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can scientific revolution born in china, islamic world or Africa if Eurode did not made it?

>> No.9859336

>>9859306
China: yes but will probably look different (ie either no guns or guns get invented much later)
Islamic World: no (only took one sect to fuck everything up for them)
Africa: definitive no

>> No.9859338

>>9859336
>one sect
Are you referencing the massive influence from America then radical Islam as a response as that one sect?

>> No.9859345

China still doesn't believe in medicine despite being supposedly being a modern nation.

>> No.9859349

>>9859306
The islamic world was pretty chill until the mongolians rolled through and literally stomped it back into the stone age, the region never recovered from it.
India and China had been using math that wasn't rediscovered in the west until much later.

>> No.9859406

>>9859338
https://en.qantara.de/content/the-decline-of-islamic-scientific-thought-dont-blame-it-on-al-ghazali

>> No.9859407

>>9859338
>It's America's fault that the muslim world fell from grace longer ago than America has been a nation
the absolute islamic state

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'& Humanities' was a mistake.

>> No.9859669

Maybe if Baghdad hadn't been raped and pillaged by the mongols it would have become the home of the industrial revolution, or at least, developed a parallel phenomena to England's industrialization.

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>>9859306
Scientific evolution has always been periodical in every nation, it was the :
>Sumerians and Assyrians
>Egyptians
>Greeks
>Romans (Chinese and Indians at the same time)
>Arabs
Now it's back to Europeans, since the start of the sicentific revolution it has been 400 years now, while Islamic golden age before it lasted 600 years and for the others almost the same period.

God nows if we can keep it longer or the period will work again

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>>9859669
I've read a book about this, the automata advancments were crazu back then, especially the Iraq river musical robots and elephant and water clock

>> No.9859710

>>9859306
Most likely not.

>> No.9859712

>>9859683
That's dumb. Some of these cultures were isolated. There's no "passing of the torch" going on. Fucking retarded whigs. Learn some actual history instead of your own progressive crank bullshit.

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>>9859669 Fucking shrimp dick Mongolian bastards.

>> No.9859740

>>9859345
>China still doesn't believe in medicine despite being supposedly being a modern nation.
That's not true. China believes in modern medicine, but that's not against selling the "ancient Chinese medicine" like it works to make money out of it.

>> No.9859751

>>9859407
>>9859336
The fall of the Islamic golden age wasn't just because of Al-Ghazali, people didn't pay much attention to him, what he did was just an anti-philosophy philosophy.
The real reason was the Mongol invasion and the Turkish dominance over the middle east.
Type-writers were banned, education for natives in Arabia and Iraq was also banned.
So literally being educated was a crime during Ottoman rule, that's why it is considered to be the dark age of Islam and the middle east as a whole.

>> No.9859775

>>9859712
What cultures you're talking about?
China was the only one that wasn't really that connected to the west and Middle East, the only great thing they contributed was powder.

While every nation trough history took the torch and continued the works, they didn't start from 0

You're stupid qnd I hope you stop spreading your cancerous ignorance

>> No.9859817

>>9859775
>China was the only one that wasn't really that connected to the west and Middle East, the only great thing they contributed was powder.
What about the paper money or sericulture?

>> No.9859828

>>9859817
Wasn't really connected =/= wasn't at all connected

The exchanges of science wasn't as much as those between Europe and Middle East and India