where your job is to keep someone alive who should by all rights be dead. While the causes are different, the end goal is still the same right?