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How long until we have complete control of phenotypes and we can start fucking around with embryos, giving them 4 arms and 10 feet tall and shit?

>> No.9963969

Come on visionaries of /sci/, I want to know when programmable women are available.

>> No.9964233

>>9963907
We will never allow such defiancy

>> No.9964237

>>9963907
A 4 armed 10 foot tall "human" is not optimized at all. Such an abomination will never be created.

>> No.9964321

>>9964237
yeah but we can start testing

>> No.9964344

>>9963969
Fuck off, incel.

>> No.9964346

>>9964344
>>9963969
women are sacred on this board, don't you forget it, piggot

>> No.9964354

I always thought it was odd that men have two arms but only one dick.

>> No.9964356

>>9964237
All you have to do is also alter the part of the brain responsible for attraction/disgust so that a four arm human is seen as "normal" and it won't be an abomination at all.

>> No.9964574

>>9963907
Humans will never be genetically engineered into such abominations. Except maybe just for research purposes in some shady Chinese laboratory.
Genetic engineering of humans(assuming moralfags get over their case of debilitating retardation) will be limited to things like reducing cancer risk, improving immune function, improving intelligence, and selecting eye/hair color. If you are asking when that is going to happen, we already have the ability to do some of it. Due to faggots screaming “eugenics” every time the topic is discussed I would say complete mastery of genetic engineering of humans will likely be limited more by policy than technology, but I give it 20 years or so.

>> No.9964605

>>9964237
I bet the chinese basketball teams are already growing some like that. They've already practiced eugenics

>> No.9964611

>>9964574
lmao are you serious? Rich people can and will use genetic engineering to make super babies as soon as it is proven to be safe and reliable. It doesn't matter if it's illegal in X country, they'll just fly to someplace where it's legal and do it. There are plenty of people who don't share your personal sense of morality and just want their genetics to go into a demigod son.

>> No.9964765

>>9964611
Nowhere did i say, or imply super babies wouldnt be a thing. I said genetic engineering of humans will not be used to make 4 armed giants, because nobody wants that. Then i said it would likely be limited more by policy than technology. Lrn2read dude.

>> No.9964767

>>9964356
You don't need to alter the brain for that, that's just socialization. I meant that a human with 4 arms that's 10 feet tall is quite literally inferior and there is no reason to make one over other forms that don't suck.

>> No.9964781

>>9964346
Stop posting on this board

>> No.9964852

>>9963907
Tomorrow.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/08/scientists-tweak-dna-viable-human-embryos

>> No.9964858

>>9963907
>>9963907
When we figure out what the other 98% of human DNA does. Genes make up less then 2%

>> No.9964860

>>9964858
junk viral genes

>> No.9964864

>>9964858
It's all about expression and regulation, 98% junk dna is as big of a meme as huurr we only use 10% of our brain

>> No.9964912

>>9964767
we could make a human without consciousness (like no pain receptors or anything) but make him still cognitively active so that he could do our taxes

>> No.9964920

>>9964912
>no pain receptors
>nothing to discourage self harm
>immediately commits suicide when the realization that he is a fake human that only does taxes

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>>9964611

How many genes do you have to replace before it's no longer "your son"?

>>9963907
Wanna see what the future looks like if you give people free agency for their appearence? Try browsing /d. Initially people will modify their appearance into whatever they want virtually; its only a matter of time until theyre capable of doing in the "real world" geometry matrix, if they have free agency and the ability to do so.

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>>9964923

>How long until people engineer literal bio-cancer like the Zerg (from SC) or the Flood (from Halo)? Afterall, it's just a matter of engineering the correct chemical geometry to manifest those nightmares.....

>> No.9964934

>>9964912
What the fuck does the sensation of pain have to do with consciousness?

>>9964864
It’s not, though. A portion of human DNA is nonfunctional trash.

>> No.9964937

>>9964923
It will always be your son as long as you raise him yourself.

>> No.9964950

>>9964934
nigga do you really expect me to define consciousness. what i mean is, basically lobotomise him so he doesn't feel anything, but can still perform cognitive taxes. you fucking figure it out i'm not the scientist here.

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>>9964937

What you really mean, is that you're adopting a genetically superior specimen that isn't really related to you that much.

>Not that adoption is a bad thing inherently; but just be honest about what's happening, one way or the other.

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9964962

>>9963907
>tfw born too early to have my genes edited in utero
>tfw stuck with shit genetics for life
>tfw will always be out-competed in the job market by 170 IQ genetically engineered applicants
Should I just kill myself?

>> No.9965001

>>9964950
I thought anything with consciousness was just anything that subjectively experienced reality.

>>9964955
I don’t think it really matters if you’re genetically related or not. We are not slaves to our selfish genes.

>> No.9965013

>>9964962
>out-competed in the job market by 170 IQ genetically engineered applicants
Actually the Artificial Intelligence will out-compete any Human applicant including those 170 IQ artificial kids.

So don't worry about those kids.
Worry about AI instead.

>> No.9965043

>>9965013
Why worry? Just switch to universal basic income when wage labor becomes obsolete and turn everyone into cyborgs. Our gods of steel and silicon will lead us to the stars.

>> No.9965061

>>9964962
In vivo engineering is coming. Very Fast.

And true for Ai, but bci will help us function in harmony. We may then choose to change our brain hardware, but that is decades away probably.

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>>9965001

Spotted the xeno cuck lover who would glady get on their knees and xuck infective protoplasm which would twist their divine vessel into a twisted abomination hell-bent on the annihilation of the human race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjIVkl34Vig

>> No.9965079

>>9965001
Cuck genes die off by natural selection

>> No.9965082

>>9964574
>>9964611
>>9964765
'Eugenics' basically being a slur in the vein of 'fascism' is interesting because it is tantamount to not only allowing those with wealth and power to diverge and improve themselves anyway (thus setting the course for a slowly accumulating racial divide), but also the general populations of less hesitant countries. I imagine it won't be like a movie or game or some shit, where such divides are blatant and known, no, instead everyone will try convince themselves that it's fine. And just ignore the upcoming differences, namely, in intelligence. The same culture that oppresses hateful notions of 'eugenics' will be the culture that insists all is well, we are all 'equal'. Meanwhile, a select few are literal superhumans with far higher intelligence and the foresight to retain that stable status quo of subservient retardation.

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>>9963907
>control of phenotypes
>phenotype

The Big Brain PHENOTYPE

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>>9965082 >>9965124 >>9963907

(((Jews))) did Eugenics for Centuries, by Inbreeding.

Nazis tried to catch up and do the same.

But even today, smart people inbreed with smart people.

>> No.9965285

>>9963907
150 years at the very minimum, we're at 80 years till we create a true super-human

>> No.9965414

>>9965061
If you believe in the AI meme then you should understand that if AGI happens we'll have every pipe-dream technology like brain enhancing chips or adult bio engineering be perfectly figured out and available within weeks of AI reaching human level intelligence, since it can just self improve to super intelligence.

>> No.9965420

>>9965128
People whine about "idiocracy" because dumb people breed more, but as long as the smart people are fucking smart people we'll have that island of smart people to carry humanity forward

>> No.9965472

>>9965414
>since it can just self improve to super intelligence
This is a massive assumption and almost totally baseless. If it's so easy to self improve, given human level intelligence, why don't you become a super intelligence right now.

>> No.9965613

>>9963907
This is no more true today than it was 25 years ago.

Why do you let people lie to you behind the facade of "science"? This is pseud shit.

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9965617

I want to clone myself but engineer myself in a way to not have Schizophrenia. At least then I can see what a happy normal me would be like.

>> No.9965697

Biochemist here. There are plenty of changes I would make to the human body. For one, the mutation that causes scurvy (vitamin C deficiency) is just a point mutation. Fix that and you've got the working protein to make vitamic C and you don't need to suck on limes. More than that though, I'd change lifespan to be about 200-300 by lengthening telemeters, and delay puberty until the 60's. I'd make the whole species a bit smaller but boost the brain size a bit to boot. Maybe come out with different models. Some people all roided up for a fight and others to take after myself in intellectual pursuits. Long term I could see efforts to give humans gills and make them more adaptable to settling the water and implementing better DNA repair mechanisms to allow humans to do a bit better under the solar radiation from space. Given a few thousand years of scientific advancement and heavy genetic engineering, it wouldn't be unreasonable for future humans to look nothing like the humans of the current day.

>> No.9965702

>>9965617
but would you really be you without schizophrenia, alexander?

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9966089

>>9964852
>China
of course

>> No.9966091

>>9964611
For that matter, the wealthy can already use IVF techniques to give themselves somewhat better children; the embryos can be screened genetically to make sure the one you implant has no known genetic diseases. Kim & Kanye had this done for their most recent spawn. As more is figured out on how genes relate to intelligence & personality, those traits can be screened for as well. This also neatly avoids the being cucked issue, since the kids are 100% genetically from the parents.

>> No.9966157

>>9965420
>People whine about "idiocracy" because dumb people breed more, but as long as the smart people are fucking smart people we'll have that island of smart people to carry humanity forward
and the dumb people have no say in this? even a slave intervenes in your decisions to some degree, I think that's very obvious even for a piggot like you

>> No.9966288

I can't wait to make futas real

>> No.9966454

>>9963907
200 IQ babies when?

>> No.9966476

>>9965420

you need average intelligence to stay high otherwise smart people will become so rare that they will not accomplish much

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9968515

I will live to see designer baby catgirls in my lifetime yeehaw