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[Anonymous No.9846112]

This is the general for all things both healthcare and medicine related.

I'll ask you guys your thoughts on my favorite interview question I got.

As a physician, you see a 12 year old girl with Aspergers who is pregnant. The parents want the daughter to get the abortion. The girl does not what do you do? Do you give the abortion?

Past thread: >>9825876

[Anonymous No.9846133]

>tfw your left middle cerebral artery has a kink in it

cool, wonder how long until I stroke

I hope I live long enough to improve how we diagnose and treat strokes

[Anonymous No.9846178]

Is life expectancy for Crohn's disease lower than normal people? What does everyone think of the MAP vaccine that is supposed to cure crohns? I was diagnosed with severe Crohn's colitis, so apparently i have Crohn's but it has stayed in my colon, worst on the descending colon. Could it move into my illeium or if it was going to, it would have by now? Small bowel sounds like a nightmare, ditto with ostomies.

[Anonymous No.9846188]

>>9846133
Arent there lil robots to help with that?
Or stints perhaps?

[Anonymous No.9846224]

>>9846188
Actually it looks to be a fenestration of the left side middle cerebral artery, present for at least 6 years.

and there's no conclusive evidence if it's correlated with high rates of aneurysm or not, or even good data on overall prevalence.

[Anonymous No.9846249]

>>9846112
if i was in your situation, here is how i would proceed... before even considering the questions you've outlined, i want to know who got this handicapped 12-yr-old girl pregnant. and i want proof from the parents that there is a police investigation open regarding same - if not, i will call the police myself.

after all of that is taken care of, i can consider the dilemma you've presented. i'd do everything i could to convince the parents to change their mind, but ultimately, as guardians of this child they are able to force her to have the child. i would make a case to social services that in this case forcing the child to have ... a child... constitutes child abuse and she should be separated from the parents...

[Anonymous No.9846278]

Where are my /pharmacybros/?

[Anonymous No.9846285]

ok so apparently cerebral vascular structure is just completely fucking unorganized and it's common for it to do dumb shit like twist and turn

that was an interesting but poor use of 6 hours

[Anonymous No.9846311]

>>9846249

Abortion can never be necessary, because it is pure killing. -Mother Teresa

She was right. That's what you don't know. Also, a person who, in order to prevent child abuse, recommends an abortion. The lack of self-awareness. The ironing is delicious.

[Anonymous No.9846519]

>>9846112
Is pathology as a degree a meme? Are there job opportunities outside of the CDC that you can find?

[Anonymous No.9846767]

What's the scariest fact you learned in med school or clinical practice?

[Anonymous No.9846791]

>>9846112
>The girl does not what

Her body, her choice :^)

[Anonymous No.9846794]

>>9846767
Idk about scariest but this was a recent one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fournier_gangrene

[Anonymous No.9846836]

>>9846794
>1 in 62,500

pffffffffft

i was hoping for something along the lines of pituitary adenoma

[Anonymous No.9846840]

Incoming sophomore premed fag. General advice?

[Anonymous No.9846854]

>>9846178

yes you'll die faster if you have regular inflammations in your colon lol

>>9846767
most med students are clueless , especially the women are some sort of robots or actually clueless just coasting by
you'll almost never meet a med student who is actually talented
100% are just trained monkeys

>>9846519
its a monkey degree, you memorize 40-50 things, and another 200-250 peculiarities, and you are set for life until machine learning replaces you , which might be soon or never

if you like looking at pictures this isn't so bad, but it has 0 prestige and pathologists are the lowest lol

>>9846840

making connections with students from higher semesters is the most important first thing you need to do when you become a med student

[Anonymous No.9846871]

>>9846854
>most med students are clueless , especially the women are some sort of robots or actually clueless just coasting by
>you'll almost never meet a med student who is actually talented
>100% are just trained monkeys
haha, that doesn't surprise me. I just wanted some insight into "oh. shit." moments that clinicians have. I assumed that you were taught useful and insightful things in medical school, but perhaps that comes from elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.9846973]

>>9846854
can you expand on why it's useful to make connections to upperclassmen?

[Anonymous No.9847015]

>>9846249
the parents are the ones that want to force the child to have the abortion, not the birth

[Anonymous No.9847021]

Perhaps an engineering thread is a better place to ask but...
thoughts on Biomedical Engineering?
Was thinking of changing majors

[Anonymous No.9847023]

>>9846854
>especially the women are some sort of robots or actually clueless just coasting by
this is why Organic Chemistry is considered such a difficult course, it's one of the few that requires actual thought process

[Anonymous No.9847050]

>>9846249
I agree i said similar to the first part to cover my base.

however, the parents want the abortion if they didn't i think it would be easier like you said. However, I think it's harder to justify doing an unwanted surgery then abstaining for the situation.

>>9846311
I think the abortion is less to prevent child abuse. I think the abuse aspect was added simply to see if one would address the legal aspect.

However, as a doctor it's not my job even as a christian to use mother teresa a religious icon to push certain medical decisions. I wouldn't perform the operation however I would be doing the patient a disservice by not letting her know her options.

Even if you believe it's a sin you should believe that it's ultimately the individuals choice to sin? Isn't that part of why god gave us choices.

>>9847015
yeah what do you think?

For the record this school rejected me so whatever I said wasn't right

[Anonymous No.9847057]

What's a good place to study neuropsychology?
Is oneirology a meme?

[Anonymous No.9847146]

>>9847050
I wouldn't follow through with preforming a procedure with any unwilling individual (unless consent can't be given and the individual's life is in danger), the decision to have an abortion or any invasive procedure must be voluntary and independent
the only time a parent's decision on the matter is warranted is if the pregnant child's life is in danger due to a medical emergency
following the encounter i would file a report with the CPS

[Anonymous No.9847174]

>>9846112
Are my mercury amalgam fillings making me a retard? I have four. I used to be ambitious and really smart. Now I can’t hold a thought, have no libido, and frequently get tired. Should I get them removed?

[Anonymous No.9847286]

>>9825876 (OP)
Who in your opinion is the world's greatest medicine man? The most highly-skilled, knowledgeable in breadth and depth of many medical subfields, most talented, most intelligent, most degrees and qualifications-earned ultimate doctor?

[Anonymous No.9847316]

>>9847174
the amount of Mercury that leeches from dental fillings is miniscule, its less than if you had a diet high in fish like Japanese people.

[Anonymous No.9847476]

>>9846112
She's twelve. By law in my country even if she didn't have Asperger's, her parents would have the say in the decision as she's not considered capable of makinga decision. They sign all the papers and what not. Add the Asperger's and she might be considered irreconcilable (not sure bout that translation) by the law. So yeah, I'd give the abortion, but I'd do anything in my power to persuade the girl to change her mind.
>>9846133
>>9846224
Yikes. Well at least you know something is up and can react ASAP if you experience symptoms.
>>9846178
Depends how often you have exacerbations and whether you get complications.
>>9846519
Depends on the counrty you're in I guess.
>>9846767
>That cells in your body regularly get malignant, but imune system gets rid of them. Basically you're at the mercy of your T-cells.
>Anything in infectious desease. Like you can fucking catch anything deadly from anywhere.
100% there's more stuff that made me go "fuck" , but I just can't remember them.
>>9847021
Have no clue what that degree is.
>>9847057
These both seem more on the humanitarian side of sciences as in both you don't have some kind of anatomical or psysiological substrate. Don't know if I'm making sense.
>>9847174
Don't think it's from your fillings bro.
>>9847286
Who's that? Dr.Oz? xD

[Anonymous No.9847486]

>>9847476
>These both seem more on the humanitarian side of sciences as in both you don't have some kind of anatomical or psysiological substrate.
So is it useless?

[Anonymous No.9847864]

Best books for any given subject in medicine?
Currently studying and our assigned texts are good enough but I'd like to know if there are god-tier texts I havent heard of

[Anonymous No.9847870]

>>9847476
>Yikes. Well at least you know something is up and can react ASAP if you experience symptoms.

well in retrospect i'm not sure (i mean the images aren't TOF / MIP so very hard to read and i'm not a neuroradiologist, just someone curious). but there's not really any clinical connections proven and rates of stroke are incredibly low in my age group

[Anonymous No.9847882]

>>9847864
I don't know man, what have you heard of?

[Anonymous No.9847904]

>>9847882
The other day someone recommended me Fundamentals of Pathology by Sattar and I liked its compact yet plentiful content.

I'm asking because we used Guyton's for physiology last semester, and while it fulfills its purpose, I found it lackluster in some aspects, and I don't mind reading dense books as long as I get a strong understanding

[Anonymous No.9847913]

UK here. White coats are gay and make you look like a biomedical scientist that sucks off pipette tips. That is all.


>>9846112
>As a physician, you see a 12 year old girl with Aspergers who is pregnant. The parents want the daughter to get the abortion. The girl does not what do you do? Do you give the abortion?
12-years-old and mentally handicapped. Probably not competent enough to understand the implications of childbirth, what raising a child requires and would be a strain on other services. I'd talk to her and ascertain her understanding of the whole debacle anyway, how she thinks she'll manage, who the father is, if there's any outside pressure from him to keep the baby.

Would probably try to convince the girl to terminate the pregnancy. I'd also refer her to counseling services who can talk to her and her parents about everything. They'd probably do a better job and have more time convincing her too. Parents have the ultimate decision tho, since she isn't competent and therefore can't consent.

And I'd also bring social services into the picture because she's under the age of consent and there's potential for criminal proceedings if the father is a few years older.

[Anonymous No.9847918]

>>9846112
Should I pick plastic or ortho if I want to be comfy in the long run?

[Anonymous No.9848068]

>>9847918
First get into med school/don't fail your steps before worrying about ortho or plastics.

[Anonymous No.9848069]

>>9847918
if you're thinking plastic or ortho just get into oral surgery and open a private practice, 80% of the procedures are wisdom tooth removals
interned under an private practice oral surgeon that could remove 4 wisdom teeth in 15-20 minutes and each procedure that took that long was around $4-600.
When business is good he's doing upwards of 20 procedures a day
so making 6 figures in a month (assuming you market yourself to all the local dentists and orthodontists) is really easy and it's super comfy if you don't deal with medicaid patients.

[Anonymous No.9848087]

>>9848069
What makes Medicaid patients annoying?

[Anonymous No.9848247]

>>9848087
medicaid patients tend to act up while under general anesthetic, or while coming off of anesthesia likely because they live in poorer and likely more traumatic environments (which can and does influence behavior under the anesthesia admitted in just about every oral surgery procedure (the kind that doesn't require you to be hooked up to life support)), such to a point that the oral surgeon I interned under never accepted any patients on medicaid over the age of 30 and would likely not deal with anyone on medicaid if he didn't fuck up his image and ostracize himself from some of the dental community

[Anonymous No.9848249]

>>9846767
In private practice, patient compliance to prescriptions is around 50%

[Anonymous No.9848254]

>>9847904
For physiology try the Boron, my go to book for an integrative approach to systems

[Anonymous No.9848559]

>>9848247
Oh, you just meant that they are typically poor roudy people, or old people that are annoying to treat.

[Anonymous No.9848611]

my exams in the next three weeks
>radiology
>immunology
>clinical chemistry
>pathology
>pharmacology
>microbiology
number of days i've studied
>like 10 in the last 3 months
number of dexedrine in my disposal
>about 30

they're all multiple choice, you think i have a chance. i got 135 on an online iq test from /sci/

[Anonymous No.9848615]

How did i do /med/?

[Anonymous No.9848617]

>>9848611
And my IQ is over 9000 faggot. Nice blogposting dickhead

[Anonymous No.9848623]

>>9848617
oh come on you didn't mean that, good luck mate

[Anonymous No.9848625]

>>9846854
People with IBD have are more likely to have a routine colonoscopy and actually have a lower chance of malignancy in the colon.

[Anonymous No.9848629]

Is it alright to ask for medical help? I had spontaneous bleeding, I think its due to high blood pressure

[Anonymous No.9848690]

>>9848615
You got a score of 131 and in the 99th percentile. It says right there, you dolt.

[Anonymous No.9848749]

>>9848615
well done my friend you did amazing. What's your school list looking like?

I hope your research is decent too

[Anonymous No.9848980]

>>9848611
your fucked. At this point I would go full blown damage control and try to get down all the major concepts for everything

[Anonymous No.9849161]

>>9848615
Sheeit I scraped by with a 512, though I'm alright with it because I just want to get into my state school

[Anonymous No.9849273]

>>9846278
former pharmacybro, going into medicine now. I'm from Canada, and I found pharmacy to be overwhelmingly female. LIke 2:1 F:M ratio with many of the guys being gay. I also didn't like working in a pharmacy

>>9848615
absolutely fucking stellar m8. I got a 511 and was like 86th percentile I think. We are all brainlets in your presence

[Anonymous No.9849280]

>>9849273
>>9849161
>>9848749
>>9848690
not actually mine, is my undergrad senior in my lab's, she's brilliant though. 4.0 GPA and tons of volunteer/working experience. she wont believe me when i say she can go literally anywhere.

[Anonymous No.9849286]

>>9846188
>Arent there lil robots to help with that?

[Anonymous No.9849524]

I'm a retard that know nothing about medicine, what kind of major checkups should I do monthly in order to make sure that I'm healthy and what are some huge health benefits that improved your life after studying medicine, I mean everybody knows the nutrition, exercise, sleep meme...

[Anonymous No.9849537]

>>9847486
I wouldn't say useless, but harder to study and might be full of misconceptions. But you know if that's what you like go for it.
>>9847870
I cared for a 26 year old with a massive intracerebral hemorrhage in an ICU internship, so you never know. NOW ANON DON'T TAKE THIS AS A THREAT I'M JUST TALKING HERE. Also has a doctor read your images or that's solely your interpretation?
>>9847918
Don't pick anything surgical if you want to be comfy.
>>9848629
From where? Also you know, did you meassure your BP?

[Anonymous No.9849547]

>>9849524
> what kind of major checkups should I do monthly
I wouldn't say monthly and aren't you supposed to have a GP check up every year after you turn 20? We get those here and it includes a full blood pannel, ECG, BP measurement and a full physical. These are enough to screen for the most frequent conditions.
>what are some huge health benefits that improved your life after studying medicine
Fucking nothing, lol. If anything my health has gotten worse...

[Anonymous No.9849557]

>>9848615
inspect element/10

[Anonymous No.9849655]

>>9849537
>from where?
Three bursts of bleeding from my nose, twice while I was eating. What seems abnormal about this is the amount of blood compared to normal nose bleeds.
My blood pressure was 133/80.

[Anonymous No.9849821]

>>9848625

are you retarded? if your bowels are regularly inflammated you will die faster on than if they weren't


>>9846871

you are taught useful things in med school, however most of the things that matter you pick up after med school when you actually practise , learning by doing

>>9847023

organic chemistry is just memorizing the system and then applying it, not really all that difficult , it's just a lot of work

>>9846973

they can tell you which classes are worth attending to and which aren't, they can give you access to their exam questions from last year, they will most likely be 1 or more years ahead of you, so if you are job hunting later on down the line and have a good relationship with them you will profit a lot from it

i literally skipped so many classes and practicals because they were a complete waste of time ; this is by far the most important and useful advice you will get , even if you suck at making friends or are a friendless loser in general (like i am),

make friends from upper classes (preferrably 1-2 years above you max), this is much more useful than having friends in the same class btw


>>9849524

you should check your posture not just the posture of your spine but also your legs , knees, feet and so on, many problems can be avoided if you pay attention to these things and they can also be corrected conservatively (without surgery) , make sure the shoes you buy are fitting

one of the biggest weakness in the human body is that joint capsules can not be replaced or regenerated, once they break or fail you will suffer from arthritis , this can only be avoided if you put intermittent stress on the joint (lifting weights a couple of times per week is actually ideal for tihs shit)

[Anonymous No.9849838]

How do I get an anal fissure healed? It is 5 years old from bile acid diarrhea and only seems to worsen. Also is it bad to shit up a pool of light-colored blood for one time? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.9849864]

>>9846767
Med students and thus most doctors have had all but the most rudimentary problem-solving capabilities stamped out of them long before they start practicing. At that point, physicians are just exceptionally-trained retards.

[Anonymous No.9849915]

>>9849821
>If your bowels are regularly inflammated you will die faster on than if they weren't

Why

[Anonymous No.9849933]

>>9849915

"Inflammation-associated cancer development in digestive organs: mechanisms and roles for genetic and epigenetic modulation". Gastroenterology. doi:10.1053/j.gastro.2012.07.009. PMID 22796521.
"Crosstalk between DNA Damage and Inflammation in the Multiple Steps of Carcinogenesis". Int J Mol Sci. doi:10.3390/ijms18081808. PMID 28825631.
The emerging role of epigenetic modifiers in repair of DNA damage associated with chronic inflammatory diseases. Mutation Research/Reviews in Mutation Research. DOI: 10.1016/j.mrrev.2017.09.005
"Cancer-related inflammation" Nature. doi:10.1038/nature07205. PMID 18650914.

Well, for one, inflammation plays a driving role in as much as 1/4 of human cancer cases.

"Inflammatory bowel disease and colon cancer". Recent Results in Cancer Research. Recent Results in Cancer Research. doi:10.1007/978-3-642-03503-6_6. PMID 21822822.

Chronic bowel inflammation is a significant risk factor for development of colorectal cancer.

[Anonymous No.9849953]

>>9849864

well you are not wrong, but you can't actually pass med school without grinding hard

[Anonymous No.9849970]

>>9849933
people with IBD are monitored much more closely than normal people so they actually die from colorectal less often. They get colonoscopies every 1-2 years which isn't even close to enough time for polyps to do anything to you.

[Anonymous No.9849978]

>>9849864

>Med students and thus most doctors have had all but the most rudimentary problem-solving capabilities stamped out of them long before they start practicing. At that point, physicians are just exceptionally-trained retards.

To be honest, most doctors do not need to do real problem solving unless something very much unexpected (read: bad) happens. And if it does, the wisest thing is usually to refer to a specialist department in a hospital. Routine is good, you dont want your doctor to go all Dr. House on you..

[Anonymous No.9850014]

>>9849970

so what? regular inflammation of the bowel still increases your chances to get colorectal cancer
even if you are more tightly supervised

[Anonymous No.9850021]

>>9850014
You said more likely to die faster which is wrong in the case of people with Crohn's, as they are regularly monitored unlike controls

[Anonymous No.9850025]

>>9846178
I have crohns throughout my entire small bowel. It's not great but at least i don't shit myself. I have pissed myself once though when inflamed bowel was irritating my bladder.

[Anonymous No.9850028]

>>9846854
I graduated without ever meeting a single person from another year socially, i couldn't be fucked. Never once posed an issue for me.

[Anonymous No.9850035]

>>9847023
Not really, i know a few chemistry phds who are the definition of regurgitators.

[Anonymous No.9850042]

>>9848559
He's talking shit, literally so much nonsense it's likely he's a LARPer.

[Anonymous No.9850046]

>>9848980
I passed the first 2 years of med school with a weekend of revision before each year's exams. No exaggeration at all. A bit of reasoning can take you a long way.

[Anonymous No.9850048]

>>9850021
> imagine being this dense
Getting cancer significantly reduces your rate of survival even if you're treated with a high standard of care, especially if the risk factors don't go away.

[Anonymous No.9850049]

>>9849655
That BP really isn't that high. If it hasn't happened for a while i wouldn't be concerned but if it was recent or happens again go to your GP.

[Anonymous No.9850052]

>>9850048
Not if caught in either an early or precancerous stage you moron.

[Anonymous No.9850060]

>>9850048
Polyps are removed during colonoscopies... And if they find dysplasia, they might just remove the colon so it doesn't matter anyway

[Anonymous No.9850076]

>>9850060
He's right but for totally the wrong reasons. IBD decreases life expectancy midly due to increased cardiovascular disease, strokes, dvts, PEs etc. Lifelong steroids also cause bodily stress, thin bones and other ailments.

[Anonymous No.9850084]

>>9850052
If stage I colon cancer is caught, the 5 year survival rate is 92%. Good, but that's lower than 100% colon cancer survival from someone who doesn't have it.

[Anonymous No.9850126]

>>9848615
Does getting a very high or perfect score on the MCAT mean you will become the ultimate doctor?

[Anonymous No.9850132]

>>9850084
No group has a 100% survival rate, even the healthy. Nor do colonoscopies detect stage 1, most of the work are precancerous growths and polyps.

[Anonymous No.9850133]

>>9850132
>polyps
So you mean to tell me that there are people that actually have coral growing inside their ass?

[Anonymous No.9850141]

>>9850126
No, i did hugely well on the MCAT but medicine is very cliquey and a lot about all getting signed off in groups doing extra-curricular things, giving opportunities to friends, course organisation done through facebook and so vital information only shared by friends.

I was a graduate and married so not interested in hanging out with 18 year olds and so i often struggled just knowing what i was meant to be doing at any given point.

[Anonymous No.9850157]

>>9849547
>health has gotten worse
How is this possible? I'm into the field just to make sure that I'm healthy!

[Anonymous No.9850232]

>>9850157
Time and stress. Get ready for not drinking water all day and missing lunches. Consultants are morons in terms of the bizarre things they do to demonstrate effort.

[Anonymous No.9850336]

>>9848980
>>9850046
I'm not this guy but pretty much this happened for my first two years too. Two days in now, it's doable with a shit note, I think.

Also, a question. How do anti-nuclear antibodies even exist? It doesn't make sense because how would they even get there? I also can't find an explanation, it's pretty much "it exists lol".

[Anonymous No.9850349]

Just got accepted into med school here in europe. Can't wait to see what a meme it actually is.

[Anonymous No.9850393]

>>9850349
Whereabouts and do you like muslims?

[Anonymous No.9850394]

>>9846112
I prefer this doctor

[Anonymous No.9850395]

>>9850393
Finland. No, I despise them.

[Anonymous No.9850405]

>>9850395
>Finland
>I despise them

[Anonymous No.9850418]

>>9850395
Ok that's good because it's one of the few countries not conpletely overrun by them. I plan on emigrating to be a doctor elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.9850511]

>>9849655
It doesn't seem that high desu. Maybe you have fragile capillaries and combined with the little high BP you got the nose bleed. Measure you bp in the morning and before you go to sleep for a week. If it's within normal limits you're ok.
>>9849838
These don't heal, dude. Surgery is your option.
>Also is it bad to shit up a pool of light-colored blood for one time?
Pooping blood is always bad, but I'm guessing hemorrhoids, so maybe not that bad?
>>9850157
This >>9850232 also I started drinking more.


Can we take a second to appreciate Romania's emergency system SMURD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMURD Seems efficient as fuck and it's founder dr.Raed Arafat is considered a hero. I wish it was like this in my country.
t. not a Romanian

[Anonymous No.9850528]

>>9850511
Anal fissures heal all the time. I saw a lot on gastroenterology and most of the time we'd say see how you get on and they would never tear again. Depends on the size of course.

[Anonymous No.9850610]

>>9850076
That is true. I think. That I read that the drop is a few years on average, which isn't the end of the world if true. I will take living only to 79 instead of 83 if I have Crohn's. It beats dying of some complication like short bowel or sepsis at 30 or something.

[Anonymous No.9850638]

>visit /sci/ for the firts time ever today
>click on this thread
>seems interesting a few posts in, so i click on the previous thread
>some guy mentions teratoma
>google it
>click on images
>see this

WTF LADS
"teratoma removed form uterus of 42 yo woman in Omaha Nebraska"
I'm gonna have nightmares now
Look at that thing
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.9850717]

>>9849273
I don't understand why pharma exists as a career. It's 4 years of rather rigorous schooling for making 80K a year as a glorified cashier. What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.9850725]

>>9850717
Comfort. I was going into medicine until i volunteered at a hospital and realized i dont like being in anxiety causing situations, and a hospital does that to me. Made me go into research instead, and ive never regret it once. I cant imagine working at a hospital everyday, or dealing with the general population everyday for work, but thank you all for doing it.

[Anonymous No.9850728]

>>9850717
>making 80K a year as a glorified cashier
exactly that

[Anonymous No.9850731]

>>9850638
you are a 12 yo girl right?

[Anonymous No.9850733]

>>9850731
are you implying that only a 12 yo girl would be freaked out by that thing?

[Anonymous No.9850734]

>>9850717
>exactly that
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/pharmacist-salary-SRCH_KO0,10.htm

"""80k""", more than the average CS bro

[Anonymous No.9850736]

>>9850728
121k median

[Anonymous No.9850740]

>>9850349
How long is yuropoor medical training?

[Anonymous No.9850771]

>>9850733
and a low testosterone faggot

[Anonymous No.9850802]

Questions: why are so many urologists Indians? They seem to be way over-represented in this medical field compared to any other I've seen.

[Anonymous No.9850828]

>>9850042
what's nonsensical about it?

[Anonymous No.9851065]

I'm ready to kill myself, /med/ics.

20s, male, vegan diet for the last 4 years. Slightly overweight, partially active but mostly sedentary (lift usually once or twice a week, plus pick-up sports):
>diagnosed with TMD a few years ago
>live in Canada so doc gives no fucks
>Head constant aches at crown and behind the eyes
>whole right side is tensed up, losing mobility in my shoulder, and is noticeably weaker
>pain in lower back prevents me from sleeping
>lack of sleep (or maybe just the pain) has me in a constant daze all the time

>losing track of time for hours
> zone out in the car and worried I am going to get into an accident
>Can't read books for more than twenty minutes before getting a headache
>Hurts to think or concentrate

Advil sometimes helps, but not lately. Coffee, too, but I don't like drinking coffee.

I am B12 deficient based on my bloodwork, but none of what I've read has suggested the symptoms would be nearly as severe if that's what was causing it.

I've looked at everything - TMD, sleep apnea, MS, magnesium deficiency, B12 deficiency, iron deficiency, depression, fibromyalgia, etc. My doc has been dragging his feet and just likes to suggest I go to physio or send me for x-rays. He suggested the whole physical activity meme a long time ago but the problem has only worsened since I took him up on that.

Do I go to another doctor? I just need a diagnosis at this point. He's adamant that because I'm in my 20s nothing could be wrong with me, but even if it's just depression or an anxiety disorder I don't know that I can do another year of this. I just want to know how to get the help I need.

[Anonymous No.9851534]

>>9850528
Surgeons told us chronic fissures don't heal, because they're consisted from connective tissue which tears easily because it lacks elasticity. Just quoting my tutors though, literally have 0 experience with this.
>>9850638
Yup, they're pretty nasty.
>>9850740
6 years in most countries I think.
>>9851065
I think I wrote to you in a previous /med/ thread. I'm also in the early stages of this, I only get pain in the temporomandibular joints without spreading and stiffness. It's a shitty condition and last year I started taking meassures to threat it. Turns out I don't have many options. A doctor suggested putting on braces and correcting my bite as I have traumatic occlusion, but only after I get all my wisdom teeth out. And that takes time too. The guy that was supposed to take them out has a busy schedule and just postpones me all the time. He also suggested keeping a regimo of not biting into any food and should keep away from eating hard stuff like nuts and crackers, but that paradoxally made things worse. When I stopped chewing gum there was a significant improvement, so you can try that.
>suggest I go to physio
Neurology consultant actually said it worked well for the temporomandibular joints. Why not give it a try?

[Anonymous No.9851536]

>>9850511
>Can we take a second to appreciate Romania's emergency system SMURD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMURD Seems efficient as fuck and it's founder dr.Raed Arafat is considered a hero. I wish it was like this in my country.
>t. not a Romanian

Can we actually have a discussion about this?

[Anonymous No.9851538]

>>9851065
Forget about the vegan shit and start eating right.

[Anonymous No.9851574]

>>9850740
6 years. Split into 3 years of theory, 3 years of practice.

[Anonymous No.9851739]

>>9846311
In 2013, in a comprehensive review[6] covering 96% of the literature on Mother Teresa, a group of Université de Montréal academics reinforced the foregoing criticism, detailing, among other issues, the missionary's practice of "caring for the sick by glorifying their suffering instead of relieving it, … her questionable political contacts, her suspicious management of the enormous sums of money she received, and her overly dogmatic views regarding, in particular, abortion, contraception, and divorce". Questioning the Vatican's motivations for ignoring the mass of criticism, the study concluded that Mother Teresa's "hallowed image—which does not stand up to analysis of the facts—was constructed, and that her beatification was orchestrated by an effective media relations campaign" engineered by the Catholic convert and anti-abortion BBC journalist Malcolm Muggeridge.[7]

Mother Teresa is pretty deranged if you ask me I would not base anything on her.

[Anonymous No.9851809]

med school is a fucking joke.

All the exams I've had in the last three years are multiple choice, at this point I don't even need to study

[Anonymous No.9851821]

>>9851065
vegan diest are not healthy/ sure youre getting lots of micronutrients but that's not the ful picture. even if on the surface you're getting enough 'protein' you're still probably not. you're not gettign any collagen, so your face and connective tissue aren't being regenrated and are slowly breaking down. that;s why vegans' faces look so sallow, like they're dying. also no choloesterol = bad. you need fat, you especially need cholesterol, it builds lots of hormones.

tl;dr: you're connective tissue and hormones are deteriorating because you've been vegan for 4 years. the connective tisue one should be particularly alarming becuase you're suposedly got TMD.

just giev it up. no one like cute little animals dying, but that's just the way it is. earth is a zero sum game. some have to lose for others to benefit. there's no utopia where every being on earth can hold hands and sing koombaya. IF an animal needed to, it would eat you. Come bakc to reality and start eating meat and dairy for your own helath ya dum-dum

[Anonymous No.9851832]

>>9851065
>I am B12 deficient based on my bloodwork
You need to be deficient for a lot of years before it starts impacting you hard, nonetheless cut the vegan shit or at least take supplements. Go to a neurologist for the rest.

[Anonymous No.9851938]

Fatty here, starting to lose weight (about 20 pounds so far) and i'm only losing weight in one side of my body, should I go to the doctor?

[Anonymous No.9851955]

>>9851938
You probably should go unless you've changed your diet. But honestly if you're very fat even small changes in diet can cause fairly rapid weight loss. I don't think the asymmetry is significant.

[Anonymous No.9851981]

>>9851955
Oh I guess I should have worded that better, yea I have changed my diet and started exercising, i'm purposely losing weight, it's just that it's only losing in one side, the asymmetry is normal?

[Anonymous No.9852082]

>>9851981
What do you mean by just one side. Like, just your left dide, or just an arm, or what?

[Anonymous No.9852100]

>>9850717
that's one of the reasons why I didn't want to have a career as a pharmacist and switched to medicine. In school we learn about the pathophysiology of disease, pharmacology of drugs that act against that disease, and all this amazing stuff. In practice we use very little of that knowledge and instead input stuff on a computer and package drugs and make sure the billing is appropriate and all that. It was very unfulfilling for me.

[Anonymous No.9852174]

>>9852100
It sounds like a low stress job though, and it pays more than enough. Medicine is definitely more stressful unless you are in dermatology or one of the other prized specialties

[Anonymous No.9852184]

>>9852082
My entire left side is hanging a lot more. Can mostly notice it in my stomach area and face, there's still some man boob action on my left side while the right side is a lot tighter, and my face seems a bit bloated and more fatty on the left side.

Same thing in my thighs and arms but not as much

[Anonymous No.9852198]

>>9849537
It's just me, a hypochondriac who can find and ingest information quickly -- I shouldn't be worrying or thinking about these things honestly but it's kind of fun and gives ideas for the future

[Anonymous No.9852202]

>>9848247
How the fuck can patients under GA vary? Vitals?

[Anonymous No.9852231]

>>9846519
Hospitals employ pathologists to check samples and perform autopsies, and you have the forensic pathologists that examine the bodies of murder victims

[Anonymous No.9852331]

Had a flexible cystoscopy today
Hurt way more than I thought it would
Although they gave no time for the anaesthetic to work, just stuck the tube down right away
Hurt an ok bit at first, I was merely silently wincing
But when it got to the neck of the bladder, holy shit
I yelped out in pain, breathing heavily, and kept saying ow, ow, ow to myself

On the plus side, it didn't take very long (the whole appointment). They said prepare to be in hospital for 4-5 hours. I was in and out of the hospital in 1 hr 8 mins, according to Google maps. Amazing for an overworked Britbong NHS hospital.

[Anonymous No.9852472]

>>9852174
It was low stress to me in the limited work I did as a pharmacy student (so not full pharmacist responsibilities) but I know more than one pharmacist who had to take significant time off work/leave jobs because of the stress. LIke you said though, it pays more than enough. I think $45 CAD/hr or so around here.

For me, the unhappiness/wondering what if had I continued with pharmacy would have been worse than whatever stress medicine will bring my way.

[Anonymous No.9852657]

>>9846112
>>9847913
>and mentally handicapped
Aspies can have high IQs. Often we start puberty late though
>Our survey of testosterone-related medical conditions suggested delayed puberty in women with Asperger Syndrome, and their mothers, and this was confirmed in an independent sample by our group.

Maybe a trick question?

[Anonymous No.9852680]

>>9851832
Yeah, that's what I've been told. My diet is fine otherwise (have had all the bloodwork done).

>>9851821
Can someone confirm the nagging suspicion I have that this poster is not /med/?

>>9851538
No.

>>9851534
It wasn't me you responded to, but yeah, it's rough. The physio I've done before was a waste of time / money, and I always felt it made the pain significantly worse. I don't doubt him when he says it's a mechanical problem, I guess I'm more just at the end of my rope in terms of being able to deal with how much it hurts. I've heard mixed things about medical marijuana either making it go away or turning it up to 11, and at this point that's the route I'm looking to go down.

[Anonymous No.9853046]

how is working as a doctor in a country with no public health system feels like? I'm curious

[Anonymous No.9853300]

>>9851739
Whoah.
>>9852184
Well the human body is asymetrical anyway. Apparently fat deposits are getting mobilised better from your left side body lol. As you progress the right side should catch up.
>>9852331
Weird, these hurt a fair bit and patients get general anesthesia.
>>9852680
We'll there are a lot of reports of it helping chronic pain, but that's more like treating the symptoms not the problem. That's always a bad thing in medicine. I also missed that you're vegetarian/vegan. Vitamin defficiency from the whole B group can lead to neuropathic pain. Have you tried taking vitamin suplements? Also I'm assuming it's needless to say that's the retarded thing you can do when you can just eat a balanced diet, but that's a choice you've made I'm not here to change your mind. So yeah try a vitamin supplement and try a different doctor maybe? Weed is not the ideal solution.

[Anonymous No.9853307]

>>9851809
>goes to a trash school
>my school is meme so ALL schools must be a meme

[Anonymous No.9853617]

>>9853046
like stealing candy from a baby, ehehehe...

[Anonymous No.9853694]

>>9847174
Sound like low t levels

[Anonymous No.9853705]

>>9846112
Guys I think I'm too much of a brainlet to become a medfag. should I just kms?

[Anonymous No.9853731]

>>9853705
yes.

[Anonymous No.9853907]

>>9846112
3.2 gpa here. Do I still have a shot at becoming a surgeon, my dream job?

[Anonymous No.9854002]

>>9851536
I am dubious of thirdies doing anything right.

[Anonymous No.9854695]

>>9853300
>So yeah try a vitamin supplement and try a different doctor maybe? Weed is not the ideal solution.

I've heard about the B12 issue, maybe I should be taking it, but it doesn't line up with the severity from what I've been reading. I feel constantly off balance, drained of energy, etc. If you can recommend a macerator-free source of eggs, I'd be all over it. As it is I'm considering adding dairy back in just because I don't much like the idea of taking a supplement to begin with.

Needless to say sitting around all day I end up forming all manner of theories. I would be convinced it was hypochondria if it didn't hurt so fucking much. Appreciate you, /med/ic.

[Anonymous No.9854698]

>>9847174
This is sort of what's been happening to me, and I hear lots of people complain about it.

[Anonymous No.9855332]

>>9854002
What's a thirdie? Third world country? Romania is in Europe you silly cat. And they've been having a lot of progress politically and economically.

[Anonymous No.9855456]

>>9850638
That's a fake pic tho

[Anonymous No.9855491]

Is it too late to study for med school when you're in your mid 20s?

[Anonymous No.9855537]

>>9848611
>supposed high IQ
>still needs amphetamines to do well on hard tests

[Anonymous No.9855551]

>>9846278
H-hi

>>9850336
>How do anti-nuclear antibodies even exist?
My guess: When cells die through non-apoptotic means, the intracell shit gets spread around everywhere, including the nucleic acids. Roaming B cells pick it up and there ya go

[Anonymous No.9855615]

>>9850717
>making 80K a year as a glorified cashier.
I mean if we're just talking about retail/community, that's not the whole story. Their job mainly is (or should be) to educate the patient on what the medication is, how it's taken, what it's taken for, and side effects to expect. They're also considered the last line of defense to catch a fuck-up that the prescriber or tech may have made. Like taking the wrong dose, a med the patient is allergic to, et cetera. Retail/community pharmacists are also seen as the "bridge" between the patients and physicians since they're much more accessible for the patient. Many patients ask the pharmacist what they think of whatever injury/symptoms they may be having and how to treat it. Often times pharmacists can give great recommendations on OTC stuff, and often times they refer to a specialist or whatever.

But that's just retail pharmacy. PharmD's can end up in pharmaceutical industry, hospital, research, nuclear pharmacy, specialty pharmacy to name a few. And the roles differ depending on what you go into. They can also specialize in certain practices through residencies.

Pharmacists are also gaining prescriber rights with collaborative-prescribing agreements and whatnot, giving them an even greater effect on patient care. I think this is really cool because pharmacists are really good at identifying the nuances in medications to aid in choosing what to prescribe (ex which SSRI to pick? Which statin would be least likely to cause x side effect)

[Anonymous No.9855628]

>>9846112
Abort that sombitch

[Anonymous No.9855629]

>>9853907
CAN SOMEONE ANSWER?

[Anonymous No.9855631]

>>9855629
lmao anon can you talk to your faculty or people who work in the industry instead, you aint gonna find a good response on this site

[Anonymous No.9855666]

>>9846112
Is it too late to abort the 12 year old?

[Anonymous No.9855926]

>>9855629
Assuming that's your final cumulative GPA, then not likely. Unless you were a Navy Seal and Astronaut before hand, no amount of extracurriculars will get you into med school with that GPA. Consider a post bacc or masters to un-fuck it

[Anonymous No.9855933]

>>9855926
But I'm really good at surgery, I know a lot about it

[Anonymous No.9855939]

>>9850349
yfw you'll graduate to be unemployed? regards LK5

[Anonymous No.9855946]

>>9855933
So do your peers anon, in fact they probably know more than you, considering they didn't get a shit GPA

[Anonymous No.9856185]

>>9846112
Abort and impregnate her.

[Anonymous No.9856364]

>>9851821
I-is this nigga trolling?

[Anonymous No.9856800]

>>9855933
you have to do postbach look on sdn the more respected ones. Then you'll need to murder the mcat and apply broadly to md and do schools. If you get into either everything will reset and you can be the doctor you dream of. I would look on sdn for guides

[Anonymous No.9856819]

>>9846112
Starting my Physical Therapy Doctorate at a top 10 medical school soon, bros. What do I do if I get along better with med students than my peers?

[Anonymous No.9857050]

>>9856819
Date a med student

[Anonymous No.9857292]

>>9846854
>I'm about to start med school. How do I avoid just coasting by and actually learn shit?

[Anonymous No.9857410]

>>9853907
It's not a dream job. I've been on a surgical placement for a month and it's just a waste of life. All surgeons do is surgery, sleep and then surgery. They have nothing else in their lives. No exercise, no relationships, no interests.

The ones who stick to it seem to like that but i can see it as nothing but a misuse of life. There are many professions where you get paid a tonne more for the same work anyway.

[Anonymous No.9857413]

>>9851534
Sure a chronic fissure which has scarred may well never heal but typically they heal just fine.

[Anonymous No.9857571]

Is it a good idea to try benzo's for social anxiety? I was thinking of using them on the lowest clinical dose possible for a couple of weeks to see if they are helpful. But I am hearing tons of horror stories on the web and know these pills come with major drawbacks (tolerance development, addiction).

[Anonymous No.9857875]

Google isn't helping and I'm not headed to the dermo until the 23 and idk where else to ask. What the fuck is this on my nose?
It's not a zit or pimple. It's been there, since I've noticed it, since about mid-December 2017. I picked it off out of stress during my physics final and it bled for about 15 minutes. Went away for a month or two and came back.
After picking it off again when I was drunk before a cruise over spring break, it bled again. I noticed that instead of being red, it's just a clear, white color so there must be blood pooled underneath. It appears to have increased in size since March.
It's a shit picture, but it's the best I can do in the poor lighting at my lab.

>pic related
>inb4 blackheads on nose

[Anonymous No.9857942]

>currently in a competitive rad tech program
>dad is still proudly telling everyone I'm doing medicine
>despite having it explained a dozen times that I can't do med as my undergrad
It's kinda cute really.

[Anonymous No.9857975]

>>9846278
I'm not talking down your field or anything but I have never met a pharmacist that wasn't a chink or didn't have a borderline personality disorder. Same goes for nurses under the age of 40 tho.

[Anonymous No.9857978]

Not sure if this is a thing, but for some reason I have a distinct memory of reading about a effect that I can't find anymore.

It described how when if we place ourselves in a sensory derivative environment our senses can start to panic and star making up random noise.

For example complete silence might cause auditory halucinations, tinnitus or something similar.

Part of me thinks I maybe read it in relation to lost limbs, as a theory for phantom pain.

Recently I have been thinking a lot about it. But can't seem to find anything about it.

Anyone can help?

[Anonymous No.9857984]

I have 3 options:

>study medicine in eastern european country
>study physical therapy in another city of my country
>study nursing in my city

which one?

[Anonymous No.9857998]

>>9857984

>study medicine in eastern european country
Depends which country. Quality can vary, so can recongnition.

>study physical therapy in another city of my country
good option, if you wanna do physical therapy, and bonus is moving out

>study nursing in my city
Don't do it if the primary reason is the convenience of staying in the same city

[Anonymous No.9858002]

>>9857998
How's your finances? If you have to pay for accommodation either way I'd do med, provided it's recognised in whatever country you want to practice in.

[Anonymous No.9858005]

>>9857998
Which countries would you consider "high quality"?

[Anonymous No.9858012]

Medfags in Universal Healthcare countries. Are you slaves whose labor other people are entitled to, and badly paid compared to medfags in privatized healthcare systems? Or is that just propaganda?

[Anonymous No.9858031]

>>9858005

More central Europe, but I've heard good about Ljubljana, Zagreb & Budapest.

Each have upsides and down sides among them.

[Anonymous No.9858038]

>>9846112
Im a lazy person ( i dont go out much , almost no physical exercice) , im not social either , my body is weak and i have deficiencies. Halp. I have trouble carrying weight and get tired from regular walks to shop etc.

[Anonymous No.9858040]

>>9858038
walk more, eat more/less depending if you are overweight or underweight

[Anonymous No.9858044]

>>9858038
I'm much the same, do what I do:
https://youtu.be/dBiJp6vg638

[Anonymous No.9858047]

>>9858040
I cant motivate myself to go for walks alone. I find it awkward to walk by myself just for the sake of going for a walk. Idk :( also i guess im slightly underweight.

[Anonymous No.9858051]

>>9858047
Eat more. Do you have a job, go to school?
Walk there instead of driving or something.

[Anonymous No.9858054]

>>9858044
Thanks for the video. Rip downstairs neighbours tho lol.

[Anonymous No.9858058]

>>9858047
Walk to the closest McDonalds for a burger every now and then.

[Anonymous No.9858060]

>>9858058
Uninronically i do this. Lol

[Anonymous No.9858062]

>>9858054
Lesser problem for me despite living in an apartment as well (nice thick concrete), but consider the fact that it doesn't last very long.

[Anonymous No.9858077]

>>9858060
Start counting calories with something like MyFitnessPal and choose the second closest instead of the closest McD.

And don't be exclusive with McDs

[Anonymous No.9858109]

>>9858044
Is HIIT just a meme?

[Anonymous No.9858181]

>>9858109
No. It's extremely beneficial in a broad sense. If you're training for something specifically, it's nice to include but shouldn't be the focus.

[Anonymous No.9858217]

>>9858109
Plus make sure to do proper HIIT.

Many people try to incorporate it into something like biking or rope skipping. Where by the time you reach high intensity the interval is over.

[Anonymous No.9858220]

>>9857978
sounds familiar but don't know whats its called. Try someone smarter.

[Anonymous No.9858228]

>>9858002
There are no tuition fees in my country, although the cost of living in the country I considered studying (Romania) is much lower than mines, and tuition fees aren't that high, but they do exist.

[Anonymous No.9858451]

>>9858228
Don't come to Romania, the foreign students are treated like shit. They only care about your money.

[Anonymous No.9858495]

>>9855491
Never too late, we have people in their 30s and 40s here.
>>9857571
Well, there are specialised benzos for anxiety, you're not taking the strong shit that's used to induce anesthesia. Thay've proven to work well for anxiety (alprazolam, clonazepam).
>>9857875
It's a depigmented mole, dude.
>>9857978
That's a myth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXVGIb3bzHI
>>9858012
Kind of yes. Southeastern europe here. No one trusts our expertise and we get constantly beaten. Pay is middle tier and depends on specialty.
>>9858228
>>9858451
In Bulgaria you're treated like a novelty, but the quality of the education is questionable, again because money.
t. a native

[Anonymous No.9858541]

>>9846112
>12 years old
>pregnant
this is hypothetic, right?

[Anonymous No.9858558]

Anon, pls, recommend me some good video tutorials and literature about histology.

[Anonymous No.9858659]

>>9858495
>>>9857978 (You)
>That's a myth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXVGIb3bzHI [Embed]

Yeah, but found what I was looking for. The Ganzfeld effect. From wikipedia:

>is a phenomenon of perception caused by exposure to an unstructured, uniform stimulation field. The effect is the result of the brain amplifying neural noise in order to look for the missing visual signals.

[Anonymous No.9858732]

Sometimes when I go to pee after jacking off, my urethra starts to burn like crazy about 30 seconds after peeing. The only relief is to flush my urethra with more pee, which 30 seconds later stars to burn again.

What the hell is this? It can't be an STD since I'm a virgin.

[Anonymous No.9858736]

is 4 energy drinks a week too much if youre an athlete?
is sleeping 5 hours a night unhealthy? I wake up exactly 5 hours after setting to sleep. for some reason i get back to sleep instead of gettinf off bed.

[Anonymous No.9858810]

>>9858732
uti?

>>9858736
both aren't great the 5 hours of sleep is worse.

>>9858558
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD7882068A01C370F - Shotgun histology tutorials

http://histology.leeds.ac.uk/ - Online histology guide

http://www.histologyguide.org/index.html - Lots of interactive slides and guides

http://www.bu.edu/histology/m/index.htm - Labelled slides

i hope that helps a lil someone else have resources?

[Anonymous No.9858811]

>>9846112
I have psoriasis, a small patch of scaly skin in my left leg.
Is there anything i can do to make it disappear? Is treatment even useful? i had this patch like 2 years ago, it dissapeared last year, and now is back again. Does not scratching it helps?

[Anonymous No.9858821]

we are about at the bump limit new thread

>>9858819

[Anonymous No.9860497]

What are the chances of my getting a tendon rupture on antibiotics while exercising?

Especially when I may or may not be over 300 pounds

[Anonymous No.9860778]

Unsure of which /med/ general to post in, but this is only on page 4. Anyway.
If there's any neurology specialists here, please tell me about gliosis in the absence of TBI.
From my limited knowledge, it's a result of an infarct to the nervous system like hypoxia, stroke or inflammation. It can appear with microglia and even T cells if there's a chance it's immune related.
Can gliosis and migroglia arise from anything else though?

[Anonymous No.9862395]