QUANTUM COMPUTING INSIDE TIME DILATION

[Anonymous No.9832701]

So if I had a super computer for BTC mining, operating inside a time warp field, theoretically I could compute 100s or 1000s of times faster than btc miners operating in "real time"?

Do you think the NSA, Warren Buffet, the Jewish cabal, or some other entity is already doing this?

[Anonymous No.9832703]

>>>/biz/

[Anonymous No.9832705]

>>9832701

[Anonymous No.9832707]

>>9832701
yeah i think you should dedicate your entire life to this idea please stop wasting your time here and get to work

[Anonymous No.9832711]

>>9832703
its a science question regarding time and time dilation

research groups have created time warp field generators in which they have abundant evidence of being able to advance or retard time inside the field in reference to real time, outside the field.
things happening inside the field can happen faster or slower than normal operations, outside the field

so its only a matter of time until it is used to subvert some financial system

question is, would it work?

[Anonymous No.9832730]

Big if true

[Anonymous No.9832737]

http://www.andersoninstitute.com/time-warped-fields.html

[Anonymous No.9832839]

>>9832701
Bruh if you had something like that you'd not be wasting it shitcoin mining.

[Anonymous No.9833303]

The faster something is moving, its work time appears to slow from slower/stationary observer.

if you were to travel at the speed of light to pluto then back to earth, the light relative to earths timeframe would take 5 hours to reach pluto and then 5 hours to return. So you get into your lightspeed vehicle at 1:00PM on earth, launch to pluto, and HQ expects you to reach pluto by 6:00PM and be back home at 11:00PM
in your reference frame aboard the vehicle, you instantly arrive at pluto and instantly arrive back at earth. You left earth at 1:00PM, and after the round trip to pluto, the onboard vehicle clock still reads 1:00PM. You and the vehicle did not age for 10 hours and time did not pass from your point of view.

so in order for you to benefit from something like a computer working in a different timeframe, you or the earth would have to travel faster towards the speed of light while the computer remains at speed by earth's orbit around the sun.

[Anonymous No.9833321]

>>9833303
no.
the computer is placed in a time warped (time accelerated) field and runs, while outside the field you stand there and wait ten minutes or less.
while ten minutes passes for you, the computer could have been computing for the equivalent of several hours or whatever you decide.
this is more than enough time to hash the next blockchain faster than any other btc mining computer operating at normal time speed.
basically, all you need to do is compute the next blockchain faster than everyone else

[Anonymous No.9833326]

>>9833321
Theres no such thing as a time field you dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.9833328]

>>9833321
only problem is the physical connection between the computer and the internet modem.
anything that passes through the field boundary layer may be disrupted

[Anonymous No.9833331]

>>9833326
learn2science
superluminal speed has also been achieved
get up to date anon
classic physics missed some things

[Anonymous No.9833332]

>>9833303
We really need to stop using SI seconds as a "time" unit. So what if the clock says 1pm, who cares how much time the spaceship "feels"
You got back at 11pm 10 hours passed.
For you, for me, for the ship, for the Earth. 10 hours passed. 5/12ths of a day.

[Anonymous No.9833335]

>>9833331
>smart enough to know FTL is possible
>dumb enough to believe in time dilation requiring FTL be impossible

[Anonymous No.9833347]

>>9833332
The assumption of time dilation is that no time passed for the ship. No.

You aboard the ship did not ride it for 10 hours. You were only aboard it for a few seconds. Thats as much as you can plainly recall and it would be supported by the onboard clock, which did not advance by 10 hours.

[Anonymous No.9833364]

>>9833347
No.
Time is not something that exists locally. Whether the clock notices or the human feels it, the Earth spins. That is Time. The thing SI unit seconds measure is not Time. SI seconds measure photonic fluctuations.
Think of using a rubber band as a measuring tape. That is what SI seconds is doing to Time.

[Anonymous No.9833367]

>>9833364
Time does not function as a universal constant everywhere

[Anonymous No.9833375]

>>9833347
>clocks > planet rotation
10 hours passed.
Note, hours are NOT a SI unit.

[Anonymous No.9833392]

>>9833367
>Time does not function as a universal constant everywhere
If measured with a rubber band unit like SI seconds.
1 day is a constant unit of time.

[Anonymous No.9833417]

>>9833375
I have no idea what point you think you're trying to make. Relativity assumes a traveller moving at a faster speed than a stationary observer, in an exaggerated example, would mean that a minute of countable time in the traveller's point of view would be equivalent to 10 minutes from the observers point of view. Both the observer and traveller can record the same distance reached by the traveller, but the traveller's timestamps would be skewed from the observer's.

why do you even think light can travel as far as it does given how much energy it loses through collisions and refractions and reflections? Its cause time has no effect on light. The photon maintains its arrangement by not being changed over time, because there is no time for the photon. It comes out of a star and travels across a million lightyears without experiencing time, to arrive at distance in practically the same arrangement it departed as, so although earth is recording light from a million light years away, the internal clock of the photons travelling that distance is not more than a fraction of a second from origin to earth. From birth to death, a photon only exists for a moment, where there is no time for it to be changed until it eventually collides with something and slows down.

So a vehicle designed to travel at the speed of light would experience no internal time changes while it is travelling at lightspeed. Provided the vehicle doesnt collide with anything, you would experience the same null time whether you travelled to pluto or missed the mark and travelled through the universe for 10 billion years. Whenever you come out of lightspeed, you will be presented with a very different view of the universe than the view you knew only a single blink of a moment prior.

[Anonymous No.9833433]

>>9833392
Define "1 day"

[Ron No.9833440]

>>9832701
don't take drugs bro

[Anonymous No.9833455]

>>9833433
If we're talking about a computer driven spaceship, a day would be measured on the frequency oscillation of a quartz crystal keeping time, the "clock". it is a mechanical process and one of the reasons time dilation, provided it actually exists, cannot be fundamentally proven, as disturbances in the mechanical analysis of the oscillations could just as easily account for a failure to record every oscillation precisely, thereby skewing results.

provided time dilation were real though, should the quartz clock travel at lightspeed, while it is at speed it is expected to not oscillate at all, thereby recording no time to pass.

[Anonymous No.9833554]

>>9833433
One cycle of light dark aka day night, here on Earth.
Yes some Days are longer shorter than others.

[Anonymous No.9833714]

>>9833455
>provided it actually exists
you realize there have been recorded discrepancies in the clocks of satellites in orbit due to time dilation right?

[Anonymous No.9833719]

>>9833714
>Frame dragging
literally a thing since the 80s
guess they dont teach this stuff in school?

[Anonymous No.9833745]

>>9832701
Yes, Jew here, we rent out black holes to Chinese Bitcoin miners for this.

[Anonymous No.9833746]

>>9833719
>school
id be surprised if you had a first hand experience of it

[Anonymous No.9833871]

>>9832701
>can dialite time
>use it to mine shitcoins

[Anonymous No.9833949]

>>9833871
>>9832839

What would be some possible applications for this if it can be done?

[Anonymous No.9833979]

>>9832711
>being able to advance time
>>9833321
>>9833331

[Anonymous No.9833991]

>>9833979
>believing an alternate reality doesnt exist further along in time

[Anonymous No.9834039]

>>9832701
Just get in a satellite and use thrust to accelerate to an appropriate speed for time dilation that you think is suitable, then mine away. Brah

[Anonymous No.9834057]

>>9832701
It could work, yes. What you need is gravitational time dilation though, just making the computer go fast doesn't work as >>9833303 explained. It would have the opposite effect.
So send the computer to space where it will experience a weaker gravitational field and it'll mine (marginally) faster than on earth, sure.

[Anonymous No.9834182]

>>9833991
>alternate realities
>FTL
>accelerating time

[Anonymous No.9834455]

>>9833979
already being done.

http://www.andersoninstitute.com/time-warped-fields.html

[Anonymous No.9834459]

>>9832737
Nice source fag

[Anonymous No.9834469]

>>9834459
yeah, i guess a physicist who has spent his entire life working in space-time, planetary orbits and gravitational mechanics wouldnt know anythign about this stuff

>BIOGRAPHY:
David Lewis Anderson is a physicist whose interests are in spacetime physics, special relativity and global community service. He was employed at a young age by the United States Air Force conducting advanced research and development at the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards Air Force Base. He later founded an organization call the TTRC, an advanced time-technology research laboratory.

David provided one of the first comprehensive overviews of the historical views of time, time control, and time travel in the documentary "Time Travel - Journeys into Time." His ideas were later applied for the development of high performance time reactor systems for energy production and time technology research at what is known today as the Anderson Institute. David is the President and CEO of Anderson Multinational LLC, headquartered in New York. He holds multiple patents relating to time technology and also for time reactor designs

[Anonymous No.9834478]

I swear this board is as bad as gping back to 1800s where "leading scientists" insisted the man couldnt travel on trains because the human body would be destroyed if it travelled faster then 20mph

Protip: There are many things that school intentionally doesn't teach.

[Anonymous No.9834488]

>>9834455
This belongs in >>>/x/
That's not how General Relativity works

[Anonymous No.9834499]

>>9834488
>General Relativity thoroughly describes every possible operation and modality of the entire universe
get a grip buddy

[Anonymous No.9834535]

>>9832701
To answer your first question it would actually be hundreds of thousands of times faster because for time dilation to occur the object must be moving a significant fraction of the speed of light. To answer your second question No, because nothing (other than a particle accelerator) can move anywhere near a fraction of the speed of light.

[Anonymous No.9834542]

>>9834535
>time dilation to occur the object must be moving a significant fraction of the speed of light
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.9834547]

>>9833332
>can't into spacetime intervals
I think you dont really understand how special relativity works.

[Anonymous No.9834554]

>>9834535
>for time dilation to occur the object must be moving a significant fraction of the speed of light
Anon time dilation happens when you fly in an airplane or go from sea level to the top of a mountain.
Mercury goes around the sun so fast we couldn't describe its orbit accurately before einstein. GPS and satelites that we use every day only work because it takes time dilation into account, otherwise it would be forever lagging behind our earthbound frame of reference because it's own internal clock runs slower compared to ours.

[Anonymous No.9834555]

>>9832701
you have to send the data back

[Anonymous No.9834568]

>>9834469
>He was employed at a young age by the United States Air Force conducting advanced research and development at the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards Air Force Base. He later founded an organization call the TTRC, an advanced time-technology research laboratory.
So he's some airforce nobody who decided to call himself a physicist. That doesn't mean his work is valid physics.

[Anonymous No.9834569]

>>9834555

[Anonymous No.9834573]

>>9834568
>David Lewis Anderson, born in Weirton, West Virginia is a physicist working in spacetime physics, special relativity and global community service. Anderson received multiple degrees, graduating with honors in the fields of engineering and physics.

[Anonymous No.9834575]

>>9834478
Yeah, all the crack pot ideas that are false because of MATHEMATICS and sound PHYSICS. Show the math for your shit before shitposting.

[Anonymous No.9834577]

Dr. David Lewis Anderson discusses the history and trends of world energy consumption, its implications to human society, global strategy effectiveness and new theoretical techniques in spacetime physics for clean energy production that may offer hope. Anderson purports that the features of harvesting energy from curved spacetime include: abundant supply, naturally-occurring, clean, direct to source, no hazardous byproducts, minimal impact.

: "This is certainly a solution. Harvesting spacetime motive force stored in the naturally-occurring curved spacetime around our planet could be a possible solution for the future. The tools that we use to do that would be a time-warped field generator, or a time reactor." – David Anderson.

there is so much we dont know. so much that is supressed and covered-up, or discouraged from research. I have a feeling, much of /sci/ holds themselves inside a nice comfy box circumscribed by their curriculums "approved subject matter"

[Anonymous No.9834580]

>>9834575

[Anonymous No.9834583]

>>9834580
http://www.andersoninstitute.com/time-warped-fields.html
mathematics of frame dragging
same principle involved in time-warped-field-generation

[Anonymous No.9834606]

>>9834580
>>9834583
Yes, all the basic stuff said on wikipedia as well (though wikipedia, not surprisingly, goes into more detail about coordinates, important surfaces, etc.). Your link does not go into details about how time-warped field time travel happens, just lists the basics of the Kerr metric and assumes the rest of the reader (similar to all science fiction movies who even slightly care about physics). It seems like Anderson is trying to force the metric to give the results he wants (allowing negative proper time), instead of using that to rule out possibilities (that a particle withing the ergosphere must co-rotate with the interior mass with at least an angular speed of Omega).

Don't ignore phenomenology to make a theory to do something interesting when the phenomenology says it cannot happen and should place limitations on the solutions (unless you can experimentally find a scenario that defies the known phenomenology).

[Anonymous No.9834637]

>>9832701
Time dilation never speeds things up, it only slows them down.

[Anonymous No.9834647]

>>9834606
>time-warped field time travel happens,
I'm not a scientist. Only an interested party. I have listened to interviews with Dr. Anderson and he states specifically this is not currently a "time-travel" technology.
Only that his teams reearch and experiments have repeatably generated small spherical fields in which the observable rate of time can be advanced or retarded, depending on their inputs and modualiton of said fields.
It is not "time-travel"

[Anonymous No.9834682]

>>9834647
Time travel is listed in many places on that webpage you sent. They admit you would need a larger source, but they indeed are trying to push the mechanism. Either way, their math is incomplete and still haven't showed how they arrive at their conclusions. They also fail to show any actual data in their experiments in time control section, just single events that seem more conspiracy theories than actual events and either way have not been reproduced, hence not scientific. Overall, this would not pass for a poster in the physics community due to lack of explanation (equations are left unfinished before arriving at results) and there is no actual data from their experiments shown.

Main point, be careful of what you read, especially if you are not a physicist. Make sure they get to their conclusions through the equations even if you don't know what the math is saying (difficult, but may still be able to look for key quantities like time variable and how they are not showing advancing time) and, more importantly, graphs with actual data (properly labeled axes that fit with the math they show, includes error bars, appropriate fit if expected, actual data POINTS and not some generic "fitted curve" representing the data points, and a few other things you can use to detect falsified or misrepresented data even without knowing what the data is or how it was gathered).

[Anonymous No.9835050]

>>9834547
I understand the math.
I do not understand how photon travel is the ruler for Time. Time is governed by the movement of planetary bodies in our solar system. SI time is a separate concept and should be renamed so the brainlets shut the fuck up about time dilation.
everything exists in the present


Also, citation on special relativity time dilation causing Humans to "experience" less time.

[Anonymous No.9835057]

>>9834499
You're the one who needs to get a grip. You put up a non-provable, non-existent model and are trying to claim it's real science and functional. It's not. There's hacks like you who show up every day on /sci/, who use non-arguments when called out as being wrong. We are here to laugh at you and tell you you're wrong, because you're stupid and wrong.

[Anonymous No.9835146]

>>9835057
>non-provable, non-existent model and are trying to claim it's real science and functional. It's not.
what ever you say professor. the fact that a lab in NewYork has been doing this for decades shows you are a dinosaur clinging to your safe-box of pre approved dogma from school.

[Anonymous No.9835439]

>>9834478
You should have known this was retarded just based on the "controls past" and "controls future" collumns. Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.9835462]

>>9832701
Bitcoin mining is done globally online. You can't gain anything by mining in a different spacetime location.

[Anonymous No.9835481]

>>9835439
>semantics

[Anonymous No.9835498]

>>9832701
Yes you could. No gravitational field in our solar system is strong enough to slow down time by any appreciable amount. You'd need a large, supermassive black hole to survive tidal forces. Unfortunately all supermassive black holes we know of are surrounded by accretion disks that are just as hot as any star.

And before anyone asks, no, you can't do infinite calculations in finite time, i.e. hypercomputation with black holes.

[Anonymous No.9835527]

>>9835050
>I do not understand how photon travel is the ruler for Time.
It's not. What the fuck are you talking about? Who said that?
You can pass light through different mediums and slow its speed. They've slowed photons to literally the speed of smell in a lab.
You can even slow photons down to a speed lower than other moving particles in the same medium. You can see this with your naked eyes when cherenkov radiation happens. A charged particle moves through water faster than a photon can and created a bowshock that looks like an eerie blue glow.
The speed of light in a vacuum is the same speed to any observer, regardless of their frame of reference so it is a handy reference for establishing the order in which things happen.
The individual units of time felt by different people at different frames of reference don't have to match up because they will all agree on the sequence of events. You and your brother on a lightspeed cruise will experience the passage of time percieved by the other relative to their frame of reference but you will still agree on the order of events. A will lead to B will lead to C will be agreed upon by both of you because the speed of light is constant. You both see each event happen at the same time, the difference are the spacetime intervals between the happenings.
Space and time aren't separate because these things are happening in a dimension we don't visually register. You dont SEE a change in spacetime curvature because you curve around with it like you live inside a funhouse mirror and experience this as changing the amount of spacetime intervals between events.
Whatever objective metric you want to use to keep time for each person in the experiment is arbitrary as long as its the same yardstick between you.

[Anonymous No.9835530]

Guys, do you think NASA uses the hyperbolic time chamber to mine bitcoin?

[Anonymous No.9835534]

>>9835462
Finally someone who understands the technical limitations.
Although, if you could do this you could potentially use it to take control of the network and force transactions through.

[Anonymous No.9835616]

>>9834542
>Do bitcoin mining next to a whitehole

[Anonymous No.9836899]

>>9835527
>Space and time aren't separate because these things are happening in a dimension we don't visually register. You dont SEE a change in spacetime curvature because you curve around with it like you live inside a funhouse mirror and experience this as changing the amount of spacetime intervals between events.