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/sfg/ Space Flight General Anonymous Mon Jan 2 08:40:08 2023 No.15094170 [Reply] [Original]

2023 is the year of human space flight

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 08:42:02 2023 No.15094175 >>15094170 >No Polaris Dawn Why? It’s scheduled for March with no reason for a delay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 08:43:21 2023 No.15094176 >>15094175 I’m retarded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 08:44:18 2023 No.15094178 File: 950 KB, 958x1196, rocketman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094170 Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 08:56:49 2023 No.15094193 >>15094176 we already knew that!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:00:16 2023 No.15094198 File: 334 KB, 1920x2087, 70B47BCC-1320-45A4-9A5F-05ACC5DC4E47.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So it's almost been a year since SpaceX started building B9...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:04:03 2023 No.15094203 >>15094170 all that and it's still less than a year when shuttle was around

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:05:41 2023 No.15094209

>>15094198
I think a lot of time's been spent reworking these boosters after the various deficiencies were discovered in B7's testing campaign to date. SpaceX probably would have happily flown and blown up these vehicles before the FAA started raising a huge stink about exploding Starships with SN11.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:08:13 2023 No.15094214 >>15094209 Correction, the NTSB, which put a lot of political pressure on the FAA.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:16:17 2023 No.15094224 >>15094214 Congressmen pressured FAA to slowdown SpaceX Biden put forward new NTSB head to stop/slowdown Elon Musk NTSB buttheads with FAA to stop/slowdown SpaceX etc etc

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:18:18 2023 No.15094227

>>15094214
both NTSB and FAA need a shakeup in management, especially in regards to commercial space. Autry noted that it's pretty grim right now at the FAA specifically. NASA has been coasting off of Big Jim's contracting spree and Trump-implemented policies. The new contracts for space suits and commercial leo destinations are looking sus lately, and those were issued under the current admin. And now Zurbuchen has retired. NASA is poised to go downhill fast without another injection of commercial space management a la Greg Autry, Jeff Greason, or even Lori Garver.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:41:08 2023 No.15094253 >>15094227 is FAA still convinced 5G makes planes explode?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:51:08 2023 No.15094257 >>15094253 5G interferes with radio altimeter, which gives the plane's their ability to tell what altitude its flying at accurately. Interference = in accurate sensors = crashing planes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:54:41 2023 No.15094262 >>15094257 boeing can put their heads together and make better planes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:56:14 2023 No.15094264 >>15094262 Thats neat, but no one's replacing all their fleet overnight nor over the next 10 years. It will take another 20-30 year to replace the entire fleet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:56:28 2023 No.15094265 >>15094164 Elon Musk is 51. Space is. Old.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 09:59:37 2023 No.15094268 >It takes 30 years to replace the radar stop posting

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:04:20 2023 No.15094273 >>15094253 >>15094257 This wouldn't be a problem if the US didn't insist on having retarded bands for mobile phone communication.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:05:07 2023 No.15094274 >>15094264 OTA update

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:05:59 2023 No.15094276 >>15094264 >>15094257 Doesn’t seem to have been a problem outside of the states.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:08:02 2023 No.15094278 File: 3.48 MB, 5040x3225, United_States_Frequency_Allocations_Chart_2016_-_The_Radio_Spectrum.pdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094273 >>15094276 spectrum allocation makes me want to kill myself

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:10:48 2023 No.15094279 >>15094273 This wouldn't be a problem if the FCC insisted on decent receiver stages for radio altimeters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:11:27 2023 No.15094280 >>15094278 >surely I can’t be that ba- Dear god

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:16:40 2023 No.15094283 >>15094278 >radio astronomy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:17:17 2023 No.15094284 >>15094283 Literally delete all of that and put it on the moon RIGHT NOW

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:37:53 2023 No.15094300

>>15094170
>you will never get a government mandated zero g fuck session with the Chinese astronaut girl

Zero gravity sex would be fucking awesome. You could literally balance her entire body on the tip of your dick and move her however you want. Plus she'd have to hold onto you really tight to not fly away while you fuck, and your thrusts would send you sailing gently through the air, its too damn cool.

Soon enough rich people will be bragging about space sex.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:51:25 2023 No.15094309 >mueller’s special bathroom trip qrd?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 10:52:27 2023 No.15094313 >>15094309 We swore an oath to keep his secret. You had to be there

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:00:12 2023 No.15094319 >>15094300 >You could literally balance her entire body on the tip of your dick and move her however you want Also means her body would snap your dick off like a twig in any wrong move

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:01:04 2023 No.15094321 File: 354 KB, 754x1142, EF420623-2632-4F58-B7AE-5B6D4DFE0651.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094309 Mueller liked a video of a dude jerking off on Twitter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:01:31 2023 No.15094322 >>15094321 This is false.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:03:39 2023 No.15094327 >>15094198 I miss the days when autists on Twitter were counting the number of rings to track Starship progress.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:05:50 2023 No.15094328 >>15094300 Do male astronauts rub one out every now and then, do they just let themselves get soiled once a while, or are they old enough that they don't have wet dreams that frequent or at all?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:07:07 2023 No.15094329 File: 278 KB, 1602x931, autism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094327 >Texas bolt-counters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:08:47 2023 No.15094331 >>15094322 https://twitter.com/TheMeuller/status/1607034810828029954

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:08:58 2023 No.15094332 >>15094328 I’ve always wondered this. Do astronauts practice NoFap? Also why are female astronauts so ugly? No hate, just curious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:11:53 2023 No.15094335 File: 2.20 MB, 2400x1600, brianna_wu_dust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15093693 >women >she You weren't yet here in 2014, were you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:14:55 2023 No.15094342 File: 590 KB, 2048x1536, sls1.jfif.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094332 >Also why are female astronauts so ugly? It's rare for attractive girls to choose that profession and by the time they become astronauts, they usually get old.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:18:32 2023 No.15094348 File: 138 KB, 1200x630, 19C58727-D93E-4BA6-9144-B0E27312645A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094342 I cannot wait for the day when “normal people” get the chance to fly to space

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:48:23 2023 No.15094384 File: 593 KB, 942x432, 3193C9BE-F316-4D88-BDEC-38B97D6871B5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094332 Did you see the new ESA Italian astronaut nominee? She’s decently cute.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:50:13 2023 No.15094387 ISRO is cool, it’s just too bad they have zero money

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:56:52 2023 No.15094397 >>15094257 if only Boeing could make a plane that doesn't explode when a sensor gives a wrong reading. This is the consequence of bloated programming

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 11:58:10 2023 No.15094400 File: 918 KB, 3032x2000, External_Tank.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it does look good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:25:12 2023 No.15094436 >>15094387 All the money going to welfare sirs shit's fucked sirs democracy was a mistake sirs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:28:42 2023 No.15094443 File: 184 KB, 752x1022, space-shuttle-original.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't care what you faggots say the Space Shuttle was beautiful and based

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:37:23 2023 No.15094456 >>15094400 no it doesn't

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:38:30 2023 No.15094459 >>15094443 unholy amalgamation of different interests resulting in a dangerous, expensive abomination

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:39:32 2023 No.15094461

>>15093561
>anyone here feel like isaac arthur videos are 99% filler and goofy speculation?
He often doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. He recently did a whole video about how shortage of Phosphorus might explain the Fermi Paradox. The entire pivoted on his claim that Phosphorus is very rare in the galaxy and produced only by Si-30 capuring a neutron during Type-2 supernovae, a rare reaction during a rare event.
Well I became interested so looked into it, and the latest research is quite different. Phosphorus is very hard to detect in spectra, but as far as we can tell in recent years is fairly common in sun-like stars, about in the same proportions we have it. In addition it's now known that the neutron-capture reaction is inadequate to explain observed quantities of P, and so a more productive reaction is required. Al-27 capturing an alpha particle to produce P-31 plus a gamma ray is proposed.
My point is Isaac Arthur is just another youtuber with an output to maintain and paypigs to satisfy, so he cranks out the content first and checks facts later.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:41:02 2023 No.15094465 >>15094443 Yeah, based on the grift.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:41:09 2023 No.15094466 >>15094443 WOW That looks SO COOOL!!! It's a friggin plane on a rocket HOLY SHIT!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:43:22 2023 No.15094471 >>15094170 >2023 is the year of human space flight If we have a recession in 2023 it would derail a lot of space missions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:47:57 2023 No.15094479 >>15094443 So which bit is the O-ring?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:49:51 2023 No.15094484 >>15094471 Stupid post

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:57:54 2023 No.15094500 >>15094384 based Italians >>15094332 American ones are dykes and Russian women age like milk

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:03:37 2023 No.15094512
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>>15094500
Do the Belarusian astronaut count? They should fly this year (tho with the Soyuz leak this may be delayed)
Even that one Russian actress they sent for that movie was not very cute.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:03:50 2023 No.15094513 File: 252 KB, 880x602, 1657880670671.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the chinese station is looking better https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1609821305330884608

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:10:44 2023 No.15094528 File: 144 KB, 800x971, EDC029AA-5C8F-4594-AB33-24754ABE93BD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >First japanese woman in space

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:23:35 2023 No.15094544 >>15094443 Reminder that the plane itself and the SSME's were perfect. It was everything else that was an abomination, from SRB's, to the supporting infrastructure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:25:06 2023 No.15094546 >>15094544 >perfect plane with aerodynamics of a brick

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:29:51 2023 No.15094554
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>>15094513
I hate how closed chinks are compared to other space agencies.

Like all we get are two or three shitty low-res images published by state new agencies per program. Pic related, the first lunar soft-lander since Luna-24 in 1976.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:32:22 2023 No.15094556 File: 1.15 MB, 3840x2292, ENbmKZ7VUAANlIT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094554 Chang'E-4 has some decent images

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:35:48 2023 No.15094559 >>15094556 That's a bit better, but is there like a big CSNA photo archive you can freely peruse like the colossal Apollo photo archive NASA hosts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:43:16 2023 No.15094570 >>15094546 retard post >>15094544 incorrect though. the tiles were bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:44:08 2023 No.15094571 File: 3.22 MB, 10000x1229, The_first_panorama_from_the_far_side_of_the_moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094559 Not that I'm aware, probably not

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:44:39 2023 No.15094573 >>15094559 The NASA mars photo archives are even better. We get to see every single downlinked image.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:51:56 2023 No.15094586

>>15094571
Eh, two more years and who cares, we'll have humans with go-pros walking around.

Then again, I'll see it when I believe it. It's 2023 already, is Starship HLS and the Gateway modules even built yet? I think by this time Grumman already had built one LEM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:52:42 2023 No.15094590 >>15094300 sounds fucking awful desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:53:46 2023 No.15094591 >>15094397 joseph boeing is turning and exploding in his grave

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:55:35 2023 No.15094594 >>15094321 Wrong. Check the archive if any anons want to know what really happened (I deleted the archive)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:55:53 2023 No.15094596 First for maxon precision actuators.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 13:58:08 2023 No.15094599 >>15094335 wait a minute....THAT BRIANNA WU?? i hadnt heard about that cunt in so long. I thought the name sounded familiar fuck me how long have I been here? gamergate ahahaha FUCK

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:00:39 2023 No.15094605 >>15094400 it looks like a government turd >>15094443 the shuttle is like a fly on a shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:02:26 2023 No.15094609 >>15094471 it would derail missions in 2025-2027

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:19:58 2023 No.15094637
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Do you ever lurk around google maps looking for a potential site for a spaceport?

There's an uninhabited island called Noman's Land (yes really), off the Massachusetts coast that would be perfect for small lift launch systems like Firefly, potentially connecting with the tech industries in nearby Boston.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:26:48 2023 No.15094647 >>15094637 but what about the critically endangered water shrew?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:31:22 2023 No.15094651 File: 49 KB, 840x523, shuttle devil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094443 >the Space Shuttle literally Saitanic

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:36:25 2023 No.15094661

https://idlewords.com/2023/1/why_not_mars.htm
>The goal of this essay is to persuade you that we shouldn’t send human beings to Mars, at least not anytime soon. Landing on Mars with existing technology would be a destructive, wasteful stunt whose only legacy would be to ruin the greatest natural history experiment in the Solar System. It would no more open a new era of spaceflight than a Phoenician sailor crossing the Atlantic in 500 B.C. would have opened up the New World. And it wouldn’t even be that much fun.
Lol who is this guy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:38:39 2023 No.15094665 File: 52 KB, 602x536, brianna moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094599 Let's not be too harsh; he shares the delusion of the power of thrown roggs with many /sfg/ posters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:52:18 2023 No.15094678 >>15094661 >Lol who is this guy? You tell me, you're the one posting him

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:56:29 2023 No.15094686 >>15094678 he's a fag, Maciej Ceglowski https://idlewords.com/resume.htm

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:00:28 2023 No.15094695 >>15094599 >cunt he wishes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:01:56 2023 No.15094698 >>15094637 EPA *block your spaceport"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:02:00 2023 No.15094699 >>15094661 >>15094686 >websoigrammer >scared of hard challenges in the physical world okay. stronger men than him will do it and succeed gloriously

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:05:50 2023 No.15094705 File: 80 KB, 523x800, 5741_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094512 they are still fresh but wait a decade or two

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:06:04 2023 No.15094706 File: 685 KB, 1170x806, B80AB79E-0EC0-4BD5-B70C-656B1D939AC1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:06:47 2023 No.15094710 >>15094706 surreal amount of delusion

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:08:58 2023 No.15094715 >>15094699 i briefly read some of his other articles and he's quite repulsive. apparently nytimes and other shitrags ask him to write op eds. i'm trying to understand why. like he doesnt seem like that important or influential

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:11:14 2023 No.15094718 File: 181 KB, 773x1160, Valentina_Tereshkova_(2017-03-06).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094512 look at this Cruella looking crone

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:14:12 2023 No.15094723 >>15094718 I don't know her but she looks like an insufferable cunt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:14:54 2023 No.15094725 >>15094723 >I don't know her go back to twitter

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:17:34 2023 No.15094729
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Do you ever wonder what life would be life on Earth if we lived in a binary star system?

I'm particularly fond of an imaginary scenario where we replace the four outer planets with an M5 or M6 type red dwarf about the size of Proxima Centauri, and give the two stars an average seperation of around 20 AU (comparable to the width of Uranus' orbit).

I'd figure the Earth would still receive the overwhelming majority ( >99%) of its energy from the main sun. "Sol B" would be visible in the daytime sky as a bright star, and in the night sky it would cast a glow somewhat like an incandescent bulb; possibly bright enough to read by.

There would be primary and secondary seasons. The primary seasons will be the cycle we have already as dictated by the Earth's tilt, whereas the secondary seasons will be dictated by the Earth's position relative to the line between the two stars, which itself moves slowly as the stars take several decades to complete an orbit.

Red dwarfs are known for violent flare behavior that can be detrimental to organic life, but at 15 AU it would be too far from Earth to cause any harm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:18:23 2023 No.15094732 >>15094725 So you do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:18:26 2023 No.15094733 >>15094723 >I don't know her What

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:19:18 2023 No.15094734 >>15094732 >>15094725 https://www.twitter.com/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:20:34 2023 No.15094736 >>15094734 Why are you linking twitter?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:22:19 2023 No.15094739 >>15094734 Ew, no way fag

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:22:31 2023 No.15094741 >>15094736 You have to go back

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:22:32 2023 No.15094742 >>15094443 it was unique but also the second worst rocket to fly >>15094544 >hydrogen >perfect

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:24:22 2023 No.15094746

>>15094729
>Do you ever wonder what life would be life on Earth if we lived in a binary star system?
Interstellar exploration could be done without needing imaginary fusion drives. Also having a nearby vasty different star to our own Sun would help with understanding stellar evolution. There might even be more spaceflight fans as having a whole other star right there would be inspiring.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:24:35 2023 No.15094749 Why not just build an O'Neill cylinder?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:25:04 2023 No.15094750 >>15094749 We will

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:27:00 2023 No.15094754 >>15094637 >Do you ever lurk around google maps looking for a potential site for a spaceport? I usually look for potential sites for a hydroelectric dam in my country

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:27:29 2023 No.15094755 >>15094750 When? I've been waiting so long and no one started to build one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:28:45 2023 No.15094759 >>15094741 How about no?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:29:53 2023 No.15094761 File: 216 KB, 2344x2474, SN8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this year will mark 8 years since sn8 flew

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:30:01 2023 No.15094762
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>>15094749
An issue with spaceborne colonies I'm curious about is expansion. On a planet, the colony could just repurpose more of the surface. In space on a rotating station, things are more complicated. Is it feasible to just make the cylinder longer without messing with its balance too much? Is there a limit to the length of a cylinder before you would have to make a new one? Healthy populations naturally grow unless the colony implements population control laws.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:31:36 2023 No.15094767 >>15094729 Calendars would be wild.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:31:38 2023 No.15094768 >>15094762 I feel like by the time you have the meme tech to build a huge cylinder, building a second cylinder wouldn’t be that difficult

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:32:11 2023 No.15094769 >>15094762 i always wondered how the surface gets recycled? or does it just start to smell like a walmart parking lot over time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:34:12 2023 No.15094774 >>15094637 yeah the ideal geographical location for continental European spaceport is in Almeria, Spain or Tulcea, Romania

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:37:39 2023 No.15094786 File: 1.65 MB, 2160x1884, troonjak.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >How about no?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:38:10 2023 No.15094787 I'm reading all 2001 books. 2001, 2010, 2063, 3001.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:38:27 2023 No.15094788 >>15094786 ? unhinged

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:40:00 2023 No.15094794

>>15094762
If you're using the superior way of balancing O'Neill cylinders which is two counter-rotating tubes with a central bearing hub then adding to the ends of the tubes should be no problem.
You could probably make them very long but at some point you want to start on a new cylinder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:40:21 2023 No.15094797 >>15094787 that's cool anon. i'm reading the King In Yellow. which makes me wonder, is there any good cosmic horror or adjacent space sci fi out there worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:44:26 2023 No.15094807 >>15094797 cosmic horror? uhh Childhood's End, but only tangentially

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:45:42 2023 No.15094810 >>15094224 This is pure nonsense. The FAA and the govt has given preferential treatment to SpaceX

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:45:44 2023 No.15094811 >>15094755 we need better space infrastructure first and most importantly lower launch costs, a moon colony would help a lot with that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:47:39 2023 No.15094816 >>15094811 So you're saying we need Starship

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:49:27 2023 No.15094820

Happy new year.

I hate that Starship's momentum has been killed, nothing now for months. Even Musk no longer seems interested in it, having moved on to his new toy and has just pushed it onto someone else like he has done with Tesla. I blame the government.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:51:21 2023 No.15094827 File: 376 KB, 2331x1311, IMG_20180731_120403.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094706 This thing always makes me laugh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:52:27 2023 No.15094829 >>15094820 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_xoC5Y_vOE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:54:40 2023 No.15094839 >>15094706 I used to do this with my spaceplanes in ksp, except that it ejected down instead of up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:55:38 2023 No.15094843 is Bill Nelson really retiring or was that just made up BS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:55:52 2023 No.15094845 >>15094820 retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:58:29 2023 No.15094851 >>15094816 i guess i am

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:58:59 2023 No.15094852
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>>15094827
Wing havers btfo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:03:43 2023 No.15094861 File: 41 KB, 850x551, colony Rubble Asteroid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094749 the 'rubble pile asteroid spun up into receiving bags' seems more promising than ye olde lunar mass drivers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:05:47 2023 No.15094865 >>15094861 I wonder if, at some point, it'll be possible to make super strong concrete from asteroid rocks which can withstand a constant 1g from rotation without an outside layer

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:05:54 2023 No.15094866

>>15094227
Lori got thrown under a steam roller. She's unlikely to ever get into a significant leadership position again. Her actions with CC and SpaceX/HLS backdoor humiliated so many powerful people, she's destined for the NASA closet for as long as she lives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:06:02 2023 No.15094868 >>15094861 This except the >rubble pile asteroid spun up into receiving bags it's a useless gimmick when you can just park your cylinder right next to such an asteroid for conventional material harvesting

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:14:38 2023 No.15094887

>>15094843
He is. Unclear who takes his place. But it seems under him, he's setup a lot of awards towards SpaceX to ensure that whoever inherits its position, they can't fuck with the current momentum. Nelson, ironically, redeemed himself with commercial space and SpaceX's partnership after being properly bought into the fold, the same way that Bridenstine was. Nelson was in a talk with some USAF general, and that general basically just gave it to Bill straight, that because of SpaceX with Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy, the USAF/gov thereby has been saved $40Bn in cost to get to orbit. That $40Bn as a result has been reallocated to future projects simultaneously. That's more capability that the US will project in the coming years as a result. Nelson said those words in a congressional testimony. Since that day, he's basically pushed in favor of SpaceX as far as his political acumen will allow.

But he too likely sees the writing on the wall, that present admin isn't happy with this behavior. Elon is at odds with said admin on nearly every front, some of it justified, some of it arguable. He's done enough to prep SpaceX to continue into the HLS Starship phase of the program, and now wants out, before the infighting between Tesla/present admin bleeds over into SpaceX/NASA partnership and potentially fucks things up unnecessarily, and in consequence, breaks what's been working incredibly well thus far.

That way, if something does go wrong, the fault will align with whoever the administration will appoint next and the geopolitical consequences of that, can be laid squarely at the feet of the appointee. Especially since, for the last 2-ish years, he's been hammering away at Congressional committees that China is copying SpaceX hard and are working to recreate their own Apollo program for Moon AND Mars, and that Congress isn't taking this threat seriously enough. His success on this front has been ~~ AT BEST. So I guess he's taking an exit while he can.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:16:38 2023 No.15094890 >>15094887 That's like 15000 tons to orbit if it were all somehow spent on expendable falcon heavies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:20:25 2023 No.15094898 FURHMEE PAIRWADOX

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:22:33 2023 No.15094908 >>15094898 Interstellar travel just too hard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:23:25 2023 No.15094910 >>15094908 aliens dont exist

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:23:47 2023 No.15094911
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>>15094868
the new method seems better for beginners - you don't need to construct massive spinhab hulls, just use prefab bags which could be made from zylon which exists now unlike carbon memetubes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:24:10 2023 No.15094913 File: 314 KB, 488x396, 17.23.44.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How to enter the wormhole?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:26:15 2023 No.15094918 File: 1.70 MB, 1292x850, Hopper.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's been a long road

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:27:25 2023 No.15094920 File: 1.75 MB, 535x713, SN6 hop.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Getting from there to here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:28:23 2023 No.15094923 File: 52 KB, 612x380, through-the-wormhole.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094913 imaginary energy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:29:12 2023 No.15094925 File: 2.28 MB, 614x441, SN7.1 pop.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's been a long time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:30:18 2023 No.15094927 File: 2.76 MB, 720x1280, SN8 nosecone.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] but my time is finally near

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:31:04 2023 No.15094929 I member when hopper nose fell the fuck off due to wind

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:31:49 2023 No.15094932 File: 2.52 MB, 922x912, SN8 Static fire 2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I will see my dream come alive at last

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:32:57 2023 No.15094935 File: 1.10 MB, 1280x720, SN8 approaches you.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I will touch the sky

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:33:13 2023 No.15094936 >>15094929 The front fell off?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:34:33 2023 No.15094938 File: 1.21 MB, 852x476, sn9.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And they're not gonna hold me down no more, no they're not gonna change my mind

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:34:43 2023 No.15094939 star trek references are cringe

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:36:15 2023 No.15094943 File: 2.78 MB, 1280x720, sn10 landing.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cause I've got faith of the heart, going where my heart will take me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:37:42 2023 No.15094945 File: 2.68 MB, 1280x640, SN11 landing.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've got faith to believe I can do anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:37:53 2023 No.15094946 >>15094918 Enterprise started as a mostly future positive exploration trek. But then they had to write space 9/11 in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:38:55 2023 No.15094947 I wish there were more shows which showed how smelly and filthy space travel is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:39:32 2023 No.15094948 File: 1.42 MB, 852x478, SN15 landing.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've got strength of the soul no one's gonna bend or break me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:41:11 2023 No.15094954 File: 2.28 MB, 3000x1622, Starship over Martian farmland.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can reach any star I've got faith of the heart

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:41:15 2023 No.15094955 >>15094947 And noisy. There is no quiet space hum.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:41:59 2023 No.15094958 >>15094947 i always think about coming face to face with 20 year old poop crumbs on ISS and wonder what i would do in that situation

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:43:46 2023 No.15094961

>>15094946
>space 9/11
I've only seen a handful of episodes, every time I try getting into it I find myself not as interested as I am watching a Voyager rerun. Maybe I just like Kim and Seven and the Doctor more than uh, T'pol? Captain Archer? The weasley guy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:46:45 2023 No.15094966 >>15094946 The first Borg attack was already Trek's 9/11 before 9/11 even happened.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:47:05 2023 No.15094967 >>15094887 based post. Good read. You unironically made me like Nelson now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:48:34 2023 No.15094969 >>15094866 Garver understands the importance of SX but she’s also a bit of an opportunist, shitting on them until she realized she could sell more books by piping them up

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:49:40 2023 No.15094972 >>15094943 the gimbaling looks so organic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:50:10 2023 No.15094974 >>15094887 Thanks, Eric. Would you be interested in coming on my space podcast?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:52:51 2023 No.15094977 First restaurant to open in space?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:54:36 2023 No.15094984 File: 64 KB, 760x554, hibernation.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:55:48 2023 No.15094986

>>15094887
Pretty amazing how we’ve now been through 2 completely different administrations, each tasked with making SLS the “priority,” yet at the same time both administrations have basically been trying to work in unison to course-correct everything that isn’t SLS-Orion in favor of SeX. In my opinion it’s a little bit of “well fuck we don’t have any money and this is the cheapest and most capable option,” but a big part of it also seems to be “spacex is becoming our new favored partner”
It’s just hard to be vocal about the latter part because, unlike historic partners, there isn’t congressional spreading with elon’s company

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:58:00 2023 No.15094988 >>15094986 >, unlike historic partners, there isn’t congressional spreading Good, it was always disgustingly wasteful and improper to do things that way and senators are huge crybabies for crying when asked to fund something not in their districts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:04:06 2023 No.15095001 File: 2.99 MB, 800x1026, SLS_contractors.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094988 Bro why do you hate American rockets being built on American soil by American contractors so much?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:14:31 2023 No.15095027 >>15095001 I have been told repeatedly that I must "hate America" because of my political views. Perhaps there is some truth to that after all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:14:36 2023 No.15095028 File: 477 KB, 1728x1080, TwoRockets.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can we just take a moment to appreciate how good SS looks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:20:27 2023 No.15095045 File: 214 KB, 220x221, BE9334E9-A614-464C-868A-A600545A78BA.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094512 No lie I looked at that pic and made this face

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:22:50 2023 No.15095050 >>15094718 Don’t make fun of Val :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:24:26 2023 No.15095055 File: 373 KB, 1170x727, 0A3D3680-C858-4F6D-9084-705627EDE4DA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/russianspaceweb/status/1609937736063934464

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:25:51 2023 No.15095060 >>15095055 It’s easy to feel bad for Russian space fans. They’re trapped in the post-Shuttle/pre-SpaceX phase America was in

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:25:51 2023 No.15095061 >>15095055 good luck to them I guess

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:26:54 2023 No.15095063 >>15095060 >It’s easy to feel bad for Russians Not really.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:27:33 2023 No.15095065 >>15095063 Man lacks empathy, 2023

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:28:18 2023 No.15095068 >>15095060 For all russian space enthusiasts? Yeah, I doubt anyone isn't disillusioned with the current state of things

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:29:47 2023 No.15095071 I want a spaceship that can do EVERYTHING, is that really too much to ask

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:30:22 2023 No.15095073 File: 1.39 MB, 1280x904, 25A1DBFB-7876-4F67-B293-D036B55626E4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095063 As if the average spaceflight fan is fit for mobilization lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:34:13 2023 No.15095082 >>15095071 >Spaceplane >Airbreathing to Mach 5 >Fusion engine takes it to orbit >Deploys an alcubierre drive for FTL Kino

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:44:20 2023 No.15095099 >>15095055 It'd be better than doing two launches. You'll spend less on launch costs and get a better mechanical results than you would assembling things using docking and spacewalks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:45:11 2023 No.15095102 File: 58 KB, 640x640, gwyunne.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Supposedly the goal for 2023 is 100 launches

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:49:50 2023 No.15095110

It’s funny how lucky SpaceX suddenly got
>Already the cheapest medium-heavy lift launcher in the US
>Vega fails a lot in Europe
>Soyuz pretty much is dead to Europe, too
>Ariane 6 delayed to 2024 probably
>H3 also delayed
>Vulcan completely booked thanks to Jeff Bezos
>Antares gets crapped on (Cygnus flies on Falcon)
It’s funny how SpaceX is in the perfect spot to eat the launch market for at least 1-2 more years

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:53:36 2023 No.15095117 >>15095110 Now imagine if Vulcan explodes on its maiden launch from a BE-4 issue. It will be fucking over for anyone who isn’t Spx

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:55:23 2023 No.15095120 >>15095117 ULA’s only claim to fame is that they have a 100% mission success rate lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:56:41 2023 No.15095121 >>15094332 Marcos Pontes had said you can't get very hard in space because of no gravity affecting the blood flow. Also, it's hard for women to look good in a job that requires so much physical aptitude and so many hours of studying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:03:27 2023 No.15095131 File: 941 KB, 1170x1121, C6241943-D010-4B0A-BC72-4F026DDF740C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Starliner looks cool I’m tired of pretending it doesn’t

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:04:48 2023 No.15095140 File: 1.08 MB, 915x751, no morning wood in space.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095121

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:07:02 2023 No.15095144 >>15094705 Is there a pony inside this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:09:18 2023 No.15095149 >>15095121 >Also, it's hard for women to look good in a job that requires so much physical aptitude nigga you gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:14:26 2023 No.15095160 >>15095110 One could argue Ariane got as lucky in its early years desu. Except SpaceX is much more exciting

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:15:23 2023 No.15095166 Guess how many kg not painting the Shuttle external tank saves

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:18:03 2023 No.15095172 >>15095166 300 kg a footnote compared to the subsequent weight loss with better tanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:20:15 2023 No.15095178 any other rocket that uses external liquid fuel tanks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:22:24 2023 No.15095183 >>15094278 Just use 0 khz what can go wrong

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:22:26 2023 No.15095184

>>15095160
Ariane fucking destroyed the commercial market for 30 years. The 90’s too were such a strange time; China, Russia, and Europe pretty much stole the thunder from America. It’s funny how the US even gave up on commercial launches in the 2000’s - Atlas V 401 cost as much as a full Ariane 5 (at the time), for instance

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:25:02 2023 No.15095192
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>>15095178
That have been built and flown? None that I recall. NASA says that the extra weight from the pumps needed to move propellant from one tank to another isn't worth the benefit of and external tank or asparagus staging. The Shuttle only used it because it was necessary for it to have alot of fuel and a huge cargo bay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:31:19 2023 No.15095209 >>15095149 Female beauty is about sparing the body (and mind) from stress, only exception is to keep low fat and good health.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:39:41 2023 No.15095223

>>15095184
>Ariane being agreed on JUST before the 74 oil crash and recession
>Viking propulsion and general A1-4 architecture being significantly more reliable than anyone predicted
>America retiring pre-STS expendable launchers and being unable
>NASA pushing hard Shuttle commercial launches in the 80s to the point it drove customers away
>EELV launchers being full of congress-bloat preventing competitiveness
>USSR spliting just after it opened its launch market crippled its long term launcher inovation capability
>Commercial soyuz taken advantage of through starsem/Soyuz in kourou
>Hermes mass creep turning out to allow Dual launch on A5
>Not falling for the constellation/small sat launcher meme in the 90s, correctly predicting the 2000-2018 launch market
>China shooting themselves in the foot with Intelsat 708 and the US coming hard on them, then staying on a geopolitically

they got lucky overall

The small mistakes were leaving Proton to lockheed and the fatal one was letting the A5 early failures delay A6's development.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:43:54 2023 No.15095236 >>15094661 >greatest natural history experiment in the Solar System I AM SICK OF SCIENCE FAGS, THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS NOT YOUR PRISTINE LABORATORY FUCK OFF, COLONIZE EVERYWORLD, HUMAN PRESENCE ON EVERY SOLID BODY

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:44:31 2023 No.15095239

>>15095223
>>America retiring pre-STS expendable launchers and being unable
That was probably the worst mistake. You have an awfully expensive, partially reusable launch vehicle where every launch is manned and what do you do? You cancel cheaper, expendable rockets. Peak retardation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:49:22 2023 No.15095246 >>15094661 >The goal of this essay is to persuade you that That's nice now face the wall you vile e*rther scum

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:52:33 2023 No.15095256 >>15095028 Kinda like both desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:53:35 2023 No.15095258 >>15095028 SLS looks like it was made before the shuttle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:53:39 2023 No.15095259 >>15095073 That missile lookin thicc

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:56:48 2023 No.15095268

>>15095223
>Hermes launch mass creep allowing dual launch on A5
This one is huge. Ariane 5 was supposed to only do 6 tons to GTO, but Hermes being fat meant 11 tons to GTO was possible. This kept it alive so long, as a launcher.

>>15095239
This is infuriating. Atlas and Delta and Titan being wound down in preparation of the shuttle, and sadly, they never recovered cost-wise. Titan IV is like $600 million in todays money, and Delta II was $90 million for only 1.5 tons to Gto. Fucking maddening.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:00:01 2023 No.15095274

>>15095223
>Hermes mass creep turning out to allow Dual launch on A5
Dual launch started with the Ariane 4. Being able to split the launch costs between a pair of customers was a big contributor to why Arianespace was able to anschluss 75% of the commercial launch market at one point. The biggest reason why they were developing the Ariane 5 was that geostationary comms birds were getting too big to be dual manifested, and flying with only one customer would severely undercut Ariane's marketability.

>>15095239
There was a logic to it: the more a rocket flies, the cheaper it gets. The problem was that when the shuttle was being designed NASA was planning on using it to build and maintain a space station which could have added a dozen flights per year all on its own. After congress defunded that idea the only way to get the shuttle's cadence up and costs hopefully down was to give it every mission that was planning on launching from Florida. It's still a dumb call compared to keeping the contemporary Atlas and Delta lines open, but its not completely irrational.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:00:05 2023 No.15095275
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So what would’ve happened if NASA either built something like DreamChaser, or kept flying Apollo capsules on Titan/Saturn I, instead of building the shuttle? Basically if NASA went the 70’s Russia route

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:03:53 2023 No.15095282 >>15095275 It would be more boring but less depressing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:05:21 2023 No.15095288 File: 49 KB, 382x584, space shuttle death trap.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095275 There would be 14 people still alive

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:05:39 2023 No.15095290 >>15095209 >he doesn't want a girl with abs low t moment

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:07:09 2023 No.15095293 File: 509 KB, 700x760, 4B9A23EE-8B4C-4FEC-A20D-049A7E1811A6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095290 >Girls with abs Very based

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:08:42 2023 No.15095298 >>15095209 Bullshit, everyone looks better when they're fit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:08:45 2023 No.15095299 >>15095275 Surely in this case you’d go with a modified (shorter) service module. Also at some point solar panels would become more economical than fuel cells.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:09:52 2023 No.15095303 >>15095290 read the exception retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:12:25 2023 No.15095310 >>15095299 Depends on where you’re going. Shuttle was designed without ISS in mind, so it had fuel cells to support pure orbital missions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:13:50 2023 No.15095318 >>15095310 >>15095299 Weren’t there a few Soyuz variants that were only powered by batteries?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:14:27 2023 No.15095320 >>15095303 Nigga, you don't get washboard abs from just low BF%. The ideal girl is doing squats, deadlifts, and benches along with you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:15:42 2023 No.15095324 >>15095209 I feel like girls get much more stressed from school n stuff

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:16:43 2023 No.15095326

>>15095274
You know what I mean... yes of course Sylda was there since A1, but Ariane 5 ended up just the size to allow dual launches through its whole period of activity, including the apex of GSO growth in the mid 2010s (since the market has declined since). Hermes both forced them to make a larger design and make a launcher that had room for growth (which was used for ESC and would have been used for ME)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:16:58 2023 No.15095328 >>15095293 damn. Does she have any naughty photos

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:17:29 2023 No.15095330 >>15095318 Yeah the second generation

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:18:26 2023 No.15095334 File: 66 KB, 736x680, Io_Tupan_Patera.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am patiently waiting for lo images

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:19:32 2023 No.15095338 File: 2.51 MB, 512x640, 57EAF24B-3926-4B1C-9922-F496CD6FFE28.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095326 Why the fuck did Ariane 6 take so long if it literally uses the same core tooling and upper stage of Ariane 5 ME >>15095328 No

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:23:12 2023 No.15095347

>>15095275
Skylab would have kept going, but not for years. Skylab-A was a testing article and it ran it like. The idea was always to learn from that and launch a more reliable Skylab-B on a longer duration mission. That'd mean that we'd get one less Saturn V on display and there wouldn't be a Skylab hull hanging from the ceiling at the National Air and Space Museum.

The Titan would have taken the role of America's flagship launch vehicle and would have continued to evolve. There'd be a reasonable chance we'd actually see one of the wide-body non-hypergolic Titans actually make it to the pad, probably to support a post-Skylab station in the late eighties or early nineties. The Soviets take the lead in LEO with Salyut and Mir, but it's not a huge lead. A lot of the missions that had their schedules wrecked after Challenger would fly on time on Titains. Galileo would launch on schedule without a fucked up main antenna, and would have been near Jupiter in time for Shoemaker–Levy 9 to make its appearance.

Arianespace would still be successful, but without the Shuttle they wouldn't have their opening to become overwhelmingly dominant. With an abundance of American launch options there'd be less leverage for the payload companies to demand that Chinese and Russian rockets get let into the western commercial market. China might get a foot in the door eventually, but the lack of western investment would make the hell of the 1990s even worse for the Russian space sector. Without western commercial launches on the Proton Khrunichev goes under, and without NASA's pre-ISS funding to help keep Roscosmos stable they're probably not the only casualty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:23:21 2023 No.15095348 >>15095293 >>15095320 >>15095290 anon... you're gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:24:46 2023 No.15095354 >>15095334 There was a Forbes article saying they were already released, but there is nothing new on the Junocam website.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:28:24 2023 No.15095363 >>15095338 >No REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:28:27 2023 No.15095364 File: 241 KB, 1055x1639, tomboys.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095348 I refer to the defining scientific treatise on the subject.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:29:35 2023 No.15095366 >>15094170 >2023 >orbital "spaceflight" waow!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:29:39 2023 No.15095368 >>15094954 >Martian farmland Isn't like the soil so toxic scientists don't even begin to have an answer on what to do about it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:30:42 2023 No.15095370 >>15095364 that's not what tomboy means

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:31:37 2023 No.15095372 >>15095368 Nah you just have to heat it up. Perchlorates aren’t that bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:31:43 2023 No.15095373 >>15095364 if you like washboard abs on a woman you are a faggit, simple as

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:32:05 2023 No.15095374

>>15095348
My brother in space, the term is "bisexual."

>>15095338
There are a lot of structural difference between a core that's designed to lifted by two boosters and one that's designed to be lifted by four. Beyond that, Europe is bureaucratic as fuck. They're got good engineers but all of their management are political parasites and there always multiple layers of paperwork needed to appease them. It's a lot like >>15095001 except instead of contractor in fifty different states you've got contractors in fifty different federal governments. The eighth circle of hell is dealing with licensing issues in Europe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:32:10 2023 No.15095375 >>15095368 the ground looks to be covered in circular domes in that image so its presumably filtered soil being used

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:32:39 2023 No.15095378 https://twitter.com/NASASolarSystem/status/1608504861230006273?cxt=HHwWgoDUkcWpx9IsAAAA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:33:44 2023 No.15095381 >>15095373 Counterpoint, you will never bury your head into a cute, sculpted female tummy. Which makes you gay.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:34:40 2023 No.15095383

I need to remind our gentleman that this tomboy BS discussion was about female astronauts.
The working out that makes you look good isn't always the same that makes you beautiful. Bricklayers work a lot with their bodies but they aren't know for their beauty, and what astronauts do is closer to that than someone who goes to the gym.
Also, they probably had many sleepless nights for studying to get their degrees too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:35:27 2023 No.15095387 >>15095338 I feel like I have to kneel in front of her and lick her legs mmm

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:37:29 2023 No.15095391 >>15095383 Nah, the formula is low BF and high muscle development, which is precisely what an astronaut is doing. The fat dad bod truckers aren't going to do very well in a very high G takeoff or in zero g atrophy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:37:54 2023 No.15095393 >>15095378 >The team expects additional images from the pass to be available soon at [JunoCam website] >Dec 29 There are still not new images there. Very sadge since those Europa images came out in the same day as the flyby.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:39:59 2023 No.15095395 >>15095347 >Galileo would launch on schedule without a fucked up main antenna, and would have been near Jupiter in time for Shoemaker–Levy 9 to make its appearance chair_clattering.webm

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:40:14 2023 No.15095397 >>15095393 probably a bit corrupted from the extreme radiation

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:42:10 2023 No.15095401 >>15095395 We could have had a Cassini tier mission on Jupiter and we lost that due to the fucking Shuttle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:44:56 2023 No.15095408 File: 16 KB, 459x422, berry yoko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095401 I knew Galileo was crippled but I never thought about the comet impact timing FUCK

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:47:10 2023 No.15095416 >>15095408 Once SS is operational we need to have orbiters on every planet constantly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:48:33 2023 No.15095423 >>15095416 launch costs are a fraction of the mission cost chud

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:51:37 2023 No.15095427 >>15095423 Don't care. Planets exist to be observed up close. And standardized components could make it cheaper.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:52:17 2023 No.15095430 File: 60 KB, 771x785, D402A5F7-8F90-4504-A619-22C195D46E7D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095408 >>15095395

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:53:17 2023 No.15095433 Wow lots of anti american shuttle hating going on oi vey

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:53:28 2023 No.15095434 File: 694 KB, 1920x1080, abl snow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 1 week until ABL tries again. What will scrub them this time?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:54:39 2023 No.15095435 >>15095434 Launch failure

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 19:58:49 2023 No.15095443 >>15095368 Cover it in Earth dirt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 20:04:06 2023 No.15095455 >>15095423 Nah, it's literally just the electricity bill for the computers and antennae.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 20:13:05 2023 No.15095479 File: 185 KB, 2555x1404, 8905AC9A-0655-4193-9DF1-F7CA9B578D80.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >We’re having a moment here! >Fuck you-

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 20:17:20 2023 No.15095490 So there's gonna be 2 SS launches this week?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 20:33:17 2023 No.15095510 >>15095110 >pretty much is dead It is dead. Nobody is flying Russian except for third world countries.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 20:47:06 2023 No.15095532

>>15095338
>>15095374
This plus
>Loss of skills because they didn't develop a new launcher for 20 years (because A5 was expensive, because A5's early years were rough, because A5 was succesful, because Soyuz-Kourou removed the incentive for new development)
>Arianegroup direction and managment were overly optimistic of their capabilities to redevelop something after 20 years and didn't plan well enough
>Vinci was much harder to develop than planned, changing the way SRBs were attached (top to down) needed complete redesign of the core
>Arianegroup consolidation circa 2014 removed nearly all CNES direction of the project, generally lower public accountability, less transparency all while keeping all the Airbus institutional bloat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 20:54:25 2023 No.15095542 File: 9 KB, 500x369, 1618853472035.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15094278 >AM radio hogging so much bandwidth why is this allowed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 20:58:25 2023 No.15095545 and now that they refused to develop reusablity both Ariane and ULA are going to lose a lot of market

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:00:00 2023 No.15095549 >>15095545 what are SMART and SUSIE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:12:05 2023 No.15095562 has anyone tried bringing a cat or dog to space?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:13:04 2023 No.15095564 >>15095549 approximately 10-20 years behind SpaceX, given their current pace

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:13:22 2023 No.15095565 >>15095532 >No Kino timeline where no one trusts Russia in the 90’s so ArianeSpace keeps Ariane 4 in service as a medium lift launcher >Soyuz isn’t used so Europe develops Hermes rip

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:13:42 2023 No.15095566 Why do we have so many spaceflight secondaries

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:14:44 2023 No.15095569 File: 41 KB, 499x338, 1338985362785.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095562

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:17:06 2023 No.15095575 >>15095566 I'm probably a tertiary or quaternary. I just want to see probes go to space and explore planets en shiett

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:17:41 2023 No.15095577 >>15095575 Do you at least know Valentina and Laika

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:18:10 2023 No.15095578 >>15095564 SUSIE is cool. SMART is a cope that won’t even be attempted until at least 2029 and even then it will sparsely be used except to try and act cute

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:31:24 2023 No.15095602 >>15095578 SMART is an acceptable idea from 25 years ago that would need a Vulcan II to be developed for it to be put into use.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:33:10 2023 No.15095606 File: 30 KB, 580x448, C0EC6347-2BE5-408A-BFF7-2BCCFA77FBA5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095602 SMART literally is an idea from 25 years ago. Boeing used it in their EELV plans from 1992

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:33:54 2023 No.15095607

>>15095565
Ariane 4 was ridiculously expensive
3/4 of Ariane 5 price at 1/4 of the payload capacity
what a bargain!

90s-00s Anti-Soyuz would have been a single EAP stick and and an upper stage
either keeping legacy Ariane 4 derived upper stage or having commonality with Ariane 5's upper stage

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:34:02 2023 No.15095608 >>15095082 single stage to andromeda

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:34:10 2023 No.15095610 >>15095549 and CALLISTO

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:35:11 2023 No.15095613 >>15095608 I actually think dV to Andromeda isn't that high

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:35:12 2023 No.15095614 File: 123 KB, 1199x1146, bf4V5PngsPVpNScG3SQ5-WJSxzqlws4OP_ZJrHzcQGc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095608

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:36:55 2023 No.15095617 >>15095613 Technically zero, if you wait 4bn years

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:38:09 2023 No.15095619
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>>15095565
The Ariane 4 was an expensive and temperamental girl when it came to maintenance and upkeep, and everyone who works with hypergolics dreams of the day when they can move on to a different fuel. If Europe really had to go with a home-grown medium lift launcher they would have picked something derived from the Ariane 5's SRB. This was actually the line of thought that eventually produced the Vega.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:39:02 2023 No.15095622 >>15095542 The scale isn't the same for each row in that graph.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:39:57 2023 No.15095625 >>15095606 I understand why they didn't pick Boeing's EELV bid. I just don't agree with the choice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:40:34 2023 No.15095627 File: 23 KB, 439x670, xeelee nightfighter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095614 > ugly spiky Nightfighters no way fag

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:40:48 2023 No.15095628 File: 542 KB, 1280x720, 3.75 billion years from now Andromeda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095617 SHE'S COMING STRAIGHT FOR US, HIT THE DECK!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:41:27 2023 No.15095629 >>15095619 I know about ALD, but what's the source for that pic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:42:36 2023 No.15095631 >>15094797 Blindsight

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:44:35 2023 No.15095637 >>15095628 First halley comet strikes the moon, now Andromeda will hit it too, poor luna

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:46:13 2023 No.15095641

>>15095614
>>15095627
>/sfg/ full of XeeleeChads
Based

>>15095619
Yeah a launcher based on a “single stick” Ariane 5 booster with varying Ariane 4 solid boosters around it would’ve been interesting.

>>15095625
Agreed but that’s just spaceflight in general. Everyone wishes Saturn V kept flying but it’s not a secret why it was retired so soon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:46:56 2023 No.15095643 >>15095625 Are there books or sources about the EELV history and selection?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:47:09 2023 No.15095644 File: 139 KB, 892x614, Robert McCall lunar mmu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095637 The Moon will have been swallowed by the expanding Sun by then

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:47:25 2023 No.15095645 File: 43 KB, 700x527, fig268.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095606 idea is older than that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:47:29 2023 No.15095646 File: 296 KB, 1x1, 6.1992-3306.pdf [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095629 "AIAA 92-3306: Solid Propulsion Systems For Small Launchers Derived From Ariane 5" from the AIAA's 28th Joint Propulsion Conference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:47:36 2023 No.15095648 >>15095643 When in doubt search it up on NTRS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:49:49 2023 No.15095650 >>15095644 Big chance of that, but not certain yet

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:50:25 2023 No.15095653 >>15095641 Listen man, Baxter has his issues but he's a certified hood classic around here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:51:30 2023 No.15095656 >>15095646 uh nice, thanks, do you have other Ariane related AIAA pdf?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:53:46 2023 No.15095660 >>15095650 eeh the yuuuge solar wind from a young red giant is gonna act on it badly. no more sailing through a vacuum.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:55:39 2023 No.15095663 >>15095490 Isnt the Space Shuttle retired

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:56:22 2023 No.15095667

>>15095643
Not that I've seen. Most of the stuff I've read about the selection been second hand and kinda vague, but it does add up eventually.

Lockheed got picked because they had good relationship with the USAF through the Titan program and McDonnell got picked because the Delta II was a commercial success at the time and everything looked like that trend would continue, which would help subsidize the government's launch manifest.

Boeing was a major player in aerospace but it was a subcontractor in spaceflight and had never manged a full launch program, let alone one with an ambitious reuse goal. Alliant Techsystems were a bunch of crazy people who thought you could just strap a bunch of solids together to get an get an EELV, without realizing that it's not that easy in rocketry. Also after the SRMU debacle the Air Force really didn't like the idea of R&Ding even more solid stages.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:58:50 2023 No.15095675 >>15095660 well, maybe there'll be something we can do by then to move her orbit and save her

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:01:31 2023 No.15095681 Maybe the real spaceplanes were the flying charred corpses we hurled along the way

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:03:17 2023 No.15095686 >>15095656 Probably? I've got a big completely unsorted folder of old AIAA spaceflight docs, but I got all of those by digging through their search (arc.aiaa.org) and then dumping all of the DOI numbers into Sci-hub.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:05:05 2023 No.15095691 File: 382 KB, 1024x724, 1662219846710068.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So what can be done regarding the supposed chinese plans to claim a juicy chunk of the lunar surface for themselves? Get there first and claim before the others do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:09:05 2023 No.15095694 >>15095691 Pretty much. Long March 9 is also horribly delayed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:09:23 2023 No.15095696 >>15095691 The moon has lots of surface to go around. If China never does anything with it we'll just get complacent again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:09:49 2023 No.15095698 >>15095691 i guess thats what the space force is for

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:11:15 2023 No.15095699 >>15095691 congress is calling ballast's bluff. there is no moon race

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:11:23 2023 No.15095700 >>15095691 You can ignore all the claims on the Moon. Just respect "personal space" (~20km around the base or so) and nobody will do shit.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:11:42 2023 No.15095701
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>>15095675
We'll have to move Earth anyway as the Sun brightens
>Various mechanisms have been proposed to accomplish the move. The most plausible method involves redirecting asteroids or comets roughly about 100km wide via gravity assists around Earth's orbit and towards Jupiter or Saturn and back. The aim of this redirection would be to gradually move Earth away from the Sun, keeping it within a continuously habitable zone. This scenario has many practical drawbacks: besides the fact that it spans timescales far longer than human history, it would also put life on Earth at risk as the repeated encounters could cause Earth to potentially lose its Moon, severely disrupting Earth's climate and rotation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Earth

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:14:39 2023 No.15095704 >>15094774 >Romania Debuff to the rocket assembly. >>15094861 Most of the 'roid will crumble fast if you dare to spin them.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:15:35 2023 No.15095705

>>15095694
The LM-9 is going to be a 2030s debut for sure, but the LM-5G is more than enough to run a lunar exploration program, and it's 2027 launch date isn't completely unreasonable. A real base would have to wait for the LM-9 but China's not talking about that until at least 2035 anyway.

Getting some boots on the regolith to contest an absolute claim is really all we can really talk about doing without China making some kind of clear policy statement to refute. All that's getting passed around now is just extrapolations of China's standing policy of making claims about shit that's not actually theirs, with the added layer of the moon not having any concrete strategic importance unlike the islands and reefs they keep building shit on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:22:38 2023 No.15095717 i'd so sick of this solar system

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:29:32 2023 No.15095722
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What free online courses and books you'd recommend a zoomer who wants to do some rocket science stuff?
I think it'd be best to learn how the launch vehicles are designed. Nevermind the rocket company stuff and so on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:30:27 2023 No.15095723 >>15095722 Physics, math, engineering on mit opencourseware

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:39:58 2023 No.15095736 >>15095717 What's the most mapped planetary system?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:44:28 2023 No.15095739 >>15095736 probably moona

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:44:50 2023 No.15095740 >>15095667 Goddamn that Alliant proposals lmao.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:45:08 2023 No.15095741 >>15095717 we should glass it all

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:53:18 2023 No.15095750 >>15094762 You just build another cylinder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 23:05:50 2023 No.15095763 >>15095736 moon if you consider that 70% of Earth is ocean and 99.5% of the ocean is unexplored

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 23:11:46 2023 No.15095773 >>15095739 >>15095763 >midwits not knowing what a planetary system means

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 23:12:12 2023 No.15095774 >>15094661 >Lol who is this guy? Someone whose primary interest is getting money for his pet projects.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 23:18:13 2023 No.15095776 File: 168 KB, 1024x683, liberty.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095740 Some things never change

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 23:22:09 2023 No.15095778 >>15095776 It wouldn't have been so bad if it was actually the first time someone proposed adding an Ariane 5 core to some American SRBs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 23:31:44 2023 No.15095784 File: 154 KB, 570x652, planets.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095773 wrong

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 23:56:53 2023 No.15095815

>>15094762
>>15094749
I get cylinders, I really do.
But something about them makes my mistrustful.
I get a vibe like
>you don't want to live in a dome on that stupid old planet anon
>come and live in my tightly controlled habitat with literally no escape unless the management allows it, and nothing around for millions of miles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:04:33 2023 No.15095823 >>15095110 It's not luck. It's hard work from SpaceX. Suppose SpaceX had failed in 2012. Where would the "luck" be by now? Nonsuch thing.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:09:17 2023 No.15095832
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Reminder that when you look into it, abiogenesis is so laughably, absurdly unlikely that it's just straight up impossible, so either

>we are alone, because that shit ain't happening twice in the lifespan of the universe

or

>Some kind of higher power/intelligent designer/god/whatever intervenes to push along the correct chiral proteins>DNA>cell>multicell process

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:09:52 2023 No.15095836 >>15095832 >>Some kind of higher power/intelligent designer/god/whatever stop with your anthropocentrism

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:14:30 2023 No.15095845 >>15095832 >abiogenesis is so laughably, absurdly unlikely How do you know? Have you figured out how it happens? Because from what we can tell life appeared almost immediately on Earth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:14:43 2023 No.15095846 >>15095832 Who cares if aliens exist or not. Should we look? Yeah. Does it have any implications? No. Abiogenesis is possible even without direct experimental evidence, it’s literally just a common sense thing

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:19:30 2023 No.15095857

>>15095836
Call it what you want fag, you know what I mean.

>>15095845
>Have you figured out how it happens?

Well yes actually, there is a great deal of experiments in this field as to how chiral proteins and DNA can form in a hot soup and almost all the people at the top who spend a lot of time in it end up coming to the conclusion that intelligent design of some kind is real. Just look at how a """basic""' cell works you dumb nigger and if you think random strands of DNA in a pool (that are basically impossible for even a single one to form, let alone survive the reverse chiral proteins or survive for any length of time) can come together to create that I have a bridge to sell you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:22:28 2023 No.15095861 File: 55 KB, 400x1024, 70s guy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095832 interstellar panspermia means we'll never solve biogenesis, biofags will just have to cope and seethe

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:22:40 2023 No.15095862 >>15095832 who made god? there's enough arbitrary shit in DNA and proteins that an accident seems more likely

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:24:38 2023 No.15095864 >>15095857 >Call it what you want fag, you know what I mean. You do realise "laws of physics" is in the same category as "god/higher power"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:24:56 2023 No.15095865 File: 350 KB, 725x684, this woman has lost her composure.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095857 >you dumb nigger

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:26:42 2023 No.15095868

>>15095861
Even if panspermia is a thing, which is pretty unlikely given the hostility and timeframes involved during natural space travel, all it does is shift the abiogenesis problem to another place.

>>15095862
>who made God

Sure, but if God or something similar doesn't exist then what made the universe? Just popped out of nothing because ???? OK bro *tips fedora*

>>15095864
The fields of physics and chemistry point to abiogenesis being an impossibility so no.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:27:00 2023 No.15095869 how much industrial development on moon or mars is required to build an oneill cylinder? will it need to be urban hellscape level? populations of millions?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:28:50 2023 No.15095871 >>15095868 i dont know, but a god doesnt answer the question because a god popping out of nothing makes just as much sense

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:30:17 2023 No.15095873 >>15095868 >what made the universe? I don't know Why do you feel you have to make up an answer when you also don't know?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:31:18 2023 No.15095874 >>15095871 If God doesn't exist, how do you explain my beliefs?

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:33:30 2023 No.15095877

>>15095873
>Why do you feel you have to make up an answer when you also don't know?

I don't, you are projecting onto me. But abiogenesis is very clearly an intractable problem given how chemistry and physics works and we know enough about how these work in this context, so the answer is pretty simple that something stepped in to make it happen.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:34:38 2023 No.15095879
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>>15095868
>Even if panspermia is a thing, which is pretty unlikely given the hostility and timeframes involved during natural space travel
Nah, bugs chilling in a rock can go to another star easy as pie
>all it does is shift the abiogenesis problem to another place.
too bad, no one promised any answers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:35:09 2023 No.15095880 File: 26 KB, 1484x1116, proofster 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095877 >But abiogenesis is very clearly an intractable problem given how chemistry and physics works Where are the proofs >inb4 "people at the top"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:36:26 2023 No.15095882 >>15095877 >we know enough about how these work in this context We don't know shit

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:38:55 2023 No.15095886

>>15095880
>Where are the proofs

Feel free to look at quite literally any video on the subject. I can link you some if you are incapable of performing a simple internet search?

>>15095882
We don't know shit about proteins and basic chemistry? This isnt esoteric particle physics. Take your medicine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:44:23 2023 No.15095892 File: 27 KB, 590x350, el.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095874 god does exist (it's me)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:45:57 2023 No.15095894 >>15095892 can you miracle me a gf, thanks bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:50:36 2023 No.15095900 File: 60 KB, 711x533, Davis Meltzer space station.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095894 God can't do logical impossibilities, read Aquinas

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 00:56:04 2023 No.15095904 >>15095900 Uhhhh, based

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:01:36 2023 No.15095912 File: 717 KB, 897x693, EVEREST.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cute

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:09:30 2023 No.15095928 >>15095912 >fairing jettison >structure jettison Ngmi, also can they not afford more than a 144p image or are you incapable of saving a decent resolution picture?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:14:00 2023 No.15095935 We're all God's tulpas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:14:34 2023 No.15095936 >>15095935 Opposite. God is a tulpa of ours

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:28:13 2023 No.15095948 >>15095857 Pretty sure the prevailing idea isn't "chiral proteins and DNA" just stick together in the right way in a hot soup. It has to be something more simple than that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:29:50 2023 No.15095949 File: 262 KB, 855x653, EVEREST2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095928 Can't find better resolution

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:33:58 2023 No.15095953 >>15095857 RNA formed spontaneously and easily on prebiotic Earth

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:35:24 2023 No.15095955 >>15095900 kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:35:47 2023 No.15095957 File: 174 KB, 1280x720, not good.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095912 >>15095949

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:42:35 2023 No.15095965 File: 984 KB, 1000x750, touhou_space.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i feel like dearmoon wont happen before artemis 3, which wont happen until 2030

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:56:15 2023 No.15095979 >>15095965 Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 01:57:28 2023 No.15095981 >>15095965 Dearmoon will happen this year.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:00:11 2023 No.15095985 File: 841 KB, 2048x2581, faget.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095949 >Straight wing Faget design Based. Death to delta wings

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:00:11 2023 No.15095986 File: 1018 KB, 4096x4096, FlfLqTcXwAA1cuB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] stats

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:03:46 2023 No.15095992 File: 18 KB, 400x242, 1644571636150.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095965 >pic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:04:14 2023 No.15095993 >>15095986 Man what happened to Japan, India launched more than them, sad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:05:28 2023 No.15095998 >>15095993 South Korea beat Japan is the more interesting take, given the nature of their "rivalry"

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:12:12 2023 No.15096012

>>15095993
The H-IIA is a reliable rocket, but it's never been able to get much love outside of Japanese government payloads, and there aren't that may of those lately.

What's weirder is that despite a big overall increase in space investment there hasn't been the boom of newspace companies that we've seen in other places. Both Europe and India seem to have more active newspace scenes that Japan does.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:18:14 2023 No.15096023
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>>15095993
India has been launching multiple rockets every year for years now, the fact that they will beat the EU at putting a person into space is just embarrassing for the EU.

>>15095998
Both Japan and South Korea only had one launch, if you take the payload into consideration Japan put far more into orbit.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:19:24 2023 No.15096027

>>15095979
because crew dragon took about seven years to develop (and spacex had already flown falcon 9 for two years by the time crew dragon dev started). they havent even begun on starship's life support systems save for vague notions. not to mention starship has yet to prove it can launch/land safely. 2030 is generous considering the scale and number of unknown unknowns

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:21:56 2023 No.15096031 >>15096023 >Both Japan and South Korea only had one launch, if you take the payload into consideration Japan put far more into orbit. Japanese one failed, thus 0 payload.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:22:22 2023 No.15096032 >>15096027 Life support systems are a non-issue. They won't need to relearn how to do life support, they just have to adapt a system to Starship. There's no reason to believe it may have trouble with launch. The landing is definitely a hang-up though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:23:20 2023 No.15096033 >>15096027 From scratch with very little funding stalled by congress not giving money/spacex splitting resources across various vehicle developments vs deep knowledge start with lot of funding and single vehicle development

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:24:10 2023 No.15096034 >>15095986 Now where's the mass breakdown?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:26:45 2023 No.15096036 File: 222 KB, 1800x975, FlgPYWxX0AAr2Cg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15096034 Hard to quantify given many are secret and not transparent

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:30:39 2023 No.15096048 File: 55 KB, 1192x670, gaganyaan_by_brickmack_dcxlasv-pre.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15096023 >India will beat the EU at putting a person into space This is just bizarre to actually think about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:31:15 2023 No.15096050 >>15096036 I’m sure some software could get an approximation of payload mass from the video stream

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:32:17 2023 No.15096054 >>15096050 Well, if you want my guess, its SpaceX sending ~70% of the mass to orbit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 02:37:47 2023 No.15096070 >>15096050 wait for brycetech to release their yearly review

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 03:13:32 2023 No.15096141 File: 313 KB, 1169x1149, 6E83FCAD-47E0-4AF1-B363-E8F409B9820F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095681 Challenger fabrication (16 Jan 1980)

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 03:20:49 2023 No.15096155

>>15096048
The EU space agency doesn't even have a manned program, all they do is navigation sats and some earth observation stuff
And ESA stopped trying to do its own manned thing in the early 90s becasue it was now cheapoer to fly on Russian Soyuz and to keep doing the joint shuttle research flights.

Welp. Maybe after they get the embarassing Ariane 6 thing out of the way and do a re-usably Ariane 7. . .then they will start building a capsule and finish it just when everybody and their dog flies to orbitin Starship.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 03:56:00 2023 No.15096222

>>15095423
A lot of the payload costs comes as a knock on effect from the high launch costs/low lift capacity/low cadence of launch vehicles
When you don’t have to autism every gram you can be less… well autistic.
Admittedly the larger costs are accrued by payroll over time but I honestly think some people can pull double duty babysitting a couple orbiters with improved modern automation/AI replacing a lot of meat hours

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:09:29 2023 No.15096239 >>15096048 >the capsule is brown this shit is just gonna write itself literally

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:12:03 2023 No.15096244 >>15095832 Oh cool it’s another episode of >/sci/zo posts his ramblings instead of making another thread like all the other schizos

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:15:59 2023 No.15096252 >>15096155 Kek when they finish a reusable man rated A7 complete with capsule starship will probably be close to its end of life as spacex develops starship 2

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:25:38 2023 No.15096273 >>15096239 >kssh >"Good morning, sir!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:33:57 2023 No.15096291 How old is Eager Network? or as i like to call him N-Eager. I tought he was like 24, but apparently he's quite older?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:35:10 2023 No.15096293 >>15096048 It's not bizarre at all. Yurop is not ambitious, you should know that already. I expect Japan to beat them too eventually.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:36:58 2023 No.15096295 >>15096291 He has videos where he shows his face. He’s an older guy Plus he sounds older lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:37:59 2023 No.15096296 >>15096293 I was going to say the same thing about japan lmao

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:14:17 2023 No.15096332

>>15094661
reading this gave me an aneurysm. why do pseuds with no idea what they're talking about feel the need to shit out their opinions publicly? it's like he doesn't know anything about the space industry making drive-by fully-retarded statements, one after the other

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:16:09 2023 No.15096336 >>15096291 The eager beaver is like 40 probably

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:16:35 2023 No.15096338
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>>15095832
>>15095857
>>15095868
The game of life has revealed me how complexity can arise from a couple of simple rules. If you make it big enough and fill it with noise, there is a non zero chance that picrel will just happen to exist at some point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:18:26 2023 No.15096344 >>15096338 Oh my scientist...they are sending signals to each other!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:21:05 2023 No.15096349 >>15096338 Cellular automata piss me off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:38:23 2023 No.15096374 >>15094198 Not an old space company though.......

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:39:33 2023 No.15096377 >>15096048 >>15096293 It's weird how the continent known for exploring the shit out of the world just doesn't give a shit about exploring outside Earth.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:40:43 2023 No.15096379

>>15096338
It is pretty fascinating.
Even just drawing basic numbers can create some really interesting things. 6 and 9 both create four gliders, but depending on exactly how you draw them it can either result in two gliders dying and two surviving or all four gliders surviving.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:41:29 2023 No.15096380 >>15096377 It’s called peaking, when you start becoming embarrassed and apologetic about your past

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:43:04 2023 No.15096382 >>15096349 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP5-iIeKXE8

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:44:23 2023 No.15096386 >>15096382 Okay, that's actually pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:45:29 2023 No.15096387 >>15096382 ok now do it with redstone

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:54:00 2023 No.15096402 I forgot Denis Villeneuve is directing Rendezvous with Rama, neat. Also I guess that Moon is a Harsh Mistress adaptation with Bryan Singer fell through? That's good

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:58:25 2023 No.15096406 >>15096402 >Denis Villeneuve D I S H O N E S T

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:59:22 2023 No.15096407
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>>15094544
SSMEs are VERY imperfect. They are insanely overcomplicated. There is an additional set of boost pumps and turbines that had to be added when they ran into cavitation problems. If they designed they stupid thing correctly from the outset it would have literally half the turbomachinery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 06:15:32 2023 No.15096422 Panspermia fags are gonna get btfoed so hard by some fish under ice moons it's not even funny

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 06:18:51 2023 No.15096431 >>15096422 panspermia is a cop out anyway. if life was seeded from asteroids, how did life form on ther asteroid? The answer we keep returning to: God

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 06:19:23 2023 No.15096432 File: 271 KB, 2048x1638, 1672726768808.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15096012 We only have scams. Until these fags post static fire videos on twitter it's scam. Agnikul only posted upper stage engine sf so it's half scam.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 06:23:08 2023 No.15096438

>>15096422
I don't think that would be a good argument since the ice moons are close enough that panspermia could be a possibility somewhat.
The jackpot for or against would be to analyse how those aliens are in their basic form (mainly the genetic code) and see how similar or different they are from earthling life.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 06:24:19 2023 No.15096441
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>>15096407
It's also not reusable,it's refurbishable. Someone should go ahead and catalog every flown SSME and find how many got thrown away or became a ship of theseus situation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 06:34:06 2023 No.15096449 >>15096406 well it was reported a year ago, but desu havent heard shit since

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 06:39:45 2023 No.15096458 >>15096012 The H-II is too expensive to be competitive on the commercial market and Japan only has so many national launches that it is capable of doing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 07:16:37 2023 No.15096496 >>15096402 Why do ppl tell me Rama is boring?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 07:42:02 2023 No.15096524 >>15094665 >Rocks dropped from there KEK

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 07:45:10 2023 No.15096527 /sfg/ official song: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SMF6k8Bw1G4

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 07:56:43 2023 No.15096540
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>>15096524
>no one told them you are meant to drop the rocks on urf from mercury orbit using plasma magnet sails for 400km/s delta v

/sfg/ bros are going to rule this shitty solar system

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 08:22:29 2023 No.15096577 >>15096496 It is a very quiet book where basically nothing happens. I liked it. Definitely suits Denny’s directorial style

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 08:27:12 2023 No.15096580 >>15096402 If we don't get the simps referred to as such, I'll riot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 08:39:52 2023 No.15096598 File: 1.87 MB, 4157x5906, 03.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15095965 >>15095992

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 08:44:03 2023 No.15096600 File: 82 KB, 485x607, 1672735389.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 5000 ton fully fuel Starship test system being installed soon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:06:58 2023 No.15096611 >>15096577 Is it quiet like the OG blade runner? or by boring do they really mean atmospheric? i like mysteries, and the cobcept is very intriguing

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:16:26 2023 No.15096621
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>when humanity finally see the fully operational O'Neill cylinder /sfg/ has been quietly constructing behind the Moon
>this song plays https://youtu.be/QQTZ7GTnoKU
>alternatively https://youtu.be/dRns6u5bHuw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:44:28 2023 No.15096655 >>15096621 But that's not what we are building.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:48:49 2023 No.15096663
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>>15096655
it would be so cool though, everyone on Earth would gasp and some would cry. It would be shear horror at the realization of our power.
May I ask what are we building if not this? An instrument of our liberation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:49:43 2023 No.15096666 >>15096663 A giant trampoline. Bit unintuitive, but its actually the best way to get to space and stay in space

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:51:17 2023 No.15096669 >>15096666 Anon, are you taking a piss right now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:51:20 2023 No.15096670 >>15096621 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ExD6T2f3WE personally this song plays for me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:51:35 2023 No.15096671 >>15096611 The protag crew in the book is bland compared to the standards of current media. But I wouldn't say nothing happens.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:57:26 2023 No.15096675 >>15096670 it's epic and all, but we really need something that instills a cosmic dread in the hapless well dwellers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:58:34 2023 No.15096678 File: 236 KB, 568x568, 8e429780afa55838d3f0fced5ba79742.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15096675 we don't need them to understand

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:59:20 2023 No.15096680 >>15096671 That's ok I dont care much for the characters. I'm more interested in the circumstance and the big ass tube

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:03:08 2023 No.15096690 >>15096680 We can overwhelm the entire radio spectrum (fuck the FCC ass), they will know their betters. It might be the last thing earthers hear, driven to madness and suicide

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:05:19 2023 No.15096692 >>15096690 whoops meant for >>15096678

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:05:51 2023 No.15096694 >>15096692 nigger

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:08:33 2023 No.15096696 >>15096694 cuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:11:39 2023 No.15096702 File: 82 KB, 1724x1786, Ur Mum.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15096663 There are several projects in the pipeline right now.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:16:23 2023 No.15096709

>>15096611
It is quiet. It’s good and it’s quite a fast and light read.
Just give it a go. It’s kind of hard to describe without spoilers beyond
>woah there’s an alien cylinder in our solar system and NASA is gay so space truckers go check it out.
>huh they sure do like the number three
If you have typical /sfg/ levels of hatred for astronomers, NASA, and all bureaucrats you’ll at least like the first few chapters

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:19:01 2023 No.15096713 >>15096702 world's largest pipebomb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:20:40 2023 No.15096717 >>15096709 Where the fuck are you getting all the nasa hate from, the space truckers are literally the only ones that can get to it in time.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:24:06 2023 No.15096720

>>15096717
I’m joking about nasa specifically but there’s a bunch of crap about funding politics between the factions of the not-nasa science agency at the beginning. Iirc it would ruin some agency heads doctrinal thesis or something. That’s part of why only the truckers can get there in time

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 11:45:50 2023 No.15096791 >>15096496 the whole book is just bunch of guys exploring alien oneil cylinder with no action just exploration of alien environment interesting read but cant see it translated to hollywood blockbuster without butchering it (especially these days)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 11:54:53 2023 No.15096803 File: 680 KB, 1851x1119, E585F2DF-45D4-43A5-AE9E-04F84B7F62B1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Vivid dream last night about a Falcon 9 launch failing due to a stage 2 issue >Wake up sweating and scared

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 12:24:06 2023 No.15096836 >>15096791 They get into life-threatening situations a few times. But yeah, there are no fight scenes that I can recall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 12:39:31 2023 No.15096855 stage it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 12:45:55 2023 No.15096872 Ground Control to Major Tom Your circuit's dead, there's something wrong Can you hear me, Major Tom?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 13:30:59 2023 No.15096937 >>15096449 He's posting a meme from /tv/. Denis is known as a "dishonest filmmaker" on /tv/ because of the American flag shot in Sicario.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 14:14:23 2023 No.15096993 >>15096791 >>15096836 They could do what the game did and mash together the first 2 books, the 2nd book is a lot more "exciting" (gayer).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 14:15:59 2023 No.15096995 File: 619 KB, 1280x1920, 0204100825896_05_15188606556160.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15096994 >>15096994 >>15096994 staging

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