/sfg/ Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.14819984]

Senate Launch System Artemissedthelaunchwindow-1 Edition

[Anonymous No.14819996]

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[Anonymous No.14819997]

>>14819983
>They're the motors for literally our only land based ICBMs we have left.
Space Shuttle / SLS SRBs are much bigger than Minutemans, they aren't the same motor. They are made by the same company though.

[Anonymous No.14820003]

>>14819984
Yo! a SpaceX Dragon 1 on the cover of Nature Fag!

[Anonymous No.14820017]

https://youtu.be/NONM-xsKMSs

[Anonymous No.14820021]

>>14820017
>its yet another backwards booster landing
Who even cares.

[Anonymous No.14820037]

If all goes nominally, 18 separate orbital rocket designs will launch this month.
Falcon 9 Block 5
Kuaizhou 1A
Ariane 5
RS1
Alpha
Long March 7A
Electron
Soyuz 2.1a
Delta IV Heavy
SLS
Soyuz 2.1b
PSLV-CA
LauncherOne
Jielong-1
Kuaizhou 11
Terran 1
Long March 11A
Atlas V 531
ZhuQue-2

[Anonymous No.14820038]

WE ARE

[Anonymous No.14820043]

Highly recommend
https://youtu.be/KW8Vjs84Fxg

[Anonymous No.14820044]

>>14820038
GOING OVER THE DATA

[Anonymous No.14820049]

>>14820038
going to see Starship fly to orbit before SLS, in Q1 2023

[Anonymous No.14820057]

Good morning I hate Earthers (derogatory)

[Anonymous No.14820070]

>>14820038
STAAN

[Anonymous No.14820081]

>>14820038
are drunk in old town scottsdale fuuuuuuuuuuck

[Anonymous No.14820098]

>>14820037
Won't all this rocket engine fire heat up the atmosphere?

[Anonymous No.14820099]

I'm starting to doubt we'll ever see SLS fly

[Anonymous No.14820102]

>>14820099
swap out sls with starship and yeah u rite

[Anonymous No.14820103]

>>14820021
They're no longer novel but still fun to watch. Though on this one is probably gonna be too dark to see much.

[Anonymous No.14820105]

>>14820099
STS scrubbed all the time, hydrogen is gay

[Anonymous No.14820116]

Do you reckon /sci/ will give diversity any credit when the mission succeeds?

[Anonymous No.14820117]

>>14820116
Well it IS running on Colored People Time now.

[Anonymous No.14820119]

>>14820116
congratulations to the blwck peoplol
i will clap hard
trust

[Anonymous No.14820121]

>>14820038
BLAMING HYDROGEN

[Anonymous No.14820141]

>>14820116
I give diversity plenty of credit for the mission already

[Anonymous No.14820142]

Just send it on something that works.

[Anonymous No.14820156]

>>14820142
Put it inside an expendable Starship, that'd be a good trick

[Anonymous No.14820162]

>>14820156
I don't think a falcon heavy could fit inside a starship

[Anonymous No.14820166]

>>14819984
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.14820175]

>>14819851
>I do not believe Astra's in-house chemical rocket engine dev teams can actually make a pump fed design from scratch
What the fuck. Some fag from the spaceflight general on a Romanian kettle boiling forum built an engine with a box of scraps. Hell, someone from Reddit also built an engine, complete with simulations and fabrication. And you're telling me some company on NASDAQ with teams of engineers can't do it themselves?

[Anonymous No.14820180]

>>14820162
You could just barely fit all of Orion plus the ICPS in there with room to spare.

It wouldn't fit the EUS though, and of course there's no abort mode. Maybe if they cut off the top and kept the LAS?

[Anonymous No.14820198]

>>14820175
The upper stage team is full of complete shitbags that fucked up the Aether engine and never accepted responsibility for their consistent prop leaks on LV0007 through LV0010. I wouldn't trust them to assemble Ikea furniture. The first stage team did fine with Delphin (electric pumped proonted engine for Rocket 3) but the decision to hire out for a Reaver license paints a grim picture of the engine team's ability to design big boy engines from scratch.

[Anonymous No.14820208]

>>14819984
Are they retarded?

[Anonymous No.14820210]

>>14820208
I am.

[Anonymous No.14820211]

>>14820208
>>14820210
It's just like wrong. CH4 is harder to produce on Mars than H2.

[Anonymous No.14820218]

>>14820211
Sabatier says what

[Anonymous No.14820219]

uh oh

[Anonymous No.14820220]

>>14820099
Some pieces of it may reach an appreciable altitude

[Anonymous No.14820221]

>>14820211
Perhaps he meant it's eaiser to produce on Mars [than on the moon]

[Anonymous No.14820222]

>>14820208
>need O2
>get free H2 from the same process
>CH4 is easier than H2
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.14820229]

>>14820218
>implying
this is the state of /sfg/

[Anonymous No.14820233]

>>14820180
Just make a cheap stage adapter for Superheavy and stick Orion+ICPS/EUS on it. Probably don't even really need Starship.

[Anonymous No.14820238]

>>14820233

[Anonymous No.14820243]

>>14820211
>It's just like wrong. CH4 is harder to produce on Mars than H2.
There's more to ISRU than production; you gotta store that shit, and for years at a time.

[Anonymous No.14820246]

Steel is harder to produce than wood and yet it's much more popular.

[Anonymous No.14820248]

>>14820238
It works in Kerbal Space Program

[Anonymous No.14820255]

>>14820246
Wood is less durable than steel and yet it's much more poplar.

[Anonymous No.14820272]

>>14820208
>>14820229
he just can't stop lying

[Anonymous No.14820273]

>>14820255
CARLOS

[Anonymous No.14820281]

>>14820255
I remember reading how wood is actually ideal space material because it doesnt burn or decompose in space

[Anonymous No.14820295]

>>14820281
yeah faggots love to say faggot shit like that.
steel and aluminium work just fine too and they have 8x the tensile strength.

[Anonymous No.14820298]

>>14820281
Wasn't there a meme cubesat a while ago whose gimmick was that it was made of wood?

[Anonymous No.14820301]

>>14820272
>he just can't stop lying
The absolute state of Hydromemers

[Anonymous No.14820311]

>>14820298
WISA plywood satellite. Sort of a semi-serious test done by KitSat, Arctic Astronautics, and UPM's WISA plywood company
They were supposed to launch last year, but since they were relying on Rocket Lab to launch it, it ran into delays

[Anonymous No.14820322]

>>14820311
Also an odd addition, Jamie Hyneman works at the University where this is being developed

[Anonymous No.14820324]

>>14820322
fuck

[Anonymous No.14820331]

>family keeps asking me why NASA didn't launch the rocket
>say it's jobs program not a space program
>look a me like I'm a conspiracy tard

how do you layman SLS being shit

[Anonymous No.14820334]

>>14820331
Point out how much faster Mercury to Apollo was and say SLS's delays are either on purpose or proof that women and blacks are inferior. Watch their brains short out.

[Anonymous No.14820343]

>>14820281
nothing burns in vacuum
I kinda doubt it doesn't decompose under heavy UV and 150°C or whatever it gets under direct sunlight
probably better than plain old plastic though

[Anonymous No.14820346]

>>14820343
iirc they're pressure treating it or something

[Anonymous No.14820350]

I’m calling it now, that new site across from boring company in Texas is going to specialize in producing interior components for manned starships, deployed habitats, and any other structures/ vehicles needed for lunar and Martian colonization. It seems outlandish at first but think about what other facilities SpaceX needs that they don’t already have. Everything needed for manufacturing a standard starship already has multiple facilities built or in the works. The only major things left are the types of things that could be integrated into starship as a final step. It might seem early to start construction on a facility specializing in components for manned starships/ habitats, but that HLS contract is nearing the phase that mission hardware needs to be built, and even the demonstration HLS requires an accurate representation of the real thing, even on the interior, as did the manned dragon demos. It’s location makes perfect sense for something like that, instead of building it in the middle of nowhere by the launch site itself, you can build it near the supply lines and urban places for workers to live. Throw the module on a double wide oversized load truck to boca or Kennedy when it’s done.

[Anonymous No.14820351]

>>14820331
show them this picture
SLS is so overpriced the number alone is inconceivable to most people
it's like trying to explain people who buy lottery tickets that they are never going to win

[Anonymous No.14820360]

>>14820331
At least they actually care about the launch. Most people I know think anything space related is pointless/childish/a waste of money.
If I could convince them it was a jobs program they would probably have a positive opinion of it.

[Anonymous No.14820361]

>>14820331
>>say it's jobs program not a space program
>>look a me like I'm a conspiracy tard
It's a public knowledge. You can tell them to look up its wikipedia page.
>>14818679

[Anonymous No.14820380]

>>14820324
based. better than soivage

[Anonymous No.14820381]

>>14820351
>the European part is the cheapest part on the rocket
Feels good to avoid grift

[Anonymous No.14820388]

the moon is a hollowed out space station

[Anonymous No.14820390]

>>14820208
>>a-also we're going to mars, right?
>oh yeah, that too I guess..

[Anonymous No.14820392]

>>14820281
Fun fact: termites can survive in a hard vacuum.

[Anonymous No.14820396]

>>14820392
i refuse to believe this

[Anonymous No.14820405]

>>14820175
>What the fuck. Some fag from the spaceflight general on a Romanian kettle boiling forum built an engine with a box of scraps
Scale. A child can build a sandcastle but not a home

[Anonymous No.14820412]

>>14820057
Good Sol to you too anon, simply delightful

[Anonymous No.14820418]

What can we speculate about future Martian cuisine? I'm going shopping later and was wondering what nd how I could put together anything that isn't earther (derogatory) style food

[Anonymous No.14820421]

>>14820351
>Plus another $20 billion for Orion

[Anonymous No.14820427]

>>14820421
GET DOWN

[Anonymous No.14820432]

>>14820418
bugs

[Anonymous No.14820433]

>>14820421
That's one angry ceiling fan

[Anonymous No.14820437]

>>14820432
That is a tiangong speical dish though

[Anonymous No.14820440]

>>14820427

[Anonymous No.14820444]

>>14820099
They'll make it fly at least once even if they have to pump in another 10 billion dollars and it blows up at max Q.
it's a pride thing. they won't cancel it now.

[Anonymous No.14820490]

>>14820418
Mashed potatoes
Spinach
Algae fake meat

[Anonymous No.14820494]

>>14820418
You want to eat like a Martian? Looks like meat is off the menu boys.

[Anonymous No.14820525]

>>14820142
pic unrelated I guess

[Anonymous No.14820535]

>>14820418
https://files.catbox.moe/h46bkw.pdf

[Anonymous No.14820537]

>>14820418
bugs, beans and supplement pills

[Anonymous No.14820544]

>>14820166
15 new stamps from Poland, 1962-1971
One stamp is already on the anchor post

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UXcGGmwLQxrYc-aoyYaaB1FFvfk9nmk9?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.14820559]

>>14820444
I mean 99% of the thing is designed to burn up anyway. Why not make it 100%.

[Anonymous No.14820584]

>>14820038
YOUNG
NO ONE CAN TELL US WE'RE WRONG

[Anonymous No.14820590]

>>14820490
Pretty much what I eat anyway, just with mycoprotein instead of algae

[Anonymous No.14820592]

>>14820584
SEARCHING OUR HEARTS FOR SO LONG
BOTH OF US KNOWING

[Anonymous No.14820602]

>>14819851
Isn't that overpowered as fuck for a second stage? Even Alpha uses a different, less powerful second stage engine.

[Anonymous No.14820620]

>>14820544
9 stamps from Bulgaria, 1962-1969

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rwDrBN32xYXO4gBWV_Mg2EmmpkA_7WNR?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.14820634]

Good morning, /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.14820655]

>>14820142
>SpaceX
>we can't increase Falcon 9 / heavy fairing diameter due to aerodynamics
>also SpaceX
>we propose putting a larger diameter fairing on the Falcon Heavy

Kek at this scam, while I like the Falcon 9 SpaceX tries to pull oldspace scams when they get the chance.

[Anonymous No.14820658]

>>14820655
I'm geussing, proportion

[Anonymous No.14820660]

>>14820655
i don't think it was ever an official spacex proposal. you'd have to pony up a bunch of money to get elon to put more work into FH.

[Anonymous No.14820661]

>>14820655
pretty sure Falcon-Orion was an idea that came from that part of NASA that wants to get rid of SLS and not something SpaceX ever offered on their own

[Anonymous No.14820663]

>>14820661
I'm a brainlet who can't math. Would Falcon-Orion have the delta vee to go lunar, or would it just be earth-orbital?

[Anonymous No.14820665]

>>14820663
it'd have enough to do artemis 1/2-style missions

[Anonymous No.14820672]

>>14820142
I'd actually consider using this instead. Stacking a 5m Orion/ICPS on top of a 7m New Glenn would be a lot less awkward than fitting it on a 3.6m Falcon, and LC-36 will already have hydrogen as a GSE commodity.

>>14820660
I am 100% certain this is something that was cooked up by the enthusiast community

>>14820663
A standard Falcon Heavy has enough lift to get Orion/ICPS to LEO. From there ICPS can push Orion to TLI. Whether it does that via a LEO parking orbit or does it all in one direct trajectory is anyone's guess.

[Anonymous No.14820673]

>>14820663
I can't find the payload to LEO for Artemis 1, I just keep getting "most powerful rocket" and "95 ton" bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14820675]

>shit launch system delayed
>shitliner still not flying
Old space has lost

[Anonymous No.14820678]

>>14820672
Pretty sure the ICPS finishes the orbital insertion so the orange dildo burns up so if it can get ICPS + Orion to LEO ICPS can do the rest.
Where did you find the weight for it?

[Anonymous No.14820681]

>>14820673
Well, I can tell you how many pumpkins it can lift at least.

[Anonymous No.14820684]

>>14820673
the core is going to push orion+ICPS basically all the way into orbit but stop just short so it can fall back into the atmosphere shuttle ET-style, so it's going to be like 59 tons.

[Anonymous No.14820689]

>>14820681
Thanks anon, I have been memeing with a friend that the launch is going to be "swimming pools per minute" fuel flow and "elephants to LEO" so he'll appreciate this.

>>14820684
Thanks anon, I knew ICPS only did the last ~100m/s.

[Anonymous No.14820693]

>>14820681
That's about 22025lbs of pumpkins, which translates to 11.0125 US tons or 9.990 metric tons.

[Anonymous No.14820694]

>>14820665
So what's the X-factor? What's the reason NOT to do Falcon-Orion?

[Anonymous No.14820698]

>>14820694
Jobs program
Funding ICBM makers with the candlesticks

[Anonymous No.14820699]

>>14820311
>adding a selfie stick to a satellite

[Anonymous No.14820702]

>>14820694
Fairing diameter makes it impossible on the current Falcon. They could in theory add fins to the base to counter the high center of pressure from a bigger fairing but I don't know how the engine web would handle loads like that it wasn't designed for.
tl:dr maybe a few years development maybe impossible.

[Anonymous No.14820708]

>>14820702
To me that seems like a pretty good reason not to waste a lot of energy on the idea.

[Anonymous No.14820713]

>>14820702
yeah if they were going to go with a commercial launcher for orion on artemis missions atlas-aces would've been the obvious choice, especially since they would've had to been making the decision in 2011. f9/FH could've still been the workhorse for refueling the d*pots

[Anonymous No.14820715]

>>14820678
The SLS Core stage is almost as orbital as the Long March 5 core. ICPS needs to do some of the work because NASA isn't run by complete madmen.

Falcon Heavy and New Glenn can lift 64 and 45 tons to LEO, although New Glenn's figures are still vague and uncorroborated at this point. Orion+DCSS-5 comes out to ~60 tons, so New Glenn/Orion would actually need an orbital insertion burn like SLS which could be more of an issue than I thought. All of these numbers are pulled from their respective wikipedia articles.

[Anonymous No.14820716]

>>14820702
The guy that designed the web and a couple of aerodynamics engineers could probably find out how viable it is in a week. Seeing Musk isn't yelling "do this" I'm guessing they have already run the numbers and know it's a big redesign.

[Anonymous No.14820773]

>This is a side of Dr. Warner Von Braun few have ever seen. This film was approved by NASA in 1961.
>It is his view of how science has changed him and his outlook.
>I found this film in a library dumpster in Trenton, New Jersey in 1982.
>It may be the first public view in decades.
https://twitter.com/BrianRoemmele/status/1566172963665092609
fedoras btfo by WvB

[Anonymous No.14820776]

>>14820208
methalox is superior to hydrolox but there were no methalox engines available in 2011

[Anonymous No.14820780]

>>14820773
>I found this film in a library dumpster in Trenton, New Jersey in 1982.
Christ the flagrant loss of historical records makes me nervous. Our species has forgotten so much already.

[Anonymous No.14820784]

>>14820211
Methane is easier to handle.

[Anonymous No.14820788]

>>14820418
look at that Jurvetson dweeb's food ventures for that I guess. You vill eat the fermenting tanks of fungus on Mars.

[Anonymous No.14820790]

>>14820694
Because when the last nasa administrator suggested such a hypothetical just to light a fire under the ass of everyone building SLS, the senate nearly fired him for just having such a thought in the first place. Hence the Senate Launch System.

[Anonymous No.14820793]

>>14820602
Yes having a Reaver for the second stage of Rocket 4 seems far too powerful, Firefly's Alpha has twice as many Reavers for the first stage and still doesn't use one for the second.

[Anonymous No.14820794]

>>14820166
8 new stamps from the United States, 1963-1994
Think that's all for today

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZvR2fmPrjmi1_OrXPzmbsRcFEm-rmQSV?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.14820803]

>>14820684
So the core stage is technically capable of single stage to orbit?

[Anonymous No.14820804]

>>14820773
>SS member who use froced labor lectures Americans about morality
Kek.

[Anonymous No.14820815]

>>14820673
https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/sls/to-the-moon.html
>This is low-Earth orbit, often referred to as LEO. SLS can deliver more than 95 metric tons (209,439 pounds) to this orbit with a Block I configuration.

[Anonymous No.14820817]

>>14820803
Stage and a half. It's got SRBs.

[Anonymous No.14820820]

Reminder that Falcon 1 STILL mogs all other modern small sats in terms of price/kg and capability to LEO

[Anonymous No.14820823]

Everybody shits on SLS, but does anybody have anything positive or negative to say about Orion? If we could figure out how to get it to orbit, would it be a good cislunar spacecraft? How's it compare to Crew Dragon?

[Anonymous No.14820833]

>>14820773
This further proves that WvB is not only a mascot of /sfg/, but indeed all of /sci/. Thank you for sharing anon, someone ought to webm this

[Anonymous No.14820834]

>>14820823
As something that began life in the Bush administration it at least has longevity.

[Anonymous No.14820837]

>>14820815
That doesn't mean ICPS + Orion weighs 95 tons.

[Anonymous No.14820839]

>>14820823
it cost about as much as SLS and taking twice as long to develop and they havent even added life support yet. and it's fat.

[Anonymous No.14820842]

>>14820780
With the invention of the internet most things are copied many times over, so I wouldn't worry about it. The main problem is that because it is digital it can be edited with ease

[Anonymous No.14820846]

>>14820823
Paired with a real CSM it would be amazing, as it is it's extremely low delta-v and limited to the the gateway orbit.

[Anonymous No.14820851]

>>14820803
No because it cannot lift off without those two huge SRB.

[Anonymous No.14820855]

So why did it get delayed ... AGAIN?

[Anonymous No.14820857]

>>14820773
Did Saturn IB ever fly with both the CSM and LEM?

[Anonymous No.14820858]

>>14820823
Crew dragon can't handle lunar reentry speeds, but if they added a larger trunk for life support and a orbital refuel and more layers to their heat shield. I bet they could have made a lunar dragon

[Anonymous No.14820860]

>>14820855
What kind of Zeno's paradox shit is this?

[Anonymous No.14820864]

>>14820842
That paradoxically makes it even worse, knowledge stored completely digitally makes it all the more ephemeral. One good CME and there goes your species' archives. We should be making encyclopedias out of carved granite.

[Anonymous No.14820868]

>>14820860
They didn't want to launch while trump was in office so they were told to drag their feet a little but ended but dragging their feet a lot

[Anonymous No.14820871]

>>14820868
I wouldn't be surprised if people really believed this.

[Anonymous No.14820872]

>>14820837
ICPS is a 5 meter DCSS
>67,700 lb

Orion crew module + service module + abort module
>73,735 lb

[Anonymous No.14820873]

>>14820864
I read about this subject ages and ages ago, probably back in the late 90s. Some group or other was trying to figure out the best way to store information indefinitely. They decided the solution was to microscopically etch text onto discs made out of nickel (for some reason). Apparently those could survive just about anything and all you need to read them is a working knowledge of the language and a microscope.

[Anonymous No.14820874]

>>14820864
You can easily have archives shielded from a CME and they probably already do

[Anonymous No.14820879]

Titan IIIC…hnggggggg

[Anonymous No.14820885]

>>14820879
Titan is pure sex.

[Anonymous No.14820886]

>>14820873
I wonder how you'd make it known to an unknown future people that the objects were even an archive to begin with, they might think "wow ancient coasters" and melt them down for the metal. I remember a documentary on that big-ass nuclear waste storage place in Norway where they were debating how or even if they should mark the spot on the surface once it's filled. Any marking they might leave as a warning may be misinterpreted by a future people who could start digging there, alerted by whatever marker you leave.

[Anonymous No.14820888]

>>14819997
>They are made by the same company though.
do they also sag

[Anonymous No.14820890]

>>14820886
I saw that same doco, IMO put up "leave this land undistrubed or anger the old gods" signs. That way you only kill a couple of people and send a powerful message.

[Anonymous No.14820891]

>>14820804
if he sincerely repented and accepted Jesus he is in Heaven now, can you say the same?

[Anonymous No.14820892]

What happens if starship lands on the moon before SLS launches?

[Anonymous No.14820894]

>>14820891
I can not, I'm not in heaven.

[Anonymous No.14820893]

>>14820418
There's a three page pdf of this but I don't have it.

[Anonymous No.14820895]

>>14820858
That was what they originally had planned for dearMoon. The heatshield is too weak as-is, but you might be able to get around that if your service module could add a breaking burn instead of coming in on a purely ballistic return.

>>14820872
All versions of the SLS look vaguely unsettling to me, but there's just something about the block 1B's proportions that just looks outright wrong.

[Anonymous No.14820896]

>>14820823
it costs way too fucking much and this is coming from a lockheed martin apologetic

[Anonymous No.14820897]

>>14820892
SLS burns another 20 billion in the 5 years that's going to take.

[Anonymous No.14820899]

if SS launches before SLS would they consider canceling the thing

[Anonymous No.14820900]

>>14820885
How does the fuel get into the nozzle pipes?

[Anonymous No.14820909]

>>14820899
way too deep in sunk costs already

[Anonymous No.14820911]

>>14820892
absolutly nothing, SLS situation right now is that both nasa and boeing are playing chicken.
Boeing blew all the money they got for SLS and then some, but they have to build more, and it's going to come out of their own pocket.
They hope nasa pulls the plug first and that nasa has to pay them a fine for cancelling the project.
And yes, boeing probably is going to pull this scenario off.

[Anonymous No.14820912]

>>14820879
I really wish Lockheed had gone with a Titan V instead of upgrading the Atlas.

[Anonymous No.14820913]

>>14820894
being a smart alec won't get you there anon

[Anonymous No.14820915]

>>14820879
>>14820885
Why doesn't SpaceX make the Raptor larger?

[Anonymous No.14820916]

>>14820899
>if SS launches before SLS
this won't be allowed

[Anonymous No.14820923]

>>14820895
it is of hideous cyclopean proportions that abominable rocket.

[Anonymous No.14820924]

>>14820900
IIRC each pipe does a U-turn at the bottom so the fuel flows down one and up the other into the injector head.

[Anonymous No.14820927]

>>14820923
It's squamous. And rugose.

[Anonymous No.14820930]

>>14820915
Raptor makes more thrust than two of the twin main engines on Titan III. Raptor is powerful.

>>14820912
There’s documents and stuff that prove Titan V was supposed to switch the liquid propellants to Hydrolox and have a 5 meter wide core. It was basically Delta IV but with Titan boosters.
Titan V still would’ve been more capable than Delta IV Heavy. Interestingly enough, it would use the same original Titan liquid engines, only with a different propellant. The LR87 on the Titan was made to run on kerosene, hypergolics, and hudrolox

[Anonymous No.14820939]

>>14820886
I have always hated the "what would some newfags think of us today" thought experiment. If the world does get colonized by Africans it's not my problem if they dig up some nuclear waste, they should have used ground penetrating radar or a Geiger counter. Fuck em. Hopefully the mankind has a colony on Mars before then.

[Anonymous No.14820941]

>>14820923
>>14820927
a rocket fit for Welshmen

[Anonymous No.14820942]

>>14820924
Thanks. Thought it was something like that but you can’t see it in the pic.

[Anonymous No.14820943]

>>14820899
>would they consider canceling the thing
Starship or SLS?

[Anonymous No.14820951]

>>14820913
And David said unto Ahimelech ... And the priest said, The sword of Goliath the Philistine, whom thou slewest in the valley of Elah. 1 Samuel 21:8-9

And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam. 2 Samuel 21:19

[Anonymous No.14820955]

"NASA officials are still assessing the cause of the leak, but they believe it may have been due to an errant valve being opened. This occurred during the process of chilling down the rocket prior to loading liquid hydrogen. Amid a sequence of about a dozen commands being sent to the rocket, a command was sent to a wrong valve to open. This was rectified within 3 or 4 seconds, Sarafin said. However, during this time, the hydrogen line that would develop a problematic quick-disconnect was briefly over-pressurized."

[Anonymous No.14820963]

>>14820955
How the fuck isn't this automated in CURRENT YEAR?

[Anonymous No.14820967]

>>14820886
>I wonder how you'd make it known to an unknown future people that the objects were even an archive to begin with, they might think "wow ancient coasters"
just make the first line of text readable by the naked eye and have each subsequent line diminish in size till you need a lens to read it

[Anonymous No.14820974]

>>14820967
That's the way to do it, have the visible text also explain how to make a primative lens.

[Anonymous No.14820978]

>>14820955
>oh no the engine chill isn't working the engine will melt scrub scrub
>oh wait so the sensor was just bad everything is fine
>oh no we're leaking all this hydrogen why 8" GSE line why
>oh wait we just opened the wrong valve for a few seconds that'll be a forty five day delay plus tip

>>14820963
It was because they had to do some weird manual process to account for the last scrub's problem which wasn't really a problem.

[Anonymous No.14820979]

>>14820963
Automatization removes jobs :(

[Anonymous No.14820982]

SLS just continues to deliver

[Anonymous No.14820985]

>>14820982
Jobs?

[Anonymous No.14820988]

>>14820974
yes, also put a yuuge cache of lenses in with the metal text sheets. they're dirt cheap in bulk anyway

[Anonymous No.14821024]

>>14820895
>but there's just something about the block 1B's proportions that just looks outright wrong.
Luckily it will never exist

[Anonymous No.14821026]

>>14820873
I like this group. I always thought we should go further and invent things from scratch to help nuclear survivor cavemen bootstrap civilization faster a second time.
Like you would have plans for wooden bicycles and shit. Something like STC from 40k

[Anonymous No.14821035]

>>14820891
sadly he was a prot heretic so he's in hell

[Anonymous No.14821042]

>>14820418
sounds like a fun challenge for a week/month/year

>rules:
at least one meal should involve microalgae since it's the most space/resource efficient source of protein (tip: you can buy spirulina/chlorella powder in health food stores)
bake green flatbread, soup, oatmeal - something like that

you can have anything that you can grow in aquaponic system - fresh vegetables, beans, tilapia and shrimp are all allowed, fungi also
trees need a lot of time and space, so you should limit your choices to annual plants

from carbs you are allowed wholemeal flour, brown rice, sweet and regular potatoes, golden syrup for sweetening
processing them further to white flour/rice and crystal sugar seems somewhat wasteful, given the circumstances, but then again, it's not that complicated to do so feel free to buy regular as well

Preferred cooking fat should be algae oil
If you can't find it in your supermarket, canola oil with a dash of fish oil should be a decent substitute

no more than 0.5kg of "imported" food per week (ie. red meat in form of jerky or corned beef, chocolate etc.) because hauling that shit is insanely expensive even with Starship
hardmode: import embargo

another thing to consider:
Martian diet should also be anti-oxidant rich to lower cancer risk from radiation when outside of hab so try to eat a lot of those
preservation by freeze drying would be incredibly easy on Mars as you could be using the same process and machinery as you would extraction water from regolith, so martian cuisine should involve things like Chuño or Katsuobushi

[Anonymous No.14821044]

>>14820893
>>14820535

[Anonymous No.14821045]

What are we waiting for?

[Anonymous No.14821051]

>>14820166
From today's paper. it's pretty easy to find similar things from the 1980's when the Shuttle was first flying.

Artemis lunar flight couldn't launch on its second attempt (4.9.2022)

The unmanned Artemis lunar flight will be postponed due to a propellant leak, United States' space administration NASA said. The rocket was intended to launch from Florida last Saturday evening Finnish time.
The leak was noticed when liquid hydrogen was being pumped into the rocket. NASA did not immediately say when the launch would be attempted again. The first launch attempt on Monday had to be cancelled due to a high temperature in one of the rocket engines.
The unmanned flight is set to take the Orion spacecraft to a lunar orbit for 2 days. Later in the Artemis program is a manned flight to Lunar orbit, and eventually man's return to the Lunar surface.

[Anonymous No.14821053]

>>14821042
if he does thisi n a few years he could mix in some cultured meat as well, i think at least one of those companies says they want to export their tech into space. seems like a fun challenge to do.

[Anonymous No.14821067]

>>14820930
The LR87 could run on just about anything but it was still a gas generator design from the 1950s. Lockheed thought about upgrading the H-1 decedents the Atlas was using but elected to buy higher performing RD-180s instead. I wonder if we could have seen an RD-0120 powered Titan if they'd decided to follow that route.

[Anonymous No.14821072]

Why has nobody considered meat rabbits for established habitats? They don't take a lot of space, they eat shit you're growing already plus your scraps, reach slaughter weight quickly, breed quickly and their waste can be used as fertilizer without processing.

[Anonymous No.14821074]

as a gamer i feel that i am exceptionally tuned to endure the long transit to mars. i would be happy not to leave my cabin as long as i can poop somewhere

[Anonymous No.14821075]

>>14819984
kek, they should've just let spacex do this. boeing and nasa are just failures

[Anonymous No.14821079]

>>14821072
You can't live off of rabbit meat.

[Anonymous No.14821082]

>>14820982
/sfg/ would never admit it

[Anonymous No.14821084]

>>14821079
exclusively? no of course not, not enough fat, but that's not an issue on mars, plenty of fat-rich plants and algaes to choose from to make up for that. having said that i think the optics of rabbits being sent to mars to be slaughtered are bad.

[Anonymous No.14821085]

>>14820804
Everytime i read those retarded comments on twigger i wonder how some of you could spend more than 5 min on there without wanting to kill someone.
>>14820773
also im an esl but his choice of words sound very nice and poetic, maybe it was the times.

[Anonymous No.14821087]

>>14821072
Anon did in the 4ass agriculture report

[Anonymous No.14821093]

>>14821084
its cool, the rabbits will form the first Owsla on Mars

[Anonymous No.14821101]

>>14819984
Idk what the SLS law is, but the phenomenon of having experts request something from management and then ending up with something vaguely related or unrelated at all is all too familiar for me working at a big corporation.
I assume something similar happened.

[Anonymous No.14821104]

>>14821101
they knew exactly what they were doing

[Anonymous No.14821110]

https://spacenews.com/intelsats-galaxy-15-mutes-payload-as-its-drifts-into-other-satellite-paths/

spacetugbros...

[Anonymous No.14821116]

>>14821053
problem with cultured meat is that you need lot of very pure chemicals (aminoacids, enzymes, etc.) , the whole process is finicky and needs a lot of hardware
making these is a bit problematic if you don't have chemical industry and if you can't make them in situ, you need to import
if you have to bring 1kg of powdered growing broth to make 1kg of synthesized porkchops, you might as well bring frozen or freeze dried porkchops and skip the whole hassle
>>14821084
>the optics of rabbits being sent to mars to be slaughtered are bad.
maybe for suburban Americans

[Anonymous No.14821127]

>>14821093
>there's a dog loose in the wood

[Anonymous No.14821132]

>>14821116
>problem with cultured meat
You know where's the best place go grow meat? Inside a cow.

[Anonymous No.14821134]

anything happening next week?

[Anonymous No.14821138]

>>14821132
> get meat
> get milk
> get methane for rocket fuel
its a no brainer imo.

[Anonymous No.14821141]

>>14821132
Cows are the most inefficient form of feed to meat ratio animal there is. Should go for chicken or turkey if you don't want fish

[Anonymous No.14821143]

>>14821132
true
but getting a herd of cows to Mars seems rather difficult at face value

[Anonymous No.14821145]

>>14821143
take calves. checkmate atheists.

[Anonymous No.14821147]

>>14821134
There should be an Ariane 5 launch on Tuesday, so get ready for another cringe stream. ABL's first launch attempt for the RS1 is next Saturday and Firefly's second for the Alpha is the day after that.

[Anonymous No.14821149]

>>14821042
If you eat >50g of microalgae every day you're going to get sick.
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/celss.php#algaedanger

[Anonymous No.14821152]

>>14821141
fish isn't meat

[Anonymous No.14821153]

>>14821145
just take frozen sperm and eggs, then artificially grow them on mars

[Anonymous No.14821158]

>>14821153
How are you gonna grow them?

[Anonymous No.14821162]

>>14821141
For Mars chickens you're going to need either fast transfers to ship fertilized eggs before they hatch, suspended animation for chickens so they don't retard themselves apart in transit, or some kind of bullshit Jurassic Park setup for going from raw DNA to viable eggs.

[Anonymous No.14821163]

>>14821116
>problem with cultured meat is that you need lot of very pure chemicals
no you don't, you use bioreactors and easily produced nutrient mixtures derived from plants. it's really straightforward and it is being actively developed to make meat in space-they did testing on this just recently.
https://www.aleph-farms.com/aleph-zero
>>14821132
anon no one is bringing cows to space anytime soon. we've never even had a basic rotational gravity test mission and nothing like that is even planned.

[Anonymous No.14821168]

Shut the fuck up you little faggots. You'll eat the Methylococcus capsulatus pellets and you'll love it

[Anonymous No.14821177]

>>14821163
Now I want to see cows in zero g. MOO!

[Anonymous No.14821180]

We will eat beans exclusively and males will breastfeed the little children (on Mars). This was decided on /sfg/ in 2020 (by me)

[Anonymous No.14821185]

All anyone needs is ramen. Facts.

[Anonymous No.14821186]

>>14821177
>tfw it's your day to go into the cow chamber and dodge hundreds of floating blobs of urine-shit-vomit amalgam to unblock the vents
a-at least the captain will eventually get to have a nice steak, heh heh...

[Anonymous No.14821188]

>>14821177
Imagine the stomach sloshing

[Anonymous No.14821191]

>>14821158
Ahem...

[Anonymous No.14821193]

Reminder that animals are Earthers and they shouldn't be allowed to leave the planet. Mars should either have its own animals or none at all.

[Anonymous No.14821205]

>>14821162
'You can buy a book called Dr Chase's Information for Everybody.

It was written by a British doctor for the first colonists. In that book it tells you exactly how they preserved eggs to be transported across the Atlantic and hatched on American soil.

I put this to the test on three separate occasions and it absolutely works, being able to hatch eggs a year after they were laid.

All you need are fresh clean unwashed hard-shelled, fertilized eggs, varnish ( real lacquer varnish not polyurethane) and sawdust.

Coat each egg with a thin layer of varnish, making sure to completely cover the entire egg. Let them air-dry and then pack them in sawdust. ( I use a 5 gallon bucket)

They can remain an incredible amount of time and still be viable for hatching or eating if necessary.

Glassing will keep eggs over a season and still leave them fresh.'
https://www.quora.com/Can-fertilized-chicken-eggs-be-put-into-suspended-animation-so-they-can-be-viable-after-long-term-storage

[Anonymous No.14821207]

How the fuck are these kind of launches not a mundane, routine thing in 2022? I get rockets are ridiculously complicated, but we've had decades to figure this shit out.

[Anonymous No.14821210]

>>14820893
So where's the meat. I'll settle for real cheese or eggs.
>inb4 vegan and ze bugs
unironically kill yourself

[Anonymous No.14821213]

>>14821207
Space hard, there's simply no way to do it cheaply, it's not that simple in rocket etc...

[Anonymous No.14821214]

>>14821210
>>14820535

[Anonymous No.14821217]

>/sfg/ - /ck/

[Anonymous No.14821219]

>>14821193
Gay and cringe opinion, we are taking life to the stars.

[Anonymous No.14821223]

>>14821219
>we

[Anonymous No.14821224]

>Milky way
>No milk
we need some good dwarf cow breeds

[Anonymous No.14821226]

>>14821210
lmao people are so triggered over a handful of dumb clickbait articles from nobodies about eating bugs being a big thing for the future

even the most boosterish predictions of bugs as food in the west have them as a minor novelty food, incapable of making a real dent in average american and european food consumption.

cultured meat is going to annihilate any chance of bugs being a major food, especially once its chepaer than standard meat. normal meat will still be around, and it should be forever imo to give people options and to allow people to engage in animal husbandry if they want, but it will get more expensive most likely. and i think cultured meat on mars and in space will be a big thing-i certainly don't want to go rabbit mode in space.

[Anonymous No.14821227]

>>14821207
SpaceX is launching and recovering one Falcon 9 about every 6 days. Next year they plan to cut that down to one launch every 3-4 days. It's easy and mundane if the people involved have a motivation to make it that way.

[Anonymous No.14821229]

>>14821207
Space is hard please understand [math]\unicode{x1F595}[/math]

[Anonymous No.14821232]

>>14821177
Imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.14821233]

>>14821193
once it evolves for 0g it will be martian animals(and plants)

[Anonymous No.14821234]

>>14821217
Food is one of the great unsolved problems of colonizing Mars, perhaps the largest at this point.

[Anonymous No.14821235]

>>14821224
Dexter cattle

[Anonymous No.14821239]

>>14821205
Can you do that with human eggs?

[Anonymous No.14821243]

>>14821207
Nasa had a different quality of human decades ago

[Anonymous No.14821248]

>>14821149
good to know
I don't think you would want to eat that much of it even if it didn't give you gout anyway

[Anonymous No.14821250]

>>14821239
If you can get a human to lay shelled eggs, sure.

[Anonymous No.14821253]

>>14821239
Sure but they don't taste great

[Anonymous No.14821254]

>>14820899
Common sense has at no point played a roll in the funding of SLS. Senate will keep funding it no matter what, even if Musk lands a hundred ships on Mars next year.

[Anonymous No.14821257]

>>14820893
>loofa are plants that grow in trees
for most of my life I believed these were some sort of sea creature.

[Anonymous No.14821261]

>>14821235
That thing is too cute to make burgers from

[Anonymous No.14821262]

>>14820681
How many millions of dollars were spent painting each of those pumpkins with a NASA logo?

[Anonymous No.14821266]

>>14821145
How would a cow raised in 0.4g's meat differ from that of an Earth cow? Less dense? Fattier? Stringy?

[Anonymous No.14821273]

>>14821232

[Anonymous No.14821274]

>>14821266
It'd unironically be much better. That's the reasoning behind the production of A5 Wagyu and similar, you want lazy, sedentary cows with calorie rich diets. 0g beef would probably melt in your mouth

[Anonymous No.14821277]

>>14821273
Is breast milk actually tasty?

[Anonymous No.14821280]

You will never be a viable rocket. You have no reusability, you have no mass production, you have no technological breakthroughs. You are an obsolete design twisted by budget cuts and corporate greed into a crude mockery of aerospace engineering.

All the “proposed launches” you get are two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your engineers are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “MP's” laugh at your ghoulish costs behind closed doors.

Payload contractors are utterly repulsed by you. SpaceX market dominance has allowed companies to sniff out overpriced launch systems with incredible efficiency. Even oldspace rockets that “fly” look costly and crude to a space agency. Your Upper Liquid Propulsion Module is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk French assemblyman to consider a program extension, he'll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a sight of the bill for your Vulcain's

You will never be operational. ESA will wrench out fake inspirational videos every single year and tell the public "we gaan", but deep inside you feel the delays creeping up like weeds, ready to crush you under the unbearable cost increases.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - they'll fill you with hydrolox, launch you into orbit, loop a half-scale Space Rider into orbit and shelve the program, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. Arianegroup will reuse your engines and boosters in another ESA-approved cost-plus scheme, and every frog for the rest of eternity will know 20 billion Euro of his money are buried there. Your blueprints will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a hydrolox engine that was unmistakably developed in the early 70's.

[Anonymous No.14821283]

>>14821273
>donated.
You just know some sick fuck is drinking that breastmilk.

[Anonymous No.14821284]

>>14821277
It's very sweet. Sugary.

[Anonymous No.14821286]

>>14821273
Wow!

[Anonymous No.14821290]

>>14820773
>comments all spamming about "m-muh NAZISSSSSS"

[Anonymous No.14821291]

>>14821273
leave this to me

[Anonymous No.14821300]

>>14820311
>They were supposed to launch last year, but since they were relying on Rocket Lab to launch it, it ran into delays
Isn't RocketLab launch cadence limited by their customers readiness?

[Anonymous No.14821306]

>>14821273
>1.75 gallons/day

[Anonymous No.14821314]

>>14821273
A company in Canada will turn breast milk into freeze dried powder.

[Anonymous No.14821324]

>>14820773
>>14820833
webm: >>>/wsg/4719241

>>14820804
He was not a Christian then. He converted to Christianity when he realized that Christian Americans are morally superior to atheistic soviets.

[Anonymous No.14821330]

>>14820773
>>14821290
All the more reason a starship should be named after him. Faggots on twitter think they’re intellectuals by “discovering” his past and pointing it out like nobody else knew he was SS.
Anyways, the story of his conversion to Christianity is a funny one. Coworkers gave him grief and would leave pamphlets on his desk and then one day he started asking theology questions after becoming concerned about the topic of morality and a final judgement. He started going to church and stated it changed his views completely. It wasn’t just surface level either—Wernher would famously go to black colleges to recruit engineers because he realized they had prejudice against them and he knew they would in many cases work harder because they wanted to prove themselves. He befriended many professors there, and on one occasion did an unscheduled test fire of an F1 engine as an intimidation method after lecturing the alabama governer who was in favor of segregation whereas wernher was not. The man had a complete turn around in his life while chasing the stars and helping us reach the moon only for room temperature faggots 60 years later to try and bash him

[Anonymous No.14821332]

>>14821273
mi trabajo...

[Anonymous No.14821335]

>>14821330
wtf I hate von Braun now

[Anonymous No.14821339]

>>14821283
yeah, him
https://twitter.com/BreastMilkEnjyr

[Anonymous No.14821342]

>>14821324
Conflicted. I never cared about this stuff, but if Uncle Wernher says so it must be important

[Anonymous No.14821351]

>>14821335
his ONLY mistake was becoming a lutheran instead of a catholic

[Anonymous No.14821360]

>>14821351
>join the RCC
lol no mackerel snappers

[Anonymous No.14821367]

>>14820116
I am not saying the rocket won't ever reach orbit. I'm saying that it would have done so already if only white men were allowed to work on it.
All those years and billions didn't need to be wasted to pander to the mediocrity of diversity hires.

[Anonymous No.14821370]

>>14821330
I wonder what the ethnic composition of the neighbourhoods his descendants live in is?

[Anonymous No.14821373]

This thread is so astroturfed. LOL. I know Isaac Newton was English, but seriously.

[Anonymous No.14821377]

>>14821330
Extremely unbased, an example of what unchecked Americanisation does to a man

[Anonymous No.14821380]

>>14821273
The only reason we should be bringing women to Mars, despite the dangers they pose

[Anonymous No.14821385]

>>14821373
t. seething papist

[Anonymous No.14821392]

>>14821380
also bouncy bouncy

[Anonymous No.14821400]

>>14821377
>Americanisation
Please stop blaming innocent Americans for the crimes of their ZOG overlords. Von Braun was pressured into behaving the way he did by his ZOG political masters. His cohorts who were abducted into slavery by the USSR all went through the same treatment

[Anonymous No.14821406]

Christfags gtfo
As the cloud is consumed and vanishes away, so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. Job 7:9
But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he? ... So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep ... If a man die, shall he live again? Job 14:10-14
For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? Psalm 6:5
O spare me, that I may recover strength, before I go hence, and be no more. Psalm 39:13
The dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward. Ecclesiastes 9:5
For there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. Ecclesiastes 9:10
A sinful man ... his glory is dung, and worms ... tomorrow he shall not be found, because he is returned into his earth; and his thought is come to nothing. 1 Machabees 2:62-63

[Anonymous No.14821421]

SLS, but it's kerolox

[Anonymous No.14821424]

>>14821224
SMASHED
SLAMMED

[Anonymous No.14821427]

>>14821421
With the AR1 engine. Fuck the F1B I know it gets love but it would have sucked

[Anonymous No.14821438]

>>14821421
NOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE IT WORK LIKE THAT!

[Anonymous No.14821448]

I have a feeling NASA will abandon the clean pad approach and scrap ML2

I mean, who else is gonna be making use of 39B but NASA SLS?

>A similar problem in using the STS technology is with the SRBs. The solid fuel adds a lot of weight to the mobile platform, which did not matter for STS because the heavy launch tower was at the pad. For SLS, the tower needs to be on the mobile platform to steady the taller rocket and the SRBs have an additional segment with even more weight. The new tower being built for the SLS with bigger upper stage is now beyond the limits of the crawler transporter. The massive Saturn V did not use SRBs and was mostly empty liquid fuel tanks on the way to the pad.

[Anonymous No.14821453]

>>14821448
>Also, those SRBs have now been stacked beyond the certification date and another delay until late October will add more risk of SRB failure requiring flight termination. Congress and NASA have really painted themselves into a corner with decisions made a long time ago.

NASA is sooo fucked

[Anonymous No.14821459]

can someone tell me why they went with SLS instead of the simpler Shuttle-C?

[Anonymous No.14821463]

can't they get someone to get inside and push the fuel back in place

[Anonymous No.14821464]

>>14821448
If they ruin the crawler with this fat pig of a rocket I am going to be so mad.

[Anonymous No.14821468]

>>14821448
Inb4 SpaeX start building another chopstick tower of their own at 39B to expand the fleet

[Anonymous No.14821471]

>>14821459
Because they're opposed to any re-use, for reasons of politics and corruption.

[Anonymous No.14821474]

>>14821464
https://mashable.com/article/nasa-artemis-rocket-launchpad-launch-attempt

[Anonymous No.14821480]

>>14821459
For the same reason the thought that "Shuttle II" had to be a hydrogen-fueled SSTO spaceplane. SLS is going to the moon so it has to be a big rocket like the Saturn V, because that's what a rocket that goes to the moon has to be like. Remember, this was a rocket that was designed by congressional aids, not by actual rocket scientists.

[Anonymous No.14821481]

Wtf is this real?

[Anonymous No.14821487]

>>14821474
it's not fair, hasn't she done enough already?

they're going to kill her just so they can spend many billions of dollars building a new one that's worse, aren't they?

[Anonymous No.14821490]

>>14820672
Main problem with the artemis falcon. Is falcons proportions. She is a tall skinny thing. Any taller and she'll wiggle too much.

[Anonymous No.14821493]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343705231_Development_of_a_Nytrox-Paraffin_Hybrid_Rocket_Engine

[Anonymous No.14821495]

>>14821481
It sounds about as real as
>Elon unveils SpaceX's ASTOUNDING new warp drive! IT'S OVER!

I'm sure Boeing is read to be done with losing money on the Starliner embarrassment, but they still have 6+1 contractually required missions that they can get paid something for, and NASA has no reason to "pull the plug." The title sounds clickbait as fuck.

[Anonymous No.14821496]

>>14821459

[Anonymous No.14821505]

So that's why it was removed

[Anonymous No.14821510]

>>14821474
>With the new course NASA's charting, it seems his team can't relax just yet. That moment may arrive soon.
>"When it's in orbit," Giles said. "And I know it's not coming back."
NASA wants off Senator Administrator's wild ride

[Anonymous No.14821511]

>>14821459
Shuttle-C for cargo threatened astronaut jobs and so astronauts killed it.

[Anonymous No.14821514]

>>14821427
>Fuck the F1B I know it gets love but it would have sucked

The F-1B doesn't actually exist either.

[Anonymous No.14821518]

>>14821459
Side mounts are too enlightened for modern age naysah, and part of artemis funding required Ares crapware which is not compatible, unless you want to go back to constellation and before they pulled the plug

[Anonymous No.14821524]

>>14821481
Starliner dies when the last Atlas V assigned to it flies.

[Anonymous No.14821525]

>>14821505
best looking WEBM I ever saw

[Anonymous No.14821526]

>>14821459
Imagine... how much dV would a Shuttle have if it docked to a full ET tank in space just hours later after it launched?

idc about the feasibility of that just the dV available from a full ET in orbit

[Anonymous No.14821532]

>>14821490
just install Kerbal Joint Reinforcement

[Anonymous No.14821536]

>>14821480
>SLS is going to the moon so it has to be a big rocket like the Saturn V
Its such idiotic reasoning. There's no reason we couldn't launch 2 Shuttle-Cs and link the payloads up in LEO, its not the 60s we have a lot of experience doing shit like that now. And because it's uncrewed you can take risks to boost the payloads like picrel

[Anonymous No.14821544]

>>14820672
just put the entire falcon in a fairing
ez

[Anonymous No.14821549]

Expendable launch towers

[Anonymous No.14821552]

>>14821549
They said I was mad for building my launch tower out of wood

[Anonymous No.14821557]

I am the Space God

[Anonymous No.14821556]

>>14821552
No, Dennis, we said you were mad for building your launch tower out of MORNING wood.

[Anonymous No.14821579]

>>14821459
Congressional requirements for payload to LEO were higher than what Shuttle-C or other side-mounted SDLVs could attain. They also specifically forced an integrated launcher.
https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/649377main_PL_111-267.pdf
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20050092397/downloads/20050092397.pdf

[Anonymous No.14821587]

[Anonymous No.14821643]

>>14821536
It would have unironically been cheaper to design a Shuttle II from scratch compared to keeping it online, and it would have been cheaper still to just design a Saturn V size rocket from scratch

[Anonymous No.14821679]

>>14820804

[Anonymous No.14821684]

>>14820017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NONM-xsKMSs

3 hours till live

[Anonymous No.14821694]

>>14821684
>They're launching a SherpaLTC

Guess they figured out what was causing the leaks

[Anonymous No.14821708]

>>14820871
It’s true that no further explanation is needed when a complex technical project exceeds its deadlines and budget, even more so when it’s being done on a cost-plus basis.

At the same time it shouldn’t be surprising if the social parasites whose sole job function is extracting the maximum possible amount from the federal government for a decades-long project consider the political consequences of each outcome and don’t ignore the next administration.

[Anonymous No.14821718]

>>14820893
It's more like 31 pages.
https://www.docdroid.net/uGf3k1F/sfg-anon-2021-r1-pdf

>>14821342
He was working from incomplete data that later work on computing (and black holes) would contradict. Mass-energy does not disappear, but information does. The mind is a pattern of information within the physical confines of the brain, a pattern which can be altered by physical changes to the brain. It would be nice if he was right, but anyone who's ever watched an elderly relative (or Joe Biden lmao) degrade at the end of their life knows it's not true.

[Anonymous No.14821722]

>>14821141
t. never heard of eating old people

[Anonymous No.14821723]

>>14821067
That would've been almost exactly like SLS but without the shuttle contractor memes and therefore better.

[Anonymous No.14821725]

>>14821496
>cargo variant
>must be human rated
....why

[Anonymous No.14821735]

>>14821149
solution: send only Japanese colonists
The Japanese diet is so high in seaweed they have unique adaptations to it, including gut bacteria that produce porphyranases and agarases that enable them to more completely digest algae.

[Anonymous No.14821742]

>>14821257
same
I’m switching back to sponges.

[Anonymous No.14821743]

>>14821162
Just put them in a spincoop

[Anonymous No.14821751]

>>14821277
Yes! The flavor is further enhanced when you can get it warm and straight from the source and the source is attractive.

[Anonymous No.14821763]

>>14821526
Anyone know?

Pic related is my captcha, now you have to answer!

[Anonymous No.14821792]

>>14820208
Easier to store

[Anonymous No.14821794]

>>14820858
Could Dragon handle reentry if they do controlled aerobraking? (bleeding off a little velocity at a time). It'd take longer to do reentry, obviously, but it seems like an option.

[Anonymous No.14821799]

>>14820381
>to avoid grift
Oh it's there. It's just not quite not as pronounced.

[Anonymous No.14821800]

>>14820350
How big is the site going to be? The procimity to gigatexas (which is also teslas hq) makes me think its just going to be where spacex hq is going to get moved at some point
Also closet to launch sites assuming boca chica and the cape are going to be the main areas

[Anonymous No.14821804]

>>14821723
I don't think you would have had to leave all the shuttle contractors out in the cold. RSRMs would make great replacements for the SRMUs and you could actually get some cost savings by sharing a production line with
an active shuttle program.

>>14821763
A fully loaded external tank weighs in at around 750 tons, which is way, way, WAY too much for any combination of boosters to lift to orbit. But if you could get it up there and get somehow get Endeavour docked to it the combined stack would have roughly 9.3 km/s dV in the tank, assuming Endeavour was just the orbiter with nothing in the payload bay. If you added in the standard ~24,000 kg of stuff that'd drop to about 8.5 km/s.

[Anonymous No.14821810]

>>14821804
>roughly 9.3 km/s dV in the tank, assuming Endeavour was just the orbiter with nothing in the payload bay. If you added in the standard ~24,000 kg of stuff that'd drop to about 8.5 km/s.

Nice, enough to the moon and back, they should have tested it with modified ET as a fuel depot or something, Shuttle around the moon would be kino

[Anonymous No.14821816]

guys how long has SLS been rolled out of the VAB for
what was the date for the SLS rollout

[Anonymous No.14821818]

>>14821816
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.14821819]

>>14820043

[Anonymous No.14821820]

>>14821816
almost 25 days

[Anonymous No.14821825]

>>14821810

[Anonymous No.14821830]

>>14821072
the prostrat is like rabbits and tilapia with crabs

[Anonymous No.14821832]

>>14821825
kino

[Anonymous No.14821835]

>>14821832
kino [ kee-noh ] noun, plural ki·nos, (in Europe) a movie theater; cinema.

[Anonymous No.14821836]

>>14821794
I think you'd end up in a highly elliptical orbit taking you through the Van Allen belts

[Anonymous No.14821838]

>>14821835
it's so much more, kino stirs the heart and soul

[Anonymous No.14821841]

>>14821819
wtf I love epistles now

[Anonymous No.14821851]

>>14821277
it's okay

[Anonymous No.14821861]

>>14821810
>>14821825
I'm sure those tiles can take lunar reentry speeds

[Anonymous No.14821867]

>>14821861
Point being, wouldn't it be cool if they COULD.

[Anonymous No.14821871]

>>14821330
So he got brainwashed by american culture?

[Anonymous No.14821874]

>>14821871
You prefer he be brainwashed by nazi culture?

[Anonymous No.14821875]

>>14821874
Yes.

[Anonymous No.14821880]

>>14821875
Fuck nazis

[Anonymous No.14821884]

>>14821880
t.

[Anonymous No.14821888]

Modern NASA would never

https://twitter.com/Interlunar13/status/1566177518473936896

>A liquid hydrogen GSE leak occured during Apollo 11, around 2 hours 45 minutes before launch
Almost causing a scrub, the leak was eventually resolved by "freezing the valve by pouring water over it" and using an alternative valve.

[Anonymous No.14821891]

>>14821880
Controversial stance on 4chan, but I'll take it.

[Anonymous No.14821892]

>>14821874
Look at the state of america right now amd what it has done to western culture in general

[Anonymous No.14821895]

Casey handmer really has a hateboner for space based solar, going into random twitter threads and starting long arguments about it lmao

[Anonymous No.14821901]

>>14821895
he shook cause the Ukraine war showed solar is meme garbage and his gay little venture is doomed lol

[Anonymous No.14821910]

[Anonymous No.14821913]

>>14821901
>the Ukraine war showed solar is meme garbage
The war is actually reinforcing the value of Terraform Industries or a nuclear-backed equivalent as a tool of US foreign policy. The US has cheap power, plenty of sunlight, and wants to be able to keep selling LNG after all the fracking wells run dry. That's perfect for atmospheric capture. If you mean that solar doesn't work in Europe, then yes, he's getting BTFO.

[Anonymous No.14821920]

>>14821901
He has been arguing against space based solar power not for it.

[Anonymous No.14821925]

>>14821913
>If you mean that solar doesn't work in Europe, then yes, he's getting BTFO.
Yeah, he boosts it as suitable everywhere which is nuts and people are catching on to its limitations

[Anonymous No.14821926]

>>14821925
Doesn't the surface of Mars have similar overall insolation levels as Europe? Nuclearchads rise up, it's time again.

[Anonymous No.14821928]

>>14821871
I made no such assumption in my post, everyone is reading way too much into it lol

[Anonymous No.14821931]

>>14821177
>>14821186
>>14821188
>0G gives cows instant DA and they die from colic

[Anonymous No.14821933]

>>14821926
eh Mars insolation is way more predictable than Europes, barring the very rare duststorm

[Anonymous No.14821943]

>>14821925
By "people", you mean contrarian /pol/tards that are useful idiots for the dying nuclear industry, such as (>>14821901)

[Anonymous No.14821953]

i think we should asap branch out from just mars and get colonization of the asteroid belt, titan, the kuiper belt and even the oort cloud rolling along. it's important to have momentum. we fucked up the moon by not staying on target and using what we learned to plan and do a mars mission within a decade or two. i think if we lose momentum again we are sunk as a species.

[Anonymous No.14821969]

>>14821953
The problem with those is travel time for manned missions. We either need Mars as a staging post to launch from or we need high thrust/Isp propulsion to get to the outer system and back in a reasonable time.

[Anonymous No.14821981]

>>14821969
that's in the cards, although it is some ways out. The key thing is to try to signal boost those planning these next steps and for any of us with the ability to to work on these sorts of problems to do so.
As an example, the direct fusion drive concept is making strong progress, with a lot of its intial assumptions having been born out in the prototypes they have made.
https://youtu.be/hOmqFNKwwvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klguiNg0BEM
at this point the key thing is funding and warm bodies, and both of these are things that are starting to happen for next gen propulsion.
Other things we need more energy in are in-orbit manufacturing, mining, life support, food production, radiation mitigation-it's a very wide space of problems that need blood sweat and tears spilled to overcome.
It really needs to be all hands on deck-if you lack the education or capacity to directly work on this, at the very least always try to be an efective exponent of space policy. above all, push back against those who defame space as "a rich man's playground" as the empty-brained simpletons they are-as if the incredible material benefits of space technology haven't made life for all humans vastly better! Fight ignorance with knowledge if you can't contribute in any other way.

[Anonymous No.14822017]

>>14821953
NSWRs and the colonization of the Tau Ceti system is the long term goal. Obviously this is unsustainable with sh*t like SLS

[Anonymous No.14822022]

>The more powerful Exploration Upper Stage on future configurations of the rocket will enable daily, or near-daily, launch opportunities to the Moon, depending on the orbit desired.

[Anonymous No.14822025]

>>14822022
That will be $400 million plus tip please

[Anonymous No.14822028]

>>14822025
>pork flowing intensifies

[Anonymous No.14822029]

>>14821981
>Only 5-10 newtons of thrust per MW but it requires breakeven fusion to work and it's fueled by helium-3.
>Isp worse than demonstrated electric propulsion
Lmao, the DFD is literally a scam. If this technology had any potential they would be getting hundreds of millions for their terrestrial closed cycle fusion reactor of the same design, instead they're hoping to crowdfund 100k for this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14822031]

>>14820773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjDEsGZLbio
cancel this nazi

[Anonymous No.14822032]

18 minutes till starlink

[Anonymous No.14822033]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NONM-xsKMSs

[Anonymous No.14822036]

space is too damn expensive

[Anonymous No.14822037]

>>14822036
Time to cancel space. This guy says so.

[Anonymous No.14822054]

>>14822029
10k seconds of isp and fuckloads of electrical power out to the outer solar system is amazing-what can beat that out ot pluto? I know of nothing. and there's all kinds of other types of fusion propulsion ot explore after it like the sfs z-pinch

[Anonymous No.14822057]

>>14822036
That's what Starship is eventually going to solve

[Anonymous No.14822066]

starlink launch live

[Anonymous No.14822067]

night launch best launch

[Anonymous No.14822068]

Look at the moon modern NASA can't get to, sad

[Anonymous No.14822070]

>No Clear chan

[Anonymous No.14822071]

i love you jessie..

[Anonymous No.14822073]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlGXB7mkhC8

Got the LC-39B feed open just in case the launch lights it up but SLC-40 is pretty far so idk

[Anonymous No.14822075]

>>14822071
Jessie SUCKS, what happened to the chocolate qt

[Anonymous No.14822076]

>>14822071
Go work at SpaceX and meet her anon

[Anonymous No.14822077]

Hehe this is Starlink 4-20

[Anonymous No.14822078]

[Anonymous No.14822079]

>>14822073
>Dabs on SLS

[Anonymous No.14822082]

>camera flare
blah
Max Q though.

[Anonymous No.14822084]

MaxQute

[Anonymous No.14822085]

How long has it been since a Falcon 9 even failed to land, let alone failed an orbital insertion? It's been so long I can't even remember

[Anonymous No.14822087]

>Starlink 4-20 isn't launching on booster 1069

[Anonymous No.14822088]

MVac startup seemed a little slow today.

[Anonymous No.14822089]

No change in lighting, maybe if it was LC-39A

[Anonymous No.14822090]

>>14822071
Her voice is ASMR hardon material

[Anonymous No.14822091]

was kinda cloudy tonight, but still love to watch it

[Anonymous No.14822094]

>>14822085
Starlink 19 in Feb '21

[Anonymous No.14822095]

>The VIRGIN SLS vs the CHAD FALCON NINE

[Anonymous No.14822096]

178th launch


IMMENSE

[Anonymous No.14822097]

>>14822089
Buddy, do you have anything to say about those recomendations?

[Anonymous No.14822098]

ROUTINE

[Anonymous No.14822099]

>>14822098
Space is NOT Routine

Space is HARD. - NASA

[Anonymous No.14822102]

>>1482209
No comment

[Anonymous No.14822103]

KEROLOGS GUD

HYDROLOGS BAD

[Anonymous No.14822104]

>>14822103
Yes.

[Anonymous No.14822105]

>>14822103
Is it really that easy in rocketry?

[Anonymous No.14822107]

>>14822102
>>14822097

[Anonymous No.14822108]

>>14822054
200 kWe isn't a fuckload of power, at the cost of a slightly larger turbine they could have MWs of power, and just ditch the direct drive scheme since electric propulsion is more efficient so it would generate more thrust per watt at 10,000 seconds of Isp, but it could also be tuned to provide higher thrust/lower specific impulse, or vice versa, for other missions
>and there's all kinds of other types of fusion propulsion ot explore after it like the sfs z-pinch
I like how you're pretending this is easily achievable when most other fusion designs would still be very difficult to produce but much easier than this since it's d-he-3 fusion

[Anonymous No.14822109]

WHERE IS THE SECOND STAGE CAM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE WHEN THEY DO THIS

[Anonymous No.14822110]

>>14822098
Damn, we are close to reaching a point where rocket launches will be the same as airplane take offs. How is to watch one irl? my ticket to gape canaveral is for the next year, so i still have to wait a bit more and get a fake vax card.

[Anonymous No.14822111]

[Anonymous No.14822113]

Elon can't keep getting away with it

[Anonymous No.14822114]

Cool landing, well done again.

[Anonymous No.14822115]

>>14822103
kerolox queen slaaay yaas

[Anonymous No.14822116]

Holy shit that landing looked SMOOTH as fuck

[Anonymous No.14822117]

It's like, three feet off of dead center.

[Anonymous No.14822119]

>tfw riding in a Dragon on a F9 is statistically safer than a 737 max

rumao

[Anonymous No.14822121]

>>14822117
Very close

[Anonymous No.14822123]

>>14822116
Let's see NASA's landing

[Anonymous No.14822125]

>>14822117
>Can't land Falcon 9 on center after 100 landings
>Trying to catch Starship and Super Heavy

[Anonymous No.14822126]

Aw yeah, spacejams stream.

[Anonymous No.14822127]

>>14822117
The AI guidance systems be slacking, quick, train them on more images of seagulls landing perfectly to steal french fries

[Anonymous No.14822128]

Will listening to this music for very long turn me gay?

[Anonymous No.14822129]

>it seems my superiority has led to some controversy

[Anonymous No.14822130]

Moon.

[Anonymous No.14822131]

>>14822128
>/sci/
>Not already gay

[Anonymous No.14822132]

>>14822125
Both super heavy and starship will hover such that they can be catch easier than land

[Anonymous No.14822133]

>>14822130
at least I think it is?

[Anonymous No.14822138]

>>14822133
Yes, i can see it from my window and it has the same shape

[Anonymous No.14822139]

>>14822126
COME ON AND SLAM

[Anonymous No.14822140]

>>14822128
maybe

[Anonymous No.14822141]

Elon's musk

[Anonymous No.14822144]

>>14822130
>>14822138
>SpaceX is closer to the Moon than NASA

[Anonymous No.14822145]

>>14822138
sugoi

SLS-chan is so jealous right now I almost feel bad for her

[Anonymous No.14822148]

>>14822123
the SLS has a perfect recovery record so far: two attempts, two retrievals, barely any refurbishment required! The safest way to recover the vehicle is to never let it launch in the first place, something SpaceX has yet to discover.

[Anonymous No.14822149]

>>14822145
I've always felt bad for SLS. Like, never shat on it, never badmouthed it, just felt... bad. It's like watching a kid do his hair and clothes really well, but fail to wash his face so he's covered in acne.

[Anonymous No.14822152]

>>14822075
She quit SpaceX to join blue origin, then became the coo of firefly before finally quitting again. Now she is a consultant.

[Anonymous No.14822153]

>>14822149
The engineers got stuck with what Congress told them to use. It's the opposite of what NASA should be doing.

[Anonymous No.14822154]

>>14822148
This is next level recovery strategy

[Anonymous No.14822156]

>>14822141
SEC, middle word is Elon's

[Anonymous No.14822159]

>>14822156
Subsidize Elon's Companies

[Anonymous No.14822160]

>>14822144
so is South Korea (also thanks to SpaceX). They just announced that they also skipped their fourth orbital correction maneuver because the last correction was so accurate, and their lunar orbiter is on track to enter orbit on schedule

[Anonymous No.14822165]

>>14822160
This can't be happening.

NASA is in charge here.

[Anonymous No.14822166]

FAA has announced that SpaceX has to ground all Falcon 9 launches until KSC environmental reviews are complete.

[Anonymous No.14822169]

>>14822153
Which is sad because there are so many ways it could have been done better. I don't think I've actually seen a proposed shuttle-derived moon rocket that's worse than what we got.

[Anonymous No.14822170]

>>14822166
No

[Anonymous No.14822173]

I kind of like the space jams, a litle steril at first, but then gets soulfull wth the time.

[Anonymous No.14822174]

>>14822169
>I don't think I've actually seen a proposed shuttle-derived moon rocket that's worse than what we got.
SLS is what they all converge on. Shuttle-C didn't have the lift capacity and all the "better" designs make generous assumptions about the ability to use mostly-stock ETs which SLS proved to be unphysical.

[Anonymous No.14822177]

why not just use like 10 SRBs for the first stage or two and have a spaceplane upper?? you could even make that fully reusable.

[Anonymous No.14822179]

>>14822177
If it works in KSP it works IRL

[Anonymous No.14822181]

>>14822179
First rule of spaceflight

[Anonymous No.14822183]

where did Jessie go

[Anonymous No.14822187]

>>14822177
It'd end up being a sidehanger like the Shuttle with moar SRBs.

[Anonymous No.14822193]

https://spacenews.com/u-s-space-command-basing-decision-approaching-final-stretch/

space command to huntsville is happening

[Anonymous No.14822194]

>>14822193
awful

[Anonymous No.14822195]

Titan Shuttle concept from the 70’s. It still had the issues of the shuttle, but now with an extra pair of SRBs, and a hypergolic Titan core stage

[Anonymous No.14822201]

What's more impressive? SpaceX sending out weekly rockets for StarLink, successful every single time, or Artemis if it lands on the moon?

Why can SpaceX launch a rocket every 5 minutes but NASA can't figure out their fueling process? Is their mission actually that much harder than what SpaceX is doing?

[Anonymous No.14822202]

The music and the views right now... perfection

This is one of my favorite Starlink launches in a while

[Anonymous No.14822204]

>>14822201
>Artemis if it lands on the moon
Well considering it literally doesn't do that, Artemis

[Anonymous No.14822206]

>>14822202
it's just so chill

[Anonymous No.14822207]

>>14822202
>>14822206
Did NOAA approve this?

[Anonymous No.14822208]

>no groundstation coverage of deployment

my disappointment is immeasurable etc..

[Anonymous No.14822210]

>>14822195
On the one hand:
>even more SRBs
On the other hand:
>way more payload to polar orbit so it would satisfy the Air Force unlike Saturn-Shuttle
>force Rocketdong to make their SSMEs air lightable

[Anonymous No.14822211]

>>14822201
Space X could go from a blank white board and zero planning to having a falcon heavy moonshot a dragon in a month or two if they so wanted which would be effectively the same thing as Artemis pissing an untested capsule around the moon.

[Anonymous No.14822220]

>>14820037
very cool

[Anonymous No.14822230]

>>14822208
At least we got to hang out listening to cool music watching spacecraft fly over Antarctica.

[Anonymous No.14822284]

>>14822119
What do all those little thin pipes do?

Also anyone see the funny little message

[Anonymous No.14822299]

>>14822193
Give me $1,000 for 7 top notch spectacular valorific honorable dignified aweinspiring timeless powerful showoff uniforms please. Or at least $100 for 1, please. It is now dawning o me likely the need to be conservative in such a uniform design but we will see I guess, I geuss I should be contacting a movie costume maker, or fashion house, maybe I can do all though

[Anonymous No.14822301]

>>14822284
Mostly sensors iirc.

[Anonymous No.14822302]

>>14821875
>be a brutally militaristic culture
>believe the strongest will prevail through violence
>fight one war
>lose

[Anonymous No.14822303]

>>14822302
Did they really lose, though? Germany now makes policy decisions for most of Europe and the Russians and Americans are both falling apart.

[Anonymous No.14822308]

>>14821892
>what it has done to western culture in general
>what it has done
>>14822303
If your metrics say that America is falling apart then Germany (and all of western Europe) is also falling apart.
It is somewhat true, but that's because all of the developed and even developing world is falling apart at varying levels of extremity.

[Anonymous No.14822312]

>>14822303
Yes, they lose. They lost territory, they lost nationalism, they lost any glory left.
They got their shit back together due to the Allies actually helping them that time.
I guess the real win was that they got rid of that nazi retardness that was gonna screw them even if they had won and also didn't fall to communistic retardness either.

[Anonymous No.14822314]

>>14822308
>It is somewhat true, but that's because all of the developed and even developing world is falling apart at varying levels of extremity.
Thats true, i feel bad for countries like Chile or Argentina, apparently they were just starting to climb to the first world and they got jewed instantly.

[Anonymous No.14822322]

>oh yeah~ oh fuck~~ augh i'm FUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLING

[Anonymous No.14822323]

Is space infinite

[Anonymous No.14822329]

>>14822303
The won so hard they turned into a lamer version of the GDR

[Anonymous No.14822331]

>>14822323
>Infinity is retarded.
Embrace the toroidal universe

[Anonymous No.14822362]

>>14822193
>taking it away from Colorado Springs
I sense congressional horse trading

[Anonymous No.14822383]

>>14820211
I'm glad we have Anonymous here on /sci/ to Set The Record Straight™.

[Anonymous No.14822474]

>>14822362
Shelby is gone in less than five months, much of which is recesses or everyone else taking off to campaign. If there's one last high profile thing for him to burn favors on, this is it.

[Anonymous No.14822569]

shh... /sfg/ is asleep

[Anonymous No.14822580]

>>14822569
How can I sleep when there are so many Earthers to hate?

[Anonymous No.14822599]

>>14822580
angrily

[Anonymous No.14822605]

>>14822569
GOOD MORNING FELLOW BRITONS

[Anonymous No.14822618]

NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST LAND AN ORBITAL BOOSTER DEAD CENTER NOOOO IT HAS TO LAND IN THE OCEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Anonymous No.14822628]

2 different SpaceX launches in the same thread. How the hell do they launch so quickly

[Anonymous No.14822632]

>>14822599
GOD DAMN RIGHT

[Anonymous No.14822634]

>>14822628
Gumption, real ambition

[Anonymous No.14822635]

>>14822569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZw35VUBdzo
sleeping with the fishes

[Anonymous No.14822639]

Airbus stock doing better than Boeing

[Anonymous No.14822663]

>>14822284
'New Raptor who dis?'

[Anonymous No.14822665]

>>14822605
Funny isn't it

[Anonymous No.14822667]

>>14822605

[Anonymous No.14822668]

>>14822605
For 1 annual budget of UKSA we could buy a few Starship launches

[Anonymous No.14822674]

>>14822668
You don't know how much Starship costs.

[Anonymous No.14822682]

SpaceX has reached 40 falcon 9 launches this year. 28 more planned. Will they accomplish their goals?

[Anonymous No.14822685]

>>14822682
By the way if they maintain their current launch rate I calculated 62.8 launches/63 launches by the end of the year, or 5-6 short of their goal of 68. This is excluding Falcon Heavy launches and a starship orbital test.

[Anonymous No.14822693]

Spetember 9th. major happening in texas, will affect starship. Hawaii Starship landing unforeseen consequences Magnetic poles reversing 2 days before new years. If Jannies remove, their mother will die in their sleep tonight

[Anonymous No.14822727]

Alien Anime girl because why not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81zmF6uJgo8

[Anonymous No.14822735]

>>14822668
Yes but then it can't be squandered on helping women and ethnic minorities pretend they're as good as le evil white menz, which is obviously the most important goal for a space programme

[Anonymous No.14822741]

I'm afraid that Starship won't launch this year

[Anonymous No.14822748]

God damn...

[Anonymous No.14822793]

>>14822748
the Airforce should be investigated for this, they have a clear pro SpaceX bias

[Anonymous No.14822802]

>>14822793
Why does /sfg/ have so many victim-larpers?

[Anonymous No.14822814]

>>14822802
They are simply trolls.

[Anonymous No.14822831]

>>14822741
Shoulda built it in Arkansas, instead of texico

[Anonymous No.14822860]

>>14822831
>not Duluth
everyone knows the next big American spaceport location

[Anonymous No.14822872]

>>14822831
>landlocked oblast

[Anonymous No.14822955]

>>14821888
Why didn't they do this?

[Anonymous No.14822960]

>>14822955
Too dangerous.

[Anonymous No.14822980]

>>14822960
Nah it'll be fine

[Anonymous No.14822992]

(derogatory)

[Anonymous No.14822995]

>>14822992
The most beautiful planet

[Anonymous No.14822996]

these scams are getting more sophisticated. first row of my algorithm'd suggested videos on yt.

[Anonymous No.14823003]

>>14822872
Ship down the river to the launch site
Could go anywhere, whether it's oil rigs, artificial islands, Florida, or Texas

[Anonymous No.14823006]

lol
https://youtu.be/O6ehPVWrAr4
>>14823003
I really don't see a point when you can build the facility close to the launch site, and that's what SpaceX is doing.

[Anonymous No.14823011]

>>14822996
got the same vid recommended today

[Anonymous No.14823013]

AAAAGGHHH IM EXHAUSSSTTTINGGG

[Anonymous No.14823020]

>>14820175
>Some fag from the spaceflight general on a Romanian kettle boiling forum built an engine with a box of scraps
Did engineanon succeed? I've been away from this general for like 5-6 months. Is it the same guy who had a ridiculously thick liquid cooling jacket in his design?

[Anonymous No.14823024]

>>14820175
>Hell, someone from Reddit also built an engine, complete with simulations and fabrication

[Anonymous No.14823030]

>>14822995
Mars is far more alluring imho, like a red velvety mistress

[Anonymous No.14823031]

>>14823006
Boca Chica won't be their main construction site or their main launch site
Transportation is a trivial problem

[Anonymous No.14823035]

>>14820381
>>14821799
it's not that there's no grift

it's that europoors are so poor their module is reasonably priced even after all the grifters take their cut

[Anonymous No.14823038]

>>14820351
>78 falcon 9 launches
when was this made kek?

[Anonymous No.14823040]

>>14823035
>has to reuse nearly all parts of the shuttle
>calls europeans poor

[Anonymous No.14823051]

>>14821147
>ABL's first launch attempt for the RS1 is next Saturday and Firefly's second for the Alpha is the day after that.
kino incoming

[Anonymous No.14823058]

>>14822741
I have accepted this reality long ago

[Anonymous No.14823090]

Morning /sfg/. Happy Labor Daybor.

[Anonymous No.14823092]

>>14822955
It's not that easy in plumbery.

[Anonymous No.14823096]

>>14823090
But that was in May.

[Anonymous No.14823097]

>>14823051
And least we're going to get to see something launch for the first time.

[Anonymous No.14823099]

>>14823031
>9m tin can
>transportation is trivial
Of course! They can just flat-pack Starship!

[Anonymous No.14823102]

>>14823099
As long as they have water access, it's trivial, idiot

[Anonymous No.14823105]

https://youtu.be/Xn44xBU0WHY

[Anonymous No.14823117]

been working on this for a while, finally filled in the last ones...

Apos
Below Orbiters
Crab bucketers
Dirt sniffers
Earthnoids
Filthy Earther scum, Fallen
Ground pounders, Grass munchers
Hole Diggers
Impulse challenged
Jet repulsion
Kick dirters
Land-locked
Mole-men
No-flys
One-body problems
Pond scum
Quartz munchers
Retroids
Sand sniffers
Terraniggers
Urfers
Von Grounders
Xenophobes
Well-dwellers
Yaw arounds
Zero altitude

[Anonymous No.14823126]

>>14823099
Elon will regret not building cool heavy lift airships

[Anonymous No.14823139]

It's over.

[Anonymous No.14823147]

>>14823105
>NASA’s massive moon rocket will cost taxpayers trillions more than projected, auditor warns Congress

[Anonymous No.14823152]

>>14823147
>SLS becomes a key point in next year's Inflation Fighting Bill We Promise For Real This Time

[Anonymous No.14823155]

>>14823139
It looks like molten metal or ripped up parts of the thermal barrier. What is it?

[Anonymous No.14823162]

>>14823155
CH4 pipe banged up by flying debris during static fires

[Anonymous No.14823173]

>>14823126
>expendable airsips
Oh the humanity

[Anonymous No.14823178]

>>14822693
lol whatever you say fagstradamus

[Anonymous No.14823201]

>>14823102
>As long as they have water access, it's trivial, idiot
Yeah just send the $100s millions 1000s tons cylinder down the river on a raft

[Anonymous No.14823206]

>>14823201
>1000s tons cylinder

[Anonymous No.14823219]

>>14823201
>1000s tons cylinder

[Anonymous No.14823224]

>>14823139
They rushed the engine development... I fear they will have to start from scratch again

[Anonymous No.14823227]

>>14823224
>debris damage is because rushed engine development
ok

[Anonymous No.14823229]

>>14823224
>SpaceX builds a hybrid engine from scratch to kill the SRB permanently

[Anonymous No.14823233]

>>14823139
I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.14823237]

>>14823117
This is mine so far, got all but six

Astromonkies
Barochallenged
Colon-ists
Delicates
E
Floaters
Glowies
Heliotards
Irradiates
J
K
Lanklets
Male brestfeeders
Noodle people
Orbitoids
Piss-recyclers
Quasi-humans
Rust suckers
Spinfags
Terracels
U
Vagabonds
Xenophiles
Y
Z

[Anonymous No.14823245]

the fake stream is at 70k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMO3Px4QwdI

[Anonymous No.14823254]

>>14823245
it's almost all bots

[Anonymous No.14823255]

>>14823245
>vatnigger/chinkoid/north korean gvt can't figure out anything better to do with 70k ip addresses
LMAO

[Anonymous No.14823259]

>>14823237
>no Belter scum, Dusters, Loonies or Skinnies

[Anonymous No.14823263]

>>14823259
I want them to be more destinct from one another, that's why there's only lanklets and noodle-people

[Anonymous No.14823270]

>>14820057
>>14820418
>>14820057
>>14823117
YWNBAM

[Anonymous No.14823293]

Let's go!

[Anonymous No.14823294]

>>14823139
The debris strike issue seems to me like it will be a relatively simple if expensive fix, build a taller test stand make the concrete base out of a tougher, longer setting mix, and then cover it over in steel plates so even if it does crack it won't throw chunks outward.

[Anonymous No.14823301]

>>14822996
The same scam ring has been running for 3 years straight. 24/7 under multiple accounts.

Youtube doesn't want to solve this issue. They don't seem to care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8yRY4e8J7Q

[Anonymous No.14823304]

>>14823294
>cover it over in steel plates so even if it does crack it won't throw chunks outward
you could do this right now. anchor steel plates into the concrete and that's it.
how could this possibly not work at the current height?

[Anonymous No.14823311]

>>14823304
Should work fine for the purposes of debris containment, might get a bit melty after a couple dozen test fires or a full duration burn but what the shit, if SpaceX has anything in surplus it's huge rolls of steel plate.

[Anonymous No.14823314]

>>14823301
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2205.12897.pdf

[Anonymous No.14823321]

given that the RS-25 exhaust is low pressure and relatively low temperature steam could you put your hand in it

[Anonymous No.14823332]

>>14823321
yes for sure. pull it out after a few seconds and you'll be just fine.

[Anonymous No.14823351]

>>14823321
should be safe
https://youtu.be/hlwi1XZg2EA?t=72

[Anonymous No.14823358]

>>14823321
>merlin_sf_bird_20000fps.mp4

[Anonymous No.14823376]

>>14823201
yeah, so dumb
who in their right mind would transport rocket on an unstable raft...

[Anonymous No.14823377]

>>14823351
holy based, when we take a school trip to a smelting plant I'll do that

[Anonymous No.14823386]

>>14823376
>who in their right mind would transport rocket on an unstable raft...
well it says NASA on the rocket

[Anonymous No.14823397]

>>14823386
is clearly says VSVN

[Anonymous No.14823399]

>>14822111
fellow /sfgnfl/chad

[Anonymous No.14823407]

>>14823293
Whens this from what happened

[Anonymous No.14823409]

>>14823311
>might get a bit melty after a couple dozen test fires or a full duration burn
Rocket fuel can't melt steel plates

[Anonymous No.14823446]

>>14822727
same

[Anonymous No.14823447]

>>14822284
A lot of it is diagnostic stuff. Raptor 2 is much more simplified.

[Anonymous No.14823454]

>>14823020
no, we've had like three people attempt to make rocket engines and they've all fallen mysteriously silent after saying that they would post an update after their next test (they were on their way to run the test)
(they all died in test stand explosions)

[Anonymous No.14823458]

>>14823377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTOCAd2QhGg

[Anonymous No.14823468]

>>14823117
I love Captain Misurn

[Anonymous No.14823482]

>>14823454
I think he posted recently. Don't remember what though.

[Anonymous No.14823491]

>>14823454
The anon that considered using a car turbo as a turbopump said he changed his design to pressure fed. We were discussing how exactly he would pressurize his propellant tanks

[Anonymous No.14823521]

Bezos bros, how do we stop him? He is ruining everything

[Anonymous No.14823524]

>>14823521
>And 90% of my comments are bots
Amazing, just like this place!

[Anonymous No.14823533]

staging
>>14823528
>>14823528

>>14823528
>>14823528

>>14823528
>>14823528

[Anonymous No.14823566]

>>14823521
Elon showing his powerlevel. We are finally starting to fight back against SJWism.

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids

[sage No.14823775]

>>14823293
>>14823407
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_So-yeon
April 8, 2008 to April 19, 2008
The Koreans had a space program that involved paying the Russians $20 million to take one Korean to space. She was the backup for a dude, but the Russians claimed he was smuggling out sensitive materials and DQ'ed him.

Imagine sending a Korean woman to space and this is the one you pick.

[Anonymous No.14823786]

>>14823775
Cute!

[Anonymous No.14823982]

>>14823259
>no Belter scum
Belters are still far superior to Urf groundling scum.