/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.15238704]

Starlink V2 mini edition
previous >>15235434

[Anonymous No.15238710]

Reposting some stuff from the end of the last thread

[Anonymous No.15238714]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1630654820565614593

[Anonymous No.15238716]

https://twitter.com/ajtourville/status/1630586615079792643

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he0-SP-BnCQ

[Anonymous No.15238718]

>>15238704

[Anonymous No.15238721]

are the v2 minis brighter or dimmer?

[Anonymous No.15238724]

Juno is doing Perijove 49 tomorrow. I wonder when is the next distant Io flyby.

[Anonymous No.15238749]

>Elon Musk is the richest person in the world again
he doesn't even try lol

[Anonymous No.15238754]

>>15238749
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

[Anonymous No.15238758]

>>15238749
>>15238754

[Anonymous No.15238766]

>>15238724
I am going to strangle every fag who insists on replacing the "geo" in perigee or geostationary
what are you going to do when you need to describe an orbit around some rock called X6-9N1G you retard

[Anonymous No.15238777]

>tfw Mormon church leaders guilt tripped Mormon NASA administrator into awarding Shuttle’s srb contract to Utah-based Thiokol in the 70s despite no real technical advantage

>tfw this wrecked American crewed spaceflight for half a century

[Anonymous No.15238781]

What would the world be like if Tory Bruno was the richest man?

[Anonymous No.15238784]

>>15238781
expendable

[Anonymous No.15238791]

>>15238766
Calm down, I'm just repeating what I saw on the list.

[Anonymous No.15238797]

>>15238704
That's a pretty sweet V42, I wonder how many horses it packs

[Anonymous No.15238807]

>>15238784
I don't get this reusable earth meme

[Anonymous No.15238809]

>>15238766
I’ve never really considered it too cringey, I think it’s historic and worthy of the name
t. someone vehemently against fags using the term ‘Luna;’ THIS is a problem

[Anonymous No.15238815]

>>15238807
this
the cost of using a planet "sustainably" more than offsets the cost of settling another one

[Anonymous No.15238817]

>>15238777
Holy shit there’s just so much damn trivia when it comes to space flight and the shuttle in particular. Always something new to learn

[Anonymous No.15238819]

>>15238809
>vehemently against fags using the term ‘Luna;’ THIS is a problem
t. named his dog Dog

[Anonymous No.15238821]

>>15238819
More like named my wolf The Dog and everyone else started calling theirs the same

[Anonymous No.15238842]

>>15238721
According to the claims about the full v2s in general they should be fainter. It's less clear for the full sized ones, if the improvements will offset the larger dimensions. They have no published any quantitative estimates. Should have some visual measurements a couple weeks after they reach their final orbits.

[Anonymous No.15238847]

>>15238817
go read A MAJOR MALFUNCTION. Good overview of challenger and the spicy parts - Mormons, politics, etc

[Anonymous No.15238851]

>>15238777
James Fletcher now has his very own planet, can you say the same hmmm?

[Anonymous No.15238859]

>>15238821
>The Dog
What a rad guy

[Anonymous No.15238868]

https://twitter.com/RocketLab360/status/1630690690496622594

[Anonymous No.15238872]

>>15238868

[Anonymous No.15238874]

>>15238809
If you say "Moon" in Latin it sounds more sciencey

[Anonymous No.15238876]

>>15238872

[Anonymous No.15238878]

>>15238876

[Anonymous No.15238882]

Pictures in the tweets incoming

[Anonymous No.15238885]

>>15238704
Based. Fuck astroonomers

[Anonymous No.15238887]

[Anonymous No.15238888]

[Anonymous No.15238889]

[Anonymous No.15238890]

[Anonymous No.15238895]

last one

[Anonymous No.15238900]

>>15238876
Does this means they will give up the helicopter catch?

[Anonymous No.15238926]

>>15238900
They will do modifications to Electron to be able to recover it wet. Next recovery mission in first half of this year will be a sea recovery of a modified electron.

[Anonymous No.15238931]

How are space suits manufactured? Like how is the fabric sealed with the metal rings? How is the whole thing sealed? (especially in a rear-entry suit)

[Anonymous No.15238943]

>>15238926
A shame they wasted resources into something that didn't work out.

[Anonymous No.15238960]

>>15238931
Old ladies sewing in huston.

[Anonymous No.15238964]

>>15238749
Except that he's not, that's just because tabloids aren't allowed to speak about the asset holdings of old money families like Rothschilds and friends

[Anonymous No.15238971]

>>15238943
Some errors are to be expected, considering that rocket recovery is a new concept and small rocket recovery has never been done before.

I prefer the marine recovery to the helicopter as it is way more robust and can be applied to 50-70% of Electron launches vs 30-50% according to Rocket Lab. Curious to see how electronics will fare after a salt water bath, they have already requalified engines coming from a marine recovery.

[Anonymous No.15238972]

>>15238704
>>15236903
they're so sexy

[Anonymous No.15238977]

>>15238704
These look so weird, I really can't make sense of what each part does. Like why is there a red stopper? It looks like a spaceship in a sci-fi movie that just works for bullshit sci-fi reasons

[Anonymous No.15238982]

>>15238931
They're not sealed. The whole "vacuum is bad for you" thing is a big hoax

[Anonymous No.15238983]

I'm a huge fan of the YEET train concept to get a simple meme rover to Mars. Why is this never considered? It seems trivial to set up with little modification needed, each stage expending as they run out pushing a payload along

[Anonymous No.15238984]

>>15238718
very based. i want to see a constant throbbing blinking mesh in the night sky at all times

[Anonymous No.15238994]

>>15236931
What's the fire that we see inside the fairing shortly after separation?

Anything flammable inside?
Thrusters to push the halves away from the rocket?

[Anonymous No.15238998]

>>15238868
>>15238872
OOOOHHHHH IM COMPOOOOOSITIIIIING

[Anonymous No.15238999]

>>15238977
>Like why is there a red stopper?
That's where you fill up the krypton tank

[Anonymous No.15239009]

>>15238999
these use argon

[Anonymous No.15239011]

>>15238994
Go ask reddit newfag.
It's obviously the fucking engine.

[Anonymous No.15239013]

>>15238977
Anything that's red is remove before flight. Those are covers for something I guess it's the argon thrusters but could also be some optics.

[Anonymous No.15239015]

>>15239011
Thanks chud

[Anonymous No.15239023]

>>15238868
>>15238872
>>15238876
>>15238878
>>15238882
>>15238887
>>15238888
>>15238889
>>15238890
>>15238895
who asked?
not buying your stock nigger

[Anonymous No.15239025]

How will we keep time and date in space? If you just use UTC time and date on Mars, it'll drift farther and farther away from the real conditions. I know with Viking they used special watches with delayed ticks to lengthen everything slightly, but messing with the length of the second sounds like a bad idea.
On Mars you could have a little pause at the end of each day, but that only works there.
If you use the final five digits of Julian time, it would work as a "standard" date and time, but that still ties you to the Earth day, and only gives you a date.
Another option would be something derived from Unix time. Literally 10 digits of seconds. 100000 seconds is about 1.1 standard days. If you shift the decimal place 5 digits over, it's pretty close to counting days. Eg the current date would be 16776, or 16776.24820 if you want the exact second

[Anonymous No.15239026]

>>15238777
Didn't the O-rings only fail because they were operated outside the spec for temperature, and this was a known quantity, and the launch was objected to, but in the end they decided to go ahead with it.

[Anonymous No.15239027]

Somebody PLEASE tell Branson to throw in the towel already

[Anonymous No.15239033]

>>15239023
>sfg - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.15239036]

>>15239023
oh sorry, I meant to post crystal porn
forgot what thread this was

[Anonymous No.15239043]

>>15239023
dumb nigger buy the stock

[Anonymous No.15239044]

>>15239026
He's holdin out for boeing acquisition

[Anonymous No.15239045]

>>15238766
i never understood why "periapsis" isn't used everywhere

[Anonymous No.15239049]

>>15238964
even if they were, it's hard to estimate how much they're worth

[Anonymous No.15239050]

>>15239025
We should start using metric time, then each planet has it's own local calendar. I guess Earth units would still be used for technical and legal purposes.

[Anonymous No.15239057]

>>15239025
>16776.24820
Looks like a stardate lmao

[Anonymous No.15239060]

>>15239033
>>15239036
>>15239043
rocketlab is a cope company and reposting 22 power point slides from last thread is a display of their irrelevancy.
reminder that picrel >>15238704 contains no rocket lab reaction wheels, star trackers or radios.
beck could just as well be fingerpainting with feces in his my little pony diary every time he utters the word megaconstellation.
they're a mega joke.

[Anonymous No.15239062]

>>15239045
Too confusing. With "Perijove" for eg it's a handy reminder of which planet the mission is taking place at. If you use periapsis for everything the ground crew will get confused

[Anonymous No.15239068]

>>15239060
I just looked at RL for jobs, they say MUST MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS TO THE T TO BE CONSIDERED!!!!!! which is retarded

[Anonymous No.15239070]

>>15239060
if you don't shut up, I'm going to make every thread from now on a rocketlab edition

[Anonymous No.15239083]

>>15239060
Just bought more stock,seethe more retard dumbass

[Anonymous No.15239104]

>>15239068
What positions were they? This makes sense for manager positions

[Anonymous No.15239105]

how feasible would something like this be on a scientific basis?

[Anonymous No.15239108]

>>15239104
https://www.rocketlabusa.com/careers/positions/spacecraft-systems-engineer-littleton-colorado-united-states-5467617003/

[Anonymous No.15239114]

1987-88 when the USAF had no heavy launcher due to challenger, Titan IV was looking to be as expensive as the shuttle and the Soviets were flying Energia led to some funny concepts

[Anonymous No.15239119]

>>15239068
>>15239108
Those mandatory requirements are not… unreasonable?

[Anonymous No.15239123]

>>15239114
>Advanced Launch System
Looks more like Advanced Space System to me

[Anonymous No.15239136]

>>15239105
how feasible is (You) going back to your containment board?

[Anonymous No.15239139]

>>15239119
no but you don't understand, anon may just play vidya all day and post spaceflight trivia on an imageboard but he is actually a genius and will revolutionize rocketry

[Anonymous No.15239155]

Would a colonist even notice seasonal changes if they lived on Mars a full year?

[Anonymous No.15239159]

>>15239155
in a concrete box? No
but there are seasons on Mars

[Anonymous No.15239165]

>>15239119
a bachelors degree, 1 year of aerospace experience and experience from satellite or spacecraft development programs
so you don't actually have to have 1+ year of experience from a development program, just general aerospace experience and the developmental program experience can be from school for example
I mean these seem kind of basic, somebody that has basically any experience from a spacecraft or satellite development program

[Anonymous No.15239170]

>>15239159
Yeah I can’t imagine it changes too much besides maybe seeing some cloud cover or something. But I was also thinking perhaps smaller changes like CO2 in the ground would change the way your rover drives or something

[Anonymous No.15239172]

https://spacenews.com/china-to-expand-its-space-station-international-astronaut-selection-underway/

[Anonymous No.15239177]

>>15239026
>>15238777
Yes. But it's very far downstream of decisions made for (petty) political purposes in the late 1960s/early 1970s. Most NASA proposals favored LRBs, but those had higher upfront development costs and NASA was under severe pressure to minimize peak development costs (at the expense of performance and operational costs), leading to the decision to use SRBs.
Given that everything else was in the South, it would've made more sense to locate SRB production along the coasts, or at least a navigable river, but politics said "Let there be Utah" and so there was Utah.

[Anonymous No.15239180]

>>15239172
> HELSINKI — China is planning to expand its Tiangong space station with a multi-functional module to enhance its capabilities.

>China completed the construction of the three-module Tiangong space station last November, realizing a plan first approved in 1992.

>The operational phase of the station began with a first crew handover late last year. China plans to keep Tiangong permanently inhabited for at least a decade with crews of three spending six months at a time in orbit.

>Already though, new plans are emerging. “We will launch the expansion module of the space station at an appropriate time to further expand the size of the space station and enhance its capacity,” Ji Qiming, assistant to director of the China Manned Space Engineering Office (CMSEO), told CCTV Feb. 24.

>The expansion module appears to have superseded earlier an apparent plan to send up duplicates of the existing three, roughly 20-metric-ton modules.

>The multi-functional expansion module will host six docking ports and turn the T-shaped Tiangong into a cross-shaped configuration.

> The added ports will provide redundancy and allow more spacecraft to dock at Tiangong than present. This would also help facilitate plans to allow commercial spacecraft and tourist visits to the orbital outpost.

> Ji discussed the expansion plan with Chinese state media at an exhibition to mark three decades of China’s human spaceflight program. He also revealed progress on China’s plans to land astronauts around the end of the decade.

[Anonymous No.15239181]

>>15239155
Perhaps they would notice through their machinery, mainly the higher consumption of energy to keep everything heated during the cold and some malfunctions due to the cold.

[Anonymous No.15239184]

>>15239180

>Tianhe, the space station core module, was the first piece of the station to be launched back in April 2021. It provides the main propulsion and life support systems and crew quarters for the astronauts on Tiangong and carries a docking hub to facilitate the arrival of spacecraft and further modules.

>Images from facilities at the China Academy of Space Technology (CAST), the maker of China’s space station modules, suggested that backup or engineering models had been developed and could be readied for use in orbit.

>The smaller, multi-functional module resembles some outward design features of Tianhe but would not require all of the core module’s systems and capabilities to be replicated. Its docking ports would however still allow for the arrival of new experiment modules to expand further.

>The country will also launch a co-orbiting optical telescope module, named Xuntian, in 2024. It will be capable of docking with Tiangong for repairs, maintenance, refueling and upgrades.

>In an adjacent development, CMSEO officials revealed that it is preparing for international visits to Tiangong.

>“We are about to start selecting international astronauts to send to our space station and carry out scientific experiments together,” Chen Shanguang, a deputy chief designer of China’s human spaceflight program, told CCTV.

>“Coming to China’s space station and taking a Chinese rocket to space requires familiarity with China’s spacecraft. This may have to wait until they arrive in China so that our instructors can train them,” Chen said.

>The move is part of China’s plans to use Tiangong to boost its international space cooperation and soft power.

[Anonymous No.15239187]

https://youtu.be/i5CJJArWmgo
homeless man explains all you need to know about booster 7

[Anonymous No.15239188]

>>15239184
>Many countries have proposed sending astronauts to visit Tiangong, according to Chen, who did not name specific states.

>The European Space Agency will not be sending its astronauts, however, despite earlier training exchanges with China. ESA Director General Josef Aschbacher said in January that the agency had neither the budget nor the political green light for participating in the Chinese space station.

>Meanwhile experiments selected by a joint program between the CMSA and the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA) could begin flying to Tiangong this year.

[Anonymous No.15239189]

>>15239114
>Space Transportation System
>Advanced Launch System
>National Launch System
>Space Launch System
Names as dead and uninspired as the souls of their Old Space proposers.

[Anonymous No.15239191]

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1629145713304297472

[Anonymous No.15239192]

>>15239184
why did ESA can the sending ppl to space china plans anyway

[Anonymous No.15239201]

>>15239114
Huh. Weird looking critter.

[Anonymous No.15239203]

>>15239192
>>The European Space Agency will not be sending its astronauts, however, despite earlier training exchanges with China. ESA Director General Josef Aschbacher said in January that the agency had neither the budget nor the political green light for participating in the Chinese space station.

[Anonymous No.15239207]

>>15239192
They don't perceive as much of a threat from China as the US does. ESA isn't ever developing its own crewed option, so they're stuck using a third party no matter what they do. To a lot of them, it didn't (doesn't) matter who that third party is.
When it comes to collaboration and agreements, China (and Russia) is more open and imposes fewer conditions than America does. It's like 21st century Interkosmos.

[Anonymous No.15239208]

>>15239191
So, they're advancing from the Mir '89 era to the Shuttle-Mir era.

[Anonymous No.15239237]

>>15239207
yeah i know that dumbo, I'm asking why they ain't doing it
>>15239203
laame, euros cooperating with everyone would be sick

[Anonymous No.15239243]

>>15239192
ESA has been cooperating with China in space since 1979. America draws the line at manned spaceflight. It did not have the leverage a decade ago, it does now.

[Anonymous No.15239245]

>>15239177
>games like KSP1/2 repeat these limitations for no reason because it was how they did it

lmao

but damn now I'm imagining a space shuttle that didn't stage SRB's so early and could actually use its large fuel tank to do more than just enter orbit and circularize

[Anonymous No.15239248]

>>15239237
ESA's ambitions always exceed its budget. The EU is trying to wake up as a geopolitical actor, and that's not going to be good news for EU-PRC relations. If nothing else, the various issues with Roscosmos dampen the enthusiasm for such cooperative projects.

[Anonymous No.15239286]

>>15239177
What’s the source?

[Anonymous No.15239287]

>>15239286
The Space Shuttle Program: Technologies and Accomplishments

[Anonymous No.15239289]

>>15238809
>someone vehemently against fags using the term ‘Luna;’ THIS is a problem
The people who eventually work and live there will call it Luna and you damn well know that

[Anonymous No.15239293]

>>15239119
Degree requirements are retarded

[Anonymous No.15239294]

>>15239114
>>15239201
Looks like an evolved Shuttle-C.

[Anonymous No.15239300]

>>15239057
>16776.24820
>Looks like a stardate lmao
You've cracked the problem that thousands of trekkies couldn't.

[Anonymous No.15239301]

>staged lander (aka "there is still fuel on the transfer stage")
>ssto ascent (probably hypergolic, since it also does the final landing leg)
IS THIS THE HOLY GRAIL OF LUNAR LANDING?
>https://spacenews.com/china-unveils-lunar-lander-to-put-astronauts-on-the-moon/

[Anonymous No.15239304]

>>he isn't on the secret nuclear orion hobbyists server where people trade nuclear secrets and design orion 'pulse units'
>>he isn't perusing illegally obtained soviet, USA, israeli, pakistani, and chinese nuke design documents and modelling software
>>he doesn't know about several new hobbyist developed nuclear weapons designs which are predicted to have much better yields than unclassified designs
>>he doesn't know about the junkyard orion design and how little nukes would need to be stolen to make it work.
>>he doesn't know about the list of countries where orion would be legal to build

[Anonymous No.15239305]

>>15238874
Then why do I get the impression of a fat, greasy fa/tg/uy speaking whenever I hear someone say "Luna" unironically?

[Anonymous No.15239306]

>>15238943
SpaceX put effort into parachute landings of the first stage and the fairings, neither worked out. It happens.

[Anonymous No.15239308]

>>15239294
The ALS/NLS/Shuttle-C designs all came from the same groups at about the same time

[Anonymous No.15239310]

>>15239025
Completely disregard the Martian year, keep everything Earthbound. There will not be farmers that use the Martian sunlight and seasons for a very very long time, so it doesn’t matter.
Keep the Martian day, just divide the Earth year into the Martian equivalents.

[Anonymous No.15239311]

>>15238943
Better to try (something that has a reasonable chance of working) and fail than to never try at all. The latter is how you get stagnation and complacency.

[Anonymous No.15239315]

>>15239294
Shuttle-C was NASA’s proposal within the ALS program. But the USAF didn’t want shuttle derived parts.

[Anonymous No.15239322]

>>15239287
Hurts to read what a sensible non-shuttle post Apollo NASA might have been

[Anonymous No.15239326]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1630687497196904450

[Anonymous No.15239334]

>>15239177
If only there was a way to move heavy, bulky things without the constraints of road and rail....

[Anonymous No.15239336]

>>15239304
nuclear bomb designs aren't anything special. the challenging part is acquiring fissile material and actually building them

[Anonymous No.15239345]

>>15238704
>>15238704
>pathetic...

[Anonymous No.15239360]

>>15239326
The good needs is they're launching another next flight with some employees on board later this quarter! And after that they've got a single flight planned for the Italian Space Agency! 2023 is the year they're going to turn things around.

[Anonymous No.15239384]

>>15239287
More Shittle dirt: John Fabian resigned rather than fly with a Centaur in the payload bay

[Anonymous No.15239389]

>>15239287
>>15239322
We were robbed of a bright present in space. Maybe we will be compensated with a bright future.

[Anonymous No.15239394]

>>15239384
https://www.americaspace.com/2015/02/08/up-against-a-wall-what-1986-might-have-been/

More detail on Shuttle-Centaur here

[Anonymous No.15239400]

>>15239301
>An implementation plan for the lunar landing stage with Chinese characteristics has taken shape.
what the fuck is "lunar landing stage with Chinese characteristics"?

[Anonymous No.15239405]

>>15239306
Sadge. I didn't knew they tried that.
>>15239311
I guess that's the beauty of newspace, even the ones that will fail in the end.

[Anonymous No.15239412]

>>15238809
>>15239289
>>15239305
M-O-O-N that spells moon, Laws yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTnKOLUGAtc

[Anonymous No.15239414]

>>15239412
crew is stored in the balls

[Anonymous No.15239416]

>>15239400
that's the chink equivalent of saying "first woman and next man"

[Anonymous No.15239417]

>>15239400
"With Chinese characteristics" is a phrase the CCP tacks onto everything to make ideas and concepts seem more uniquely Chinese. The tropemaker was "Socialism with Chinese characteristics," which was intended to differentiate Maoist communism from Soviet communism because the sino-soviet split had happened and the two were having a tiff. Now it's just a meme that keeps getting repeated in political circles to accrue more social credit for the speaker.

To no one's surprise this sort of landing architecture was proposed in some NASA back to the moon plan a few decades ago. To China's credit, it is a pretty good design.

[Anonymous No.15239426]

>>15239400
A riced-up Soviet design.

[Anonymous No.15239431]

>>15239417
Lol an LK lander expanded to fit two with a chinese flag on the side

[Anonymous No.15239520]

>>15239400
Drives down a fucking ramp.

[Anonymous No.15239541]

>>15239036
It's Krystal you stupid fucking cunt.

[Anonymous No.15239542]

>>15238931
While the manufacturing process for a space suit entirely depends on the design space suit itself, every suit will typically consist of the same layers.

The innermost layer is the pressure garment, which consists of a fabric impregnated with an airtight material, such as neoprene, which is then covered by more fabric which serves as a restraint layer to contain the bladder layer when the suit is pressurized. The pressure garment may involve bearings and disconnects, which are fabricated and installed into the softgoods such that the fabric is held in an airtight fashion (that is, very very tightly). Once the pressure garment is produced, the thermal/micrometeoroid garment (TMG) is fabricated. The TMG of a spacesuit involves several layers of material, typically aluminized nylon, nomex, and mylar, to minimize heat gain/loss, and protect against puncture. The TMG is not airtight, but serves as a protective cover over the pressure garment.

pictured here is an Orlan suit without its TMG covers, revealing its pressure garment assembly. The backpack-door that is used to enter the suit swings closed against the suit's hard metal torso. This closure is kept airtight by the closing mechanism keeping the backpack-door tightly pressed into the air seal.

[Anonymous No.15239552]

>>15239542
god it's hideous, I wish I had a few hundred million to make a spacesuit company that produces beautiful slick practical suits.

[Anonymous No.15239559]

>>15239552
Guild Navigator suits when?

[Anonymous No.15239560]

>>15239552
You very clearly have no taste in space suit design, and so I pray to God that whatever design you come up with never makes it to production.

[Anonymous No.15239591]

https://twitter.com/VirtuallyNathan/status/1630764387404492802

new miniature and portable dishy versions coming I guess

[Anonymous No.15239597]

>>15239170
Mars reaches temperatures considered regular for Earth during the summer.

[Anonymous No.15239604]

>>15239560
that looks gay and retarded, take off your nostalgia goggles faggot

[Anonymous No.15239618]

>>15239591
how can anyone else even compete at this point? lol, and to think that starlink is just a side gig for musk

[Anonymous No.15239619]

What are the coolest mineral species on Mars

[Anonymous No.15239625]

>>15239618
starlink exists so Starship has something to do and simultaneously extra revenue for mars colonization lol

[Anonymous No.15239626]

>>15239619
The elusive carbonates

[Anonymous No.15239627]

>>15239604
Let me guess, you'd prefer something like this? Something that's skin-tight and sexy, with le epic chest armour that does nothing, and an egg-shaped helmet with zero light attenuation to show off your pretty face?

[Anonymous No.15239629]

>>15239619
I dont know, but I'm sure it will be geologists walking on Mars who will discover them, not some stupid rovers.

[Anonymous No.15239632]

>>15239625
and he accidentally disrupts 10 or so more industries in the process, good for elon "order of magnitude" musk

[Anonymous No.15239633]

>>15239627
yeah?

[Anonymous No.15239638]

>>15239627
anyone with a brain would, yes

[Anonymous No.15239644]

>>15239627
of course, the current space suits are bulky pieces of shit

[Anonymous No.15239645]

>>15239627
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15239648]

>>15239559
Minimalism is for faggots. Fancy space suits when?

[Anonymous No.15239653]

>>15239633
Well, I'm sorry to say that life is not like a video game, and the reason space suits are so bulky and complex is because they need to be if they are to be reliable, functional, and safe. So unless you solve mechanical counterpressure technology, ultrathin metamaterial that is both bulletproof and completely non-conductive, and find a way to compress all the related life supporting devices and consumables into a package the size of a desktop computer, you will never get your sci-fi video game space suit. Space suits have requisites, these requisites imply bulk.

[Anonymous No.15239654]

>>15239627
What an ugly woman. Stick a hot woman in one and we got a deal

[Anonymous No.15239663]

>>15239654
That’s supposed to be a woman?

[Anonymous No.15239665]

>>15239627
>Something that's skin-tight and sexy
Yes
>with le epic chest armour that does nothing
It's a hard shell to protect attachment points for life support and house electronics. It has to go somewhere, and directly over the vitals is a good spot
>egg-shaped helmet with zero light attenuation to show off your pretty face
Yes. Visibility, brah.

[Anonymous No.15239667]

>A Diversity and Inclusion Plan is required at Step 1 (Section 5.3.9) and will be evaluated under the Scientific Implementation Merit and Feasibility of the Proposed Investigation criterion (Section 7.2.3).

lmao @ NASA

[Anonymous No.15239668]

>>15239653
Computers have requisites, these requisites imply bulk.

[Anonymous No.15239672]

>>15239653
spacesuits are hard

[Anonymous No.15239673]

>>15239667
where is this from?

[Anonymous No.15239677]

>>15239668
Most technologies don't scale like Moore's Law.

[Anonymous No.15239679]

>>15239673
This bureaucratic nightmare of a document

https://nspires.nasaprs.com/external/viewrepositorydocument/cmdocumentid=913916/solicitationId=%7BB260C6C4-4807-6B9E-1F14-8C86663D7DC3%7D/viewSolicitationDocument=1/NF5%20Draft%20AO%20for%20release.pdf

[Anonymous No.15239682]

>>15239679
>143 pages

[Anonymous No.15239684]

>>15239677
A simple lack of will

[Anonymous No.15239700]

>>15239653
So long as I can smoke a cig in it I'm happy

[Anonymous No.15239705]

[Anonymous No.15239710]

>>15239663
welcome to modern gaming

[Anonymous No.15239721]

>>15239627
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15239724]

>>15238716
>US can build RD-180's
that's interesting

[Anonymous No.15239738]

>>15239724
It's the AR-1.

[Anonymous No.15239744]

>>15239705
Fabricsisters have been awfully quiet ever since this dropped

[Anonymous No.15239752]

>>15239653
You were saying?

[Anonymous No.15239763]

>watching an hour of this jew fuck explain why his launches need to cost 400m when elons launches cost 100m

excellent

[Anonymous No.15239777]

>>15239752
that's not a space suit tho

[Anonymous No.15239778]

>>15239763
what video

[Anonymous No.15239781]

>>15239777
>No True Spacesuit Fallacy

[Anonymous No.15239782]

>>15239763
He gets so pissed every time elon calls out his little tricks lmao

[Anonymous No.15239783]

>>15239778
here
>>15238716

[Anonymous No.15239809]

>>15238716
I hate shelby so much

[Anonymous No.15239812]

>>15239165
Does /sfg/count as aerospace experience?

[Anonymous No.15239815]

>>15239629
it will be guys on labs on earth, on Mars we will only collect samples

[Anonymous No.15239818]

>>15239155
You'd notice the length of the day changing, about as much as it does here.
If you live in a transparent dome on the surface, or access such a place for farming, then you'd notice it getting warmer or colder, since the greenhouse setup would probably be normalized for median conditions.

[Anonymous No.15239819]

>>15239627
remember anon, this general is full of autists who just want to live their sci-fi fantasies, not much room for reasonable realism

[Anonymous No.15239834]

>>15239812
yes, you can be a consultant

[Anonymous No.15239835]

>>15239815
Maybe in the first three missions.

[Anonymous No.15239838]

>>15239819
>no goyim you can’t improve technology

[Anonymous No.15239845]

>>15239838
improving technology should be about improving technology, not about making movies real

[Anonymous No.15239849]

>>15239845
No?

[Anonymous No.15239852]

>>15239849
yeah.

[Anonymous No.15239857]

>>15239849
No. Technology is already pretty much at the limits imposed by physics. What's left is just minor refinements.

[Anonymous No.15239864]

>>15239857
Real question: would new physics benefit engineering possibilities or hinder them?
I'm not sure if relativity opened new doors or just closed ones from Newtonian physics.

[Anonymous No.15239866]

>>15239857
Lol

[Anonymous No.15239869]

>>15239852
No. There’s no reason to improve technology if it doesn’t amuse us. We have iPads just like Star Trek and we’ll have warp drives just like Star Trek. Cope

[Anonymous No.15239881]

>>15239857
no

[Anonymous No.15239887]

>>15239857
No

[Anonymous No.15239896]

>>15239857
Stupidest comment of the month

[Anonymous No.15239911]

[Anonymous No.15239916]

he cant keep getting away with it

https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1630475810070237186

[Anonymous No.15239921]

>>15239916
hard hitting reporting from business insider
https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1630754939327873024

[Anonymous No.15239945]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1630821312422871043

[Anonymous No.15239957]

>>15239921
is this finally the smoking gun that takes musk down?

[Anonymous No.15239962]

>>15239957
these fart sounds were the last straw

[Anonymous No.15240002]

I know it was impractical, wildly unsafe, expensive, heavy, and not all that reusable but it was cool and I love it despite its gorillions of flaws

[Anonymous No.15240009]

>>15239541
very interesting, face the wall

[Anonymous No.15240074]

>>15238716
Disgusting congress creatures

[Anonymous No.15240095]

>>15240002
Nothing else could reach its capabilities (except buran but that never was operational)

[Anonymous No.15240103]

>>15238766
Perigee specifically refers to Earth. The non-specific term would be periapsis.

[Anonymous No.15240108]

>>15239705
Which suit is that? I recognize the last one but not the others.
Seems like all the gas seals on hardsuits would be a nightmare.

[Anonymous No.15240119]

>>15239119
Where the fuck else are they gonna get that year of experience? beck faggot

[Anonymous No.15240129]

>>15239119
Meanwhile @ SpaceX building Starship with High school diploma or GED or equivalent

[Anonymous No.15240135]

>>15239136
How bout no tranny pedo lmao

[Anonymous No.15240163]

March...launch month

[Anonymous No.15240171]

>>15240163
2 weeks...

[Anonymous No.15240173]

>>15239627
Ngl why not, what's stopping it from that design

[Anonymous No.15240174]

>>15240171
Nope

[Anonymous No.15240177]

>>15240095
Yup no other spacecraft has killed 7 people at once. And the shittle even did that twice just to prove the first time wasn't a fluke.

[Anonymous No.15240185]

>>15240103
Do you really think people on Mars will use periares and apoares?

[Anonymous No.15240191]

>>15240185
the other anon said we will use pemis and vaginus

[Anonymous No.15240198]

>>15240185
Yes, and they'll use those terms for ALL solar system bodies because FUCK everything that isn't Mars.

[Anonymous No.15240201]

>>15240177
People are a dime a dozen

[Anonymous No.15240204]

>>15240177
Based shuttle?

[Anonymous No.15240205]

>>15240201
How much for 14?

[Anonymous No.15240208]

>>15240204
Is the correct spelling "ghostronaut" or "ghostranaut"?

[Anonymous No.15240209]

>>15240208
gastrointestinaut
*farts*

[Anonymous No.15240220]

>>15240177
>Yup no other spacecraft has killed 7 people at once
Small player

[Anonymous No.15240224]

>>15240220

[Anonymous No.15240244]

>my fucking twitter account reset itself
it's over

[Anonymous No.15240246]

>>15240244
user error

[Anonymous No.15240250]

>>15240244
Looking into it.

[Anonymous No.15240252]

what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15240255]

>aphelion
>aphermion
>apocytheria
>apogee
>apoares
>apodemetrion
>apojove
>apocron
>apuranus
>aposeidon
>apluton

[Anonymous No.15240257]

>>15240255
>apuranus

[Anonymous No.15240277]

>next road closure is for s24 to move to the launch site
we're close to launching... maybe only 2 weeks away

[Anonymous No.15240289]

>>15240277
Two more weeks you say?

[Anonymous No.15240291]

>>15240289
actually i just realized after making that post that spring break is in two weeks. isnt that when berger is supposed to go on vacation? he said the flight is likely to occur around then.

[Anonymous No.15240292]

>>15240277
Nope

[Anonymous No.15240295]

>>15240291
well known, it's called Berger's Law

[Anonymous No.15240309]

>>15240295
nah thats
>Berger's Law: If rocket is predicted to make its debut in Q4 of a calendar year, and that quarter is six or more months away, the launch will be delayed.

[Anonymous No.15240315]

>>15240309
>If rocket is predicted to make its debut
>the launch will be delayed
still true

[Anonymous No.15240318]

>>15240315
>If a rocket is
>launch will be delayed

[Anonymous No.15240325]

>>15240244
Twitter is broken in some way every couple days.

[Anonymous No.15240375]

>>15239542
How are space suits manufactured? Like how is the fabric sealed with the metal rings? How is the whole thing sealed? (especially in a rear-entry suit)

[Anonymous No.15240377]

>>15240375
It's easy in rotating seals

[Anonymous No.15240380]

>>15240375
kys

[Anonymous No.15240382]

>>15240252
by increasing gear ratio, you increase torque and reduce rotational speed.
if you get to astronomically large gear ratios, you can have a machine that spins like crazy on one end and stays practically still at the other.
at infinite gear ratio, the last gear will be impossible to move as force needed to rotate it would also be infinite and its rotational speed would be equal to zero
torque sounds a bit like talk, which is a lampshade of a common phrase - all talk, no action
I hope that explanation makes this joke more understandable.

[Anonymous No.15240438]

>>15240382
>at infinite gear ratio, the last gear will be impossible to move as force needed to rotate it would also be infinite and its rotational speed would be equal to zero
The joke ceases to function if you consider that a physically infinite gear would have infinite mass and would not be able to be driven by a finite gear. In this scenario the torque would be zero too. The joke requires us to stay at the conceptual level where a rotation of the driver gear produces immense torque, due to the infinite driven gear, but vanishingly small amounts of rotation in the driven gear.

[Anonymous No.15240452]

>>15240438
Is there some way to salvage the joke? Perhaps by altering the wording somehow?

[Anonymous No.15240455]

Do you think that Elon browses 4chan?

[Anonymous No.15240456]

with high gear ratio you could get high force at the wheels which would cause them to slip.This would only work at very low speeds obviously

[Anonymous No.15240462]

>>15240119
This may be why so many unambitious startups are formed. It gets a bunch of people a year or two of experience, that they can then use as an inroads to a company that might actually have a chance of developing something.

Beats trying to get into oldspace to work on a 20 year old design that won't fly for another 10.

[Anonymous No.15240463]

>>15240455
No

[Anonymous No.15240464]

>>15240129
I mean that posting is probably for any basic maintenance or construction at the facility like pouring concrete, building a shed and wiring a lightbulb. It doesn't mean they would be working directly on the rocket.

[Anonymous No.15240466]

>>15240464
>build technician (starship avionics)

[Anonymous No.15240468]

>>15240108
I think it’s the AX-1 and AX-3
Here’s a pic of a different one, MARK 3

[Anonymous No.15240470]

>>15240464
>It doesn't mean they would be working directly on the rocket
Considering the early welds I wonder about that

[Anonymous No.15240474]

>>15240455
No Elon makes me monitor this shithole for him because dumb posts on /sfg/ drive him into an autistic rage

[Anonymous No.15240478]

>>15240474
Maybe he should stop posting then.

[Anonymous No.15240479]

>>15239417
>To no one's surprise this sort of landing architecture was proposed in some NASA
More like from the Soviet since they pretty much bought it all up from Ukraine a few years back. I think they even got an entire LK lander.

[Anonymous No.15240490]

>>15239911
Kek

[Anonymous No.15240531]

>>15240455
He mostly just lurks in the g/fur and s/fur threads on /b/.

[Anonymous No.15240534]

>>15240464
They're working directly with the rocket brah.

[Anonymous No.15240551]

https://twitter.com/AlexSvanArt/status/1630896377176702977

SpaceX going ham mode

[Anonymous No.15240554]

not sure how to deal with the fact that 100 launches won't be achieved this year

[Anonymous No.15240556]

Delusional Tori really think there will be demand for his shitty Vulcan rocket

[Anonymous No.15240558]

>>15240556
There is in the form of Anti-SpaceX alliance.

[Anonymous No.15240564]

>>15239618
Starlink is really ramping up in price compared to other options.

[Anonymous No.15240570]

>>15239618
>starlink is just a side gig
Imagine 10M customers by 2030 with avg monthly pay of ~$500/m ($100 for consumers and $2500 for commercials). Thats $5 billion per month revenue. X 12 = $60 billion per year revenue.

That can fund Mars easily.

[Anonymous No.15240573]

>>15240556
There will be because muh monopoly, doesn't matter if other option is worse, but someone has to get the gibs.

[Anonymous No.15240575]

>>15240573
BO/Rocketlabs/Relavitity/etc etc etc

[Anonymous No.15240577]

>>15240575
I would imagine ULA got more sway in the government than others.

[Anonymous No.15240584]

>>15239542
>Installed into the softgoods such that the fabric is held in an airtight fashion (that is, very very tightly)

So they sew all the layers together and then those are clenched into the ring, which is air-tight?

Or they like, sew the edges, rubberize those few inches, and then put a ring on it that air-tights the whole thing?

[Anonymous No.15240588]

>>15239864
Even if we lived in a Newtonian universe and you could exceed the speed of light just like the speed of sound the rocket equation would still fuck you

[Anonymous No.15240592]

>>15240588
Just go faster lol

[Anonymous No.15240595]

>>15240573
do you know what a monopoly is

[Anonymous No.15240614]

>>15240592
A humongous mass ratio antimatter might get you to a dozen times c with a small payload but its hardly the Starship Enterprise

[Anonymous No.15240616]

>>15239700
>So long as I can smoke a cig in it I'm happy
Do we have a suit for you!

[Anonymous No.15240621]

wew lad

[Anonymous No.15240652]

>>15240621
I've noticed that soviet designs have this bulbous kind of aesthetic to them, similar to some french stuff (but also slightly different somehow? french stuff is more 'aquatic'). Was this intentional? Was there some kind of reason for this?

[Anonymous No.15240674]

>>15240177
>Blow up on live TV and with an audience in the bleachers
>Become a shooting star and disintegrate on re entry
Both extremely based and dramatic ways to go, also the CAIB, crew survival report, and Loss of Signal are all kino

[Anonymous No.15240679]

>>15240220
There was also that russian rocket where someone accidentally stage 2 while it was still on the pad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedelin_catastrophe?useskin=vector

[Anonymous No.15240684]

>>15240616
Holy SHIT

[Anonymous No.15240692]

>>15239864
>>15240588
Idk but the standard model is insane so if we could learn to manipulate insane amounts of energy safely in a relatively compact and light manner we could probably get somehting out of it

[Anonymous No.15240693]

>>15240616
What does he do with his other arm?

[Anonymous No.15240708]

>>15240652
Soviets/Russians have always been retarded at designing pressure vessels, so pretty everything is made of perfect spheres put together and then encased in a jacket.

[Anonymous No.15240714]

>>15240684
What's the problem?

[Anonymous No.15240717]

>>15240556
>blocks your path

[Anonymous No.15240719]

>>15240464
bro it's a job for building a computer that goes into a rocket
you just plug the mobo and hard drive in

[Anonymous No.15240739]

>>15240674
source on these? I can only find CAIB.

[Anonymous No.15240745]

>>15240739
Loss of signal you can find on archive.org I think, it's a couple hundred pages

[Anonymous No.15240746]

>>15240739
https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/298870main_SP-2008-565.pdf
https://www.asma.org/asma/media/asma/Travel-Publications/NASA%20Shuttle/SP-2014-616.pdf

[Anonymous No.15240747]

>Mikhail Tsiferov's underground rocket:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_rocket
>This is essentially a rocket-powered drill, with gas jets from clearing debris from the nose.
>It demonstrated drilling speeds of 100m/min in soil, or 5m/min in solid rock.
https://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1630613804152393728
Why doesn't Elon do this? He could have SpaceX/Boring Company synergy

[Anonymous No.15240760]

>>15239962
Elon is all about promoting methane these days

[Anonymous No.15240791]

>>15238749
>who is MBS?

[Anonymous No.15240796]

>>15240717
there are some illegal things going on there, if there weren't, they'd be launching Kuipier on F9

[Anonymous No.15240798]

>>15238749
Meaningless fluctuations of purely hypothetical money, which is backed by literally nothing.

[Anonymous No.15240802]

>15240798
>Same dude that doesn't believe the efficient market hypothesis

[Anonymous No.15240803]

>>15240129
Technician job vs an development engineer
This guy isnt going to be designing anything

[Anonymous No.15240816]

>>15240803
Now what?

[Anonymous No.15240824]

>>15240584
Typically a space suit will be made in segments, such as if these segments are held together by bearings. So except for suits with next to no bearings, like the Mercury and Gemini suits, most space suits will not be sewn in all one piece, but instead sewn into their individual segments, whose ends are clamped into a metal bearing (which is likely held tightly together by screws or, in some cases, glue). The bearing itself will have seal lips inside of it so that when one bearing connects with the other (say you're assembling the lower arm segment to the shoulder segment), that connection is airtight.

[Anonymous No.15240827]

I want to believe in Radian, but I checked their LinkedIn and half of their employees are either VCs or strategy guys.

And they said they wanted test flights in 2025. Lol

[Anonymous No.15240830]

>>15240584
also, perhaps this illustrates things better. Here is are the layers of a STS EMU glove. The airtight bladder is clamped into the wrist bearing. The restraint layer goes on top of the bladder, and is also fixed to the wrist bearing (though in a load-bearing fashion, rather than an airtight one). Then of course the outer TMG gloves will be worn atop everything else when its time to do EVA.

[Anonymous No.15240834]

If NASA wanted progress they would build this

[Anonymous No.15240845]

>>15240824
suit-pussy

[Anonymous No.15240846]

>>15240816
That has nothing about the technician designing anything
Its building what the engineer designs, but working closely, i guess the technicians input will be taken into account if it actually makes sense

[Anonymous No.15240862]

>>15240845
sussy

[Anonymous No.15240870]

>>15239752
As much as the Mercury suits were incredibly sexy, they would struggle to provide any consistently comfortable or dependable experience. The best we got in terms of being this lightweight and sleek were the Gemini suits, which themselves had a host of problems you wouldn't find in, say, an A7L. I definitely would vouch that a Gemini suit could be brought up to competitive standards with a few minor adjustments, such as opting for a closed-loop cooling system, a dedicated PLSS, and improved thermal protection, particularly on the boots to accommodate planetary exploration.

[Anonymous No.15240904]

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/03/sources-say-prominent-us-rocket-maker-united-launch-alliance-is-up-for-sale/
>One of the world's most important rocket companies, United Launch Alliance, may be sold later this year.
>The potential sale has not been disclosed publicly, but three sources confirmed to Ars that potential buyers have been contacted about the opportunity. These sources said a deal is expected to be closed before the end of this year and that investment firm Morgan Stanley and consulting firm Bain & Company are managing the transaction.
WHAT

[Anonymous No.15240912]

>>15240904
Lockmart and Boing getting rid of the trash

[Anonymous No.15240915]

>>15240904
That took long. It's about time.

[Anonymous No.15240917]

>>15240904
OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.15240919]

>>15240904
>ULA may be sold later this year

I'M SORRY

W H A T

[Anonymous No.15240920]

>>15240904
Is Jeff about to pay up?

[Anonymous No.15240925]

>>15240904
Holy shit Elon really did win

[Anonymous No.15240929]

The emergence of SpaceX in the early 2010s with the increasingly reliable Falcon 9 rocket started to disrupt this profitable arrangement. SpaceX sold the Falcon 9 rocket at a substantial discount to ULA's Atlas V and Delta IV rockets. The company also successfully sued the US government to allow the Falcon 9 rocket to compete for national security missions, and SpaceX launched its first one in 2017.

In recent years, SpaceX has come to dominate United Launch Alliance in terms of cadence. By the end of 2022, the upstart was launching as many rockets each month as ULA launched during a calendar year. During the last four years, in fact, SpaceX has landed more rockets than ULA has launched during its existence.

[Anonymous No.15240930]

>>15240904
BAIN?

[Anonymous No.15240933]

>>15240930
Kek

[Anonymous No.15240935]

inb4 ULA gets bought by a random holding company and nothing changes

[Anonymous No.15240939]

>>15240920
Bill gates entered the game

[Anonymous No.15240942]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1630974915674243082


HOT OFF THE PRESS!!!

[Anonymous No.15240950]

who would wanna buy a company going under?

[Anonymous No.15240951]

>>15240935
It'd mean that Tory isn't wearing two leashes anymore and ULA could make longer term decisions without having to get dual approval from Mommy Boeing and Daddy Lockheed first. That alone would be a pretty tremendous advantage since those two have never really wanted to commit to something the other might profit from.

[Anonymous No.15240966]

>>15240904
ITS OVER ULA IS FINISHED

[Anonymous No.15240968]

>>15240904
ULAchads?

[Anonymous No.15240972]

>>15240950
Out of any launch company worth purchasing right now, ULA is second only to SX. It’s a pretty damn good buy considering their portfolio. Even better than rocket lab or blue origin

[Anonymous No.15240976]

>/sfg/ fundraises the money
>buys ULA
>redesigns Vulcan so that it flies as much as Falcon 9 while still using BE-4s
>Bottleneck Jeff into oblivion

[Anonymous No.15240979]

>>15240951
oh wow, so its a good thring in the end?

[Anonymous No.15240982]

>>15240950
Bezos

[Anonymous No.15240983]

What becomes of the ULA snipers now?

[Anonymous No.15240984]

>>15240942
>>15240904
gg slowpoke

[Anonymous No.15240985]

source: trust me bro

[Anonymous No.15240986]

>>15240979
Are there any potential bad outcomes? It's not like a potential buyer would scrap Vulcan, at least not until there's something else to replace it.

[Anonymous No.15240989]

>>15240904
Not surprising. Boeing in particular is imploding as the accountants leading it are strangling it to death. Makes sense for them to ditch the oldspace dead cash cow now that they have lost the competitive edge against cheap launchers.

[Anonymous No.15241000]

>>15240920
>>15240982
>be BO
>needs to be nationally humiliated to put down $3B for a lunar lander
>but would spend probably $10B on a launch capability that mostly mirrors New Glenn
I would laugh so hard

[Anonymous No.15241009]

>>15240983
They are sellswords now, loyal to the highest bidder

[Anonymous No.15241025]

>>15240904
LMFAOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15241027]

>>15240904
do they have any relevant tech that another company could use? whats the point of buying a company that is on its way to bankruptcy/zombie mode
someone said that the reason for them existing is dissimilar redundancy, but there are numerous newspace companies that will disrupt them other than SpaceX and then that argument doesn't hold water anymore
rocketlab is probably the biggest upcoming threat?

[Anonymous No.15241030]

>>15240979
Getting rid of the dual-monarchy is probably the best thing that's happened to ULA since its creation. Sole ownership by Lockheed would be good, and a buyout by Northrop would be pretty good too. Someone like L3Harris wouldn't be great but it'd still be a big improvement. The suggested possibilities of Amazon or Blue Origin are a lot less good but still better than the status quo.

It hard to see a way that this makes things worse for ULA, unless maybe its a buyout by Boeing. That'd be terrible.

[Anonymous No.15241032]

>>15240972
please elaborate on specific tech, especially stuff that isn't going to get disrupted completely by other companies in the next 5 years
I had the impression that ULA is akin to ford or GM, not only are they kind of slow moving and incompetent in comparison, they have a lot of legacy stuff slowing them down making things even more difficult

[Anonymous No.15241047]

>>15241027
>do they have any relevant tech that another company could use?
No
>whats the point of buying a company that is on its way to bankruptcy
Their portfolio. They have a history of big-money contracts with NASA and the DoD. They have an upcoming rocket that is already designed so a new buyer wouldn’t have to dedicate their own funds to that end, even if it’s just a vanilla rocket. Any buyer would be getting a good company not completely rotten to the core yet, and one that could possibly flourish without being held back by two mega corporations the way it always has

[Anonymous No.15241048]

>>15241027
>whats the point of buying a company that is on its way to bankruptcy/zombie mode
When you buy out a LSP you also buy their existing launch contracts obligations. The Delta III had a ten launch contract with Hughes Space when the merger went through, and I'm pretty sure a lot of those ended up flying on Zenit-3SLs through Sea Launch. ULA might be fading but they still have 38 Kupier launches left to fly. Unless there's some "self-destruct in case of buyout" clause whoever buys ULA buys the right to launch those payloads.

[Anonymous No.15241052]

>>15240942
Expendable launch providers.

[Anonymous No.15241054]

>>15241032
Well okay if you want specific tech it’s Vulcan and Centaur. Hell you could even keep Atlas V alive with a revamped aerodyne AR1 production line if you really wanted to (although this is kind of dumb)
They have hardware that has flown, and is planning to fly, a lot of missions. Even if their hardware isn’t as good as Falcon 9 these days it’s not like it’s a huge risk compared to something like Virgin or Astra or something

[Anonymous No.15241057]

>Getting better launch reliability than Soyuz was as easy as recovering the rockets and inspecting them

Did... did everybody on earth really just do rocketry wrong for 70 years?

[Anonymous No.15241058]

Holy shit I wonder if the buyout includes the rights to ULAs old rockets. We might get a Delta V rocket after all bros

[Anonymous No.15241059]

>>15241057
Daddy Musk bought SpaceX from NASA. He's just an INVESTORS

[Anonymous No.15241063]

>>15241057
Between needing really reliable/highly variable throttling engines and more advanced on-board computers it wasn’t really an option before the 2000s. Or maybe the 90s.

[Anonymous No.15241065]

>>15241057
The computational power simply didn't exist until relatively recently. It's like saying the nazis were doing rocketry wrong.

[Anonymous No.15241067]

>>15241057
>inb4 obviously wrong larper cope about computers not being fast enough to land rockets before the falcon

[Anonymous No.15241069]

>>15241067
Too late

[Anonymous No.15241070]

>>15241067
>know it's true and has to prepare with a cope
Lmao. I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.15241072]

>>15241063
>>15241065
Damn you larpers are fast. Both entirely incorrect of course. The AGC could be made to land a F9.

[Anonymous No.15241075]

>>15241067
This debate isn’t as heated as something like nuclear/solar, but in my opinion it’s a way better debate that /sfg/ should be arguing about. Some say it wasn’t possible, some say it was. What’s the truth?
>Hard mode: don’t mention DC-X that shit is completely different than an orbital velocity booster

[Anonymous No.15241080]

>>15241072
Good luck simulating this shit with the computational power that existed in the 90's. Or do your larping projecting ass think it's as easy as taking a few telemetry data and adjust based on them?

[Anonymous No.15241082]

>>15241072
>The AGC could be made to land a F9.
No way

[Anonymous No.15241084]

>>15241075
It's entirely possible. Especially when you consider that you can have a booster that theoretically doesn't even need deep throttling or hoverslam (see super heavy)

[Anonymous No.15241088]

>>15241057
Recovery is harder than it looks. All of the Apollo-era recovery programs made use of big parachutes and SpaceX found out early on that's a lot harder than it looks on paper. Later plans used ejecting engine modules or flyback boosters, but the economics for those system just never lined up with the practical realities of the industry. You really need a customer with a big payload need to justify the development costs. SDI didn't pan out because the cold war ended, and the late 90s mega-constellations collapsed because global cell service in '99 isn't the same as global broadband internet today. SpaceX lucked into an industry that was still backlogged from the cold war slowdowns and made it the rest of the way by developing Starlink itself.

[Anonymous No.15241090]

>>15241084
That’s only because SH is large as shit so a) it stages early and b) has a shit load of TWR
That shit doesn’t fly on smaller boosters when every gallon of fuel adds more mass and you might not have the luxury of being able to hover; the constraints are way tighter. And I don’t think anyone would want to go straight to a super heavy lift rocket that can land a stage

[Anonymous No.15241094]

>>15241063
Boostback was done as a small program in the 90s
Flyback was mastered by the USSR in the 80s, with soviet electronics (aka 10 years+ behind American), only reason the American didn’t do it is politics
Deep throttled, restartable and reusable liquid prop engines exist since the 50s (X-15)
Lack of GPS would have hurt but nothing that a good communication coverage and inertial guidance autism wouldn’t have solved
NASA was confidant in the ability to make a flyback S1C in the 60s lmfao, or a reusable liquid flyback booster

This is pure cope. Absolutely pure cope.

[Anonymous No.15241095]

>>15241084
Okay even if that’s true let’s set actual landing aside: does something like the AGC have enough computational power to take real-time data and control grid fins/RCS/engines so that you stage, turn around, and make your way through the dynamic atmosphere to get right above a pre-determined landing site?

[Anonymous No.15241096]

>retards that have never even done CFD simulations in their entire life saying this shit would totally be possible in the 90's

[Anonymous No.15241101]

>>15241094
Care to share info on these early boostback/flyback programs?

[Anonymous No.15241105]

>>15241096
>he thinks F9 is running a CFD simulation while landing

[Anonymous No.15241107]

>>15241101
I think he’s talking about Buran as if it’s the same thing as landing a stage propulsively LMAO

[Anonymous No.15241108]

>>15241095
Yes of course. You would need ground beacons to account for not having GPS I guess.

[Anonymous No.15241109]

>>15241096
A4 could have made it to orbit in 1940

[Anonymous No.15241111]

>>15241094
Do any of your answers involve the use of wings/parachutes?

[Anonymous No.15241112]

>>15241094
>literal retard thinking fucking flyback is the same as propulsive landing
biggest cope of the year.

>>15241105
>yeah bro, the F9 was created through pure trial and error like those old soviets bro
Embarrassing

[Anonymous No.15241117]

>>15241096
>CFD simulations is why propulsive landing works
Retard cope. There's a billion ways to make things work with the tools you got. See Apollo program.

[Anonymous No.15241120]

>>15241108
I’m open to being wrong but I think you’re incorrect. But it’s literally only based on a gut feeling. I would love to see someone very familiar with the apollo guidance computer answer this on youtube or something it would be very interesting and I would totally be open to changing my mind if they thought it was possible

[Anonymous No.15241122]

>>15241117
Yes, it literally is. The immense amount of precision, timing and guidance during reentry demands it. This isn't a fucking brick reentering and gliding back. CFD simulations are just one of many needed for that matter.

Why is it always these literal underage retards projecting their own retardation so much?

[Anonymous No.15241123]

>>15241112
>the only way to determine the aerodynamic properties of a vehicle is CFD simulations

[Anonymous No.15241128]

>>15241122
being older than 18 and having run CFD simulations just makes the stuff you say sound even more retarded

[Anonymous No.15241130]

Fuck ground simulations, it’s really a question of how well something like the AGC is at predicting (simulating in real-time) its future location
I accept it can be done with lots of ground beacons without GPS. But is something like the apollo computer “smart” enough to account for rapidly changing winds and tiny little changes in a rocket that would really throw it off course if not accounted for

[Anonymous No.15241136]

>>15241130
Well the AGC got the rocket to orbit going *up* through those winds, with similar variables… and even accounted for engines going out and stuff. So probably yeah

[Anonymous No.15241138]

>>15241120
>someone very familiar with the apollo guidance computer answer this on youtube
this isn't as easy as running some numbers. of course the spacex landing program would run a million times too slow.
what matters is that history shows most well defined problems like that through careful analysis, approximation and of course trial and error can be broken down to run real time on extremely limited hardware.
>>15241122
you're almost certainly wrong. why does this make you seethe so much?

[Anonymous No.15241139]

>>15241123
>still clings to the absolutely retarded cope that landing boosters with propulsive landings is totally the same landing gliding bricks
Yeah, ok.

>>15241128
>The Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) DoD Supercomputing Resource Center (DSRC) has been allocating SpaceX Core hours on Lightning, Thunder and Mustang. Allowing SpaceX to use the DoD supercomputers has enabled their researchers to perform Computational Fluid Dynamic (CFD) simulations prior to the launches of Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy
retard

[Anonymous No.15241142]

>>15241138
>you're almost certainly wrong. why does this make you seethe so much?
Nice argument.

[Anonymous No.15241143]

>>15241112
>>15241111
Flyback is a perfectly fine method of recovery

Flyback and boostback are also complementary lol, even the Falcon 9 uses lift and gridfins as much as propulsive landing

DC-X is relevant for the terminal landing burn of F9
Reentry burn is a true F9 innovation but also unneeded (Starship booster, New Glenn, Shuttle SRb)

[Anonymous No.15241147]

>>15241130
yeah, they knew of closed loop control even back then. Also a number of lunar probes before 1990 landed propulsively on the moon. So this pretty much settles the matter on if propulsive landings were possible in 1990.

[Anonymous No.15241148]

>>15241143
Yeah, if you have huge ass rockets that can deal with the added mass to the boosters. And the only relevant rocket for that was Energia, which did have a recovery system. But yet again, not propulsive landing.

[Anonymous No.15241150]

>>15241147
>Also a number of lunar probes before 1990 landed propulsively on the moon. So this pretty much settles the matter on if propulsive landings were possible in 1990.
Yeah, I'm sure CFD comes in handy landing in a fucking vacuum lmao.

[Anonymous No.15241151]

>>15241147
Landing on a rock with no atmosphere is completely different than getting a rocket booster from near orbital velocity in an atmosphere to within proximity of a landing site and prepping for a landing. It’s not the actual propulsive landing part that’s in question, it’s the stuff before this

[Anonymous No.15241157]

>>15241143
No shit it’s possible with parachutes and wings that isn’t the argument here
>>15241147
Are you dumb

[Anonymous No.15241159]

Every time I remember that the Space Shuttle could have had flyback or parachute LRBs that staged at 2km/s+ I get mad at Utah all over again.

[Anonymous No.15241160]

>>15241096
>add more smaller center engines, land slower, make the vehicle wider, etc

[Anonymous No.15241161]

>>15241147
peak /sfg/ moment

[Anonymous No.15241162]

Doesn't Curiosity land on a computer designed in 1990 ?

[Anonymous No.15241164]

>>15241162
Doesn’t curiosity just stay in a heat shield through a majority of that basically-vacuum atmosphere and only pick a very specific landing site from a pre-determined area only after popping out and controlling itself to hover?

[Anonymous No.15241167]

>>15241164
If by "very specific" you mean within the area of a few km2, yes.

[Anonymous No.15241168]

>>15241139
Oh come on, ground-simulation testing on meme supercomputers probably saved them a ton of potential failures during the testing phase but it’s not a requirement

[Anonymous No.15241171]

>muh cfd
just kill yourselves already.
it's almost laughable how you confidently shout "impossible" at something vaguely harder than what was already accomplished at the time.
no engineer would ever make this argument and people like elon would fire you just for making it.

[Anonymous No.15241180]

>>15240551
>https://twitter.com/AlexSvanArt/status/1630896377176702977
>That AMOS explosion

[Anonymous No.15241184]

>>15241164
for not having a precise positioning system throughout the flight, and considering it doesn't use flight control surfaces, I'd say that pretty good. Perseverance did a better landing not sure which computer it's using though

[Anonymous No.15241185]

March 12th will be the earliest possible launch attempt

Why is the OLM shielding STILL not finished?

[Anonymous No.15241187]

>>15241063
manufacturing reliable and highly variable throttling engines was technologically impossible before the 2000s for some reason?

[Anonymous No.15241188]

>>15241168
I would argue it's a requirement if you want to land within a 10m any target with a propulsively landed booster, yes. Fluid dynamics are incredibly unpredictable and the uncertainties are massive when you're looking at these kinds of incredibly precise actions. And that's ignoring everything else around it. The room of errors here is minuscule in comparison to landing something through gliding/flyback.
>>15241171
Why do you continue to larp? You're not an engineer. You're most likely just some retarded band wagoner from reddit.

[Anonymous No.15241190]

>>15241187
Nah take that part out of my argument. I was just trying to say “you need pretty reliable engines” but then my autim made me include throttle. It was possible it could have easily been done with hypergolics if you wanted to

[Anonymous No.15241191]

>>15241188
why would you need to simulate "fluid dynamics" at all...
You have active control surfaces, you have propulsion to steer, and you can simply aim where you want to go

>need GPS to aim

no

[Anonymous No.15241193]

>>15241191
This is correct and based.
>>15241188
Seethe brainlet.

[Anonymous No.15241195]

>>15241096
just test on real hardware you pussy
just a fuckload of hardware testing

[Anonymous No.15241197]

>>15241191
>yeah bro, why in hell would you need CFD for when a booster reentering the atmosphere that will have to land within 10m of a target.
Based take. We should throw out wind tunnels while we're at it. Full trials and errors. I'm sure control surfaces will take care of any faults!

[Anonymous No.15241198]

>>15241188
>Fluid dynamics are incredibly unpredictable and the uncertainties are massive when you're looking at these kinds of incredibly precise actions.
Yeah this is the only thing holding me back from thinking the apollo computer could have done it. Although, at the same time, I could see the apollo computer being able to land the shuttle with a few minor upgrades. I don’t know how different a glider is from a vertical booster trying to do the same thing, but I feel like a glider that just needs to line up with a runway is WAY easier to control than a tube that needs to be as slow as possible and falling over a very very specific spot

[Anonymous No.15241200]

wasn't there that one retard who managed a propulsive landing with a small solid rocket motor? can't be that hard then.

[Anonymous No.15241208]

>>15241197
boostback would be easier maybe
throw down a huge parking lot for it
>>15241200
Joe Barnard only manages it about a third of the time it seems and it took him five years

[Anonymous No.15241214]

SpaceX arguably got where they got thanks to their proficiency in simulations. Too bad they stopped talking about this area of work publicly, used to be a lot of info about it prior to like 2017.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYA0f6R5KAI

[Anonymous No.15241215]

>>15241200
How much better is something like a little arduino than a whole flight computer from the 70s or 80s? Asking seriously. I feel like anyone trying it now has the benefit of faster computation

[Anonymous No.15241218]

>>15241215
The meme about your little smartphone being better than the Saturn V computer is a disingenuous lie. It was possible back then

[Anonymous No.15241219]

>>15241197
>it matters from how high up it falls
>high fidelity fluid dynamics simulation is required to hit a target
the rocket is not a ballistic projectile.
the error is corrected at each time interval by the control system.
simulations help you characterize the vehicle, something you can do with other means like wind tunnels.
no matter how often you cry precise and CFD it will not make your assertions true.
stop larping, return to twitter.

[Anonymous No.15241223]

>>15241159
And I'll remind you that each of those LRBs would have been at least partly cryogenic, if not outright hydromeme, and would have posed even more of a shedding threat to the Shuttle fragile underbelly.

[Anonymous No.15241224]

>>15241219
>the error is corrected at each time interval by the control system.
Lol, lmao. read >>15241080
It's so fucking easy to predict what you larping redditors will say.

[Anonymous No.15241225]

Minuteman III (1968) had a CEP of 250m
Peacekeeper (1985) had a CEP or
And both of these were at much higher terminal speed than any boostback stage

[Anonymous No.15241227]

>>15241225
Peacekeeper Had a cep of 125m*

[Anonymous No.15241230]

>>15241225
Higher terminal speed is literally to your advantage here. I'm not sure why you think otherwise.

[Anonymous No.15241232]

>>15241225
Get to your point

[Anonymous No.15241239]

>hurr durr computers couldn't do it

So you REMOTELY control it from the ground
or failing that
PUT A MAN IN YOUR BOOSTER TO LAND IT

[Anonymous No.15241240]

>>15241232
The entire boostback flight up to the landing burn was possible with 70s tech

[Anonymous No.15241241]

>>15241224
Nigger you type like a hyper fag who are you calling a redditor? I read that post it contained nothing of value.
People have been building airplanes and reentry capsules and rockets using these same principles.
Your cope about fluid dynamics is as far removed from reality as it gets.

[Anonymous No.15241253]

>>15241214
DoD probably told them to shut up because ITAR. 2017 is when they got NSSL access.

[Anonymous No.15241254]

>>15241241
>Nigger you type like a hyper fag who are you calling a redditor?
Nice hypocrisy.
>I read that post it contained nothing of value
And none of your post has so far. Just larping, deflections and projection.
>People have been building airplanes and reentry capsules and rockets using these same principles.
Again, like I have stated many times by now, if you're so fucking retarded that you think landing back a gliding brick is the same a propulsive land within 10m of a target after having boosted a stage to well above the atmosphere there's really nothing more to say than that you're a genuine retard. The difference should be apparent to anybody that has absolutely any experience with the related physics. And yet you still insist this is the same.
>Your cope about fluid dynamics is as far removed from reality as it gets.
Nigger, you probably have no clue about fluid dynamics period. It's just pathetic larping.

[Anonymous No.15241256]

>>15241225
>higher terminal speed
>trajectory disturbance from atmosphere on a moving object
>object moves through a disturbing force which has some dimensions
>gets pushed with a force of some newtons for the amount of time it intersects the disturbance
>if it goes through the disturbance faster it's pushed a shorter distance since the time term becomes smaller and the force term is unchanged
How does this help your argument? With a fast enough projectile you could just yeet it directly at the target and basically just compensate for gravity and Coriolis

[Anonymous No.15241258]

Heinlein's heroes didn't need any gay CFD (Commie Fag Deviant) shit, they just used slide rules

[Anonymous No.15241260]

>>15241258
That was before Apollo 13 showed us how retarded it was to fly a spacecraft truly by hand.

[Anonymous No.15241269]

>>15241188
>Fluid dynamics are incredibly unpredictable
let me guess, chutefaggot?

[Anonymous No.15241273]

As control authority gets larger aerodynamics can be increasingly ignored.
It's called robust control for a reason.
You can pay with mass for any lack of granularity in modeling.

[Anonymous No.15241277]

>>15241215
I do think Arduinos are faster but he has a rocket with much worse thorttle and gimbal control than was possible back then. His code probably isn't that good either

[Anonymous No.15241283]

Reminder that fluid dynamics is literally magic and relies on retarded empirical """constants""" that can be entirely irrelevant depending on the situation.

[Anonymous No.15241285]

>>15240904
>world's most important rocket companies
Kek

[Anonymous No.15241286]

>>15241273
not so fast, bud

[Anonymous No.15241289]

>>15241273
>As control authority gets larger aerodynamics can be increasingly ignored.
not to mention that after the first flight you measure the aerodynamic properties empirically. But yes the beauty feedback control is that it adjusts to random unknown disturbances up to a point

[Anonymous No.15241297]

>>15241239
>PUT A MAN IN YOUR BOOSTER TO LAND IT
Yeah, this is a bad idea for the same reasons that Virgin Orbit's idea of having manned GSE or Rocket Lab's manned aerial recovery are both bad ideas. Unless you're launching crew to orbit, you really should have people as far from your rocket as you can get them.

[Anonymous No.15241301]

>>15241297
This is the beauty of a manned spaceplane

[Anonymous No.15241310]

>>15241297
>oh no people might die

better to spend billions of dollars trying to remotely land a rocket in the 60's than risk a mans life huh ?

[Anonymous No.15241314]

>aerofags vs controlfags

[Anonymous No.15241323]

That MCDD bid a VTVL design for the 90s RLV program show they had enough confidence from the DC-X to extrapolate to a ssto

[Anonymous No.15241327]

>>15241310
Better to go with an economical but expendable rocket. You don't need reuse to be adorable or have a high launch cadence, and there are a lot of eras where the technology for reuse just isn't there or is there but isn't adorable to develop. Manned fly-back boosters would require the development of pants on head retarded crew escape systems like what was floated for Shuttle II or Hermes and every cargo launch would put crew at risk just like when we were trying to use the Shuttle for every launch in the Western market. Just build an expendable rocket.

[Anonymous No.15241333]

>>15241327
>You couldn't do it because, you just couldn't ok

[Anonymous No.15241336]

>>15241327
>you don't need reuse to be adorable
Rocketgirl thread.

[Anonymous No.15241337]

>>15241323
Douglas was confident in it in 1967 lol
Landing Accuracy was about 2 km, but judged sufficient

[Anonymous No.15241341]

what NASA should have done

[Anonymous No.15241342]

Falcon 9 could have been built in the 70's.
The landings only seem crazy because of the mediocrity that followed the Apollo program.
If ASDS landings followed moon landings nobody would bat an eye.

[Anonymous No.15241347]

>>15241342
Most of everything could have been built in the 70s if the interest and budgets stayed. Advances in computing and materials just lowered the bar from genious to Musk.

[Anonymous No.15241354]

>>15241342
Not with VTVL orbital boosters

[Anonymous No.15241357]

>>15241347
Correct
>>15241354
Incorrect

[Anonymous No.15241358]

>>15241185
>they said it was march 11th some days ago
it's over bros

[Anonymous No.15241361]

>>15241336
> it's real

[Anonymous No.15241363]

>>15241333
Autonomous landing is unlikely to be possible before the 90s and is certain to be economically impossible when compared to the cost of contemporary expendables. Adding manned flyback requires extra systems and safeties that add a lot of weight and eat an equal amount of payload capacity, which fucks the economics from a completely different angle. So, no, you really couldn't.

Something like Clipper-Centaur might have had a chance of working around 2000, but there's nothing earlier that any serious chance of working out.

>>15241336
But you do actually need to give a shit about what your second stage team is getting up to. That's not negotiable. Those girls deserve more care.

[Anonymous No.15241366]

>>15241347
people like musk come around once every blue moon. Who do you think of when you say genius?

[Anonymous No.15241367]

>>15241363
Astra is still bleeding staff by the way.

[Anonymous No.15241378]

>>15241366
Musk is like Gauss multiplied by von Neumann minus Witten

[Anonymous No.15241382]

>>15241314
nigga just test it empirically, cfd fag hasn't give a single reason why this wouldn't work

[Anonymous No.15241388]

Musk tweeting noticeably less. I like this.

[Anonymous No.15241391]

>>15241366
Musk isn't rare in raw intelligence. It's a rarer combination of intelligence and willingness and desire to execute big projects.

[Anonymous No.15241397]

>>15241388
It's Tesla investors day.

[Anonymous No.15241403]

>>15241397
Not only today. It's been a week at least with reduced tweets. There's probably a website with a graph.

[Anonymous No.15241413]

boostback *may* have been possible back in the 70s but it'd be bleeding edge and there's no fucking way anyone would've had enough faith in the concept for it to ever be approved.

[Anonymous No.15241431]

>>15241388
Pravda realized that only low brain cell individuals were connecting with that narrative, and even they got bored quickly, so they dropped it in favor of talking about how Dilbert is a racist.

[Anonymous No.15241452]

>>15240205
I believe that equates to 12.66666 cents, sir.

[Anonymous No.15241456]

New son of a Gunnerson on Sea Dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLoDTdaGTRI

[Anonymous No.15241472]

It’d take forever to download from OnlyFans on Mars

[Anonymous No.15241473]

>>15241472
not really if Mars has a cache of the most frequently accessed internet sites on earth

[Anonymous No.15241478]

Tesla event live

[Anonymous No.15241479]

>>15241473
>Beaming petabytes to Mars every month

[Anonymous No.15241480]

So either LM will take that money they were going to use for Aerojet Rocketdyne and just buy out Boeing, Bezos will offer an exorbitant amount of money, or some literal who equity firm will get ULA. My bet is the first option—although if Bezos has already made up his mind then he will just offer more than LM, no matter what they offer.

[Anonymous No.15241482]

>>15241479
we need a lot of dedicated bandwidth for that but its going to happen eventually

[Anonymous No.15241485]

>>15241479
Yes. Are you that fag that doesn't understand how much bandwidth you can put on a single laser beam?

[Anonymous No.15241487]

Can they start the event already or are we going to wait an hour for Elon again like every other livestream

[Anonymous No.15241488]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl1zEzVUV7w

[Anonymous No.15241490]

>>15241488
Livestream will have SpaceX related topics too. Scaling via tonnage (Starlink/Starship tonnage prob) is the main topic here AFAIK.

[Anonymous No.15241494]

>>15241490
He’s an autist about production it’ll be 99.5% this

[Anonymous No.15241497]

>>15241485
A terabit per second is pedestrian when you're talking about multi wavelength high tech laser transceivers.
That gets you 330 petabytes per month.

[Anonymous No.15241501]

>>15241480
Getting absorbed by Blue would be pretty good overall. Vulcan's pricing would improve since it's main engines are now being made in-house, and it could ditch Aeroject's RL-10s for BE-3Us while improving Vulcan's overall performance. That last bit would mean they need to buy fewer GEM-63XLs from Northrop, which would make its economics even better. Not being owned by two mutually conflicted parties would make future developments like SMART a lot easier to get approval for.

And Blue Origin would get a rocket that can actually reach orbit while they're waiting for New Glenn to finish development.

[Anonymous No.15241506]

>>15241501
will it be called blue boeing? boeing origin?

[Anonymous No.15241507]

>>15241488
>>15241490
https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-patents-proprietary-steel-alloy-design-for-nearly-impenetrable-cybertruck-body

I'm most interested in an investor potentially asking a question about this. If Tesla unifies the Stainless Steel alloy sourcing for the vehicle and the Starship into one unified stack. Holy smokes. That has the potential to change everything.

[Anonymous No.15241508]

>>15241507
Probably not, for ITAR reasons. Still some things can be unified and knowledge crosstransferred.

[Anonymous No.15241510]

>>15241480
Bezos is not infinitely rich.
Companies are worth a lot and he's just a single person.
Just the contracts ULA has alone it would have to be Amazon providing cash for the deal.

[Anonymous No.15241512]

>>15241507
>Holy smoke. That has the potential to change everything

I don't have a basedjack powerful enough for this faggot ass post straight out of reddit.

[Anonymous No.15241515]

someone post the why can't I get to orbit image

[Anonymous No.15241516]

>Holy smokes. That has the potential to change everything.
:OO

[Anonymous No.15241518]

>>15241507
>For the nerds, it will range from 420 HV to 500 HV on hardness, have 520 mV to 600 mV corrosion resistance, a ductility of 60 degrees bend angle at 1.8mm thickness, and a yield strength of 1100 MPa.

https://www.marlinwire.com/blog/why-you-should-use-stainless-steel-for-aerospace-applications
>>15241508

I doubt ITAR would screw with the friggin' alloy used for a Starship. It seems kinda ridiculous, despite some of ITAR's inherent ridiculousness. Also, CT SS alloy has 2x the tensile strength of aerospace grade SS. Wow.

>>15241512
Great, because basedjack posting is peak faggotry.

[Anonymous No.15241519]

>>15241506
It'd probably just stay Blue Origin. Boeing changed their logo in 1997 when they ate McDonnell Douglas but they didn't change their actual name.

[Anonymous No.15241523]

>>15241185
TWO WEEKS! (approximate)

[Anonymous No.15241525]

See you faggots in "two minutes"

[Anonymous No.15241526]

>>15241507
cybertruck is never going to be street legal, right? If it crashes, it's going to guarantee whoever was in the other car is dead

[Anonymous No.15241530]

>>15241523
Just one week until Terran

[Anonymous No.15241531]

>>15241526
Trucks are already like that. Heavy as shit and they pulverize anyone you crash into. A lot of them have a stiff push bar too.

[Anonymous No.15241532]

>>15241526
>noooo don’t make durable cars
Kill all liberals

[Anonymous No.15241534]

>>15241525
2.5x

12 mins

[Anonymous No.15241535]

>>15241526
not my problem

[Anonymous No.15241538]

>>15241526
>what are semitrucks

[Anonymous No.15241539]

>>15241525
Holy smokes. This has the potential to change everything.

[Anonymous No.15241540]

>>15241531
yeah, and you need a different license to drive a truck
>>15241532
it's like how giving football players harder helmets and more padding ends up leading to more injuries

[Anonymous No.15241544]

>>15240870
>>15240830
>>15240824
Really interesting, thanks

[Anonymous No.15241546]

Just because the outside is made of hard steel doesn't mean you can't design it to fold up nicely in crash testing.
The additional strength of the skin can be offset by reduced internal strength until it's equivalent.

[Anonymous No.15241550]

>>15240942
>Blue origin purchases ULA
>When Starship launches, Jeff tweets "Welcome to the club"
>Musk convicted of 1st degree murder
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.15241553]

two more minutes

[Anonymous No.15241554]

>>15241550
>Starship launches
>Jeff Who tweets "Welcome to the club"
>Location confirmed
>Starship "lands" on Jeff Who

[Anonymous No.15241556]

>>15241550
>Jeff tweets "Welcome to the club"
I just remembered this is a real thing that happened

[Anonymous No.15241557]

>>15241550
I can guarantee you that musk has been waiting to give jeff a 'welcome to the club' for years, but jeff has simply never gotten it up. Bezos eternally trolls the muskrat.

[Anonymous No.15241560]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl1zEzVUV7w

[Anonymous No.15241559]

It's Live. LFG

[Anonymous No.15241561]

LIVE LIVE LIVE

[Anonymous No.15241562]

>musk fansoi general

[Anonymous No.15241563]

>>15241559
>>15241560
>>15241561
I don't care about tesla. Not spaceflight related.

[Anonymous No.15241566]

Glad they had that huge ass disclaimer that anything we say might be bs.

[Anonymous No.15241567]

>>15241562
/sfg/ - SpaceX Fanboy General

[Anonymous No.15241569]

Elon looking good, must have been cutting back on the tex mex

[Anonymous No.15241573]

kek none of the investors care about this shit. they want number go up

[Anonymous No.15241574]

>>15241562
Yes and?

[Anonymous No.15241578]

Elon is actually looking great also his idealism is showing

[Anonymous No.15241579]

>>15241562
Tesla produces solar technology. A vital component of space activities.

[Anonymous No.15241580]

>>15241573
and this is Tesla putting its cock on the table and having a staring contest with it

[Anonymous No.15241584]

>>15241567
You got anyone else for us to get our dicks hard over? Relativity hasn't printed anything into orbit yet, Rocket Lab just admitted fishing boosters out of the ocean might be better than trying to catch them, and the biggest news from ULA is that someone else might own them sometime.

[Anonymous No.15241585]

>>15241573
Dodge v. Ford Motor Company and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[Anonymous No.15241587]

>zero insurmountable resource challenges

no one tell him about the ever declining mine discoveries of ever decreasing ore quality

[Anonymous No.15241592]

>>15241587
tesla is getting into mining. they know all this

[Anonymous No.15241602]

>>15240930
If he takes off thae helmet will he die?

[Anonymous No.15241615]

>>15241587
Just mine harder

[Anonymous No.15241622]

>>15241592
well, Musk was already into mining kek

[Anonymous No.15241628]

>>15241587
Dig deeper.

[Anonymous No.15241629]

>>15241563
Did you forget when this whole general got wet over that fucking Neuralink stream?

[Anonymous No.15241630]

>>15241562
Yes, spaceflight was complete horseshit before Musk, just a bunch of old faggots swapping money around for a 10 year build of a single use launch stand. Fuck that, Musk is king.

[Anonymous No.15241632]

>>15240904
Finally a fucking scoop. Right on Bergerman

[Anonymous No.15241634]

>>15241632
That's Eric 'Burger' Berger to you.

[Anonymous No.15241646]

>all that battery storage
NIGGER. It's way cheaper to build twice as much generation and make methane for storage

[Anonymous No.15241650]

>>15241473
>>15241479
>>15241480
>>15241482
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a Starship full of SSDs.

[Anonymous No.15241657]

>>15241540
>yeah, and you need a different license to drive a truck
I've the lowest level of license in my state; as long as it weighs less than 13 tons and doesn't have air brakes, I'm good to go.

[Anonymous No.15241664]

>>15241214
Called it, proprietary motor design software shown in 2023 investor day.

[Anonymous No.15241672]

>0% rare earth in motor package
what the fugg

[Anonymous No.15241679]

>fuck car wires, were going ethernet
the fuck?

[Anonymous No.15241684]

based

[Anonymous No.15241688]

https://astra.com/news/conclusion-tropics-1-mishap-investigation/
>After over six months of rigorous testing and analysis, Astra has received a formal closure letter from the FAA concluding the TROPICS-1 mishap investigation.
>Our analysis showed that the anomalous fuel consumption during the upper stage flight was due to a combustion chamber wall burn-through that occurred 18 seconds into upper stage flight. Flight data showed that the burn-through was precipitated by a substantial blockage of the fuel injector.

[Anonymous No.15241691]

>>15241679
It does make sense, running a few ring circuits for power and ethernet and just hooking up devices to the closest points rather than running each from a central point. Nightmare for the DIY goy of course since you can't hookup to the tesla software but that's all part of the plan.

[Anonymous No.15241694]

>>15241679
That's just a common trend. You don't draw wires to all rear lights individually. You have a common power line and a dataline.

[Anonymous No.15241709]

>>15241560
AAGAHGJA IM INVEEEEEESSSTTTING

[Anonymous No.15241711]

>jeet working on FSD

no wonder it's going nowhere

[Anonymous No.15241712]

>>15241531
Damn they should really tighten the regulations around these. They also use too much fuel

[Anonymous No.15241713]

>pajeet working on FSD stumbles over basic english
no wonder the cars cant drive themselves yet

[Anonymous No.15241716]

>>15241518
So they're not both using 304L ?

[Anonymous No.15241718]

fuck, I'm hour late
Anything interesting that I missed?

[Anonymous No.15241719]

Apparently DART somehow survived the impact and is trying to contact the DSN

[Anonymous No.15241721]

>>15241718
Mostly the usual investor wank about %s, new drive stator has 0 rare earths which is quite cool tho.

[Anonymous No.15241722]

>>15241672
Induction motors or reluctance motors?

[Anonymous No.15241729]

>FSD doesn't work
where did this meme come from?

[Anonymous No.15241730]

>>15241691
>>15241694
Astra Rocket 3 also used Ethernet for onboard communications. The rocket cameras were cheap IP webcams from Amazon in custom housings.

[Anonymous No.15241732]

>>15241729
Because that's not FSD, that's human supervised assisted driving.

[Anonymous No.15241734]

>>15241729
well its not full self driving, lvl 5 autonomy yet
so in that sense it doesnt work (yet)
its a driver assist right now and Tesla has said this from the start as well

[Anonymous No.15241741]

>>15241719
The Ghost of Didymos

[Anonymous No.15241743]

>>15241729
brainlet take. At this point "FSD" is orders of magnitude less safe

[Anonymous No.15241744]

>>15241743
Can you prove it?

[Anonymous No.15241746]

Somehow von Braun returned

[Anonymous No.15241749]

Damn Rebecca.

[Anonymous No.15241750]

SEX BOT

[Anonymous No.15241751]

Rebecca cute

[Anonymous No.15241758]

>>15241744
Yes rate of intervention * intervention that would have otherwise crashed >>> rate of human crashes
by multiple orders of magnitude

[Anonymous No.15241763]

>>15241719
The virgin Roscosmos
>still iterating on Soyuz and Salyut
>can't hit a target the size of Mars
>Venus program has been idle since collapse of USSR
>zero outer system missions
The chad NASA
>Apollo, shuttle, ISS, Artemis
>ten years of superb orbital data out of a spare parts mission
>missions from the 1970s still semi operational
>Jupiter and Saturn missions unsurpassed in quality or types of data collected
>deliberately suicided a probe into an asteroid, still didn't kill it
>somewhere deep inside Saturn, Cassini is still broadcasting

[Anonymous No.15241770]

>>15241763
>somewhere deep inside Saturn, Cassini is still broadcasting
Imagine treating the cucked fate of Cassini as a triumph. It should be nearing Uranus by now if they had any balls.

[Anonymous No.15241779]

/sfg/ - Tesla General

[Anonymous No.15241781]

[Anonymous No.15241784]

[Anonymous No.15241790]

[Anonymous No.15241791]

[Anonymous No.15241793]

>>15241587
no one tell this guy about recycling

[Anonymous No.15241797]

[Anonymous No.15241803]

>>15241793
Even simple things like bottles aren't recycled, just sent to "recycling" plants in shithole countries and dumped into rivers, because it's wildly unprofitable, let alone anything that requires any modest amount of disassembly..

[Anonymous No.15241804]

>>15241797
god i wish that were me

[Anonymous No.15241809]

>>15241803
Low iq take. Either the resources are rare and sparse or they're not. If something is easier to mine out of a battery than the earth then that will happen.

[Anonymous No.15241814]

>>15241719
Uhhhh what? There’s no way

[Anonymous No.15241820]

>>15241804
Well you've got the 'cannot breed' part down pat haven't you?

[Anonymous No.15241831]

>>15241672
Half of their engines are already rare earth-less. They're also switching from lithium cobalt to lithium phosphate battery, so no rare metals there either (I know cobalt isn't rare-earth but it's precarious)

[Anonymous No.15241832]

>>15241809
Sure and this doesn't allow a 50% year or year growth model when your base materials become massively more expensive.

[Anonymous No.15241844]

>>15241803
Because the raw materials are still really plentiful. Resources are practically infinite

[Anonymous No.15241847]

Why are they all wearing t-shirts?

[Anonymous No.15241850]

>>15241847
Why not

[Anonymous No.15241856]

>>15241847
If you were smart you'd be wearing one too

[Anonymous No.15241857]

>>15241832
Mining nickel and cobalt out of batteries right now is easier than out of the earth.
The percentage per weight is just exorbitantly higher than in any ore and it's sitting right there with no need to dig.

[Anonymous No.15241861]

>>15241847
They're engineers, not bureaucratic leaches

[Anonymous No.15241865]

>>15241857
and yet nobody does it because the cost of disassembly, separating, stripping the elements out and refining them is catastrophically more expensive than mining

[Anonymous No.15241866]

>>15241803
>90% of first world is too braindead to make recycling work by giving money incentive for returning them for recycling

[Anonymous No.15241873]

>>15241866
The issue isn't collection, you dumb brownoid. It's processing cost. The contents of those buckets are what gets shipped out because it's not cost effective to recycle them here.

[Anonymous No.15241874]

>>15241866
It's more profitable for recycling companies to take government money and then throw it into the ocean rather than giving customers money back and actually recycling it.

[Anonymous No.15241884]

How to get Tesla gf?

[Anonymous No.15241885]

> ESG
niggers and women lmao
why do they need this part exactly?
i wonder how hard they had to convince eleon to do this

[Anonymous No.15241886]

>Tesslaa
>Tesz-lah

which one

[Anonymous No.15241890]

damn

[Anonymous No.15241894]

>>15241866
Do you also have a bunch of gypsies in front of your stores like we do across the baltic sea finnbro? They always beg to get my used pet bottles whenever I'm doing this.

[Anonymous No.15241897]

>>15241890
well time to kys
>wanted to work at tesla as an engineer

[Anonymous No.15241899]

>>15241890
But WP said that everyone hates working for Musk???

[Anonymous No.15241901]

>>15241890
Damn what is this spacex company? Never heard of them before where on /ecg/

[Anonymous No.15241902]

>nooo you can't just take a 1000x more concentrated ore aka spent battery and turn that into raw materials
will be proven wrong once again. large scale lithium batteries are only just becoming a thing, these processes will be developed and perfected over time.
mining has been around for 500 years just give it time.
but sure you can also doom about peak cobalt or whatever just for the world to move on and you to still not retroactively admit how retarded you really are.

[Anonymous No.15241903]

>woman actually calls it ice

[Anonymous No.15241906]

>>15241902
People were mining before governments existed

[Anonymous No.15241910]

>>15241894
Kurds and somalis chased beggars out.

[Anonymous No.15241911]

>>15241903
went to take a piss, did she say anything interesting?
the whole section sounded a bit pointless lmao

[Anonymous No.15241912]

>>15241866
Never occured to me that this is a local thing, we have this in Canada and all the US states I've been to

[Anonymous No.15241913]

>>15241911
she just said obvious things that were given to her because she's too stupid to take credit for anything else
but she called ICE vehicles literally ice vehicles

[Anonymous No.15241914]

>>15241763
>>still iterating on Soyuz and Salyut
Buddy I dont think they are even doing that.

[Anonymous No.15241915]

>>15241902
Tesla doesn't even use cobalt anymore lol

[Anonymous No.15241936]

>>15241763
Ahem

[Anonymous No.15241950]

>>15241914
They don't really need to iterate more on Soyuz. It's cheap to build and reliable so long as Ivan doesn't get drunk and let an American astronaut woman start drilling holes in it. The only changes you might want to make are ones that would make it even cheaper to build and operate, but those have to be pretty rare at this point.

DOS modules could see some updating, but they're pretty much just a pressurized can with equipment packed into them. There's very few dramatic changes you can make to a simplified design like that. The best you could do is replace older components with newer, lighter, cheaper ones.

[Anonymous No.15241963]

>>15239114
>>15239201
Atlas V 411 on steroids. Imagine the powerslide.

[Anonymous No.15241987]

>>15241963
>Imagine the powerslide
Each one of those cores was supposed to be fitted with 7+ RS-25 derived engines. It would have quite the slide.

[Anonymous No.15241989]

https://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-reconsidering-mid-air-recovery-of-electron-boosters/
>That demand, Beck added, meant that the company was not seeing pricing pressure on Electron launches. “Electron pricing has never gone down. It’s only ever gone up.”
>That will continue, Spice predicted, as other small launch vehicle developers drop out of the market. “I think it’s just a matter of time before kind of the natural selection process really leads us down to a point where launch for Electron becomes more expensive, not less expensive,” he said.
lol

[Anonymous No.15241992]

>>15241950
>let an American astronaut woman start drilling holes in it.
You are going to trigger the simps bigly

[Anonymous No.15242008]

>>15241899
Dude bro white male engineers love it.

[Anonymous No.15242011]

>>15241913
I always call them that too, 1 syllable > 3

[Anonymous No.15242014]

>>15242011
retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.15242016]

>>15241903
>>15241913
yeah that's how you say it

[Anonymous No.15242019]

>>15242014
Ok I suck cocks, I love it. My IQ is 80 and rising fast

[Anonymous No.15242023]

Saying ice instead of I.C.E is transphobic and highly offensive to axe-wound havers like myself.

[Anonymous No.15242025]

>>15242023
I'm trans btw

[Anonymous No.15242033]

>>15241688
My MaxQute loli rocket had hemorrhoids???

[Anonymous No.15242038]

>>15241719
Do NOT answer that transmission
DART is dead
That... thing... It's not DART
Not anymore

[Anonymous No.15242039]

>>15242023
Not only that but you're a fucking dumbass retard too idiot poopy fucker

[Anonymous No.15242044]

>fatso that is barely audible asks questions with so much jargon nobody understands
I hate fat retards so much

[Anonymous No.15242062]

>>15241906
>>15241902
Mining isnt hard. The legal and environmental trash before and after is.
t. mine engineer

[Anonymous No.15242063]

>>15242062
Kill all environmentalists

[Anonymous No.15242064]

>guy has the balls to actually ask "next car when?"
>"n-next question"
when did elon lose his balls? remember when he revealed stuff 5 years in advance?

[Anonymous No.15242067]

>>15241719
>>15242038
it is happening again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sd2ahUfi9Y

[Anonymous No.15242091]

>>15242067
Love this. Moar.

[Anonymous No.15242113]

>>15242091
The analog horror zoomers don't do space, its all back rooms rubbish.
Try this
https://lovecraftianscience.wordpress.com/category/the-tugging/

[Anonymous No.15242119]

>>15242063
*dies from poisoned water source*

[Anonymous No.15242120]

>>15242067

[Anonymous No.15242123]

>>15242064
>cybertruck not even being built yet
>roadster still a concept art meme
>wen next car

rumao

[Anonymous No.15242124]

>>15242062
>But doood we just have to release our toxic chemical separation sludge upstream its not economical to clean it!

Doesn't help when you tell to investors that you suck the profit out of the mine faster than the country can sue you. Scum.

[Anonymous No.15242129]

>>15242064
next car will probably be a small two door hatchback, they will never ever fill the demand for that.

[Anonymous No.15242130]

Rip my stocks.

[Anonymous No.15242133]

>>15242091
>>15242113
http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/ghooric.htm

[Anonymous No.15242140]

>>15242130
Did u not sell the news? Come on anon get your shit together

[Anonymous No.15242141]

>>15242064
revealing when its coming will most likely result in a Osborne effect on model 3 and y, which is really bad
they don't want to reveal info about the specific cars on the gen3 platform before they are close to production on them or already producing them
a product unveil will be coming later

[Anonymous No.15242153]

They are ready to leave the planet.

[Anonymous No.15242155]

https://twitter.com/thePrimalSpace/status/1630921320606081024

[Anonymous No.15242157]

[Anonymous No.15242164]

>>15242153
>>15242157
Bowen manspreading, that's, uhm, problematic.

[Anonymous No.15242169]

>>15242141
that being said, this event felt pretty pointless and could have been a number of pdfs posted on twitter instead of a 4h long event where basically nothing new was revealed (nothing warranting a 4h event)
so overall pretty disappointing even though I didn't expect a product reveal
I'm not really sure why they felt the need to have this event in the first place? show that Tesla does have a lot of competent engineers working at the company and it won't implode just because Elon is there a bit less for a few months due to twitter?

[Anonymous No.15242175]

>>15242169
This isn't /sfg/ anon where we need presentations with autistic details, it's just an event they need to do regularly to impress investors with the best percentage numbers they can cook up.

[Anonymous No.15242186]

i hate investor culture so much

[Anonymous No.15242191]

>>15242153
So am I

[Anonymous No.15242192]

>>15242186
Same, I'm so glad SpaceX is private. Stock kikes ruin everything they get their grubby hands on

[Anonymous No.15242197]

>>15242186
>own company
>stock jews also own a bunch because you sold stock without know how bad things really are
>decide to to something with your company for good reasons but that may not be immediately profitable
>stock jews sue you for failing fiduciary responsibility (you aren't making them enough money)

[Anonymous No.15242213]

>have to go through the whole song and dance again

aaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.15242216]

>>15241587
Just mine another planet.
Also cylinderfags btfo.

[Anonymous No.15242218]

>>15241790
dropped something whoops lol my bad b

[Anonymous No.15242226]

>>15242197
Fun fact, this was basically created by the (((Dodge Brothers))) as an excuse to sue Henry Ford for paying his workers too much.

[Anonymous No.15242233]

>>15242226
Thanks for the information and I'm sure you can imagine my surprise at it.

[Anonymous No.15242246]

Not a good look for your crew launch there.

[Anonymous No.15242250]

>>15242246
>software center
>using SCCM toast notifications instead of Intune
fucking based i could work for spacex

[Anonymous No.15242254]

>>15242246
lol

[Anonymous No.15242258]

3h to scrub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_3Dl9x8MG0

[Anonymous No.15242268]

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19780024238

>we could have had American RD-701

[Anonymous No.15242278]

>>15242246
Spacex opsec ruined.
>Windows 10
>Chrome
>Nvidia
Top normie.

[Anonymous No.15242285]

>>15242278
Still more upto date than NASA.

[Anonymous No.15242288]

>>15242278
topkek

[Anonymous No.15242289]

>>15242186
Me too, you should have checked out Virgin Galactic's "fanbase" when its stock was doing relatively good. Holy shit, didn't know there could be that many retards in one single place. An embarrassment for people actually interested in space.

[Anonymous No.15242299]

>>15242285
What are you talking about this is sovl, they’d probably still use XP if it weren’t such a security risk

[Anonymous No.15242300]

>>15242278
God i could so work there

[Anonymous No.15242304]

>>15242285
>NASA
Huh, surely they are still using XP lmao

[Anonymous No.15242308]

>>15242278
Bitlocker, Defender. literally my company

[Anonymous No.15242312]

[Anonymous No.15242319]

>>15242299
>>15242304
Windows XP was unironically peak operating system design

[Anonymous No.15242324]

>>15242319
God, I still remember using Windows 98, time went by so fast

[Anonymous No.15242336]

https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1631108570723803136

Live Crew Dragon if you're not watching

[Anonymous No.15242341]

>>15242336
Russian looks ill at ease. Probably too spacious for him.

[Anonymous No.15242352]

Inshallah rocket will success

[Anonymous No.15242353]

Did Inspiration 4 get the armada of navy, air force, coast guard, etc. recovery forces? They didn’t even get a swat escort the same way NASA crews do lmao

[Anonymous No.15242355]

>Do you feel in charge?

[Anonymous No.15242370]

>>15242355
Only in a tessie

[Anonymous No.15242380]

HATCH STUCK! HATCH STUCK!
Please!
I BEG YOU!

[Anonymous No.15242390]

NASA stream went from 43k to 38k lmao NASAQ I'm selling my stock now this is a disaster

[Anonymous No.15242391]

Having to wait for several hours in this shit ass position

[Anonymous No.15242394]

>>15242391
I fucking hate flying.

[Anonymous No.15242397]

>>15242391
Andrey is tapping his screen so much, I refuse to believe he’s doing anything official. It looks like he’s just scribbling

[Anonymous No.15242398]

NASA's SpaceX Crew-6 March 2 Launch Attempt (Official NASA Broadcast in 4K)

[Anonymous No.15242399]

>>15242397
He's shitposting here, obviously.

[Anonymous No.15242400]

SEEN ANY INTERESTING HILLS AND VALLEYS ?

[Anonymous No.15242401]

>>15242397
He's downloading rare Pepes to smuggle back to his family behind the Banana Curtain.

[Anonymous No.15242402]

>>15242397
I would be doing that too, better than staring at the ceiling for two hours, thinking "you know what, I don't really feel like going up there for six months after all, can I still leave?"

[Anonymous No.15242405]

>>15242397
who has the image, I know one of you cunts has it

[Anonymous No.15242409]

>>15242397
Humans scribbled on cave walls 10,000+ years ago (probably way before this, even) It’s the ultimate “I am sentient and I am bored” activity lol

[Anonymous No.15242427]

Ballast Bill never misses an opportunity to brag about his role as ballast.

[Anonymous No.15242430]

>>15242427
He’s docking her pay after tonight for not addressing him as senator astronaut administrator

[Anonymous No.15242432]

NELSON MENTIONS SPACEX BY NAME AS THE LANDER VENDOR

[Anonymous No.15242440]

Alright, shit on the repetitiveness of these interviews all you want but my boomer father (who doesn’t really care for space) has the live stream pulled up in the other room and he’s fascinated by everything Bill is saying. He doesn’t know anything about Artemis or crew swap or the ISS and he’s screaming from across the room trying to explain it to me because he’s excited.

[Anonymous No.15242442]

DID HE JUST SAY 6 DAYS

6 DAYS ARTEMIS III?

WOOOT

[Anonymous No.15242445]

>>15242442
He did!

[Anonymous No.15242449]

>>15242445
That's gonna be crazy

[Anonymous No.15242469]

>impact on the world, no, on the solar system
Is this the first time that NASA has asserted offworld territories as inevitable?

[Anonymous No.15242472]

>>15242469
They did it all the time before the Dark Ages of spaceflight

[Anonymous No.15242500]

>>15242472
Greetings from Baikonur. I hate the shuttle so much it's unreal.

[Anonymous No.15242522]

the what app?

[Anonymous No.15242528]

>>15242442
People are landing on the moon this month?!

[Anonymous No.15242529]

RAJ working on the SpaceX HLS lander woot

[Anonymous No.15242538]

Imagine being the poor bastard/s who not only have to seethe in space while two of your crew go down to the surface of the moon, but also that they get to basically live in spacious luxury the whole time while you're stuck in an Orion shaped tin can

[Anonymous No.15242539]

>>15242538
This is the real justification for Gateway, a place to park Orion.

[Anonymous No.15242547]

>>15242538
Orion/SLS's roles will evaporate from the Artemis program, mark my words.
Spacex will cook up a Dragon with beefier life support and a kick stage in the trunk, or people will stop having a stick up their ass about crew on Starship after it launches 500 times before 2028.

[Anonymous No.15242575]

>>15242538
I thought Orion could be left unmanned in orbit during the landing

[Anonymous No.15242577]

>>15242538
>Seethe
>Have the ability to abandon landing crew

[Anonymous No.15242581]

>>15242577
Pepe_smug.jpg

>>15238704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouecRm8cCoY

[Anonymous No.15242583]

>>15242581
>cold fusion
lmao no

[Anonymous No.15242586]

>>15242583
Why?

[Anonymous No.15242588]

>>15242586
Every single attempt at it since the 80s has been revealed to be measurement error or a scam. It's crank bait.

[Anonymous No.15242589]

what the fuck is banging around on the stream audio

[Anonymous No.15242599]

>2023
>still no TRIGA reactor torchships
Why?

[Anonymous No.15242600]

>>15242589
Kate Tice is broadcasting from an active workshop or something lol its so distracting

[Anonymous No.15242602]

>>15242600
literally Astra tier fuckups, even the Alameda site had soundproof pods for mission control

[Anonymous No.15242603]

>>15242600
Well, their workshop is separated by some glass doors to their mission control.

[Anonymous No.15242611]

>>15242602
I think it’s an intentional shtick more than a “damn we chose the wrong spot to do this!”

[Anonymous No.15242613]

>>15242611
>intentional shtick
why, its clearly distracting her too, you heard her stutter

[Anonymous No.15242614]

>>15242611
Why would they waste money getting a separate autism booth for mission control? Works just fine.

[Anonymous No.15242615]

MILF's in space when?

[Anonymous No.15242618]

>>15242583
>>15242588
That's just the name of his channel

[Anonymous No.15242619]

>>15242614
>Jessie+NASA dude
>Kate Tice
>Mission control

3 seperate spacex rooms

[Anonymous No.15242628]

You ever stop and think about how quickly this all came about? Who would have thought in 2015 that one day we’d see ULA up for sale, Boeing and LockMart BTFOd, and a damn NASA worm logo of all things on a Falcon 9 ready to routinely bring astronauts up the the ISS while making a propulsive landing in the same flight

[Anonymous No.15242631]

>>15242500
shut your whore mouth the shuttle is the best. The only times it went wrong were because of the ET/boosters and the booster issue could have been easily solved by not doing the most braindead fucking retarded actions possible in the runup to launch

[Anonymous No.15242634]

>>15242615
Fuck milfs first femboy when?

[Anonymous No.15242635]

>>15242628
and a Saturn V-tier FFSC methalox rocket from the same company waiting to attempt orbit.

[Anonymous No.15242643]

>>15242631
Eliminate the O-rings and shuttle SRBs are reliable as hell
You’re not solving the hydromeme foam/TPS problem though, ever

[Anonymous No.15242644]

>>15242575
It can.

[Anonymous No.15242646]

Man I love the design of the SpaceX walkway. So futuristic. I wonder what the starship one will look like

[Anonymous No.15242647]

>>15242643
>You’re not solving the hydromeme foam/TPS problem though, ever
the other side of the bipod ramp never lost foam, just put another big oxygen pipe on the left side and you're GG
FYI NASA I take cash

[Anonymous No.15242652]

>>15242631
Best at crew losses lmao shuttlenigger

[Anonymous No.15242654]

What did he mean by this?

>>15242646
In keeping with the Starship and Cybertruck aesthetic it will be a shiny steel box.

[Anonymous No.15242655]

t-11 mins

[Anonymous No.15242659]

All this hype just because it’s a crew launch and I’m still only watching for the booster landing, per usual

[Anonymous No.15242660]

0g indicator will be a heart

[Anonymous No.15242665]

>>15242659
we are watching for the off chance we get a crew explosion death kino

[Anonymous No.15242667]

https://youtu.be/kR3ByIaIdiQ
Start at T-6:05

[Anonymous No.15242669]

>>15242665
Will we ever get spaceflight that is as safe as riding in a plane?

[Anonymous No.15242670]

>>15241763
NASA is far from the best it could be, but everyone else is so mediocre they're still the best of all.

[Anonymous No.15242671]

>>15242631
fuck the shuttle lmaaooooo

[Anonymous No.15242672]

ARE YOU GUYS FUCKIN READY??????? WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15242673]

>>15242634
yousuck failed us

[Anonymous No.15242676]

>>15242669
Only if we get magic woo-woo overunity drives. Otherwise launch vehicles will always be giant chemical or nuclear bombs.

[Anonymous No.15242677]

>>15242669
Nah, sitting on a liquid fuel/oxidiser missile is inherently unsafe. Could get very reliable but 747 tier reliability seems unlikely although perhaps.

[Anonymous No.15242687]

1 MINUTE TO LAUNCH

[Anonymous No.15242690]

>No Clear-chan

[Anonymous No.15242691]

countdown to scrub
what is it going to be this time?

[Anonymous No.15242692]

HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.15242694]

[Anonymous No.15242695]

WE GAAAAAAAN

[Anonymous No.15242696]

LIFTOFF!

[Anonymous No.15242697]

[Anonymous No.15242698]

[Anonymous No.15242701]

Extra kino plume tonight

[Anonymous No.15242702]

MaxQute!

[Anonymous No.15242703]

>>15242667
thanks, that was fucking awesome

[Anonymous No.15242704]

>>15242702

[Anonymous No.15242705]

zero g indicators are the cringiest thing to happen in spaceflight

[Anonymous No.15242706]

>Zero g indicator is a Clear plush

[Anonymous No.15242707]

KINO

[Anonymous No.15242708]

stage separation

[Anonymous No.15242709]

I'M PLUUUUUUUUUUMING!!!!

[Anonymous No.15242710]

camera is fucked

[Anonymous No.15242712]

>>15242667
It lined quite well when they showed the lights on the land, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.15242713]

goddamn this shit never gets old

[Anonymous No.15242714]

>>15242669
Yes, for belter chads. Planet cucks will always need to ride an absurd controlled explosion on the rare occasions when they are permitted to leave their gravity wells

[Anonymous No.15242715]

Was this reused booster?

[Anonymous No.15242719]

>>15242715
Crew flights are always virgin boosters

[Anonymous No.15242720]

>>15242715
Fresh one, swapped out for the one that failed to squirt tea-teb.

[Anonymous No.15242721]

I hate watching crew launches, I keep seeing the capsule explode pretty much every few seconds. only ISS docking is comfy

[Anonymous No.15242722]

>>15242713
This is heresy.

[Anonymous No.15242723]

>>15242713
sauce

[Anonymous No.15242726]

>>15242719
No they're not. They went away from that after the first few flights.

[Anonymous No.15242728]

>>15242719
NASA only puts their worm on virgins. Chad agency.

[Anonymous No.15242729]

Very off the mark

[Anonymous No.15242730]

>>15242721
crew annihilation is kino tho

[Anonymous No.15242731]

THATS TOO EASY

[Anonymous No.15242732]

>>15242728
Actually after DM-2, NASA has made SpaceX put the worm logo on the 2nd stage so the 1st stage doesn't display the log for non-NASA missions.

[Anonymous No.15242733]

>>15242715
Not this time,but usually yeah

[Anonymous No.15242734]

101th consecutive booster landing

[Anonymous No.15242735]

>>15242734
damn, that's one more than a hundred

[Anonymous No.15242736]

sketchy landing damn, still got it thought nice

[Anonymous No.15242737]

Elon can't keep getting away with it.

[Anonymous No.15242738]

>Europoors
>WHY DO AMERICANS CLAP?
Because we can!

[Anonymous No.15242740]

>>15242735
100th was yesterday lmao (i think, or two days ago)

[Anonymous No.15242741]

>>15242729
it's over

[Anonymous No.15242742]

They getting real cheeky

[Anonymous No.15242743]

>happy to get you off tonight

[Anonymous No.15242744]

>airline banter
topkek

[Anonymous No.15242745]

Mmm sushi

[Anonymous No.15242746]

>Screen has /sfg/ tab

[Anonymous No.15242747]

uhh...is that a Kerbal?

[Anonymous No.15242748]

>>15242743
jesse can get me off any time brother

[Anonymous No.15242750]

dear lord the cringe.

[Anonymous No.15242752]

Russian hack???? WTF IT'S OVR

[Anonymous No.15242753]

>>15242743
someone's HAD to have had sex in space by now...right?

[Anonymous No.15242755]

>>15242746
kek

[Anonymous No.15242756]

>>15242743
I wish SpaceX would get me off sometime.

[Anonymous No.15242757]

Lol he didnt really say that did he? Incoming geopolitical drama...

[Anonymous No.15242758]

>>15242747
Nope. The Starliner did have a kerbal though

[Anonymous No.15242760]

>For All Mankind

[Anonymous No.15242759]

>>15242757
I can't understand a word he's saying.

[Anonymous No.15242761]

pretty lame 0g indicator

[Anonymous No.15242762]

Mashallah

[Anonymous No.15242763]

Holy shit there's a terrorist on the dragon

[Anonymous No.15242764]

>>15242757
>Nooooo Russians aren't allowed to say things

[Anonymous No.15242765]

>leg outside the circle

[Anonymous No.15242766]

>>15242765
High seas tonight.

[Anonymous No.15242767]

WRAP IT UP

[Anonymous No.15242768]

>>15242743
Thank you so much

[Anonymous No.15242774]

>Backup motors on nose cone
It's over.

[Anonymous No.15242776]

Uh oh.....failed motors on the nosecone

[Anonymous No.15242777]

>>15242765
>Can't even get it in the circle every time
How are they going to land starship on chopsticks?

[Anonymous No.15242778]

>>15242777
SuperHeavy can true-hover and do fine adjustments before going between the sticks.

[Anonymous No.15242780]

>>15242764
what's the problem? theyre savages

[Anonymous No.15242781]

How come clear didn't do a live stream tonight? Is she getting pregnant? >Ib4 "she"

[Anonymous No.15242783]

>>15242777
They don't, it's unironically over. Send Felon to prison and leave the rocketry to the experts

[Anonymous No.15242784]

>>15242781
Elon married Clear

[Anonymous No.15242785]

>>15242778
*runs out of fuel*

[Anonymous No.15242786]

>they didn't call the nosecone opening the Dragon's mouth opening
missed opportunity 2bh

[Anonymous No.15242787]

>>15242778
highly doubt it

[Anonymous No.15242790]

>>15242778
holy cope

[Anonymous No.15242791]

>>15242787
ok doomer

[Anonymous No.15242793]

>>15242781
he was getting sex-reassignment surgery

[Anonymous No.15242794]

>>15242786
cringe
>>15242781
she did a 4hr stream earlier, not sure what her problem is

[Anonymous No.15242797]

>>15242794
>not sure what her problem is
It's 3pm in Japan, she probably has a day job.

[Anonymous No.15242798]

so cute :)

[Anonymous No.15242799]

whitebros...we lost another one

[Anonymous No.15242800]

>>15242790
>33 vs 9 engines
It'll have vastly higher control over rate of descent than F9.

[Anonymous No.15242801]

>first kiss during a rocket launch
>proposed during another launch
is he /ourguy/?

[Anonymous No.15242802]

>>15242799
they can have her

[Anonymous No.15242803]

>>15242799
is that anon from the other night launch attempt

[Anonymous No.15242805]

>>15242801
unironically kino, imagine how much he'd have been seething if the flight got scrubbed though

[Anonymous No.15242806]

>>15242799
She had an Arabic name too. False alarm.

[Anonymous No.15242808]

>>15242799
This will keep happening if Europe keeps being behind India's space achievements

[Anonymous No.15242810]

anon, why didnt you propose to me at the rocket launch?

[Anonymous No.15242811]

MaxCope

[Anonymous No.15242812]

when this thread hits page 10, I'm going to make a rocketlab edition thread

[Anonymous No.15242813]

So I guess there will be docking tonight after all?

[Anonymous No.15242814]

>>15242797
>has a job
>gets to larp as a qt grill and talk about their favorite interest (spaceflight) in their down time
God I wish that were me

[Anonymous No.15242815]

>>15242812
NOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15242817]

>>15242810
Was going to but out of an abundance of caution decided to postpone

[Anonymous No.15242818]

>>15242812
I like them, but why now?

[Anonymous No.15242820]

>>15242814
What's stopping you?

[Anonymous No.15242822]

>>15242815

[Anonymous No.15242823]

Ok, but what did that russian guy say though

[Anonymous No.15242825]

>>15242818
rocketlab investor day
TO THE MOON (and venus)

[Anonymous No.15242826]

>>15242823
He said what we were all thinking

[Anonymous No.15242829]

>>15242826
Hitler did nothing wrong?

[Anonymous No.15242830]

>>15242823
He calls SpaceX's system a masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.15242837]

he literally said aloha snackbar...on an INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT

[Anonymous No.15242842]

>>15242830
Soyuz bros...

[Anonymous No.15242843]

>>15242837
No, not the arab. Who cares what they have to say.

[Anonymous No.15242845]

>>15242765
It's over for america. The dragon will soon triumph over the eagle

[Anonymous No.15242848]

>>15242799
Hey it's mental outlaw. Why is he here in /sci/

[Anonymous No.15242850]

>>15242797
>>15242794
>>15242781
She is on a trip

[Anonymous No.15242852]

Staging
>>15242851
>>15242851
>>15242851
>>15242851

[Anonymous No.15242853]

>>15242669
Why would you want to be safe?

[Anonymous No.15242855]

>>15242830
there's no way in hell

[Anonymous No.15243039]

>>15242547
>Starship after it launches 500 times before 2028

[Anonymous No.15243100]

>>15240834
Here's your spacesuit, bro.

[Anonymous No.15243152]

>>15242157