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Anonymous Fri Jul 6 20:27:43 2018 No.9852916 [Reply] [Original]

Any good popsci books worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 6 20:29:55 2018 No.9852924 >Any good popsci books worth reading? Why don't you read them and find out?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 6 20:49:59 2018 No.9852948 Depends on how much you want to learn.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 6 20:54:54 2018 No.9852953 File: 755 KB, 813x644, manga_15set.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9852916 Popsci is cancer. Read primers instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 05:20:52 2018 No.9853386 >>9852916 desu pic related isnt really too pop sci

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 05:43:28 2018 No.9853405 >>9852916 Elegant universe is very good as far as popsci goes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 05:46:07 2018 No.9853409 >>9853386 So what is it, a string theory textbook? Of course it's popsci!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 06:08:58 2018 No.9853437 What is mathematics? One, two, three, ... inifinity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 06:22:41 2018 No.9853444 File: 477 KB, 700x514, 1516907626001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9852953 >basic anime shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 06:25:58 2018 No.9853450 File: 60 KB, 255x326, 1194791850640.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9853444 >I came on 4chan to whine about anime and have no other arguments about anything

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 06:30:32 2018 No.9853454 File: 32 KB, 600x683, spedepasanen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9853450 cool, please tell us more about your cartoons anon

Anonymous Sat Jul 7 06:47:57 2018 No.9853470

>>9853444
>>basic

>I don't know what the difference between speed, travel, velocity, momentum, and kinetic energy is
>hurr durr so lets read a book about string theory but hold the math; science be lit kray kray \>o</ im (pronoun: xer) a pickle

Spoiler: you're learning nothing reading about grad level buzzwords

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 06:50:36 2018 No.9853475 >>9853470 wow, cartoons, velocity and momentum, truly reading material for the intellectual elite

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 07:04:32 2018 No.9853497 File: 3.37 MB, 1360x2765, Required Reading 'fixed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9853475 We have reading lists for people who want the meat and potatoes. Popsci readers don't.

Anonymous Sat Jul 7 07:07:49 2018 No.9853507

>>9853470

>I don't know what the difference between speed, travel, velocity, momentum, and kinetic energy is

most readers interested in popular science books know this

you are acting as if this is some advanced shit and not fucking high school material

there is plenty a person interested in science can learn from reading good popsci books

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 07:09:18 2018 No.9853513 >>9853507 >there is plenty a person interested in science can learn from reading good popsci books No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 07:15:57 2018 No.9853527 >>9853513 Yes. Getting a popular understanding of a subject is the point here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 07:18:48 2018 No.9853533 >>9853470 >hurr durr so lets read a book about string theory but hold the math Unless you have a PhD in physics then yes, holding the math is the only sensible approach to learning about string theory.

Anonymous Sat Jul 7 07:41:03 2018 No.9853562

Can someone please explain time in a satisfying pop sci hot take? I've listened to both physicists and philosophers talk about the subject and it seems like they either don't understand it or that they're embarrassed to say what they really think. Both state that that it isn't really part of the universe like it's some kind of illusion. Being and becoming is an ancient problem, is consciousness/the soul/whatever a fixed entity external to the universe which moves through the universe (layers of fields of potential) on an axis we call time? Clearly time exists independently of people as it necessarily precedes our existence, but I've heard a bunch of physicists say that all moments in time exist simultaneously and our experience of particular moments as serial is just because of our narrow perspective, i.e. consequent of physiology.

http://philosophybites.com/time/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVINOl0Ctfk

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 08:13:36 2018 No.9853577 File: 26 KB, 309x475, 27313221[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9852916 Best popsci book I've ever read by a longshot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 08:35:01 2018 No.9853596 godel escher bach

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 08:43:39 2018 No.9853610 Inflationary Universe by Guth was good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 08:54:06 2018 No.9853618 I wouldn't call it pop science but.. The big picture - Sean Carroll. Excellent philosophy of physics, quantum field theory, some biology, conciousness etc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 09:01:52 2018 No.9853625 File: 65 KB, 1000x853, raptisbooks_2914_00[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9852916

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 11:06:50 2018 No.9853788 >>9852916 (((Brian Greene)))

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 11:08:02 2018 No.9853789 >>9853497 >Numerous Jewish authors and a Bible. This reading chart is a joke right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 16:58:42 2018 No.9854445 >>9853533 Or you could not be an autist and learn about something appropriate for your level.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 22:18:39 2018 No.9854852 File: 3.05 MB, 1360x2765, Required Reading - easy mode.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9853789 Just a more advanced version of this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 22:45:14 2018 No.9854889 >>9853409 Its not a string theory book despite what the title says, iirc he doesnt even bring up string theory until chapter 20 something. Its closer to a history of particle physics leading up to his presentation of string theory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 22:47:02 2018 No.9854896 >>9853562 >Clearly time exists independently of people as it necessarily precedes our existence >clearly No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 7 23:08:21 2018 No.9854929 >>9854896 How could earth have formed without time?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 00:16:10 2018 No.9855041 >>9853625 The Feynman Lectures are real science disguised as popsci to sell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 00:22:06 2018 No.9855053 >>9853497 >New Jerusalem Bible Good to see you took a break from fucking your sister to share with us the books you've seen on book store shelves.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 00:23:13 2018 No.9855062 >>9853625 Based Feynman About to start physics 2 soon. Might complement this with the other books.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 00:24:17 2018 No.9855064 >>9853788 Your /pol/ is leaking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 00:30:34 2018 No.9855082 >>9855053 >took a break from fucking your sister But that's not a protestant bible...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 01:29:03 2018 No.9855174 >>9853577 is sautoy an alright author? symmetry is such a fucking slog, he really likes to waste time on historic parables and travel diaries instead of actually talking symmetry

Anonymous Sun Jul 8 01:37:17 2018 No.9855189

>>9852916
I recently read Everything and More by DFW of /lit/ fame and I really enjoyed it. It's a historical look at the concept of infinity in math and starts with Zeno's paradoxes and ends with a look at Cantor's diagonalization proofs with a look at mathematical philosophy and the incompleteness theorems. DFW's voice really comes through in it and while it was the first thing I've read by him I kind of felt like he was a teacher I had by the end of it. Would recommend.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 02:18:26 2018 No.9855238 >>9854889 peak reading comprehension

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 02:35:51 2018 No.9855271 File: 42 KB, 334x500, 51PXthXhbiL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9853625 this book has reignited my ability to withstand grad school

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 05:14:23 2018 No.9855540 >>9854929 Define time such that it exists outside of human perception.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 05:17:11 2018 No.9855545 >>9855238 Idk what are on about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 05:37:14 2018 No.9855574 >>9855540 Phase, stage, period, etc. It seems like the flow of time is merely human perception, but there's an inherent relationship between matter on an axis of change, i.e. time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 05:48:35 2018 No.9855594 >>9854445 yeah, no string theory is the leading description of physical theory of everything, you are a certified brainlet if you dont have or arent even interested in at least a popsci understanding of it

Anonymous Sun Jul 8 06:28:14 2018 No.9855635
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>>9855594
>string theory is the leading description of physical theory of everything, you are a certified brainlet if you dont have or arent even interested in at least a popsci understanding of it

string theory is irrelevant if you don't know field theory
field theory is irrelevant if you don't know quantum theory
quantum theory is irrelevant if you don't know classical theory

Reading about string theory is like reading about hyperfine structure before you learn about spectral lines. In leddit speak, it's DLC to the main game.

Anonymous Sun Jul 8 06:40:41 2018 No.9855646

>>9855635

>quantum theory is irrelevant if you don't know classical theory

Again, we are talking popsci here. Mathematics of quantum theory is irrelevant if you dont know classical theory. But you better have a conceptual, popsci understanding of quantum theory even if you have no idea what a Lagrangian is. Otherwise you are a certified brainlet.

You should know the names of 8 planets even if you are not an astrophysicist. Similarly, you should know the basic idea behind string theory even if you are not a physicist. Especially if you are interested in natural sciences at least a little.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 06:56:09 2018 No.9855659 File: 223 KB, 2047x788, chadrationalist.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9852916 Rationality: From AI to Zombies

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 07:02:56 2018 No.9855673 File: 398 KB, 1024x1216, Star Proof.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9855659 But utilitarianism did solve all of philosophy.

Anonymous Sun Jul 8 23:15:21 2018 No.9856968

>>9855574
In that sense what is the difference between entropy and time or causality and time? Moreover according to the math there is no uniqueness to any point in time and which way and how it can "flow". The concept of time is not intrinsic in any normal sense to the universe based on our own principles, the arrow of time is very much still under debate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 23:17:50 2018 No.9856970 >>9855646 >But you better have a conceptual, popsci understanding of quantum theory >conceptual understanding of QM The limit of conceptual understanding of QM with no mathematics is "probabilities man".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 8 23:46:09 2018 No.9857013 >>9855646 >You should know the names of 8 planets phiff, I know 9

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 9 10:25:00 2018 No.9857845 >>9852916 I would suggest works by Ian Stewart or Douglas Hofstetter (sp?)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 9 12:41:51 2018 No.9858116 File: 44 KB, 329x500, the science of roman history.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] new /hisci/

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