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21 y/o male here

I've been suffering from migraines for a few years (I get them regularly)

a few months ago I started having problems with the trigeminal nerve, haven't been to the doctor but the symptoms described trigeminal neuralgia perfectly (got it several times since then)

now I'm starting to have these weird pains all over my body, mostly in my joints, I feel like I was deteriorating or just fucking old, while I'm just 21

the reason why I haven't seen the doc is that I think they wouldn't even listen and think of me as a hypochondriac or something

but the pain is there and it's very real

is this even possible for me to have at such a young age? I've been contemplating suicide because I no longer can keep with constant chronic pain, it drives me nuts. and over the counter painkillers don't help on any of these

>> No.6030066

>>6030054
>the reason why I haven't seen the doc is that I think they wouldn't even listen and think of me as a hypochondriac or something

You are.

>> No.6030067

I have tinitus since I was 11~13.

>> No.6030082

>>6030054
Hypochondria isn't quite the word. What you have is psychosomatic illness. This is real physical problems, but ones that are caused by the brain.

Most people with such conditions don't accept this, and get diagnoses like Post-Lyme, Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Some people give and receive such diagnoses while accepting they are probably caused, initially, buy mental states.

I had CFS for ten years, it helped remarkably when I stopped thinking it had a cause outside of myself.

>> No.6030086

>>6030082
Yeah, fibromyalgia. My mother has it. And an ulcer from taking pain killers.

>> No.6030096

>>6030054
>the reason why I haven't seen the doc is that I think they wouldn't even listen and think of me as a hypochondriac or something
See a doctor then and get his actual opinion rather than what you assume to be his opinion. It's also worth looking into as certain blood cancers often present by chronic pain.

>> No.6030142

>>6030054
>I haven't seen the doc
Don't be fucking stupid. Go to the doctor. Tell him about the pain, don't tell him you've been contemplating suicide because of it.

>>6030082
>What you have is psychosomatic illness.
Jesus, you don't know that.

These symptoms could have any number of physical causes. Some of them can be conclusively diagnosed and cured. Others can be managed with treatment.

And nobody claims that migranes are psychosomatic and gets taken seriously.

>> No.6030155

>>6030142
>And nobody claims that migranes are psychosomatic and gets taken seriously.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01562026
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1526-4610.1977.hed1703125.x/abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22277516
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17230053
http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/content/51/5/559.abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21668386

i could go on

>> No.6030157

>>6030142
>psychosomatic
You probably don't know what that means. Stress is one on many triggers for migraine. Anything caused by stress is by definition psychosomatic.

>> No.6030161

>>6030155
>http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01562026
>Psychiatric Quarterly, 1945
Yeah, I'm not going to waste my time digging through any more of your "examples".

Telling a random stranger that his uninvestigated symptoms are psychosomatic and he doesn't need a doctor is the next best thing to attempted murder.

>> No.6030162

>>6030142
>These symptoms could have any number of physical causes. Some of them can be conclusively diagnosed and cured. Others can be managed with treatment.
bet you a dime to a dollar that it'll be unknown etiology and some diagnosis of exclusion like fibromyalgia, or some psych condition like depression (which is commonly comorbid with chronic pain )

>> No.6030167

>>6030161
Not "wasting time" researching more up to date links when someone's health is at stake is akin the holocaust.

Enough of your tedious hyperbole.

>And nobody claims that migranes are psychosomatic and gets taken seriously.
is demonstrably false. i'm so sorry if my default search links are chronological

>> No.6030170

>>6030161
Not the anon you're arguing with, but my doctor reckons my migraines are "emotional". Is he bullshitting?

>> No.6030181

>>6030167
Getting published doesn't mean you're getting taken seriously, it means you're being allowed to talk.

There are a tremendous number of terrible medical papers published and ignored.

>> No.6030184

>>6030161
Here's one from 2007

Conclusion: The results suggest that the personality traits and psychosomatic mechanisms of migraine patients may make them vulnerable to stress and less skilled in coping with pain. These traits correlate with dysregulated neurotransmitter systems which may also be part of the psychobiological components of personality, depressive disorders and migraine itself.

>> No.6030185

>>6030181
I guess you had better show me they were ignored then.

The one at >>6030184 has been cited 32 times according to google.

>> No.6030190

>>6030181
>Getting published doesn't mean you're getting taken seriously
>what is peer review

haha, are you a butt-hurt migraine sufferer who still feels a psychological etiology is somehow shameful or taboo?

>> No.6030198

>>6030190
Yes I am.