http://www.answersingenesis.org/aftereden/index.aspx Hi there /sci/. Time for a rage thread I think

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Anonymous Sat May 22 23:09:13 2010 No.998211 [Reply] [Original]

http://www.answersingenesis.org/aftereden/index.aspx

Hi there /sci/. Time for a rage thread I think

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:10:13 2010 No.998219 >>998211 I think not. Thread closed.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:11:13 2010 No.998226 facepalm Meteorology is very poorly understood. Predicting weather is hardly the same as looking at a goddamn fossil. Idiots.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:12:13 2010 No.998237 File: 6 KB, 200x180, 1153934073988.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998226 >look at stone bones >know that dinos were coldblooded

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:13:13 2010 No.998243 in b4 fail troll

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:13:13 2010 No.998245 >>998211 Predicting the future is synonymous with looking into the past. Dohoho.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:13:13 2010 No.998250 >>998239 I know this is supposed to make me angry, but when I first read it I thought it was pro-science.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:14:13 2010 No.998255 >>998250 The logic is just really shitty..

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:14:34 2010 No.998256 File: 403 KB, 765x702, 1273920427210 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Someone explain this to me, it looks pretty god dam pointless.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:15:13 2010 No.998258 >>998239 I don't get it, and that upsets me.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:15:13 2010 No.998260 File: 9 KB, 321x240, Skeptical Irishmen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998237 Can someone explain to me why this doesn't make sense? Seems pretty logical to me.

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>>	Queenie !gLAmoURoUs Sat May 22 23:15:13 2010 No.998265 >>998226 Unfortunately, idiots will always try to disprove it for the sake of their unreasonable beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:15:13 2010 No.998266 File: 14 KB, 243x182, 1274425573298.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998257 >Implying we came from monkeys and not chimps.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:16:13 2010 No.998271 >>998250 The comics are pretty shitty. I suppose it might be funny if you were a creationist, but from everyone else's point of view it just looks dumb.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:17:13 2010 No.998273 >>998237 >>998260 Because most scientists believe they were warm-blooded.....

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:17:13 2010 No.998276 This guy is bad, but he isn't nearly as amusing as Jack Chick. I mean, at least he beats you over the head with it instead of simply just penning poor straw men and obvious ignorance.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:17:13 2010 No.998277 >>998271 I agree with this. And not just because of "hurr durr creationist", they just genuinely are not funny.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:18:13 2010 No.998280 >>998273 How would they have any fucking clue, from pieces of rock?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:18:13 2010 No.998281 I'm not exactly sure whether or not these are supposed to be ironic.

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>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:18:13 2010 No.998286 >>998278 >>Let me think of the dumbest possible comeback regarding an egg I can possibly think of.

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>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:19:13 2010 No.998292 >>998281 They're supposed to be "I'm right." They fall apart with the slightest bit of thought, which is why they're purely for preaching to the choir.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:21:13 2010 No.998303 Some of these even seem like they're making fun of creationists.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:21:13 2010 No.998309 >>998289 Instead of re theorising our incorrect ideas and slowly becoming more accurate, let's just cling to a REALLY wrong belief forever.

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>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:22:13 2010 No.998314 >>998303 That's because he's a terrible writer.

>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:23:13 2010 No.998316 >>998305 This is dumb. If god was really trying to save him he wouldn't have gotten into a car crash anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:23:13 2010 No.998317 >>998278 OH MY FUCKING GOD!!! IS THIS GUY SERIOUS!?!? I laughed so hard. Thanks whoever you are.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:23:13 2010 No.998319 >>998311 This one seems to be making fun of creationism...

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:23:13 2010 No.998320 >>998305 Why would the crash have happened in the first place...? That's why I can never understand why people have to thank some deity after any catastrophe. Particularly when they've lost everything to some disaster.

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>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:24:13 2010 No.998325 >>998311 I don't understand the point to this..

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:24:13 2010 No.998326 >>998318 This doesn't even make a point. Well, he probably thinks it does.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:24:13 2010 No.998328 >>998318 ..I laughed.

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:25:13 2010 No.998330 >>998325 The Creationist is getting angry because he thinks the show is all wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:25:13 2010 No.998332 File: 32 KB, 211x212, 1266375292280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is fucking.... wat?

>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:25:13 2010 No.998333 >>998318 Are they trying to secretly make fun of creationists without them knowing?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:25:13 2010 No.998334 >>998280 Physiology and prey suggest mammalian behavior, behavior that can only be supported by a warm-blooded metabolism.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:25:13 2010 No.998335 >>998318 What in jolly fuck is this? What point is it arguing? It seems like its 'observation' vs 'what it says in the bible'. Is this guy for real? or is he trollin?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:26:13 2010 No.998337 >>998280 Microscopic analysis has shown that the bones of some dinosaurs grew at a rate comparable to modern mammals, and have more features in common with the bones of mammals and birds than they do with the bones of modern-day reptiles.

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>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:26:13 2010 No.998341 >>998333 If he was, he would be the ultimate troll.

>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:26:13 2010 No.998342 >>998280 Size, structure of the bones. Environment where they lived.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:26:13 2010 No.998343 File: 5 KB, 300x300, 1271261234084.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I believe in god but creationists like this just make me angry. Sometimes I feel like they exist only to make me look bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:26:13 2010 No.998344 File: 125 KB, 468x240, 0055_02.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hi there guys, my name is Jack Chick

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:26:13 2010 No.998345 >>998280 Many dinosaur fossils have been found at high latitudes. Cold-blooded creatures are much more likely to evolve in warm regions, where they can use the environment to maintain their body temperatures.

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>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:27:13 2010 No.998354 >>998337 >and birds I believe there are more than a few theories that show the closest living relative to the dinosaurs are, in fact, birds.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:28:13 2010 No.998357 >>998280 The circulatory system of a Brachiosaurus could only be fueld by an endothermic metabolism.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:28:13 2010 No.998359 >>998345 But thos high lats were at one point, in the tropics. Antarctica was originally near the equator, according to science.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:28:13 2010 No.998360 File: 91 KB, 500x300, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998278 So I guess Noha also had high tech state of the art dinosaur egg incubators like the ones in Jurassic Park.

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>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:29:13 2010 No.998362 >>998345 Well, watch yourself. Do remember that the last dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago and the continents moved around considerably afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:29:13 2010 No.998363 http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/features/young-earth-evidence Retarded shit galore.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:29:13 2010 No.998364 >>998355 lol... I love how these artists use situations THEY created to prove a point. ATHEISTS ARE BELLIGERENT LOOK YOU CAN SEE IT IN THIS CARTOON I DREW

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:29:13 2010 No.998367 >>998357 How do we know this? The dino's might have been totally different.

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:30:13 2010 No.998369 >>998364 The best part is how Jack's comics have so much dialog and crazy artwork you can rewrite them and make awesome things.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:30:13 2010 No.998371 >>998357 >>998345 >>998337 >>998334 Had to post that in section because apparently some part of my post wasn't allowed to be posted. Ended up being the one about the Brachiosaurus circulatory system... Yeah, no idea what fetish moot has...

>>	снайпер Sat May 22 23:30:13 2010 No.998373 >>998354 more than a few theories? There's direct dna evidence, bro. It's basically confirmed that birds are descendants of theropods.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:30:13 2010 No.998375 >>998360 Sure, why not. Some creationists believe that people in the past were super-advanced beings with spaceships and hovercars and that they lived for centuries.

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>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:31:13 2010 No.998381 >>998370 >carbon 14 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:31:13 2010 No.998383 >>998373 We don't have dino DNA. So how can we prove a link?

Anonymous Sat May 22 23:31:13 2010 No.998384

>>998289

Why is this portrayed as a bad thing among creationists? Changing imperfect states of knowledge based on new data to constantly test and strain the consistency of ideas?

I guess that could seem outlandish to an individual to adheres to a belief that after a thousand years, and countless advances in knowledge, and technology has gone unchanged.

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:32:13 2010 No.998389 >>998373 Well yes, generally you need some sort of evidence for a hypothesis to become a theory...

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:32:13 2010 No.998391 >>998367 >How do we know this? >The dino's might have been totally different. Because it's physically impossible for a Brachiosaurus neck to be supported by a cold-blooded circulatory system. The demands on the heart would have been enormous enough.

>>	снайпер Sat May 22 23:32:13 2010 No.998394 >>998383 Because we actually do. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/04/070412-dino-tissues.html

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Anonymous Sat May 22 23:33:13 2010 No.998399

I was a scientist long time. But you know, this is same shit as religion is. And not the best religion - trust me. There are better religions - I am staunch. For example - Christianity. It provades you believe and hope. If you learn what really christianity is you will see - its much better.

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:33:13 2010 No.998400 >>998384 Because change is scary, and not knowing something makes them afraid. That's why they fill the gaps in their knowledge with God. They grow attached to the idea, stuff it into the minds of others, then vigorously defend it.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:33:13 2010 No.998402 These...these don't make any sense at all. What the fuck? Someone makes money for this drivel? And not even because it's pro-jegus, but they're just not even funny. I should be a cartoonist if it's that easy.

>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:33:13 2010 No.998403 >>998377 lolololololol

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:33:13 2010 No.998405 >>998397 Lulz, carbon 14 dating doesn't work for that Jack.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:34:13 2010 No.998406 >>998391 We don't know what methods life had to do things back then, because there are no fossilized organ systems discovered.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:34:13 2010 No.998409 File: 70 KB, 523x367, 1273789393631.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998399 LOLOL

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:35:13 2010 No.998412 File: 48 KB, 468x240, 0055_12.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998401 "Nearly all experts agree Lucy was just a 3 foot tall chimpanzee" You heard it here first folks

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:35:13 2010 No.998413 >>998394 That's impossible. DNA isn't stable enough to last 65 million years.

>>	снайпер Sat May 22 23:35:13 2010 No.998414 >>998402 You are an idiot if you think every cartoon needs to be funny.

Anonymous Sat May 22 23:36:13 2010 No.998423

>>998391

dinos were not warm blooded, and they were not cold blooded. they were a hybrid. sharks for example, can heat their blood when needed. I think dinos lived in a warmer, more oxygen rich earth, and were cold blooded some of the time, but when they needed to do something, they had a way to warm their blood up.

>>	снайпер Sat May 22 23:36:13 2010 No.998425 >>998413 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur#Soft_tissue_and_DNA

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Anonymous Sat May 22 23:36:13 2010 No.998427

>>998406
Oh, apologies, I thought you were asking a legitimate question before rather than implying they used some revolutionary circulatory system that didn't exist before or after them, or reemerge in any of the other various species. Despite that fact that this holds no evidence, I guess you can have fun pondering it, but that' as far as it's going to go.

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:36:13 2010 No.998430 >>998412 HAHAHAH Kent Hovind. He's so full of shit it isn't funny.

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>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:36:13 2010 No.998434 >>998423 That would make them warm blooded.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:37:13 2010 No.998437 >>998425 I don't give a shit what wikipedia says. Chemistry says that DNA isn't stable for that long.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:38:13 2010 No.998442 >>998437

>>	снайпер Sat May 22 23:39:13 2010 No.998447 >>998437 Quite bein' so irrational bro

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:39:13 2010 No.998449 >>998435 this seems pretty convincing.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:39:13 2010 No.998450 >>998377 Half of these don't even have anything to do with evolution.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:39:13 2010 No.998451 File: 63 KB, 468x240, 0055_17.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998448

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:40:13 2010 No.998458 >>998450 Jack isn't particular towards evolution, he just bashes everything perceived as "not christian"

>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:40:13 2010 No.998461 >>998437 Dude, how do you think we store DNA?

>>	‏ Sat May 22 23:40:13 2010 No.998465 >>998448 >>He thinks that muscles being present make it not vestigial

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:40:13 2010 No.998467 File: 28 KB, 512x384, 1270999076863.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998451 >Isn't losing something the opposite of evolution I lost here.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:41:13 2010 No.998468 File: 57 KB, 468x240, 0055_18.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998451 GLUONS DON'T EXIST

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:41:13 2010 No.998470 >>998449 His theory of seeing the past evolutions of a species through observing embryo development hasn't ever been treated as factual...

Anonymous Sat May 22 23:41:13 2010 No.998475

>>998447
Look son. Chemical compounds decompose.
All organic compounds change over the course of a few million years. DNA can not possibly stay intact for 65 million years, to any point where it can be used to link species. That's how chemistry works. Sorry biology.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:42:13 2010 No.998476 >>998451 wtf happened to the kids head in panel 2?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:42:13 2010 No.998478 File: 65 KB, 468x240, 0055_19.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998468 don't worry folks, it gets better. stay tuned

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:42:13 2010 No.998479 File: 23 KB, 557x314, 1274582462947.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998451 Right, because evolution only makes things better..

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:43:13 2010 No.998484 >>998434 >at would make them warm blooded. naw they were both warm and cold blooded. some parts of their body had to maintain a constant temperature, while others did not, like cold blooded creatures.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:43:13 2010 No.998485 >>998479 Evolution does only make things better. Losing something = more efficient = better.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:43:13 2010 No.998491 >>998461 Not for 65 million years. That's how. You have to keep it in a strict environment, else it deteriorates quickly.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:44:13 2010 No.998493 File: 15 KB, 222x203, 1270813634623.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998478 the kids is owning that old geezer!

Anonymous Sat May 22 23:44:13 2010 No.998494
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>>998478

There you go folks. Gluons don't exist. Jesus holds the atom together. Everything else that science has said about subatomic physics is 100% accurate, except for gluons because the atom is held together by jesus.

This is what Jack Chick believes.

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>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:45:13 2010 No.998509 >>998475 Rubbish. The only reason it degrades or breaks down is because it comes into contact with the atmosphere or other organisms destroy it. Freezing it or rocks could keep it around.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:47:13 2010 No.998524 >>998467 Actually he's right about that

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:47:13 2010 No.998525 >>998494 If gluons doesn't exist then why is there still particle physics?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:47:13 2010 No.998529 >>998494 Wait.. .so what does this balding, old, over weight (very biased image) teach? Chemistry, physics, evolution, biology, or what? This nice, young, attractive man has made me think otherwise.. (looks like fucking hitler youth lol)

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:47:13 2010 No.998533 >>998509 Rocks change radically over millions of years. And the rocks also have a habit of being alkaline in nature. The DNA itself, chemically, isn't stable enough to last 65 million years. Chemistry knows this as fact, because physics tells us.

Anonymous Sat May 22 23:47:13 2010 No.998534
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I just watch the end of Mr. Majoriums Wonder Emporium and I shit you not this is the conversation.

Natalie Portman "It's Magnets"
boy "How do they work?"
Natalie "Magic"

I fucking lol'd

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:48:13 2010 No.998536 >>998318 So wait he believes that the stars are far far away and he probably also believes in the limited speed of light .. well then.. OH WAIT, I forgot God put the light everywhere first dam-dam-dam

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:48:13 2010 No.998543 >>998524 No he is not. Evolution is adapting to your environment to become 'fitter' Losing something that is unnecessary makes the organism more efficient.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:48:13 2010 No.998546 >>998468 Gluons are a made up dream. No one has even seen or even measured them...they don't exist! It's a desperate theory to explain away truth! > Replace Gluons with god, then this comic could be on to something.

>>	Biofag Sat May 22 23:48:13 2010 No.998547 >>998484 You can't be warm and cold blooded. We can also gain warmth from the sun, does that mean we're cold blooded as well? If you can regulate your temperature you are warm blooded.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:49:13 2010 No.998548 >>998516 So Ghandi is in hell because he didn't believe in Christ as the Son of God. I'm Christian, but when others state Jesus is the ONLY way I get really upset.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:49:13 2010 No.998550 i dont get it, most of the cartoons take the piss out of science, but some of them take the piss out of creationism, either that or they are just really mis informed about some things

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:50:13 2010 No.998557 File: 19 KB, 300x309, RageFace.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is my face.

Anonymous Sat May 22 23:50:13 2010 No.998559

GUYS

HOLD UP

GUYS.

They say "Gluons done exist blah blah blah" and then say "Jesus holds atoms together"

How is that a better explanation? Assuming NO evidence for gluons, you just replaced the name gluons with Jesus....

Do these people really believe this nonsense?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:50:13 2010 No.998562 >>998548 How are you claims any more valid than theirs? If your God is real then the bible is probably more accurate than your idealism. Ghandi went to hell if your belief is true. Sorry bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:50:13 2010 No.998563 File: 1.85 MB, 244x212, 1274149971312.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998270 >billions and billions FFFFFFFFFFFF

erf Sat May 22 23:51:13 2010 No.998565

Hey /sci/ guys, this cartoons are funny!
The one whith StarWars made me lolled ^^

Even if the cartoons are not telling the true doesn't mean they are not funny.
The point is Scientists use the same approach as Believers do to explain theyre knowledge:
Scientists looks like Integrists sometimes (like the teacher in those cartoons).

Scientists can't prove Believers are wrong, and vis-versa.

(God is not necessary for my life, but it could be for others).

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:51:13 2010 No.998567 >>998270 Explain.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:51:13 2010 No.998568 >>998550 >or they are just really mis informed about some things You think?

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:52:13 2010 No.998570 File: 147 KB, 630x585, TMW022807.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright guys, time for some anti-rage

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:52:13 2010 No.998573 >>998559 That's why its in a rage thread..

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:52:13 2010 No.998574 >>998567 It's a play on how some people suggest that a figurative interpretation of bible passages can be made compatible with the scientific explanation of how the universe came to be. Instead of 6 days of creation, it's 13.7 billion years.

Biofag Sat May 22 23:54:13 2010 No.998580

>>998533

>DNA has been successfully isolated from both fossilized plant and animal tissues. The oldest material, dated as 25-40 million years old (Tertiary), was obtained from amber-entombed bees and termites. Tissues from both these insects yielded DNA of good quality, which could be amplified by the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) and subsequently sequenced, including the genes encoding 18S ribosomal RNA and 16S rRNA. We report here the extraction of DNA from a 120-135-million-year-old weevil (Nemonychidae, Coleoptera) found in Lebanese amber, PCR amplification of segments of the 18S rRNA gene and the internal transcribed spacer, and the corresponding nucleotide sequences of their 315- and 226-base-pair fragments, respectively. These sequences were used for preliminary phylogenetic analysis of the nemonychid's sequence with three extant coleopterans: Lecontellus pinicola (Nemonychidae), Hypera brunneipennis (Curculionidae) and the mealworm Tenebrio molitor (Tenebrionidae), and two extant dipterans: the fruitfly Drosophila melanogaster (Drosophilidae) and mosquito Aedes albopictus (Culicidae) for the purpose of ascertaining the origin of the extracted and amplified DNA. The results revealed that the PCR-amplified material is that of the extinct nemonychid weevil. This represents the oldest fossil DNA ever extracted and sequenced, extending by 80 million years the age of any previously reported DNA.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:55:13 2010 No.998583 File: 41 KB, 562x668, creationist.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:56:13 2010 No.998593 File: 1.67 MB, 2000x2000, 1249277725149.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998570 NOT HELPING

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:56:13 2010 No.998594 >>998580 So biology is totally ignoring the rules of physics and chemistry... Now you know why biology is considered a lesser science.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:57:13 2010 No.998595 File: 5 KB, 69x173, 1274586730725.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998570 me likey

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:57:13 2010 No.998596 File: 163 KB, 544x800, Comic.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	erf Sat May 22 23:57:13 2010 No.998598 >>998567 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_time_scale

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 23:59:13 2010 No.998605 tsk

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:00:13 2010 No.998611 >>998594 >facepalm.jpg

>>	Biofag Sun May 23 00:00:13 2010 No.998612 >>998594 >lol I troll you Why is it impossible?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:01:13 2010 No.998615 >>998594 So you are ignoring contradictory evidence? Wow, you're just like the strawman in the comic. Our knowledge can change.

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Anonymous Sun May 23 00:01:54 2010 No.998620 [DELETED]

>>998209

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:05:13 2010 No.998638 >>998267 sarcasm?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:05:13 2010 No.998642 >>998598 Hey serious question here not trying to troll anyone. The age of earth was approximated by radiometric dating. What exactly did they date? Couldn't it be possible that those materials already existed in space before earth was formed from it?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:05:13 2010 No.998643 >>998618 Wait are they advocating alchemy?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:06:13 2010 No.998644 File: 55 KB, 576x416, 1270821680295.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998642 ...touche

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:06:13 2010 No.998647 >>998636 I lost, hard. Should be illegal to be this fucktarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:06:13 2010 No.998650 File: 34 KB, 612x468, Turtle Takes A Crap.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >CREATIONISM!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:07:13 2010 No.998651 http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/04/07/creation-science-cartoon/ WATCH THIS SHIT

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:08:13 2010 No.998657 >>998642 They're dating fossilized single celled organisms.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:09:13 2010 No.998662 File: 127 KB, 600x600, bfw_374.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998647 >>998647 >>998647 Uh, actually that's 100% correct

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:11:13 2010 No.998667 >>998647 One of us doesn't get the joke. I thought it criticized the bible because it is changed all the time, to make people agree

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:12:13 2010 No.998674 >>998647 I don't think you understood that one if you're angry about it...

>>	Biofag Sun May 23 00:12:13 2010 No.998678 >>998642 Meteorites I think. It is possible, they would have thought of that while doing the experiments. But the earth and everything else in this solar system formed from a nebula, which means it all has roughly the same age.

Anonymous Sun May 23 00:12:54 2010 No.998676 [DELETED]

>>998210

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>>	erf Sun May 23 00:13:13 2010 No.998679 >>998642 Like fallen-asteroid and rocks?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:15:13 2010 No.998695 >>998674 Maybe. I thought it was saying how theories never get modified, while god's perfect word constantly gets modified by the fallible humans. But maybe I could be fucktarded. Oh well. :)

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:20:13 2010 No.998710 File: 533 KB, 500x4284, 1273644984203.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I only one who always confused by rage thread ? Because for some reason, in my deepest part, I want to believe that all of creationist bullshit is just satire.

>>	erf Sun May 23 00:22:13 2010 No.998719 >>998710 I feel the same. We're too optimistic I think (it's a guess). ^.-

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:22:13 2010 No.998721 >>998710 So do I, but I'm always saddened by the fact that it's not.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:24:13 2010 No.998724 >>998702 >bombardier beetle argument what's that about? never heard that one.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:25:13 2010 No.998726 File: 24 KB, 640x480, Futurama_Fry_Looking_Squint.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>998710 >suddenly, jpg compression

Anonymous Sun May 23 00:26:13 2010 No.998728

Honestly I do not show any interest in others as long as they give me my funds. If I have to say I believe in god, I would in a heartbeat if it meant I could get funding.

You all expect too much. more than half the world is like this. Just get used to it and find a way to not get sucked in but find a way to exploit their ignorance.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:26:13 2010 No.998732 >>998643 >earth fire air water I think they just watch too much captain planet.

>>	Naked !snakelCo7o Sun May 23 00:29:13 2010 No.998740 >>998724 Creationists cite the Bombarier Beetle as proof against evolution, because it's ability to shoot liquid hot chemicals is irreducibly complex. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUvLR2yyWuE

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:29:13 2010 No.998742 >>998724 micheal behe outlined it in darwins black box It shoots chemicaly heated juices out its abdomen pretty cool bug

Anonymous Sun May 23 00:31:13 2010 No.998748

>>998657

Naw I think thats only evidence of how long life existed on earth.

>>998679
>>998678

Right.. I remember something like that.
But wouldn't that mean they've dated the meteroit (which might have an entirely different time of formation) and not earth.

Anyway, I have begun reading some articles on this. It seems I need to know more about the process of radiometric dating and lead isotopes to find the answer to my question. Well, I'm off to bed.
Thanks for the answers though.

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 00:55:13 2010 No.998856 >>998748 It wouldn't matter If they dated a meteorite. They would just say whoops and point the device at THE EARTH. Are you implying that the earth is mainly meteorite and that there's a chance of error?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 01:11:13 2010 No.998941 >>998281 Poe's Law in action.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 01:20:13 2010 No.998982 >>998748 The sun and solar system formed at the same time. The date of a meteorite would be the same as the solar system and the formation of earth.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 01:45:13 2010 No.999082 >>998211 http://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/kitzmiller/kitzmiller_342.pdf Game over.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 01:52:13 2010 No.999095 >>998618 Oh god, what a masterpiece of trolling!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 23 01:56:13 2010 No.999107 I'm raging

Anonymous Sun May 23 02:04:13 2010 No.999114

reading those comics left me really confused not about themselves but the reaction of people toward them

some of them really made the creationists look very stupid and others don't make any sense in matter of comedy and argumentation

I mean anyone that is not a raging creationist would at least think it is silly

goddamn it Poe's law is an empirical proven law

Anonymous Sun May 23 02:25:13 2010 No.999277
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>>999082
>In summary, the disclaimer singles out the theory of evolution for special treatment, misrepresents its status in the scientific community, causes students to doubt its validity without scientific justification, presents students with a religious alternative masquerading as a scientific theory, directs them to consult a creationist text as though it were a science resource, and instructs students to forego scientific inquiry in the public school classroom and instead to seek out religious instruction elsewhere.

I think I came.

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