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Derivation of the Limits of Sine and Cosine at Infinity
http://www.vixra.org/abs/1806.0082
>>9908199

>> No.9922629

OP is homeless, schizophrenic, self-described serial rapist who threatens to kill children when he gets upset. Also he claimed to have a bunch of implants in his body that magically disappeared without a trace, and he *still* hasn't answered how that wasn't just a hallucination.

>> No.9922637

>>9922629
I tell you, I will go to long ends to see you humbled, and to see your race burned off the face of the earth.

>> No.9922639

>>9922637
I tell u that ur mega gay lmao and that im "implanting" sumthing in ur mom every night if you know what I mean

>> No.9922652

>>9922637
what race? you know nothing about any of us

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>>9922637

>> No.9922669

/r/ing a TL;DR on this anti-science forced meme.

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>>9922637
Awwww did somebody get his feeliewheelies hurt again?

>> No.9922671
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>>9922652
the race of infidels, just like in pic related except with more hate and cruelty.

>> No.9922675

>>9922671
i'm neither a protestant nor a liberal tho

>> No.9922677

>>9922670
Yes I did. It hurts me every time you do it.

>> No.9922680

>>9922637
My race ? I'm jewish ! Cool it down with the antisemitism or I'll have you taken to court !

>> No.9922683

>>9922677
Good.

>> No.9922685
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>>9922671
dumb papist

>> No.9922695

>>9922671
dont you know the catholic church is the antichrist?

>> No.9922701

>>9922683
I think before the end of your life, you have some time to reflect and you will determine that it was not good to write what you wrote, and that making yourself known to me was the worst decision you ever made.

>> No.9922704

>>9922701
I am going to shit on the face of your pope.

>> No.9922719

>>9922701
>making yourself known to me was the worst decision you ever made.
Okay schizo, who am I lmao. Give me the rundown.

>> No.9922721

>>9922701
Choke on a big fat black dick.

>> No.9922738
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9922738

Look at all these infidels in this thread. The wages of sin is death.

>> No.9922740

>>9922738
And yet you're a disgusting homeless person who sleeps in garbage and is not so slowly losing his mind.

>> No.9922742

>>9922740
>slowly

>> No.9922748

>>9922742
>not so slowly

>> No.9922757
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>>9922738
Behold the great warrior angel of god

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>>9922757
I am not the warrior angel of God.

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>>9922757
Behold his divine steed

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>>9922761
Behold his grand chariot

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>>9922763
>>9922761
>>9922719
>>9922683
>>9922721
>>9922757
>>9922740
>>9922629
>>9922639
>>9922670

>> No.9922965

>>9922923
>when you've been so utterly BTFO that all you can do is post empty threats of violence against defenseless children
Your friends and family must be so fucking disappointed in you, jfc.

>> No.9922979

>>9922923
You have no redeeming qualities. Everything about you is disgusting.

>> No.9922984

>>9922965
>implying he has friends

>> No.9922998

>>9922923
happy is me when I seize ur mom and dash her against my dicck

>> No.9923041

>>9922600
Praise The Lord for gracing us with this elegant result from hypercomplex analysis!

>> No.9923044

>>9923041
Quit samefagging, Jon.

>> No.9923050

>>9923044
Seriously though, has he already given us a list of axioms for his [math]\infty[/math], [math]\widehat{\infty}[/math] and [math]\widehat{1}[/math]?

>> No.9923087

>>9922998
only until such time as it takes for the first symptoms of infection to manifest themselves.

>> No.9923104

>>9922600
so, what is the limit of sqrt(n^2+ 2*n) - n if n goes to infinity? using your own assumptions directly, it's inf - inf, so zero. except not really.

>> No.9923113

>>9922965
These are not meant as threats against children, although they plainly are just that. I mean to threaten those whose defenses will be overwhelmed when I destroy that which they sought to nurture. I mean to threaten those who will try to protect their children, and who I will humiliate and violate brutally. Pic related, it is what I will do when you tell your children, "It's ok honey, he's just yelling," and then I tear them from your arms and throw them to the starving dogs.

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>>9923113
pic

>>9923104
Which assumptions? I have stated many times that the shortcut is valid for linear arguments and your countercase is not linear in "n"

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9923121

>I in turn will laugh when disaster strikes you;
>I will mock when calamity overtakes you—

These are the words of the God of Abraham, him who Christians believe is the father Jesus Christ. Is it so hard for you to believe that he is me?

>> No.9923125

>Admits to groping women with zero self awareness of how nuts he sounds
>Threatens to violate children
Dig yourself a deeper hole so the police response is funnier when I send this in.

>> No.9923188

>>9923125
He's in Atlanta and has a criminal record, btw.

>> No.9923738

>>9923125
>the police
People don't give due credit to the role of the religious police in the history of the world.

>> No.9923743

>>9923117
>I have stated many times that the shortcut is valid for linear arguments and your countercase is not linear in "n"
But [math]\sin[/math] and [math]\cos[/math] are also non-linear in [math]n[/math].

>> No.9923790

>>9922600
Can mods please start deleting these threads? There's no reason for this pseud shit to be permanently in the catalog.

>> No.9923809

>>9923738
They would have burned you alive for blasphemy. Btw, when will you stop avoiding the topic of where your hallucinations went?

>> No.9923834

>>9923790
He isn't spamming threads and people often talk about actual math in these theads. This is 4chan, not reddit

>> No.9923841

Reminder that Jonathan Tooker, aka tripname "The Lord", is a hack who scores insanely highly on the crackpot index.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html

>> No.9923843

>>9923834
He is keeping a rolling self-promoting thread of his untrue, garbage work constantly in the catalog. He's a humongous faggot and so are you for defending him.

>> No.9923889

>>9923790
Fuck off. Do you want to go back to race and IQ threads? At least Jon's threads are about actual math and it's a fun game to find flaws in his work.

>> No.9923898

Brainlet OP needs to learn some real complex analysis.

>> No.9923929

>>9923843
>>9923889
There are dozens of threads and no one has to click on this one. Race and IQ threads died because smart people realized that IQ is a lie, not biologically, but why be replaced by fucking robots?

>> No.9923935

>>9922600
oh seriously fuck off with your bullshit

these """papers""" are loaded with buzzwords to make them look impressive for the normies and nothing more

>> No.9923952

>>9923050
>Seriously though, has he already given us a list of axioms for his [math]\infty[/math], [math]\widehat{\infty}[/math] and [math]\widehat{1}[/math]?
No, and he will never do.

>>9923117
>Which assumptions? I have stated many times that the shortcut is valid for linear arguments and your countercase is not linear in "n"
True definitions of convergence don't care about the form of the function, dumbass.

>>9923889
>At least Jon's threads are about actual math and it's a fun game to find flaws in his work.
Indeed, we already have like 10 or 20 different ways to show it but we keep creating new ones as he always changes the definitions to be always right (which generates new contradictions that invalidates even more his "proof").

>> No.9923959

>>9923952
That bugs the shit out of me, Jon is not playing by the rules. In order for his theory to be consistent, he has to give us axioms for his [math]\infinity[/math] and [math]\widehat{\infinity}[/math], he can't just say "it works if you do it the way I do". If he would clearly write out the rules these symbols obey, we have something to work with to prove him wrong.

Bonus points for each time he says "I'm a physicist not a mathematician, so all this stuff is allowed".

>> No.9923963

>>9923959
Damn it, [math]\infty[/math]

>> No.9923979

>>9923959
IMO, it's more annoying when he says "I never said x" even though he clearly said it just a few posts up, and then when you link him to his own post he throws a tantrum and posts some bullshit about killing kids. The schizo honestly has the mind of a spoiled child. Also I'm not entirely convinced that he isn't just a really skillful troll.

>> No.9923983

>>9923959
>Bonus points for each time he says "I'm a physicist not a mathematician, so all this stuff is allowed".
It's become his catchphrase.

>Jon is not playing by the rules.
Indeed, he creates a new or derogates a rule when it suits him. But I laugh seeing how he struggle to bend the rules. Let's see what dumb thing we get from the following.

>>9923121
Ok, explain the following: Using your logic
>>9915943
>>wondering how the fuck you can say ∞−∞=0
>Consider the property of an arbitrary real number X:
>X-(X-1)=1
>Now consider the analytic continuation to the extended reals. It produces the result with which you struggle.
I can say that [math]\cos (x-y)=\cos (x) \cos (y) +\sin (x) \sin (y) [/math], which is a property for an arbitrary pair of real numbers. I can choose the particular value y=pi/2 and get [math]\cos (x-pi/2)=\sin (x)[/math], which is true for an arbitrary real number x. Therefore we can analytically continue this property to the extended reals.
Now, as you also have said in >>9916523, [math]\infty +\pi/2=\infty [/math] hence [math]\infty -\pi/2=\infty [/math].
Combining both results you get that [math]\cos (\infty)=\sin (\infty)[/math], which disproves your calculation. QED.

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>>9923743
I don't use that notation for those functions.

>>9923983
> Therefore we can analytically continue this property to the extended reals
>which disproves your calculation
Cosine is not a function of multiple levels of infinitude. The Taylor series does work right for those kinds of inputs.

>> No.9924493

>>9924483
>Cosine is not a function of multiple levels of infinitude. The Taylor series does work right for those kinds of inputs.
If you use first [math]\cos (x-y)=\cos (x) \cos (y) +\sin (x) \sin (y) [/math] you can define the cosine as "a function of multiple levels of infinitude" without any problem. The only problem is your stupidity.
But, most importantly, why the function f(x)=x can be "a function of multiple levels of infinitude" but cosine can't? Because you say so, that's the only reason.

>> No.9924503

>>9924483
>Cosine is not a function of multiple levels of infinitude
Detractor says: WHY? What even are the "levels of infinitude"? What axioms do your symbols follow?

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>>9924493
>define the cosine as "a function of multiple levels of infinitude" without any problem.
The problem in the Taylor series where you will get undefined powers of infinity

>>9924503
>WHY?
because of the taylor series

>What even are the "levels of infinitude"?
check the references if the explanation in the paper wasn't good for you. Or google hyperreal numbers.

>What axioms do your symbols follow?
the ones the paper

>> No.9924557

>>9924538
>The problem in the Taylor series where you will get undefined powers of infinity
That's bullshit and you know it. The formula [math]\cos (x-y)=\cos (x) \cos (y) +\sin (x) \sin (y) [/math] solves any problem. You just don't want to admit it because it destroy your "proof".

>> No.9924601

>>9924538
Where did your implants go?

>> No.9924604

>>9924538
if you can't explain where your implants went then they were never there in the first place

>> No.9924622

>>9924601
Why do you think I would know where they went?

>> No.9924627

>>9924622
Because they were in your body. How were they able to be extracted without you knowing while you were still awake, and without leaving any surgical evidence such as wounds or scarring?

>> No.9924628

>>9924622
ok since you're playing word games now: how were they removed from your body without you knowing?

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>>9924557

>> No.9924649

>>9924628
>how were they removed from your body without you knowing?
Covertly.

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>>9924557
>>9924643
fixed exponent around eq. (7)

>> No.9924656

>>9924649
While you were awake? And without a surgical incision?

>> No.9924659

Sine and Cosine do not converge, you cannot say they have any particular "limit" at infinity

periodic functions

>> No.9924666

>>9924643
>>9924655
By that logic [math] 7\cos(\infty)=7\hat{1}\cdot \cos(\infty) [/math] is also ill defined because "it involves products of hat infinity and hat 1".

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additional criticism predicted.

>> No.9924725

>>9924659
axiom of infinity

>>9924666
> also ill defined
no, that is stupid. The properties of the identity are defined. Its the products of infinity that don't have definitions.

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oops

>> No.9924741

>>9924731
Actually, that was ok due to the nth power when it it said infinity and one. The products of infinity and one are all raised to the nth power.

>> No.9924757

>>9924719
>>9924725
>When we get multiple powers of the identity, we already have properties of the identity which define the rules. However, we do not have those for hat infinity and that makes the previous countercase fail in the Taylor series.
>no, that is stupid. The properties of the identity are defined. Its the products of infinity that don't have definitions.
So, if I use your equation (4), does that means that [math]\hat{\infty}^n=\hat{\infty}[/math] for every n?

>> No.9924843

>>9924757
>So, if I use your equation (4), does that means that [math]\hat{\infty}^n=\hat{\infty}[/math] for every n?
You tell me, if you define it that way, I will criticize your definitions.

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>>9924719

>> No.9924851

>>9924843
>You tell me, if you define it that way, I will criticize your definitions.
Why? It can be deduced from your equation (4) in >>9924719.

>> No.9924859

Op please kill yourself and spare us the annoyance of your existence

>> No.9924865

>>9924851
>It can be deduced from your equation (4)
That's good. It agrees with how I have proposed to treat transfinite infinity in my "hypercomplex analysis." Check out this other paper where I used this analysis to argue against the Riemann hypothesis
>On The Riemann Zeta Function
>http://www.vixra.org/abs/1703.0073

>> No.9924989

>>9924649
how were they covertly removed? did you spend a really long time on the toilet and someone sent a roto-rooter up the drain?

>> No.9924998

>>9924865
Therefore, should I deduce then that [math]\cos (\infty \cdot \hat{1})=\cos (\hat{\infty})=1=\hat{1}[/math]?

>> No.9925012

>>9924989
>how were they covertly removed?
Do you see how you have entered a rhetorical oxymoron through the definition of "covert?"

>> No.9925027

>>9925012
So you have no idea how they could possibly have been removed, I see.

>> No.9925029

>>9924998
>Therefore, should I deduce then that [math]\cos (\infty \cdot \hat{1})=\cos (\hat{\infty})=1=\hat{1}[/math]?
I don't see a problem with that and I'm only being non-committal because I can't tell if you're trying to rope me into some nonsense.

>> No.9925042

>>9925029
>I don't see a problem with that and I'm only being non-committal because I can't tell if you're trying to rope me into some nonsense.
The only nonsense is in your computations, because now I can use equation (4) of >>9924719 to do the following:
[math] \cos (\infty \cdot \hat{1})=\cos (\hat{\infty})=\cos(1\cdot \hat{\infty})=\cos(1)\hat{\infty} [/math]
Proving that hat 1 and hat infinity should be proportional.

>> No.9925044

>>9925027
I'm more concerned with the one or ones that wasn't or weren't removed. The one or ones that is or are inside me now even as type this, not so shallow in the anal opening as the one which was recently removed. Over the summer, every time my roommate would come home, I would feel the implant start to electrocute my anus. I have problems with feet or shoe implants as well, painful ones. I don't now about them going out, but after I tried to go to Israel in 2017, my anus and chode area became so sore for a week that I assumed someone had tampered with my anus after I nodded off somewhere in my travels. Based on the sensations in my anus, I think it is highly likely that there are implants in there right now, although the shallow one seems to have disappeared.

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>>9925044

>> No.9925095

>>9925042
>Proving that hat 1 and hat infinity should be proportional.
Please show this proof, I don't see it.

While I don't see the proof, that issue you raise is quite like an issue I raised in my Riemann paper regarding the location of the origin of the real part of the complex plane. It was possibly shifted by exactly one unit. I recommend having a look at this:
>On The Riemann Zeta Function
>http://www.vixra.org/abs/1703.0073

>> No.9925118

>>9925095
>Please show this proof, I don't see it.
It's there, in >>9925042 and >>9924998. Two different ways of computing [math]\cos (\infty \hat{1} )[/math] that give results proportional to hat 1 and hat infinity. Are you also blind apart from dense?

>> No.9925126

https://globalnews.ca/news/4111788/julian-assange-communication-cut-by-ecuador/
>Julian Assange’s communication cut by Ecuador over tweet
>Ecuador‘s President Lenin Moreno has described Assange as a stone in his shoe

This stone in the shoe meme became a thing right around the time my feet started hurting. Also, there was "Operation Heel Strike" on 4chan around that time, and the pain was most severe in my heel, and it is not fully abated even to this day.

>> No.9925152

>>9925126
>The whole of 4chan conspired with the government to give an almost homeless, sex offending crackpot foot pains....

>> No.9925186

>>9925152
I was completely homeless at the time.

>> No.9925252

>>9925044
You have syphillis, not schizophrenia. See a doctor and get some antibiotics.

>> No.9925401

>>9925252
I did go to the doctor. I said, "I think I have a thing inside my anus." The doctor put his finger in there. Then he said, "I think you're healthy."

>> No.9925478

>>9925401
Syphillis is often confused with schizophrenia. It's a sexually transmitted disease that's caused by these little microorganisms that burrow around in your tissues. It causes lumps of tissue called chancres all over the body, but especially around the anus/genitals, and you are confusing the tumerous growths for """implants""". When the microorganisms start burrowing around in your brain, they make you fucking crazy like you are now. You probably picked it up from one of your disgusting sexual encounters.