Stephen Jay Gould

[Anonymous No.8415465]

Why is this liar and fraud still taken seriously in the academic community?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/14/science/14skull.html?_r=0
http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001071

[Anonymous No.8415472]

>>8415465
Crowd psychology and tribalism via submersion in local social feedback loops fed by non-local sources.

[Anonymous No.8415534]

bump

[Anonymous No.8415537]

>>8415465

>attacking a dead man

lol

anyway, he was a good writer and came up with many interesting ideas. KYS faggot.

[Anonymous No.8415539]

>>8415537
>>attacking a dead man
He's dead but people still believe his bullshit.

[Anonymous No.8415543]

>>8415537
>anyway, he was a good writer and came up with many interesting ideas
but they were proven wrong
and he falsified data

murder yourself leftshit

[Anonymous No.8415548]

>>8415543
>but they were proven wrong

Oh yeah, all of them?

>leftshit

Oh I see, you're politically motivated. You can get off your soapbox about scientific accuracy then.

[Anonymous No.8415550]

>>8415548
>Oh yeah, all of them?
Yes.

>Oh I see, you're politically motivated.
So are you.
Don't try and deny it.
Gould was a fucking MARXIST, of course we was politically motivated.

[Anonymous No.8415558]

>>8415550
>Yes.

Well start listing them then, I'll wait

>So are you.
>Don't try and deny it.
>Gould was a fucking MARXIST, of course we was politically motivated.

whooooooah a MARXIST, he was MARXIST

and you're a FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.8415563]

>>8415550
>Furthermore, studies have demonstrated that modern human variation is generally continuous, rather than discrete or “racial,” and that most variation in modern humans is within, rather than between, populations [11],[17]. In particular, cranial capacity variation in human populations appears to be largely a function of climate, so, for example, the full range of average capacities is seen in Native American groups, as they historically occupied the full range of latitudes [18]. It is thus with substantial reluctance that we use various racial labels, but it is impossible to discuss Morton and Gould's work without using the terms they employed.

But the authors of the article are clearly MARXISTS too, how can you trust anything they say, /pol/friend?

[Anonymous No.8415583]

>>8415558
>whooooooah a MARXIST, he was MARXIST

Yes.

As a scientist, as you pretend to be, do you not find that disturbing?

It's the same as discovering someone is a pagan or a creationist. Obviously they aren't scientists if they believe in insane fairy tales.

[Anonymous No.8415584]

>>8415563
>But the authors of the article are clearly MARXISTS too,
How in ANY WAY does this invalidate their findings about gould's lies.

Also, their idea that it's all based on climate has no scientific backing.


Gould fucking lied.

Different race's skulls DO have different sizes.

Why do these OBJECTIVE FACTS make you so upset?

[Anonymous No.8415595]

>>8415584
So has anything other than this skull paper been refuted?

[Anonymous No.8415599]

>>8415595
Yes.

But it's not as damaging as this skull paper.

[Anonymous No.8415608]

>>8415550
>Yes.
Look at his work in paleontology, not anthropology, and try again.

[Anonymous No.8415611]

>>8415608
>paleontology
also garbage

once a liar always a liar

[Anonymous No.8415614]

>>8415465
This guy is a prime example of bias, and more importantly he is the pinnacle of human trash.

[Anonymous No.8415616]

>>8415611
>once a liar always a liar
not necessarily, there's a gap in your logic.

[Anonymous No.8415619]

>>8415614
>more importantly he is the pinnacle of human trash.
Fucking this

most leftists are like this

[Anonymous No.8415624]

>>8415599
Any examples or you just rambling about nothing?

[Anonymous No.8415627]

ITT: /pol/ gets butthurt and posts outside of their containment board

[Anonymous No.8415632]

>>8415627
4chan is /pol/

if you don't like it go back to tumblr

literally nobody uses the "containment board" meme anymore

[Anonymous No.8415633]

>>8415627
>posting about ethics in science is /pol/ posting

What's wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.8415634]

>>8415627
There's nothing wrong with living a socratic lifestyle, but I wish they would leave the ad hominems and charlatanism on their own board.

[Anonymous No.8415637]

>>8415611
>also garbage
Which paper specifically?

[Anonymous No.8415639]

>>8415632
>>>/pol/

Go home, your containment board needs you

[Anonymous No.8415644]

>>8415639
see:
>>8415632


Just because you don't agree with science doesn't mean you can make the "evil meanies" that disagree with you go away.

[Anonymous No.8415647]

>>8415644
He's not saying he disagrees with science, he just doesn't like /pol/ posters.

[Anonymous No.8415652]

>>8415644
>hurr i want to rant about libtards incessantly and complain about liberals in a way that is tangential at best to the subject at hand
>what do you mean "go back to /pol/"??? why do you hate science????

[Anonymous No.8415655]

>>8415647
>he just doesn't like /pol/ posters.
Good for him.

Doesn't change the fact he's factually incorrect.

>>8415652
>CTR is on /sci/ as well
LOL

[Anonymous No.8415656]

>>8415652
>HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY DOGMATIC BELIEFS

Go back to /x/ Shillary cunt.

[Anonymous No.8415660]

>>8415655
>CTR is on /sci/ as well
Thanks for outing yourself as a /pol/tard

Feel free to leave at any time.
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415661]

>>8415655
>Doesn't change the fact he's factually incorrect.
He never made any claims other than he thinks /pol/ is behind this thread.
Meanwhile you've put words in his mouth twice.

[Anonymous No.8415663]

KYS. This thread is a literal trash and it has no scientific discussion in it. This >>8415563 try is laughable at best.

[Anonymous No.8415664]

>>8415660
>Thanks for outing yourself as a /pol/tard
Thank you for outing yourself at CTR.

Have fun being a "Nerd Virgin".

[Anonymous No.8415665]

>>8415661
>he thinks /pol/ is behind this thread
This makes /pol/ sound like a boogeyman -- always preying on the poor little science nerds.

[Anonymous No.8415667]

>>8415661
>He never made any claims other than he thinks /pol/ is behind this thread.
So according to you he completely agrees with /pol/ yet at the same time hates /pol/ and wishes those evil meanies would go back to their containment board.

lmao

[Anonymous No.8415668]

>>8415465

Always personalize and emotionalize.
If you can't attack the idea, attack the person.
It's much easier and no one will notice anyway.

Thank you for your cooperation.

[Anonymous No.8415670]

>>8415665
>This makes /pol/ sound like a boogeyman -- always preying on the poor little science nerds.
Or you know, keeping us from having serious discussion. I see his point.

[Anonymous No.8415671]

>>8415663
>This thread is a literal trash and it has no scientific discussion in it.
Except for the fact we're debunking the scientific fraud SJG.

[Anonymous No.8415672]

>>8415664
>posting /pol/ memes
>"i-i'm not from /pol/ i swear"

[Anonymous No.8415673]

>>8415670
>Or you know, keeping us from having serious discussion.
Why don't you stop bumping this thread and go have your serious discussion else where?

[Anonymous No.8415674]

>>8415667
Not at all.
You're putting words into my mouth as well.

[Anonymous No.8415675]

>>8415671
>"we"
>calls this act "debunking"
No you're not. You're shitposting, that's what you're doing here.

[Anonymous No.8415676]

>>8415671
>Except for the fact we're debunking the scientific fraud SJG.
No one in this thread debunked him.
The Mismeasure of Man had already been falsified before this thread.

[Anonymous No.8415688]

>>8415672
>pol has memes completely separate from the world
global memes trigger you kid?

[Anonymous No.8415691]

This thread is a great example for why SJWtards need to be permabanned on sight.

[Anonymous No.8415709]

>>8415691
Not only permabanned.

They need to be shot on sight as well.

[Anonymous No.8415722]

>>8415709
>They need to be shot on sight as well.
I'm tempted to go this route, but would ultimately soften and just put them in labor / re-education camps instead.

The content would include:
-Philosophy. Epistemology, ontology, history and evolution of science, Atomism, etc
-Psychology, specifically crowd psychology, cognitive heuristics, social dynamics, fine group dynamics, all the relevant feedback loops
-Neuroscience. The mechanical "bottom up" counterpart to psychology. This is advantageous to understand philosophy as well.
-Courses meant to put people in situations where typical social dynamics are disrupted and any given individual feels like an outsider. Push things further to force people to function this way long term. Make them learn to hate everyone equally. Make them hate themselves and experience unshielded self disgust that cannot be offloaded or counterbalanced. More or less, brute force self awareness, awareness of others, and misanthropy. Learning to understand and move passed this will be key to their development.

I'd like to avoid drugging them, or inducing mechanical damage to the brain. Light drugs might be added to their food though.

After meeting a set of predetermined, but unknown to them criteria, they might be released back into society. Re-offenders get sent to a secondary facility. Those who cannot be re-integrated, or who re-offend yet again, will be executed by a method of their choosing. Firing squad will be the default.

[Anonymous No.8415731]

>>8415722
No need for labor camps or anything of the sort. Just put them in the cancerous establishments they force upon society like third world countries, ghettos or islamic populated areas. Soon they will either get gangraped and shot or got their face raped with battery acid.
Give them what they want and save mankind while doing so, it's a win-win.

[Anonymous No.8415736]

>>8415731
Hm, good thinking. They could be taught what the human species really is, and really can be expected to become, by force. Not only will they will understand firsthand, they will be part of it.

Good thinking.

[Anonymous No.8415738]

>>8415722
>>8415731
You're talking total crap. I've lived in the shittiest places of russia, totally described as:
>situations where typical social dynamics are disrupted and any given individual feels like an outsider. Push things further to force people to function this way long term. Make them learn to hate everyone equally. Make them hate themselves and experience unshielded self disgust that cannot be offloaded or counterbalanced. More or less, brute force self awareness, awareness of others, and misanthropy
and that almost made me a revolutionary-level commie. And I actually think there might be another 1917 here, since society is literally boggling in some places

[Anonymous No.8415741]

>>8415738
*boiling

[Anonymous No.8415751]

>>8415611

I once lied to over for a friend, does that mean I will always lie 24/7

[Anonymous No.8415755]

>>8415738
>I've lived in the shittiest places of russia, totally described as:
There are multiple ways to employ the same high level thing, and they'll yield different results.

>and that almost made me a revolutionary-level commie.
I fail to see a problem. Probably.

>since society is literally boggling in some places
I don;t know much about Russia internally, but haven;t economic sanctions trashed everything to the point where it's just elites mindlessly fighting with each other over who'll gobble up the most remaining scraps?

I'm curious. I'm learning Russian. I know very little about modern Russia.

[Anonymous No.8415792]

>>8415465
Psychic eyes...

[Anonymous No.8415798]

>>8415709
>>8415691
>/sci/ needs to turn into a safe space for my political opinions!
Fuck off back to >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415801]

>>8415798

[Anonymous No.8415803]

>>8415755
> haven;t economic sanctions trashed everything to the point where it's just elites mindlessly fighting with each other over who'll gobble up the most remaining scraps?
yes, sanctions have worsen it a bit, but the worst part was always gang of criminals in power, in 90s they've placed their people on every significant position (businessmen are their people as well) and ruined nearly every social institute there was. now there's an uncertainty who will succeed putin. And, of course, no one cares about people.

[Anonymous No.8415808]

>>8415803
*social institution

[Anonymous No.8415815]

>>8415798
>m-mm-muh black magic
Fuck off back to >>>/c/ancer

[Anonymous No.8415821]

>>8415815
What are you even babbling on about you 90-IQ /pol/tard?

[Anonymous No.8415824]

>>8415821
>Jamal is calling someone 90-IQ poltard
They let monkeys play with keyboards in jail now?

[Anonymous No.8415827]

>>8415824
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415830]

>>8415827
>>>/c/ancer

[Anonymous No.8415834]

>>8415830
Your link doesn't work. But mine does.
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415840]

>>8415834
I'll go there if they somehow start teaching anthropolohy and biology in political science classes.
Meanwhile, try this link until it gets you somewhere
>>>/c/ancer

[Anonymous No.8415843]

>>8415840
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415845]

>>8415843
Boy you libtards love shitting and spamming everywhere you go don't you? Get off the science board if you can't handle facts.

[Anonymous No.8415846]

>>8415845
>muh biofacts
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415848]

>>8415465
>le /pol/ bait
pretty sure this is a falseflag

mods

[Anonymous No.8415849]

>>8415846
>muh feelings
>>>/c/ancer

[Anonymous No.8415850]

>>8415849
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415851]

>>8415850
go away if you have nothing scientific to say
>>>/c/ancer

[Anonymous No.8415853]

>>8415851
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415855]

>>8415849
I have no idea why these college dropout SJWtards try so hard to insert themselves into a science board, then deny everything science puts on the table. What causes this type of severe brain damage ?

[Anonymous No.8415857]

>>8415855
>samefagging this hard
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415865]

>>8415855
who cares. let them cry themselves to death. we should just relocate them to ghettos to get gangraped and killed so they get what they want and we get some goddamn peace.

[Anonymous No.8415867]

>>8415865
>>8415855
>>8415845
Same fucking faggot
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415869]

MODS WAKE THE FUCK UP

SAGE you fucking faggots, have you ever heard of sage? Stop shitting up the board and bumping flame threads.

[Anonymous No.8415870]

>>8415867
>>8415857
>>8415853
>>8415850
>>8415846
>>8415843
>>8415834
>>8415827
>>8415821

Go away you sad little shitter. I'm bored of seeing you cry and whine.

[Anonymous No.8415872]

>>8415870
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415882]

Yet another thread where the SJWtard got severely BTFO

[Anonymous No.8415885]

>>8415882
>>8415870
>>8415865
>>8415855
>>8415845
samefag

>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415888]

>>8415584
>How in ANY WAY does this invalidate their findings about gould's lies.

It doesn't, just like Gould being a marxist has anything to do with his paper. kys yourself you dumb /pol/ faggot.

[Anonymous No.8415890]

This thread is just more evidence /pol/ should have been deleted years ago

[Anonymous No.8415899]

>>8415888
>>8415890
Why is this disgusting SJWtard stil begging for a ban?

[Anonymous No.8415904]

>>8415899

>b-ban this guy m-mods!

You're not in your hugbox anymore redditor

[Anonymous No.8415906]

>>8415899
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.8415908]

>>8415904
ssshhh...keep quiet peasent

[Anonymous No.8415936]

+1 to image limit, no contribution

Sage

[Anonymous No.8415963]

>>8415936
Awesome I can bump now

Stay mad your saviour got rekt