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Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:34:47 2018 No.9840237 [Reply] [Original]

>fell for the two years of community college meme

This shit only has value if you're in some bullshit humanities major, so you can save money to offset the cost of having literally no marketable knowledge.

As a CS major, I came out of community college having only taken in intro to C course (the only class offered that can transfer for anything). My university has three prerequisites for Algo+DS 2 (Discrete, Algo+DS 1, and object oriented programming) as well as an entrance exam.

Basically, I have to take the set of the hardest weedout classes at my school in a single semester as incoming junior to catch up to freshmen and sophomores. Additionally, all these students will have the opportunity to try for internships in their second summer, while my only option is get one in my final summer.

This is if I'm lucky however, because I will probably have to send out applications in fall while I'm taking all the prereqs, so its unlikely any places will consider my application given I'll have no core classes.

To add to that, making connections and relationships with faculty is strained because of having to take the hardest classes all at once and having so much less time than everyone else.

tl;dr Going to community college for 2 years than transferring is reddit tier garbage and basically puts you irreversibly behind all your peers. Don't do it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:30:39 2018 No.9840607 File: 67 KB, 581x242, ASU-arizona-state-university-24295687-581-242.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9840237 Bumping with a shitty college

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:11:08 2018 No.9840648 >he didnt make sure his classes transfered

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:41:37 2018 No.9840692 >>9840648 No, I mean my community college offered nothing university-tier. All computer classes there were IT and code monkey shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:00:20 2018 No.9840725 >>9840237 Same here OP, I was an idiot who trusted my advisor and I ended up transferring to uni with no programming classes done. Turns out you start that shit freshman year

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:05:49 2018 No.9840730 >>9840725 >advisor he probably thought you were a brainlet and failed you on purpose because you were already rock bottom in his head lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:16:28 2018 No.9840742 >>9840237 are you retarded? I'm in CC and literally took programming classes my first semester dumb brainlet

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:18:25 2018 No.9840750

>>9840237
>Going to community college for 2 years than transferring is reddit tier garbage and basically puts you irreversibly behind all your peers.

But this is obvious. You knew this. There is a reason for there being a difference. The trade off is supposed to be financial, you absolute fucking idiot.

Real tl;dr for this post: I bought the cheaper version of [insert literally any sold good] and it is not as good as the more expensive version! WHO WOULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS MADNESS?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:30:34 2018 No.9840777 >>9840750 Went to CC then transferred to UCLA. Learned more at CC than UCLA. Also enjoyed it more too, it varies from school to school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:41:15 2018 No.9840794 >>9840730 She was an idiot who just handed out the standard transfer shit and told me to do just my calcs and physics (which I aced all except for physics 1)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:58:20 2018 No.9840819 >>9840777 Really??? anon are you still here? I have questions 4 you!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:59:59 2018 No.9840823 >>9840819 This seems like bait, but what up

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:02:32 2018 No.9840832 >>9840692 So, you didn't make sure they had enough that would transfer.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:42:42 2018 No.9840906

>>9840823
I'm in the same situation as you. I'm in CC and I plan to transfer to UCLA. When did you transfer? If I drop my email can you send an email I want to ask you about essays, internships and generally just learning about C++ and other CS stuff!

also are you still at UCLA?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:01:29 2018 No.9840942 File: 423 KB, 490x684, Hardest class in CS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9840237 >discrete, data structures, oop >"hardest weedout classes" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:03:03 2018 No.9840945 >>9840237 If you have a plan, or are Jerry Pournelle, then it's okay to go to school and every choice you make will be good. If you do not have a plan, and are not Jerry Pournelle, then do not go to school.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:13:29 2018 No.9840964

>>9840692
Of course they are. You're only supposed to do the common core STEM classes at CC:
>Calculus I&II
>Vector Calculus
>Linear/Matrix Algebra
>Ordinary Differential Equations
>(Calculus based) Physics I&II
>General Chem I&II
>English 101&102
>Macro/Micro Economics
>w/e History course for diversity elective
>+2~6 gen ed crap (ie public speaking) that you need for the AS degree that won't transfer

Then you can save 1 year off in university and graduate in 3 more years. CC is called the 13th and 14th grades for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:15:27 2018 No.9840969 >>9840237 >>9840725 The >>>/g/hetto for monkeys is that way

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:26:56 2018 No.9840990 >>9840237 >>>/g/66561688

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:29:24 2018 No.9841077

>>9840964
>>Calculus I&II
took it
>>Vector Calculus
not offered
>>Linear/Matrix Algebra
not offered
>>Ordinary Differential Equations
not offered
>>(Calculus based) Physics I&II
only physics 1 offered
>>General Chem I&II
only 1
>>English 101&102
took those
>>Macro/Micro Economics
dont need it
>>w/e History course for diversity elective
took it
>>+2~6 gen ed crap (ie public speaking) that you need for the AS degree that won't transfer
you're missing the point. If you go to CC all your peers are taking those classes spread, and yet speeding past you in the realm of core classes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:34:00 2018 No.9841081 >>9841077 >>>Vector Calculus >not offered >>>Linear/Matrix Algebra >not offered >>>Ordinary Differential Equations >not offered What shit hole did you go to?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:56:47 2018 No.9841103

>>9841077
>>Vector Calculus
not offered
>>Linear/Matrix Algebra
not offered
>>Ordinary Differential Equations
not offered
>>(Calculus based) Physics I&II
only physics 1 offered
>>General Chem I&II
only 1

lmao sucks to be you phaget,

mine offers calc 1-3, diff. equations and linear algebra, physics 1-3, a lot of chem (idk which ones I don't need it) and a whole lot of CS, like 802, 839, 836, 840, 890 and moar.

you just go to a shitty CC, I'm still going to graduate the exact same time I would have if I went to uni directly

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:00:10 2018 No.9841159
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>>9841077
>speeding past
>irreversibly behind

who the fuck are you comparing yourself to? do you really think an extra year in industry or academia makes or breaks people? dude, 4 extra years wouldn't even make the slightest difference. whats more important is not being in large amounts of student debt and keeping a good GPA. you absolutely do not have to take all those classes at once, you just think you do because you are trying to adhere to some arbitrary time table. how about you slow the fuck down and stop treating classes as boxes you need to check and start treating them as opportunities to learn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:04:14 2018 No.9841222 >>9840964 this. the goal is to get both an AS-T degree as well as an AA for Gen. Ed or something equivalent

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:44:26 2018 No.9841251

>>9840237
I plan on going to De Anza next year for this proppouse, also aiming for a CS major. Is OP right? or he just made wrong desicion. I read good things about De Anza regarding transfers.

The reason why I am going this path is because I finished highschool with mediocre grades and after finishing I was a NEET for a long time. I see CC as a second chance for getting into a good uni. I already wasted too much time.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:44:37 2018 No.9841252

>>9840906
Sorry I transferred for math not CS. CS is insanely difficult at UCLA, it's the projects that are super time consuming. It's actually harder to transfer to UCLA for CS than Berkeley (5% acceptance rate vs 7% acceptance rate). I wish you luck, Anon

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:46:52 2018 No.9841255

>>9841251
It's a good shot, look up transfer statistics for schools like UCLA, Cal, etc. Some major are as high 45%. CS is one of the harder ones to transfer in as. I wouldn't recommend LA or Cal for CS just for your metal health. UCI seems to be a pretty decent school without driving students to massive depression

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:50:47 2018 No.9841259 >>9841251 >De Anza shit trimester system that doesn't transfer well, also shit school there are better ones in the area

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:28:13 2018 No.9841298 >>9841251 >also aiming for a CS major You're making a horrible mistake. Major in literally anything else.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:32:15 2018 No.9841299
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>>9841252
>>9841255
Transfer rates mean nothing. If 99% of people applying have Cs and Ds for calculus, of course the majority of them will be rejected. CS's "100k starting" myth attracts brainlets like nothing else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:32:20 2018 No.9841300 >>9841159 >whats more important is not being in large amounts of student debt thats only an issue if you cant find a job

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:31:40 2018 No.9841376 >>9840237 >Not getting internship first semester Fuck off noob

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:30:03 2018 No.9843206 >>9841298 What's wrong with CS? why do so many people here see it as an unworthy meme degree?

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:49:00 2018 No.9843237

I love my CC. Great professors, small classes, and when you get into the STEM area most of the people are pretty motivated. I'll probably transfer to UIC, although I'm thinking about UIUC which I might be able to get into, despite how competitive it is. Although that would mean taking an extra semester at CC...

Anyway, if you're reading this thread and thinking about CC, make sure you visit your options and research how the courses they have transfer to your desired institutions. Do this before you start.. I live near a wealthy suburban area so we have a very well-funded, well respected school.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:55:21 2018 No.9843242 >>9843206 Because it's an unworthy meme degree. Study any other STEM degree in undergrad and then get a masters in CS.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 22:58:03 2018 No.9843245 File: 35 KB, 720x405, anime-school-gun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9843242 >masters in CS Now there's the true meme degree. Do not listen to this poster

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 23:00:08 2018 No.9843251 >>9841300 >That's only an issue for almost everybody graduating university

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:16:22 2018 No.9843360 >>9841077 holy shit even my hick shit tier CC had vector calc, linear algebra, diff eqs, and the entire calc based physics sequence, and all chem up to ochem where the fuck do you live

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:17:26 2018 No.9843361 >>9841259 >shit school there are better ones in the area which ones >>9841298 fucking retard >>9843242 >Study any other STEM degree in undergrad and then get a masters in CS. literally braindead

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:19:07 2018 No.9843365 >>9843242 Decent grad schools for CS don't even take EE BS holders, and for good reason. Maybe with Math or Physics, and even then CS students are given priority. Anything else is 99% no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:34:22 2018 No.9843381 >>9843365 Is this bait or have you literally never spoken to any of your professors?

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:36:59 2018 No.9843385

I thought I was clever doing community college. I didn’t realize how much I was missing out on re: networking and INTERNSHIPS. I thought an internship was something you just did senior year... nobody told me you were supposed to then as a rising sophomore, junior, AND senior.

Luckily I managed to get into a decent one before I graduate but I’ll never be top tier anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:41:04 2018 No.9843392 >>9843381 I'm in grad school.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:42:12 2018 No.9843394 >>9843385 you mean as a rising sophomore and junior most internships don't hire seniors and yeah, I fell hard for the CC meme. I'm spending an extra year at my 4 year to make up for lost opportunities.

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:43:56 2018 No.9843397

>>9843365
>https://www.cs.princeton.edu/grad/faq#6
>>Does my undergraduate degree have to be in Computer Science?
>No. Normally, however, our applicants have a degree in computer science, engineering, science, or mathematics.

>https://cs.stanford.edu/admissions/faq#a1
>>Q: Do you have to be a Computer Science undergraduate major to apply?
>A: No, it is not required that a student have majored in CS but it is important that you have strong quantitative and analytical skills.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:47:35 2018 No.9843410 >>9843394 Rising senior means you’re gonna be a senior when summer is over ... at it’s rising <next thing you are> ... though frankly I think the “rising” thing is retarded why not just say “incoming” like we used to

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 00:54:41 2018 No.9843419 >>9843394 >most internships don't hire seniors t-this isn't true, right? I'm from a CC and I transferred and just finished up my junior year for EE

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 02:47:17 2018 No.9843535
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>>9841252

I'm a math/physishit at UCLA currently, but my roommates have made it abundantly clear that CS is ungodly difficult here.

I'm personally less than thrilled about the heavy emphasis on phenomenology, experimentalists, and general disdain for actual rigorous mathematical models in physics, but I'm just a first year so maybe it gets better in the more advanced classes. The math requirements for the major are pretty pathetic, though.

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 03:12:55 2018 No.9843560

>>9843535
Must be real fucking nice living in California for the price of in-state tuition. I'm considered upper-class (100k/year family) and my dad says that he won't pay for an Ivy-league tuition because the out-of-state tuition is super fucking expensive.

Anonymous Mon Jul 2 03:47:07 2018 No.9843590

>>9843560

For my family, paying a quarter of in state tuition out of pockey would be a struggle. Thank God for FAFSA, hope it doesn't get gutted.

That's pretty shitty, though, if you have the brainpower to get into an Ivy it's a shame to not attend because of money. Sorry anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 03:58:02 2018 No.9843599 >>9840237 >reddit spacing your problem isnt college, it's that you're retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 17:56:30 2018 No.9844635 >>9843237 >UIC ayy good choice. I'm going there now. Obviously, if you get in, UIUC is the better option, but I was really surprised with how good our math program is. Wish you luck anon. Are you in CoD rn?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 18:16:39 2018 No.9844661 >>9843535 Wait till you start taking the honors Analysis, honors Algebra, and the grad courses. The math will be much more intense than the CS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 20:21:40 2018 No.9844871 >>9840942 This, discrete math is the most fun part about my cc experience as a cs major, the other two are easy if you have programmed before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 20:31:00 2018 No.9844888 >>9841251 West Valley > De Anza

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 2 21:01:04 2018 No.9844957 File: 149 KB, 1463x757, 76756456.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9840942 What is wrong with these people? They can´t even understand math proofs with ducks thrown at them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 08:41:40 2018 No.9845733 >>9840607 ASU is a shitty college?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 08:47:58 2018 No.9845738 >>9843360 Then what made it shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 3 08:49:43 2018 No.9845740 >>9843419 It isn't if you know someone personally.

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