/engi/ - Engineering General

[Anonymous No.9971549]

Another thread for engineers and applied scientists/mathematicians.

Thread topic: Which mid-level course do you think every engineer should take, regardless of discipline?

[Anonymous No.9971594]

>>9971549
Whichever class that teaches you how to write properly. I easily spend half of my day writing

Alternatively, some mid-level code monkey course, everyone needs to know that shit

[Anonymous No.9971611]

>>9971549
I very much find electronic engineering boring and would prefer math, but seeing as I might not have a choice,

Can any electronic/electrical engineers tell me what they like about their studies, what are some fun facts to know and what interests them. I need to see the postive side to this major.

[Anonymous No.9971615]

>>9971549
Statistics, easily is the most important and useful

[Anonymous No.9971621]

threadly reminder to utilize the shit out of your colleges machine shop. once you graduate and move, you are going to miss having all that expensive equipment to play with.

[Anonymous No.9971623]

>>9971615
this + getting some more numerical calculus

[Anonymous No.9971626]

>>9971623
Also I might add What >>9971594
said and parametric design, that I find very important

[Anonymous No.9971783]

i was a civil engineer for a couple of years but then i started a farm five years ago and have never been happier with my life.

too bad i'm still paying that student loan though.

[Anonymous No.9971840]

>>9971549
kill yourself calling yourself an engineer and your thread "for engineers". You are all fucking students

[Anonymous No.9971966]

>>9971840
This. There's too many students handing out career """"advice"""" who have no idea what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.9972500]

>>9971783

>i was a civil engineer for a couple of years but then i started a farm five years ago and have never been happier with my life.

I'm happy doing civil engineering work, but I'm doing construction administration for a project right now and it fucking sucks. The owner's rep is a needling dick, the contractor is a solid combination of stupid and lazy, and I'm stuck right now trying to piece together the closeout documentation from half-assed reports and submittals while both sides are up my ass about getting finished before the completion deadline. I'm out of budget, the owner has asked for so much shit out of scope, and we just landed two design-build projects that need my undivided attention very badly.

I just want to get out of this project without getting fired or dragged into court and go back to my previous life of producing design plans and planning reports, /sci/. It was busy and not without its share of problems but at least I wasn't staying awake at night or skipping meals over anxiety like I have for almost two years now.

[Anonymous No.9972524]

Who here is doing FSAE?

[Anonymous No.9972526]

>>9971783
Living the dream desu

[Anonymous No.9972531]

Threadly reminder that mechanical engineering as a field grows by 1k jobs each year but there are 25k fresh graduates every year to fill those positions.

[Anonymous No.9972533]

>engineering general
>specifies a topic

[Anonymous No.9972669]

How am I supposed to negotiate salary? I'm a contractor making $84k right now and the company I'm contracting for is offering to hire me directly. I don't really know how much they're going to offer or how much of a raise I should expect.

[Anonymous No.9972685]

>>9972669
When you go from contractor to direct hire, expect to keep your base salary fixed but with a heavy increase in benefits, work-life balance, and bonuses. Ask about those first, if they give you shrugs then highball the fuck out of them (%30+ raise) because they are just trying to get you to do more for the same.

[Anonymous No.9972690]

do most engineering jobs require drug tests? How about interns?

[Anonymous No.9972694]

>>9972531
Source? What about EEs?

[Anonymous No.9972891]

>>9972690
>do most engineering jobs require drug tests?
not usually no. its one of the perks of the job.

[Anonymous No.9972901]

>>9972669
>>9972685
Expect to keep making the same overall, so expect a salary minus the health insurance and any other benefits.

>>9972690
Just a piss test when you get hired

[Anonymous No.9972971]

>>9972901
I already get insurance and 401k match and stuff, but the company's benefits are definitely better. I know for sure my base pay is going up at least a bit, but I'm not sure how much.

>>9972690
It depends. As an intern and then a contractor I just had to do a piss test before starting. Employees get random piss tests a couple of times a year so the on-site nurse can have something to do. Some companies with a stick up their ass (Exxon) do hair testing.

[Anonymous No.9973035]

>university finally releases my diploma after my defense back in May
>for merely $5 a "certified" digital version of the diploma can be ordered to commemorate my endeavor of wasting 5 years of my life
Good thing I opted to buy a color laser printer when my old inkjet printer died. Now I can print high quality copies of the diploma to take pictures of it in trash, toilet, etc. instead of having to pay $30 for a physical copy.

[Anonymous No.9973047]

>>9973035
>PhD in engineering
What drives people to do this?

[Anonymous No.9973054]

>>9973047
Getting calls back only from third party recruiters when I finished my undergrad. Those were temporary positions that paid ~40k/year in Chicagoland area, so the cost of living is not low. I had similar pay in grad school, and there are small tax breaks since you don't pay into SS and Medicare as a grad student.

Not like I came out ahead, though. I've only had one call back since May. I would have most likely got the position I was applying for back in May, but the hiring manager dicked me around for a position that wasn't even approved yet, and of course it didn't get approved.

[Anonymous No.9973077]

>>9973054
Kimochi warui, onii-chan

[Anonymous No.9973292]

>>9973077
I'm planning to get a motorcycle soon, so it'll be all right.

[Anonymous No.9973731]

>>9973054
I'd take the 40k/y job. You'll be able to find a job that pays twice that after a couple years. That's a very common career path but some people completely give up if they're not making big bucks right out of school with no work experience.

[Miniature Spacecraft No.9973789]

>>9971549
That's a comfy picture

[Anonymous No.9973914]

>>9973731
Those were CAD monkey positions. I learned AutoCAD in high school, so it seemed like a waste. Again, not like I came out better this way, but I made the choice which I thought was better at the time.

[Anonymous No.9974023]

>>9973035
>pays tens of thousands for education
>after that the university has the guts to ask $30 for the physical dipolma, and $5 for a fucking pdf
The us is such a strange place, the more I learn about it, the less I feel shit in my second world shithole

[Anonymous No.9974322]

Is mechatronics a meme degree? Should I get into mechanical engineering, considering that I want to work with robotics and dynamic systems?

[Anonymous No.9974329]

>>9973047
becoming a uni professor

[Anonymous No.9974347]

>>9974322

Mechatronics is all about modeling systems and robotics, at least it was in my (second-tier) EU uni.

Mechanical engineering is more shadenfreunde - it doesn't let you believe that's after uni you will be doing interesting stuff, you know from around 3rd year that you will be glorified production worker with more responsibility and less money than CNC operators, so it's more market-realistic.

t. Msc Eng. after ABET-certified Mechatronic Engineering

[Anonymous No.9974352]

>>9974322
Just do ME with an EE minor (or the other way around), my nigger

[Anonymous No.9974503]

>>9971611
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.9974526]

>>9974023
Yeah it's pretty gross desu. Just include the cost of the degree in tuition, for christsakes.
But since all good US institutions match financial need and second worlders pay for their education in taxes, it's all sort of a wash in the end.

[Anonymous No.9974811]

Just graduated with a computer science meme degree, but I've been wanting to become an engineer as a career since my 2nd year uni. Right now i'm saving up money for school again (no debt from my compsci degree). Right now I'm taking on introductory free courses and giving myself a refresher on chemistry, materials science, and calculus. From the thread I'm guessing statistics would help, I took it in uni in my 2nd year but I just barely passed. What other classes would you recommend for a civil -or- mechanical engineer? I'm still not sure which, I just want to build bridges man.

[Anonymous No.9974868]

>>9974023
>eurocucks actually have to pay to use the bathroom

[Anonymous No.9974871]

>>9974347
>you know from around 3rd year that you will be glorified production worker with more responsibility and less money than CNC operators
Fuck this hits too close to home

[Anonymous No.9974929]

>>9974811
Stats, linear alg, numerical methods/analysis

[Anonymous No.9974958]

>>9974871

I'm sorry. Even worse is that I haven't yet found escape from this nightmare. For now I can only see 2 options: go disgustingly posh like physicists, get PhD, have part-time in some research institute and generally go full academia and suffer with horrible people and students for the rest of hour life.

The other option is to go consultancy as external and luck-out or worry for years if you will get next $$$ job or you will have to go for next half a year without income.

[Anonymous No.9974960]

>>9974811
Idk man, I'd investigate into just doing a Master's instead of getting a second Bachelor's. Sure, they'd make you take some undergrad courses first, but it'll probably be shorter overall and more useful to you. The big problem would be getting a PE license, if you want to work in a field that requires one.

[Anonymous No.9974963]

I'm considering doing a master's in mechanical engineering, studying fluid mechanics.

Any advices lads? I will probably have to pay for it myself while working full-time. Would I be better off going full-time to school and getting an assistantship?

[Anonymous No.9974985]

>>9974929
thanks, friend
>>9974960
It's cheaper in the long run for me to get a 2nd BA and pursue a masters in that, i'm going over to EU to pick it up, and I've already planned my pocketbook for it. I already have a foot-in with the field I want to be in, and I'd require a PE license for the position I'm wanting.

[Anonymous No.9975003]

>>9974963
>I will probably have to pay for it myself while working full-time
Why not try to find an employer that isn't a complete cheapskate and will pay for your Master's.

t. Engineer getting a Master's for free via tuition reimbursement

[Anonymous No.9975014]

>>9975003
this. Find a good job that will assist in the payment. It takes a while and proof of commitment though.

[Anonymous No.9975191]

How do I become better at calculus? I'm not very good in general math

[Anonymous No.9975205]

>>9975191
realize it's just operators like addition and subtraction that have more meaning associated with them

[Anonymous No.9975232]

>>9974811
>has the most employable STEM dregree
>wants to go back to get a degree in one of two most over saturated engineering majors
are you retarded, per chance?

[Anonymous No.9975235]

>>9975191
Do problems

[Anonymous No.9975265]

>>9975232
>Computer science is the most employable and totally not oversaturated

Ask yourself that question

[Anonymous No.9975276]

>>9975265
go right ahead and waste another 2-3 years of your life only to regret it as soon as you're done.

[Anonymous No.9975303]

>>9975276
I'm already working in a field that requires me to have an engineering degree for the spots I want, it's not as if I'm going at it blindly. Going to uni isn't a waste of time anyway, especially when we're still young. If you consider uni for a degree a waste of time, your interests are pretty backwards mate. The projections of computer science are flawed, just find the personal experiences of computer science graduates online and you'll find some steep issues to get over. People aren't hiring CompSci graduates because they're too stupid and nearly all of the job openings don't demand a degree nor a certificate, but rather actual experience. Engineering on the other hand, the spots do require a degree, certs, and your stamp.

While BLS says that there's a projected 500k job openings, fuck off because they're going to be outsourced with pajeets or actually experienced people, not graduates.

If Uni is a waste of time, CompSci is more of a waste than engineering is.

[Anonymous No.9975307]

>>9974811
There are three mech eng books by JP Den Hartog that are fantastic appetizers. Mechanics, Statics, and Mechanical Vibrations.

Get those and a heat transfer and thermo text and you’ve covered pretty much the entirety of undergrad mech E. Machine design is very pluggy chuggy and the rest is just expounding on the core topics I’ve already mentioned.

[Anonymous No.9975309]

>>9975307
*Strength Of Materials not Mechanics

[Anonymous No.9975355]

>>9975205
I feel like a kid that just got the duck-witch image for the first time.

[Anonymous No.9975382]

>>9975276
so engineering is also totally fine as long as you're sure you're above average

[Anonymous No.9975409]

>>9971840

Shhh.... That's why some of us come here.
You're ruining the fun.

[Anonymous No.9975414]

>>9974347

This only applies to those ME's that cannot hack it in R&D.

(Which is most.)

Nerds from the front row need not apply.

>You all know who you are.

[Anonymous No.9975418]

Rate my semester /eng/

>Electronic and Analog Circuits
>Power Conversion and Electric Systems
>Signals and Systems I
>Electrical Engineering Lab
>Introduction to Data Mining
>Introduction to Transhumanism: Ethical Perspectives on the Future of Humanity (humanities elective)
>Elementary French (humanities elective)

Also I want to get into a driverless cars project that some professor is doing, but formally you need Signals and Systems II. Should I try to get into it anyways?

[Anonymous No.9975422]

>>9975418
why so many classes? is that over whats considered full time?

[Anonymous No.9975426]

>>997542
Yes, the humanities electives are like half a full course in terms of course load, so it's really an extra class over full time in total. Thinking on dumping both of them t-bh.

[Anonymous No.9975430]

>>9975426
Meant for >>9975422

[Anonymous No.9975442]

>>9975426
unless your GPA is perfect, don't be loading on classes. slow down nigga.

[Anonymous No.9975447]

>>9975442
Yeah, I guess you're right my man. I'm ditching those humanities classes. Thanks, I actually needed someone to give me this one piece of advice.

[Anonymous No.9975453]

>>9975447
i put off all my humanities stuff till the very end and i was glad i did. my last semester was chill and i just focused on getting a job.

[Anonymous No.9975463]

>>9971611

I was in the same shoes. I didn't really like EE, I just liked some of the math involved. I hated my internship even more. From the EE classes I took, signals and control systems were the only ones I enjoyed because they had a lot of math with not much circuits involved. After that, I switched to math. I'm now a grad student doing research/teaching and I enjoy it a hell of a lot more than being an electrical engineering intern.

[Anonymous No.9975465]

A microcontroller and or fpga class. You can make anything digital.

[Anonymous No.9975467]

>>9974503
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.9975470]

>>9975463
>I switched to math
you switched majors completely?

[Anonymous No.9975491]

>>9975303
>let's ignore actual stats and look at some anecdotes and grievances of complete morons that can't get hired in a field where they'll take virtually anyone with a pulse and the right degree
lmao

i consider getting multiple degrees on the same level a waste of time, which i'm sure any sane person would. instead of getting a masters degree, if you absolutely need an engineering degree, you're wasting your time on another bachelors like a moron. do as you please though, no skin off my back. make sure to come back when you're done. i'll be dying to hear how it was totally worth it.

>>9975382
that's cute, but that's not what gets you a job.

[Anonymous No.9975502]

>>9975491
fairly certain that if you want to get a PE you have to have the BS in engineering. the stamp is worth it if you have the opportunity to work underneath other PE's and get the experience required to sit the exam.

[Anonymous No.9975540]

>>9975470

Yes sir.

[Anonymous No.9975753]

My uni's mechatronical engineering courses are a disorganized mess but pursuing a mechanical engineering degree seems to bland

[Anonymous No.9975779]

>>9974526
>second worlders pay for their education in taxes,
Still, it's not that bad, it's just a small proportion of it desu, there is alkt more bullshit in my taxes that I much rather didn't pay.

>>9974868
?

[Anonymous No.9975792]

>>9975276
Most of those jobs are either webshit or crud slave, both of witch are extremely soul crashing if done for more thab 5 years
Interesting jobs are quite rare
With cs and engineering degrees, anon would be qualified for lots of modeling work

[Anonymous No.9976153]

>>9975540
How?

[Anonymous No.9976174]

>>9975463
>I'm now a grad student doing research/teaching and I enjoy it a hell of a lot more than being an electrical engineering intern.

How did you get in? I'm a chemical engineer trying to get in to applied math (mostly because the city I'm applying at doesn't have engineering at the university).

I have a few publications in the the field and in a pure math journal, but I have a feeling they won't accept me without a more formal math background.

[Anonymous No.9976250]

Mechanical Engineers. Like Civil Engineers only their shit moves some times. Sounds so interesting. Much more than fucking lazers and magnets and plasma and electron mirrors.

[Anonymous No.9976365]

>>9975753
It’s only as bland as your imagination.

[Anonymous No.9976381]

>>9976250
Lol shut up nerd. We see you, all hunched over your little PCB. Fucking YAWN. Meanwhile, me and my bros are ripping around campus in our bitchin’ Go-Kart.

[Anonymous No.9976402]

>>9971549

forget mid-level

you should start with social skills 101

[Anonymous No.9976993]

>>9976381
Our bros hooked up an atv to drive around autonomously. We also have a literal rocket engine just sitting in the corner of our workshop.

[Anonymous No.9977028]

>>9976153
Not him, but why would it be an ordeal? You'd just go to your advisor and tell them you want to change majors.

[Anonymous No.9977090]

>>9975303
this guy is the only one in here who isnt a cunt and understands. CompSci is about as meme as it gets.

[Anonymous No.9977122]

New to EE and I really interested in radio frequency and microwaves and might do it as a concentration instead of control systems. What are some projects I can do and materials to consume to get started with this.

[Anonymous No.9977123]

>>9975502
>A bachelor’s or master’s degree in engineering from a program accredited by the Engineering Accreditation Commission (EAC) of ABET
https://ncees.org/engineering/engineering-licensure/international-engineering/

there literally is no benefit to getting the bachelors over a masters since you already have a STEM degree. you'll want to get a masters down the line anyway. the most useful courses you take as an engineer are the math/numerical and introductory courses anyway. you will likely never see the more advanced stuff you learned because it's all handled by simulation software now.

[Anonymous No.9977124]

>>9976993
How's Dr. Bi?

[Anonymous No.9977381]

>>9977124
The fuck you talking about?

[Anonymous No.9977546]

What class would be easier intro to mathmatical reasoning or elementary modern algebra (both 300 levels? I need to take one to get a math minor.

[Anonymous No.9977586]

>>9977122
make sure your vector calc is up to scratch, some background reading in EM theory and diffy qs won't hurt. pro EM sim software is rarely available to undergrad students so you're probably going to end up making do with matlab.
also, pozar microwave engineering is a good intro book

[Anonymous No.9977589]

How long until future Engi majors end up like this
>>9976192

[Anonymous No.9977593]

>>9977381
Did we go to the same campus? You're in the new building by AMTEC, right?

[Anonymous No.9977601]

>>9977593
Nigga just tell me what the campus is. How the fuck should I know who built the buildings.

[Anonymous No.9977700]

Hey ME guys is there a list of books you could recommend me so I can get the full experience of a the program. Im an EE undergrad, but I want to get in good with the ME facilities + garner knowledge for myself.

[Anonymous No.9978498]

You nibbas think its worth it to turbo load (20 credits) in a semester to ensure graduation in 4 years? I really dont want to go back to school for another year senpai. It's torture. EE major btw

[Anonymous No.9978513]

>>9978498
>think its worth it to turbo load (20 credits) in a semester to ensure graduation in 4 years?

No and adhering to that arbitrary time line is fallacious. Unless you are crazy smart and are going to ace all your classes you are better off taking your time to baby your GPA and look for a job/internship. If you think college is a drag, just wait till you get out into the job market, you are going to pray for the carefree days of undergrad. This is exactly how retards end up jumping into masters programs in order to avoid gaps in work history, they burn through undergrad making zero connections and getting no internships. Take a summer abroad, do a co-op, literally anything besides more course work will be better for your career. nobody cares if you graduated in 6 years over 4 years, its trivial in the context of a +40 year career.

[Anonymous No.9978515]

Why do we need 50 different names for gain in op amps?

[Anonymous No.9978541]

>>9977700
pic related and then any thermo text. Borgnakke is what i used.

[Anonymous No.9978565]

>>9978513
Ok but my GPA is already kinda poor (~2.8) and I am not too fond of staying in school for an extra year. Also I am not too well off financially

[Anonymous No.9978574]

>>9973035
Your last name means “Sucks” in my language....

Michael Sucks

[Anonymous No.9978576]

>>9978498
Nobody gives a shit how long it takes you to graduate, but tanking your GPA by overloading yourself is going to hurt you.

>>9978565
If you've already failed classes to get you into this situation where you're behind and have a low GPA, then what makes you think that you'll do well if you take even more classes? Unless something has actually changed and you're going to really get your shit together this time, don't do it. How far into your degree are you, and have you had any luck networking and getting internships and stuff? If you're going to go broke graduating with a shit GPA and no hopes of getting hired you may want to consider cutting your losses and majoring in business or something.

[Anonymous No.9978600]

>>9978576
It's not a matter of what people think of me academically. Looking at it from an opportunity cost perspective I'd much rather grind it my last year with a retard GPA and try to scrounge up any relatable job to get a salary and work experience then to wait another year, spend another semester of tuition just to be in a very similar boat anyway. I failed a Calc 3 class my sophomore year because I had very poor study skills and was a slacker. I'm a much more proficient and mature student in my current 4th year. Last year I had an internship for 9 months.

[Anonymous No.9978601]

>>9978565
>I am not too fond of staying in school for an extra year. Also I am not too well off financially

should have thought about that before you let yourself slide into a 2.8 GPA. you are going to be even less fond of having student loans come due with no job. honestly, i would just take a semester off and work to get your finances in order and re-prioritize. trying to white knuckle a 20 credit semester when you are already hanging on by a thread is the act of a desperate man. just fucking walk away from it for a bit before your engineering career is a smoldering crater.

[Anonymous No.9978692]

>>9977586
>pozar microwave engineering
Thanks anon, downloading PDF right now. Are there any tools I shoud know how to use or simple projects?

[Anonymous No.9978715]

>>9977028
That's not allowed in my country :(
You choose major and you're stuck there or apply the next year and do the enrollment exam again

[Anonymous No.9978717]

>>9971611
>>9975463
Literally me wtf, I switched to math last year after finding my core engineering classes to be mundane as fuck.

[Anonymous No.9979084]

Outside of engineering what's the next best paying job? Preferably something that doesn't require Cal 2

[Anonymous No.9979089]

>>9979084
Professional Akko-fucker

[Anonymous No.9979320]

>>9979084
sounds like you should get one of them (((((engineering technology))))) degrees

[Anonymous No.9980040]

>>9979089
I wish I could get a job in this
>>9979320
>engineering technology
What's this exactly

[Anonymous No.9980085]

>>9980040
It’s retard technician shit. Perfect for brainlets.

[Anonymous No.9980093]

I fucking hate EE so much, I wish I just did something piss easy like CS or accounting.
>>9977028
We're locked into our majors when we finish 3rd year.

[Anonymous No.9980148]

I've just failed 3 units and I'm set to withdraw from Thermodynamics.
How do I get better at studying?
How do people handle 4 heavy units when I can barely handle 3?
Am I not cut out to be a Mech engineer?
I just feel like I've completely doomed my next 60yrs in a few weak willed months.

[Anonymous No.9980208]

>>9971549
Every engineer should take linear algebra, programming, and numerical methods. You would not believe how important linear algebra is. Programming and taking advantage of the vast amount of computing power at your fingertips more so than a CAD monkey is pretty important.
>>9974322
Mechatronics is a meme degree, stick to mech e with a mechatronics focus.

[Anonymous No.9980225]

Should I take more math for my elective? (mech E). The description is:
>Topics include non-dimensionalization, elementary asymptotics and perturbation theory, Reynold's transport theorem and extensions of Leibnitz's rule, as applied to continuum conservation equations, Hamiltonian formulations, Legendre and Laplace transforms, special functions and their orthogonality properties.

Seems applicable, but I'm not sure if it really matters all that much at an undergrad level. My other options would be a class about sustainable energy and the finances and viability of it, and a soft machines robotics class, which is all about the blooming field of this stuff and its applications. Both seem neat, like all the professors in all three classes.

[Anonymous No.9980255]

>>9980225
Always take the math class.

[Anonymous No.9980280]

>>9980148
I did chemical and not mechanical, but thermo 1 was the class I struggled in the most in college. Looking back the material wasn't really super hard, but the class was the first one that required a shift in mindset which was what I struggled with.

My best advice would be to read the fucking textbook, as obvious as that seems. I don't know which one you're using and I don't know if it's any good or if any good thermo textbooks even exist, we used Smith Van Ness and Abbot and I hated it but you've still got to read the damn thing. You can watch videos or join a study group or do lots of practice problems or take really good lecture notes or whatever but all of those are just supplemental to studying the book.

And also, thermo is totally unintuitive. Lots of times you're just going to have to take the laws and equations and correlations and things that you know and just do the math and see where it takes you even if the process or the answer doesn't feel like it's right.

[Anonymous No.9980291]

>spend a year getting a new program off the ground
>good job anon, here’s a promotion
>run the program for a year, bretty gud
>budget cuts
>dismantle the program I implemented and save a bunch of money
>good job again anon, here’s another promotion!

Welp

[Anonymous No.9980303]

>>9980280
yeah, I've noticed that studying thermo isn't like any other engineering or math unit I've ever done and I only got the text book in wk 3. I'll just have to study the entire thing over the semester break then power through the unit next time,

[Anonymous No.9980410]

>>9980280
>>9980303
Other anon is right, but don't be afraid to talk to your professor early. Sometimes a mindset change is helpful. Personally, I got a D in thermo the first time around, but got a B the second time and an A in thermo II.

[Anonymous No.9980819]

How are my fellow electrical engineers doing?

[Anonymous No.9980833]

>>9980819
depressed and full of self-loathing

[Anonymous No.9980855]

>>9980833
Same

[Anonymous No.9981033]

>>9980833
>>9980855
dubs of truth

[Anonymous No.9981040]

>>9971783
Are you the mathfag farm dude?
Patrician life anyway

[Anonymous No.9981048]

>>9974322
>tfw mechatronics/cs double major
Find a more meme degree.
Protip: you can't.

[Anonymous No.9981164]

>>9971549
He should always take math.

:'(

Sad Mathfu Thread?

[Anonymous No.9981274]

>>9978601
Made the decision to take it easy and take 2 classes next fall. This is def the right move. Gonna just baby my GPA as much as possible and gonna try to get another internship and maybe get involved with research

[Anonymous No.9981386]

>>9980280
how is thermo different?

[Anonymous No.9982747]

>>9977589
come the physics revolution

[Anonymous No.9982753]

architecture community college dropout
they didn't have us do labs so I stopped going
I've read up thru finite element analysis and every topic of arch e

[Anonymous No.9982966]

>regretting not majoring in compsci
anyone else have this feel?

[Anonymous No.9983292]

>>9982966
kinda. i'm mostly just jealous of the salary and growth.

[Anonymous No.9983533]

>>9980085
What makes technician stuff for brainlets? Working with tools and equipment is now a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.9983540]

>>9983533
>associating blue collar work with lower intelligence
>you react like you were born yesterday

[Anonymous No.9983548]

>>9982966
Absolutely. I went into Engineering with the naive idea that I was going to solve complex problems that required an understanding of Math and Physics and didn't want to end up as a code monkey like 99.9% of cs majors, but now I'm just an underpaid CAD monkey anyway.

Fuck engineering.

[Anonymous No.9983551]

>>9983533
>shit pay
>shit hours
>shit working conditions
>shit career growth
>shit job security
>shit coworkers
>now with the added requirement of a college degree and student debt
But bro working with your hands is such an honest way to make a living!!!11!!oneone

[Anonymous No.9983555]

>>9982966
>>9983548
what about physics?

[Anonymous No.9983567]

>>9971611
>EE is hard and boring
EE is fucking amazing. I own over 10k worth of random broken electronics and tools.
Random electronics, a soldering iron, an oscilloscope, and calculator = fun

>>9971783
>>9972500
>t. pipe fitters

[Anonymous No.9983569]

>>9974352
>ME
>highly competitive job, as the other anon said, 25k grads vs 1k new jobs
>not fun to do as hobby
EE master race

[Anonymous No.9983570]

>>9982966
If you're here for money and positions you're doing it for the wrong reason. Go to CS if you want a easy time

[Anonymous No.9983572]

>>9977546
>piss poor grammar
>asking for >>>/adv/
underage
gerrout

[Anonymous No.9983574]

>>9980833
build radios
10 half-broken homemade radios are equivalent to 1 waifu

[Anonymous No.9983610]

>>9983540
Doesn't answer the question
>>9983551
Nobody said anything about it being an "honest way to make a living", or made the argument that having a non- technician position is somehow a "dishonest" way. Sources for what you're saying though? Honestly curious what issues many on /sci/ think or know about positions outside of an office

[Anonymous No.9983713]

>>9971549
>another thread for....applied scientists.
thank you for including me anons. everyone in the chem lab makes fun of me for not doing pure organometallics, but I think designing battery components is way more interesting.

[Anonymous No.9983736]

>>9983610
Your original question is actually complicated because they're many paths you can take. Probably the most common, option people in your situation are business degrees. They more up your alley if you are not interested in mid-high level mathematics. So obviously a board like this will shame and ridicule them as they attract brainlets.

Just look at bls occupational handbook and look at salaries for various professions etc. Look at job growth and whatever.

>>9983533
Its not a brainlet occupation compared to all human jobs ever created. Its a brainlet occupation relative to engineering occupations (the only occupations autists on /sci/ really care about). Hence, why you will find people on here that will shit on it, like they will most other professions.

[Anonymous No.9984622]

>>9983569
>grug rock engineer
>grug only do rock engineering

[Anonymous No.9984703]

Can I get into engineering without going to Uni?

[Anonymous No.9984733]

is mechE dead ? I mean every time someone says he is a mechE he is either unemployed or having a shitty job doing boring stuff and no advantages like paid travels, nice insurance etc while the compSci/SE guys are employed everywhere they go get to work at google,apple,amazon,banks,defence, aerospace etc seems mechE is dead for me even in a creative perspective what you do is a shitty optimisation or redisign of this or that component seems like a job i would quickly get numb bored doing and hate while in compSci your limit is your imagination and good compSci students are usually knowing of the latest advances in maths,tech etc EE is also a nice field, civil is just like mechE no creativity needed just redesign.Unless a major find in physics comes by mechE is doomed to fall into perdition. For me engineering is about solving complex problems every day but and the field that represents this the most is SE plus most SE worth their shit start at $80k+ and can go to $150k easily without bonuses while for a mechE it's really hard to get $40k+ starting , jobs are scarce etc and you top at $80k with about 10 yrs of experience

[Anonymous No.9984745]

>>9971549
What's a good job to get for people who are too stupid to get into engineering? I was going to be a mechanical engineer but the calculus and physics was kicking my ass so I switched to accounting instead?

[Anonymous No.9984844]

>>9984703
Technically, yes. Practically, no.

[Anonymous No.9984858]

In my 3rd year of ME right now and I've been considering just going for my masters.
Is there any real use for a masters though? I've already got a math and physics minor and I'm planning on working on satellites and modules to be sent into orbit.

[Anonymous No.9984937]

>>9984745
Why don't you go for a technician's degree?

[Anonymous No.9985351]

>>9984858
>I'm planning on working on satellites and modules to be sent into orbit
Good fucking luck. What is your GPA and how many internships do you have?

[Anonymous No.9985355]

How important is calculus to an engineer or more specifically an EE?
Last year of calc is 3d stuff, don’t really want to focus on it since I have other classes on logic design, circuit analysis, and matlab which feel more important. Is it worth investing a little more time to really understand calc, or should I just do bare minimum to pass with a B

[Anonymous No.9985386]

So I wanna try dot paper for my class notes since I can't organize my notes worth shit and fractions fuck me up when it comes to college ruled.

What size do I go with? B5? I feel like I've written on standard A4 my whole life, but I also have more space than I know what to do with since math is generally worked top to bottom..i also wouldn't mind note organizing starts

[Anonymous No.9985408]

>>9985386
Dude its just paper.

[Anonymous No.9985414]

>>9985408
Thanks anon, keep me posted.

I'm trying to keep cleaner notes because I never come back to look at them, and when I do they are also messy. I don't think trying to take better notes is wrong

[Anonymous No.9985416]

>>9985414
It’s not the paper’s fault that your notes are sloppy.

[Anonymous No.9985420]

>>9985416
I also asked for advice for taking notes.

[Anonymous No.9985529]

Mathfag turned programmer here..

Don't know how you engineers do it. Every engineer I know tells me that they are hated at their workplace because they came in at a higher salary and get treated better than the technicians and laborers who've worked there for a dozen years. Sounds shitty. The exception is chemical engineering.

[Anonymous No.9985532]

>>9984745
Accounting is the right choice. Plenty of jobs, good pay, low math/science required.

You might be automated out in 10 years though

[Anonymous No.9985634]

>>9985351
Have a 3.5 at the moment and I've done an internship at a construction company and an aerospace firm around Houston. Planning on applying for one at NASA over the summer but I doubt that's going to work out.

[Anonymous No.9985692]

>>9985529
I'm a chemical engineer working at a plant, I think I have to deal with blue collar coworkers more than most engineers so I don't know why you think it's an exception.

Being able to work with operators and maintenance hands is a pretty important skill. At least where I work, they're almost all good guys and they're definitely not stupid. They don't hate engineers unless you get a big head and talk down to them. They also usually make more than entry-level engineers do because they get tons of overtime, but their jobs are certainly a lot shittier.

As an engineer you're there to help them, they're the ones who actually keep the place running and making product. You shouldn't be giving them orders, and you should be open to their input because they have a lot more first-hand knowledge than you. They're the end users of whatever stuff you design, too, so you have the responsibility to make stuff that actually makes their lives easier and safer.

[Anonymous No.9985708]

>>9985529
The same goes for most work places and professions that rely on outside hiring for major positions. For example, joining the military as an officer or a new supervisor without industry experience. It sucks because there is usually 1 in 10 shit heads who can actually learn what they need on the job, but they’re held up.

With that said, I’m panicking brehs please I’m sorry to post the same bad posts but do I need to switch from electrical engineering to Civil ? I just want to work up to a stimulating, or atleast respectful position so I can live out my days in comfort and leisurely hobbies . I find the EE curriculum more interesting but is civil the way to go for comfy, southern rural salary slaving? Reality and statistics suggest so given the majority of our infrastructure is damn old. The same goes for electrical systems though no? There are no internships posted in my city right now. I just submitted a resume to an electronics shop that sets up/sales commercial/residential home electronic systems. Is that a waste of time?? I also dropped off a resume with a local mineral extraction company, the job would be working in wet and dry mill labs preparing and testing samples. Is this a waste of time? I have a good track history for holding jobs a long time and being able to communicate well. Should I only apply for engineering related things at this point ? I have no contacts, limited network, and my family has no status. Some of this is my fault. Can someone hire me?

tldr nervous 24 year old boomer about to start backend of BS please send help and guidance

[Anonymous No.9985828]

>>9982966
if you're EE/CE you can probably teach yourself programming, its not like you're not required to learn some of it already. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be too hard to get into app development since you already have some knowledge of data structures and OOP.

[Anonymous No.9986354]

any ideas on what are ideal careers to go into if you're a physics/EE double major?

what about physics/CS double major?

[Anonymous No.9987716]

>>9985692
>so I don't know why you think it's an exception.
Just from the anecdotes I've heard.

>At least where I work, they're almost all good guys and they're definitely not stupid. They don't hate engineers unless you get a big head and talk down to them.
Well, it seems that my anecdotes were accurate then

>>9985708
>is civil the way to go for comfy, southern rural salary slaving?

I don't know what this means.

Talking to civil engineers, their jobs are reliant on how much federal, state and/or local spending goes into infrastructure. With republicans in control of congress, don't expect much. You'll be limited to private companies and private companies are simply not expanding right now. The US economy is still in recovery from the recession and interest rates are miniscule but still, no one is borrowing. (And they're raising the interest rates now).

Does your bachelor's programs offer a co-op? If not, just keep spamming applications. The job market is pretty abysmal so you just have to keep trying.

[Anonymous No.9988547]

learning python yes or no as an electrical engineer?

[Anonymous No.9988586]

>>9988547
yes for every engineer. python and VBA.

[Anonymous No.9988592]

>Boeing is filled with literal baby boomers that are about to retire
>they cut expenses by forcing them into retirement without replacing them with anyone
J U S T

[Anonymous No.9988778]

>>9988586
should I master excel as well? My engineering economics prof said it should be something we should be good at.

[Anonymous No.9988786]

>>9988778
>master excel
thats what VBA is

[Anonymous No.9988797]

>>9972500
My sympathies. I've just started doing construction inspection at the start of summer. The path I'm on is leading me to be doing project engineering, but I really think I want to do design. I hear from a lot of my coworkers who are doing things like 60 hour weeks which just doesn't sound appealing to me at all.

[Anonymous No.9988979]

>>9988786
do you have a good textbook for python? I would be self-learning this. I don't want to do the codeacademy or whatever since I already know C/C++ so I don't think picking up python should be too hard.

[Anonymous No.9989021]

>>9988979
>books

# Defining a function
def some_function(foo, bar):
foobar = foo + bar
for i in range(800813):
foobar += i * foobar
return foobar

Congrats, you now know most of python.

[Anonymous No.9989289]

>>9971611
I like it because it's easy LOL srs

[Anonymous No.9989292]

>>9971783
Patrician
>>9972690

[Anonymous No.9989298]

>>9974322
it's excessively meme. just do EE and you can go into robotics

[Anonymous No.9989535]

>>9971549
Has anyone had luck getting referrals by schmoozing old guys at upscale bars during the day? I'm going crazy trying to secure an internship. If there are any north Florida anons reading this, please send help.

[Anonymous No.9990502]

>>9984733
the only way ME is worth it is if you commission in the military (either active duty or reserves/national guard) so that you can score a job in the defense industry. without veteran status it's pretty much impossible, and those are the only non-shit jobs for MEs left.

[Anonymous No.9990679]

>>9988786
>VBA
What do you mean?

I did a quick Google and it looks like VBA is used for putting quick scripts into excel...as if it's an extension.

[Anonymous No.9990696]

>>9984733
every stem field except programming is oversaturated

[Anonymous No.9990715]

Ridiculously open-ended question you can't really answer well because I didn't give you enough details but please try anyhow: how much would it cost to build a mechanical arm that can inject someone with a syringe, in a given location, from a given angle, to a given depth, at pinpint accuracy? Suppose that the patient presents the relevant body part, though not necessarily at the ideal angle, height or distance.

[Anonymous No.9990756]

>>9990679
Yeah, that’s what it’s for. I know it sounds stupid but %90 of the stuff you get that you need to do engineering calculations on is going to be in excel and for compatibility to your customer, your deliverables are going to be in, you guessed it, excel.

[Anonymous No.9990852]

>>9990715
A few thousand in hardware and tens of millions in testing and regulatory approval.

[Anonymous No.9991272]

>>9990852
This.

[Anonymous No.9991295]

>>9990715
>>9990852
>tens of millions
if the FDA is in charge of the regulatory approval, which would be consistent with the regulation of things like epipens, the cost could easily get north of 100 million for US approval alone. After FDA approval most of that testing will get you most of the way to approval in most countries so it wouldn't get shockingly higher than that
.

[Anonymous No.9991513]

>>9988797

Construction admin wouldn't be that bad if everyone around you wasn't retarded. This is the first project I've done, and I've made plenty of mistakes, but all parties involved make things so much more difficult just because they can't follow simple directions in the specifications.

My resident inspector is an older guy, lots of inspection experience but not in this field. I tell him, I need inspection reports every time the contractor installs X. I remind him, you getting your inspection reports for X? He turns them in at the end of the month and he only has half of them, after we've already processed the contractor's pay application.

Or the contractor. He's supposed to turn in a set of videos for closeout documentation. Per the specs they need to be named a certain way. He sends me a hard drive of them, I take a look and they aren't named correctly. I call him up, send him an e-mail with the spec section on filenames. Send him back the hard drive to correct it. I get it back three days later with literally no changes to anything on the hard drive, like he just unpacked it, boxed it right back up, and sent it back. Then he's missing some of them, one of his superintendents forgot to download a bunch to their server. But he thinks it's OK because it's close enough.

And then of course I get the owner's rep calling me every day asking about the reports and the submittals and it's my fault they aren't complete. It is, to a certain degree, but I can't look over my inspector's shoulder all day every day for a project 300 miles away from my office. I can't follow the contractor's supers back to their hotel and make them download their data. I can't drive to the contractor's home office and make them organize their shit the way it's specified. The best I can do is hold their pay apps and then I get more calls from the owner's rep asking why the project is billing behind schedule and how they are going to meet their bonding requirements.

[Anonymous No.9992772]

what's a good textbook for control theory for meche?

[Anonymous No.9992803]

>>9971549
>Applied scientists/mathematicians
So you mean engineers? Kinda redundant don't you think?

[Anonymous No.9993049]

>>9971549
I'm being considered for a research and development intern position at a health care software and data management company. The major responsibilities involve, attending meetings, documenting software changes for others, and troubleshooting/resolving software issues. The company otherwise employs a lot of call center types. Am I being rused into a fancy tech support role?

[Anonymous No.9993051]

>>9993049
sorry for the double post, but C sharp and SQL are preferred.

[Anonymous No.9993166]

>>9993049
First internship?

[Anonymous No.9993199]

>>9993166
Yes it is! I do have many years of non-"engineering" office experience though. Not in anything off phones though. I was wrong in my original post, I found out the whole office is dedicated to "R&D". They have other offices where they stash the phone reps. Not sure how that changes things.

[Anonymous No.9993358]

>>9993199
if its your first internship, don't worry about what you are actually doing. as long as its paid and engineering related.

[Anonymous No.9993696]

>>9971549
i'm an older nontraditional ME undergrad transfer student and need to start putting relevant things on my resume (also fairly shitty GPA but I'm confident I can get it above a 3.2+ with time). Two (maybe one) summers left to get internships (I'll likely be a fall graduate). there's an undergrad on-campus "research" position involving electrical microcontroller/arduino signal processing stuff to study brain injuries. It's clearly suited for EE people but for whatever ridiculous reason it's in a ME department (I guess they study the mechanical dynamics of head injuries and thus need to also LARP as neuroscientists) I'm ok with electrical concepts, I was a technician and recently got a B in EE basic circuits..... Should I go for it or should I just wait to find some other low commitment student job to look like I'm not lazy? I have a 3 year employment gap because I'm a GI bill student and don't need money.

[Anonymous No.9994189]

>ChemE student in a 3rd World country

how fucked am I

[Anonymous No.9994258]

does anyone here know where i could go to get information about solving for stress functions within solids? I'm a cs student that's having trouble transferring, and im trying to learn mechanical engineering independently as a backup plan.
specifically, i cant find any textbooks or online examples that show how to solve for stress in a 3d block.

[Anonymous No.9994263]

>>9994189
What country?

[Anonymous No.9994661]

Oh, I just got a notification that the paper me and a classmate submitted to the AIAA got accepted.

The question now is do we go to the forum or not. I honestly barely remember what we did, it was back in April, and I didn't expect it to get accepted.

[Anonymous No.9994970]

>>9994258
Mechanics of materials by hibbler

[Anonymous No.9995340]

>>9994189
EE student in a 3rd World Country, my uni has some, ejem, pardnership with UTT (Troyes, France) but idk if I should learn French and attempt to apply for it, is it a meme university? Any frog here?

[Anonymous No.9995525]

EE student here.
What are intern/job interviews like? Would they give you a test and you would have to solve it? During a lecture, my professor randomly said “oh this would be a good interview question”. Are interviews all based on test questions or would they ask other stuff?

[Anonymous No.9995573]

>>9994970
this is some really good shit. Exactly what i was looking for. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.9995673]

>>9995525
They can test you on anything, I was once given a set of addition/subtraction/multiplication/division questions that I had to do by hand for an engineering management position.

[Anonymous No.9995730]

>>9995525
In chemical engineering I never really had test questions or stuff where I actually had to work out a problem, but I've heard some companies are a real pain in the ass in their interviews and do stuff like that.

I did have some technical questions, but mostly when I was applying for internships rather than for full time jobs later. It was usually pretty simple stuff like "what assumptions are built into Bernoulli's equation and when is it a useful approximation" or they would ask me to explain how a centrifugal pump works or explain what would happen if different parameters are changed in a distillation column.

[Anonymous No.9995913]

>>9995730
what the fuck i can't answer that off the top of my head, not anymore at least

[Anonymous No.9996047]

>>9991513
?I tell him, I need inspection reports every time the contractor installs X. I remind him, you getting your inspection reports for X? He turns them in at the end of the month and he only has half of them, after we've already processed the contractor's pay application.

And I feel bad if my report is turned in noon the next day. My boss has been stressed out on some other project where the sub inspector was almost a month late with his reports. I've been going through them and they are essentially worthless. His pay items have been all kinds of fucked up with items listed at stations several hundreds of feet away, quantities with no sketches or calculations, and lots of missing and mislabeled tickets. I'm glad I'm seeing what not to do right now so that I don't make any similar mistakes when subbed out.

[Anonymous No.9996248]

>>9988786
It's hidden under the Developer tab (not enabled by default) in Excel, right?
Or will I have to download this

[Anonymous No.9996270]

>>9990679
If you have excel, go make sure your developer tab is enabled and you should have it by default and be able to open it

[Anonymous No.9996278]

>>9996248
>It's hidden under the Developer tab (not enabled by default) in Excel, right?

yep

[Anonymous No.9996294]

>>9994970
This is what I used, so doubling recommendation

[Anonymous No.9996347]

>>9996278
any good resources for learning VBA?
I thought I found one on MS virtual Academy but that was visual studios

[Anonymous No.9996395]

>>9971549
I need serious advise engineers and engineering students, I’m at a loss. EE at UF (more prestige(?)/history/research but smaller city size and less internships/entry level positions , intel/guugle) or EE at UCF (literally who,60 year old ex ITT. Lockheed Martin, space coast lmao, Orlando big city with more internship/entry)

I want to work, but I also want to feel good about my school. I can’t afford to go zipping around the country or cruise off for the summer. And if you know how to afford these things please tell me. Barring family and or scholarship contributions.

[Anonymous No.9997227]

>>9985634

[Anonymous No.9997259]

>31 hours of lectures per week this sem

[Anonymous No.9997386]

>>9997259
Why tho?

[Anonymous No.9998375]

>>9985634
>>9997227
Just get a job and work on your master's part-time through evening classes or online, and have the company you're working for pay for it

[Anonymous No.9998502]

>>9994970
used this book, would recommend

[Anonymous No.9998506]

I do nothing at my job and get paid $65K out of university for ME just because I worked as an intern for the company before. This is so stupid and unfulfilling but the money is good so I guess this is the rest of my life.

[Anonymous No.9998508]

>>9997259
Just give up dumb frog

[Anonymous No.9998552]

>>9998506
>$65k
>good
That's literally average for any fresh college graduate. You are making the same salary as the people that studied sports education.

[Anonymous No.9998558]

how to go to grad school if you have a 2.78 GPA

[Anonymous No.9998568]

>>9998558
you don't.

[Anonymous No.9998574]

>graduated this year
>Don't have the experience to get any actual engineering jobs where I am (Calgary AKA Recession town)
>Way to over qualified to get a chump job because they know I'm going to bail once I find an actual job
>unemployed, little job prospects, lots of debt
who else?

[Anonymous No.9998744]

>>9998558
Work in industry for a while and try to get an exception

[Anonymous No.9998845]

>>9997386
Italian university. And they're all mandatory subjects. There's some easier shit thrown in like information systems and databases, but Microelectronics is obviously going to be the behemoth this semester.

[Anonymous No.10000020]

Engineering is gay

[Anonymous No.10000165]

>>9998574
You gotta move friend, isn’t that clear? Further your debt so you can go interview elsewhere.


>>10000020
You sound like my community college peers who want to become engineers.

[Anonymous No.10000178]

>>9971611
Focus on digital signal processing, it is very conceptual and math heavy.

[Anonymous No.10000204]

>>9978515
I assume you're talking about, loop gain, closed loop gain, and open loop gain.
Loop gain is the gain of the feedback loop.
Open loop gain is the gain of the amp itself, without any feedback.
Closed loop gain is the gain of the full system including the feedback.

[Anonymous No.10000223]

>coasted through my maths classes last year
>now doing signals and systems
I wish I paid more attention now.

[Anonymous No.10000251]

>>9998552
Haha, good troll mate.

[Anonymous No.10000283]

>>10000223
Define coasted please because sometimes I feel like I’m coasting through them but I’m getting good grades.

[Anonymous No.10000375]

>>9996395
School is the background for your becoming a new more skilled person and doing stuff you can use on your resume.
Choose whichever will put you closer to opportunity and don't skimp on coding classes

[Anonymous No.10000438]

>>10000283
>still get good grades (1st class for any britbongs)
>do the bare minimum of work
>don't do extra problem sheets etc

[Anonymous No.10000446]

>>10000178
>di
Thanks for the suggestion anon, will investigate

[Anonymous No.10001047]

>>9998574
Sounds like me back in ‘16. My advice would be to get a job, any job, to pay rent and keep looking. I know this will hurt, you’ll probably have to take your degree of your resume

[Anonymous No.10002587]

>>9971549
Is Medical Physics a meme degree ?

[Anonymous No.10003554]

>>9972524
Me

[Anonymous No.10003567]

wtf everyone from my class has a job but me

[Anonymous No.10003607]

>>9996047

>I'm glad I'm seeing what not to do right now so that I don't make any similar mistakes when subbed out.

Construction admin and CEI have a serious shortage of competent people. It's the same with surveying.

On the one hand, I'm not surprised because the jobs are generally low-paying and involve a lot of shitty work. On the other hand, it's insane how many people just straight up don't give a fuck about doing an honest day's work.

It doesn't help matters that CA and CEI are pretty much just middlemen designed to catch the heat when things go off the rails. Very hard to do these things well, especially if your contractor or your owner want to make your life difficult.

I just need to get these projects over with and go back to design.

[Anonymous No.10005077]

Does anyone go here? Heard it’s a good engineering uni in France

[Anonymous No.10005083]

>>9998845
SNS?

[Anonymous No.10005216]

>>10003567
you gotta network and attend those engineering clubs/societies unis have dude lmao. Go to job fairs as well.

[Anonymous No.10005355]

>>10005077
I'm interested but not sure about what you meant in your sentence. Do you mean that you live in France and you heard about it?

[Anonymous No.10005532]

how do i get an internship?

[Anonymous No.10005672]

>>10005077
A French engineer is like an American nutritionist - it's just not a good mix

[Anonymous No.10005717]

>>10005672
does that mean that a french engineering masters program would be easy to get into?

[Anonymous No.10005744]

>>10005717
Idk, just because something isn't good doesn't mean it isn't exclusive

[Anonymous No.10005745]

>>10005744
>just because something isn't good doesn't mean it isn't exclusive

yeah, that sounds like a pretty french thing to do.

[Anonymous No.10005806]

>be me
>4th year eng
>need new laptop
>all I do on my computer is write reports, read pdfs, code, and sometimes youtube
>I don't play videogames ever
>why am I on windows?

Should I buy a new computer, wipe it, and just use Ubuntu? Are there any drawbacks with this?

What does /sci/ use for an OS?

[Anonymous No.10005834]

>>9975191
It’s quite literally just practice

[Anonymous No.10005892]

>>10005806
stinkpad

[Anonymous No.10005975]

At what point does electrical engineering because "engineering"? Currently I'm taking digital logic design, introduction to engineering, foundation of Computer Programming and Cal 2.
I'm not really enjoying any of the classes and thinking about switching to IT or Is because it sounds more interesting to me.
Not sure if it just that those classes are boring or it's just me not enjoying it, so I thought I'll ask here.
Secondly, is it the norm to spend both weekdays and weekends on homework?

[Anonymous No.10006215]

>>9971549

Time management, seeing that you're pretty bad at it (you go on 4chan).

[Anonymous No.10006240]

>>10005806
I got a chromebook and put ubuntu on it with a thing called crouton. Works fine, and was only $200, although I had to install kde because it runs better and takes less space and I'm used to gnome, but it was fine.

[Anonymous No.10006373]

>>9971783
>>9985708
>>9972500
>civil
>pi = 3

[Anonymous No.10006869]

>>10005672
Lausanne is in Switzerland

[Anonymous No.10006886]

>>10005975
wait at least a full year, it sounds like your first semester
after that if you still aren't interested then you should consider changing majors
>Secondly, is it the norm to spend both weekdays and weekends on homework?
yes
despite what /sci/ will have you believe (i.e. lmao it's easy just study like once a semester and don't even attend lectures unless you're some turbo brainlet), courses do get harder and you will need to give up more free time to study

[Anonymous No.10007072]

any good books or websites where to learn Statics & Dynamics?

[Anonymous No.10007097]

Reminder that all you students in this thread should consider switching majors because engineering is dead in the US. Despite what they tell you, the job market is a steaming pile of shit.

[Anonymous No.10007172]

>>10006886
Oh okay Anon, guess I'll try another semester to see if I enjoy it

[Anonymous No.10007209]

>>10007172
yeah it's just too early to tell right now
if this is your first semester then you really haven't touched anything involving circuits
next semester when you take a formal circuit analysis class you'll realize whether or not you enjoy EE

also to answer your question of "when it becomes engineering" the answer there is when you start having labs, that's when you turn theory into practice which is what engineering is mostly about

[Anonymous No.10007252]

>>10007097
This

[Anonymous No.10007407]

Gonna hop onto one of my campus's engineering teams for something since I still have at least another semester before I graduate. (Did my senior projects and shit already) Here are my options that I think sound interesting:
Robonation RoboSub, develop and build an autonomous sub that competes in a few dasks
Robonation's Roboboat - same as above, just with a boat
SpaceX Hyperloop - Build and apply to compete in the SpaceX's Hyperloop competition. Apparently my school got pretty close to being selected last year, but a few things fell through on the application packet.

From what it sounds like, the first two have more "engineering" tasks to do, while the 3rd seems like the plans are pretty in place and they just need people to build and test shit. When I mentioned I was a mechanical, the robosub dudes got excited because they needed somebody to do some design work like that and build some new shit for their previous design. I'm just really drawn to Hyperloop as a networking opportunity, but it is a much larger team from what i understand.

Any of you fags have any insight on what I should pick and would be more fun?

[Anonymous No.10007416]

>>10007407
Do the sub, nigger

Better yet, focus on getting a job or into a good grad school

[Anonymous No.10007419]

>>10007416
I'm doing one to make my resume look better tbqhwyf since i dont have any EC projects, and I'd like one more to give myself some more shit to talk about. I'm not taking a heavy course load. So im also working on finding a job

Life is pain as a fledgling engineer

[Anonymous No.10007479]

>>9971549
>Another thread for engineers and applied scientists
>scientist
lmao delusional nigger

[Anonymous No.10008351]

What's the comfiest engineering?

[Anonymous No.10008354]

>>10008351
Doing maintenance/facilities stuff. Just find yourself a factory or tech campus somewhere.

[Anonymous No.10009252]

How the fug did my professor get 20vn - 20vi + 4vn + vn = 0 for this circuit?

[Anonymous No.10010228]

>>9971549
I think that a course on optimization should be included in every curriculum. It's crucial to every industry if you're going to end up making any kind of real contribution

[Anonymous No.10010233]

>>10010228
I agree. It's super interesting stuff.

[Anonymous No.10010252]

>>10009252
thats bizarre, never seen anything like it. Just solve for VN using the fact that it's a voltage divider.
It's an ideal amp so V_ = V+ - 0V
then its just a divider with 1k on top and 20k||25k on bottom.

[Anonymous No.10010277]

>>10010252
>20k||25k
I mean 20k||5k

[Anonymous No.10012140]

>>9971549
What's your favourite software for digital prototyping? (and posterior use for manufacture/3d printing/assembly)
Is there any that has good simulation capabilities? As in simulating forces, motors, actuators, mechanisms, heat transfer...
I'm just a hobbyist but I want to know about these tools.
Maybe I should go with something with COMSOL, but is it too overkill?

[Anonymous No.10012955]

Just switched to computer from electrical this semester, bad story bro? I dunno, here we only have an electro physics and systems track, and the landmark courses for both (electromagnetics and signals & systems) sucked boring ass for me. It's my first semester as computer so it shouldn't be too bad if I switch back to electrical, question is should I?
I only went computer in the first place because I liked the C programming class we all had to take, and CENG should have more of thatd but I don't really program as a hobby (like I have no casual projects of my own) so that may be a red flag already. I mean I could probably start a programming hobby now but it might be too little too late yknow.

[Anonymous No.10012979]

>>10012140
>Is there any that has good simulation capabilities?
As an EE graduate I learned that no simulation software is better than prototyping motors irl since basically all simulation software is driven by theory and there's no practicality. Also your other questions are better suited for /diy/ since most of the people in this thread still appear to be students.

>>10012955
Do what you're more passionate in. Those two degrees are fairly similar, and employers didn't really discriminate when I was job hunting.

[Anonymous No.10013268]

>>10012140
Solidworks for sure. It’s basically an engineering video game on steroids. Just do the tutorials and you’ll be doing FEA/CFD in no time. Get good at it and you can probably even get a job lol.

[Anonymous No.10013869]

>>10009252
looks like he tried to do nodal analysis by following some weird paths and making grand, incorrect assumptions (like voltage across 5k is the same as 10k because of the ground connection so he can write 4VN, which is wrong), and topping it off with using V*R instead of delta V / R

[Anonymous No.10013885]

>>10013268
>Just do the tutorials and you'll be getting garbage results using FEA/CFD in no time

[Anonymous No.10014727]

>>9988979
learning python is mostly about learning the libraries, like scipy. the syntax is easy as shit. just try find what libraries exist for EE related stuff

[Anonymous No.10014813]

>tfw you realize you're never gonna get a job in EE so you're desperately learning JS and python now

[Anonymous No.10014892]

>>10013268
Thanks for the answer.
>>10012979
Well that is a little bit... ~unpractical.
My resources are limited.
>>10013885
Why is that?

[Anonymous No.10014958]

>>10014813
This, but for all engineering

[Anonymous No.10014991]

>>9998506
what company, what position?

[Anonymous No.10014997]

>>10005077
wtf is it with french unis and anime mascots?

[Anonymous No.10015006]

>>10007419
then do the hyperloop and either spend time networking and doing an excellent job on the project, or just do the bare minimum for the resume badge and don't bother networking.

[Anonymous No.10015030]

>>10014892
FEA/CFD simulations are just that - simulations - and rely on a huge number of assumptions. Without understanding and controlling those assumptions, it's very easy to make a model that looks reasonable but doesn't match reality at all. Here's one example, where a flat plate rotated 10 degrees, with no applied loads, shows high stresses: https://www.comsol.com/blogs/what-is-geometric-nonlinearity/

That example may be obvious, but can be harder to pick out when the displacement or deformation is mixed in with (or caused by) other loading.

Don't get me wrong, FEA and CFD are powerful tools that can help you drastically reduce prototyping costs and make better designs, but it's worth investing some time learning about how they work, and even then, I would check your model against some simple prototypes before spending a lot of money.

[Anonymous No.10016085]

i used to think people who pulled all-nighters had shitty time management skills

then i became a junior EE and didn't sleep for 50 hours straight and wrote until my hand had blisters

neat

[Anonymous No.10016174]

Your favorite book ever on anything.
Go.
I promise you I will download the pdf and skim through it superficially for 20 mins or so.

[Anonymous No.10016185]

>>9971549
so I'm 22 and am just now studying for an exam to maybe join an uni next year. am I gonna have a REAL hard time after I'm done with it? if I don't pass this year I'm willing to try it out next year too, but will get a job nonetheless which I don't have as of now

[Anonymous No.10016425]

>give up on finding an engineering job
>apply to codemonkey positions instead
>"Why don't you just work for Boeing instead of here? lmao"
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FUCKING HIRING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.10016620]

>>10016425
>falling for le aero maymay
All on you, laddie

>>10016085
Livin the dream

>>10016174
Hard to say, but for aerospace stress analysis, I really like Michael Niu's Airframe Stress Analysis and Sizing.

[Anonymous No.10016632]

>>10016425
My buddy who is a finance major just got a job with boeing for $22/hr

[Anonymous No.10016666]

>>10016632
That's what my gf makes shipping boxes in an Amazon warehouse.

[Anonymous No.10017047]

>>10016632
What is the ethnicity and gender of your friend

[Anonymous No.10017315]

What could I do with a Bachelor of Music and Bachelor of Science?

[Anonymous No.10017546]

>>10017315
Design a scientific method to rate music.
So we can finally establish that modern pop music is garbage, and get normies to accept their shit taste.

[Anonymous No.10017551]

Guys I'm in my second year of engineering, currently doing civil engineering. However, I seriously do not know whether I want to continue with this major or change to petroleum engineering. Can someone help me with this please? What should I do guys? Which is better?

[Anonymous No.10017598]

>>10017551
Switch to computer science if you value your future.

[Anonymous No.10017604]

>>10017598
This. If you are looking at petroleum because of the money, just do CS instead and save yourself from being at the mercy of the oil and gas markets.

[Anonymous No.10017614]

>>10017551
Just learn as much applied mathematics you can. That shit is useful everywhere and you will be like a wizard among jesters.

[Anonymous No.10017623]

>>10017614
How does learning applied maths help me?

[Anonymous No.10017640]

>>10017623
You will be able to concieve and build more advanced algorithms than the engineers who dont know as much math. Algorithms are useful in all fields and all branches.

[Anonymous No.10017728]

>>9971549

so i found out i have to take second semester of general chem.

it's been ages since i took general chem 1. what relevant shit do i need to review from general chem 1 to prepare for general chem 2?

[Anonymous No.10017975]

I've been sitting here for three hours trying to figure out (A).
How do I know the regions I need to integrate?

[Anonymous No.10017998]

>>10017728
isnt chem 2 mostly just thermo plug and chug?

[Anonymous No.10018213]

>>10017975
I'm not good with latex so bear with me.
You transform (e) which is your h(t) to h(t-τ) so it's the same function mirrored and from t-1 to t.
Then you slide it along the x axis of (b) (your x(t))
There are 5 different states of overlap so you basically need to calculate 3 integrals, for the first one and the last one there is no overlap so it's 0.

As soon as h(t-τ) starts to enter your x(t)
From 2 to t, for 2<t<3 (it can only reach up to 3 before the entire h enters)

As soon as the entire h(t-τ) is inside your x(t)
From t-1 to t, for 3<t<4

As soon as h starts to exit x
From t-1 to 4, for 4<t<5 (t reaches 5 when the entire h exits)

Anywhere else it's 0.

[Anonymous No.10018251]

>>9978513
>This is exactly how retards end up jumping into masters programs in order to avoid gaps in work history, they burn through undergrad making zero connections and getting no internships

I didn't make a particularly great effort through undergrad to end quickly albeit I got good grades. Nevertheless, due to my painful shyness I made zero connections and now I don't have idea of what to do. In a few months I'll get my degree and I'll probably be jobless.

What to do /sci/ ? I don't want to kill myself.

[Anonymous No.10018277]

>>10018213
Much appreciated, I tried something similar after going through my notes again but it came out all wrong.

[Anonymous No.10018280]

>>10017975
>>10018213
>>10018277
Forgot to mention these states of overlap happen when the area where h(t-τ)!=0 is smaller than that of x(t).
For example when the area is the same for x and h you need only 2 integrals (one for when it enters and one for when it exits)
A good exercise is to calculate [math]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} x(t-τ) h(t) dτ[/math] for A, where the are of x which slides is larger than the one of h, it's not that much different.
Also, I guess the proper way to write it (for example for the first state of the previous example) would be
[math]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} x(t)h(t-τ)dτ = \int_{-\infty}^{2} ... + \int_{2}^{t} + \int_{t}^{\infty} = \int_{2}^{t} [/math]
Finally wikipedia has some gifs which visualize it nicely