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>a circle has infinite sides
>a circle has no sides
pick one

>> No.9852339

Neither

>> No.9852341

>>9852339
Whot u mean m8?

>> No.9852348

Define "side."

>> No.9852349

>>9852337
it has one side retard

>> No.9852353

>>9852349
makes sense

>> No.9852354
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>>9852337
>>a circle has infinite sides
>>a circle has no sides
You mean edges?

>> No.9852362

>>9852354
This too

>> No.9852366

>>9852337
retard?

>> No.9852367

>>9852337
>what is a limit curve

>> No.9852385

>>9852337
>pick one
It has two sides, see:http://www.vixra.org/abs/1806.0082

>> No.9852387
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>>9852337
it has two
>inside
>outside

>> No.9852390

>>9852337
Both

>> No.9852392

>>9852362
An edge can be thought of as a boundary, and as such a circle cannot contain infinite boundaries
>A circle has 0 edges

>> No.9852395

>>9852337
That's a disk, which is not the same as a circle

>> No.9852396

>>9852337
It depends on how you define the circle
If a circle is a disk it has 2 sides
If it's a curve then it also has 2 sides
But if it's the limit of an n-sided polygon then it's 8

>> No.9852415

it has one side but it's like a curvy side

>> No.9852441

>>9852396
To define a circle to be a disk is like defining a squirrel to be an elephant. A circle is the boundary of a disk, just like God intended, and just like a squirrel is, uh, nevermind.
A "side" is a line segment where two different faces meet. The circle does have two faces, but no line segments, so it has no sides.
Since a circle has no sides, it has no infinite side in particular.
If you did allow single points to count as degenerate line segments, then the circle would still have no infinite sides, since every side would be a single point, hence finite.

>> No.9852444

>>9852441
>infinite points
>Points have no side
I like this argument
You could define a circle to be sitting within a disk though. I just wasn't very specific in my original post

>> No.9852450

>>9852337
Or, be a sane man, and come to the logical conclusion. True "circles" do not exist. They are a math construct only, not a part of reality.

I repeat.

A circle is a math construct, it does not exist in reality.

>> No.9852452

>>9852444
Points are a math construct and do not exist,,, either.

>> No.9852460

>>9852444
>infinite points
>Points have no side
Interesting summary.
I was thinking something like Euclidean Geometry here, because of the concept of circle and side and stuff already seemingly taken for granted. In this restricted setting points are certainly taken to be single things, none of which is infinite. If you want to take your points to be infinite, then by all means, but it is no longer Euclidean.
As for "points have no side" pretty much the same comment applies. Even if a single point lying around in the plane all by itself can be considered a line segment, there is only one face around it and no two different faces that meet. Thus it does not have any side.

>> No.9852462

>>9852452
If you're going to be super pedantic about it sure they're just abstract representations of the real world
To think any different would be an instance of reification

>> No.9852466

>>9852450
True sanity is a psychiatric construct only, it does not exist in your head.

>> No.9852497

>>9852349
It has two sides, retard.

>> No.9852676

>>9852392
It can if the boundry has a length of 0 or 1-0.999...

>> No.9852701

>>9852497
The inside and the outside?

>> No.9852789

>>9852466
tell me then

If a circle is circumference 1, what is it's radius exactly?

If a circle is radius 1, what is it's circumference exactly?

Hmmm, methinks they do not exist exactly.

>> No.9852800

>>9852789
or from another perspective

if you know exactly the circles center, then you can never know exactly the circumference, and vice versa

hint. no 2d objects actually exist in reality.

>> No.9852984

>>9852337
nice bait

>> No.9852989

>>9852701
Front and back.

>> No.9852994
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9852994

The outside is background.
The inside is loss.

>> No.9853028

A side is defined to be the 1 thing a circle has infinitely many of.

>> No.9854601

the circle is the line, not the figure (which is a disk) you brainlets, didnt anyone here do geometry problems involving circles to know that?

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>>9852337
[math]b_1(S^1) = 1[/math] so 1 side.

>> No.9854902

>>9852337

I see two sides.

> Thats what happens when I'm told what to do...

>> No.9855496

>>9852337
>A side is a segment of a line
>A line is a circle through infinity
>A shape has finitely many circles

>> No.9855500

>>9852387
this, except without the annoying image

>> No.9855710

>>9852337
zero = 1 & infinte

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>>9852337

It has a left side and a right side. Fuck you guys are retarded.

>> No.9856216

>>9852337
The upside is that it has infinite sides
The downside is that they're infinitely small.

>> No.9856581

>>9852337
infinitely greater than a square

>> No.9856984

>>9852337
A circle has {lim:n->inf} n-sides.

>> No.9856985

Circles don't actually exist faggot.

>> No.9857033

Both, but I'm gonna go for infinite.

>> No.9857038

I'm actually gonna change my answer.
a*infinity = infinity
a*0=0
So both.

>> No.9857039

>>9857038
So:
a = infinity/infinity
a = 0/0
0/0 = infinity/infinity
0 = infinity

>> No.9858014

>>9856985
he drew one right there tho

>> No.9858023

>>9857038
>>9857039
1/1=1
2/2=1
so 1=2
oWo

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>>9852337
I lost my sides looking at your vile peasantry, OP. I pity such low intellect human beings, if I shalt even consider you being a brother of me race, and I feel genuinely sorry for you that you may never taste the rogue beauty and elegance of true intelligence. This thread spits on the graves of every great being that did something beneficial to humanity.

Wabba Labba Dick Duck u Ni99er.

>> No.9858366

Circles don't exist

>> No.9858490

>>9852337
The second one. If a circle was just an infinite-sided polygon, the pi=4 meme would be true.

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>>9852450
>>9852789
>>9852800
>>9856985
>>9858366

The only true answer is there are no true circles.

>> No.9858676

>>9858490
But anon, so many proofs rely upon the "infinite-sided polygon" this isn't funny. Are you saying Miles Mathis was right all along?

>> No.9858690

>>9852337
both are true because 0=infinity

>> No.9858694

>>9858690
see >>9857039 and >>9858023

>> No.9858741
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9858741

A circle is any shape with more than 359 sides.

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>>9858741

>> No.9858767

>>9852387
How do you distinguish the two? How can you bisect a point?

>> No.9858930

>>9852337
Circle is 2D
It has a front and back
Therefore a Circle, and all other 2D shapes, have two sides