/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9827441]

Are fetishes psychological or physiological?

[Anonymous No.9827443]

>>9827441
cute trap

[Anonymous No.9827444]

>>9827441

Why do you make the assumption that the genesis of a fetish isn't caused by a combination of psychological and physiological factors?

[Anonymous No.9827447]

>>9827444
where is a fetish located
or maybe where does it orginate?

[Anonymous No.9827457]

>>9827447
So today I was sitting on my couch and I realized I started getting horny after I made an argument to a friend that he had a hard time refuting. I recalled a time where I had an argument with some girl and wiped the floor with her and she withheld pussy, so I went home and beat my dick.

That being said, I think a fetish is a result of the combination of psychological and physiological factors. I think habituation plays a role in it as well. I've observed some distraught anons rant in agony about the fact that vanilla porn doesn't do it for them any more. So maybe poor regulatory factors also play a role?

[Anonymous No.9827461]

>>9827457
so the arousal is like a computer monitor
but the actual fetish is just the input

[Anonymous No.9827463]

>>9827443
Not trap

[Anonymous No.9827487]

>>9827441
What are the typical origins of specific fetishes?

[Anonymous No.9827488]

>>9827441
Why do I fantasize about being shrunk and swallowed whole by a woman?

Why do I fantasize about being shrunk and kept in a woman's shoe while she wears it, being drenched in her foot sweat?

Why would biology cause thoughts like these to exist?

[Anonymous No.9827492]

>>9827488
you need more help then can be given on a image board

[Anonymous No.9827497]

>>9827441
According to Psychoanalysis its psychological. A fetish is a substitution of the phalus by a idealized penis that can take any form or shape. can either be a object or a behaviour.

[Anonymous No.9827503]

>>9827497
Are you saying that engaging in acts that stimulate a fetish without the use of a sexual organ provides the same feeling as stimulating a sexual organ?

[Anonymous No.9827506]

>>9827492
Is right, but let me try:

>>9827488
>Why do I fantasize about being shrunk and swallowed whole by a woman?
I think you are enthralled with the idea of a dominating women. Where this comes from I can only venture to guess. Maybe it's the prevalence of the feminist movement in many aspects of your life, maybe you idolize those who were never good with women, the list could go on but I do not know your situation so I can only make shots in the dark. As a final point, I think you also enjoy the pain that women bring, as I'm sure you are educated enough to understand that being digested is a slow, likely painful process.

Why do I fantasize about being shrunk and kept in a woman's shoe while she wears it, being drenched in her foot sweat?
Refer to above. This question poses more biological cravings however.
You may be needy at heart. Also may be distrustful, as you want to be present in her idle life. Hopefully you don't become aware that her feet sweat more when she gets fucked with shoes on, lest you become a cuck.


Why would biology cause thoughts like these to exist?
In simple terms, you want to propagate, and will sacrifice value to do so.

[Anonymous No.9827508]

>>9827506
how does a giantess fetish aid in propagation?

[Anonymous No.9827516]

>>9827492
Natalie... she's good in these fantasies.


>>9827506
>I think you are enthralled with the idea of a dominating women. Where this comes from I can only venture to guess.

I have my own theories but let's see where you go with this.

>You may be needy at heart. Also may be distrustful as you want to be present in her idle life.
Yes.

>Hopefully you don't become aware that her feet sweat more when she gets fucked with shoes on, lest you become a cuck.

Oh, way ahead of you there. Only sometimes though. I have conflicting theories about cuck stuff or humiliation fantasies. I can enjoy them in fantasy but when I imagine such situations in reality I become quite angry want to either leave the situation or seize control.


An important aspect of my fetishes is that i had a foot fetish since I was a toddler. However when my mother realized this aroused me, even at that age, she made me stop. I hid it ever since then and became very insecure about my sexuality in general. At some point I started imagining my sexual urges being forced on me or otherwise taken out of my control. This meant that I could indulge in my desires without admitting to them and thus feeling guilty/awkward/embarrassed.

I am beginning to think the vore thing and female dominance is a perversion of my natural male instincts to attend to women and their needs. The gyno-centrism in other words.

[Anonymous No.9827517]

>>9827508
>surrendering yourself to a woman for a, albeit marginal, shot at spunkin in her pumkin

[Anonymous No.9827519]

>>9827517
Are you saying his brain was rewired under the belief that the typical path of reproduction was so unlikely that he should instead seek out a "giantess"?

[Anonymous No.9827523]

>>9827519
I am 32 and a virgin. Never dated anyone. Been hit on plenty of times in my life, but I always had critically low self esteem in my teen years.

Extremely introverted.

[Anonymous No.9827527]

>>9827523
So are you saying that you feel as though the typical path to reproduction is either impossible or less likely then a woman forcing herself on you?

[Anonymous No.9827529]

>>9827519
>>9827517
Maybe it's because I am usually around younger people but I notice quite a few guys seem to be a certain way around certain women. Maybe it's that inexperienced guys are nervous about every girl they approach, maybe it's that being a gentleman connotes so much deference to the ladies, maybe it's a mild and widespread bdsm going on, but quite a few guys seem to be submissive to women despite being bigger (even far bigger and stronger) than these women. Many a guy if not all of them simply can't talk to a "girl" in her face the way he does his friends or simply refuses to. I've not only talking about relationships but other "friends" wrapped around the finger of women as well.

I'm not trying to insult anyone here for their personality or behaviors but I feel it's weak when a man has no respect for himself and takes chivalry and niceness so far that he becomes some kind of person puppet. I think any secure, honest, and reasonable man should be able to put his foot down from time to time. This is not to say to goat out be a prick and bully. To me that is rude, overcompensating, and just as weak.

IRL I feel these men are being weaker than the women they are interacting with in every way but physically and I like the idea of them being shrunken down. I like picturing the women feeling comfortable and easily transitioning to being able to carry around and keep these men without much hesitation. I also feel that the size difference would add a bit of rationality to the dynamic from a physical perspective.

[Anonymous No.9827530]

>>9827519
If I implied that was the only motivation I would like to reconcile the misunderstanding. If we began with the assumption that overall social standing, that I'll refer to as evolutionary social standing, and niche social standing - that is, the hierarchy within a specific domain such as sports, an office, or any other domain created by people - involve different mechanisms of courtship, then yes, that is what I'm saying. It's possible that anon may be trying to reconcile conflicting urges or temptations in his mind, and is ultimately unsuccessful, at least in the context of being a dominate male.

[Anonymous No.9827534]

>>9827527
Something like that. It is something I can only barely imagine myself even attempting. If I were more open I'm sure I could get dates, but I don't think a lasting or happy relationship is possible.

I might be a bit borderline personality disorder, too. I've always pushed people away. Always had excuses as a young man as to why it would be a bad idea to try and get a gf.

>no money
>no car
>no job
>shit job
>too busy
>no interests
>we wouldn't get along

ect

[Anonymous No.9827536]

>>9827506
How does Death/Castration/Mutilation fantasies allow for reproduction?

[Anonymous No.9827538]

>>9827534
perhaps lack of social contact is not a symptom but rather a cause

[Anonymous No.9827543]

>>9827538
I am sure that is a big part of it. I realized after a time that I just don't enjoy social contact and never really have. Being very heavily introverted, I just don't need much of it and I find most casual interaction tiresome and pointless.

Of-course, that means that when I do really need to be social (presumably) my skills are very atrophied and I just don't fit in that well. That negative experience makes me less inclined to do it. Granted, as a kid I was forced to socialize a lot but I was still never good at it. Never kissed that girl at the party, say, which all my friends did. So I think as well that I just don't pick up on social cues/body language very well. I think my way of communicating and expecting communication from others is more direct. I say what I want, what I feel, what my motives are. However I have learned over time that many or most other people usually don't actually say what they feel or what they want from you. Everything is indirect and I am bad at that.

On a related note, I hate poetry for similar reason. If you have to say something then say it, don't be vague about it.

[Anonymous No.9827546]

>>9827516
>>9827529

Okay anon, I'm going to take a shot at dissecting these. I just killed my summer session and my trajectory to a top law school is growing increasing more erect, much like you do when you see feet. So here goes nothing:

>I have conflicting theories about cuck stuff or humiliation fantasies
See my response to >>9827519

>I can enjoy them in fantasy but when I imagine such situations in reality I become quite angry want to either leave the situation or seize control.
This is healthy behavior. Your discourse in following these circumstances is what is in question.

>However when my mother realized this aroused me, even at that age, she made me stop
Describe your mother's personality to me

>>9827529

>Maybe it's because I am usually around younger people
I think this may be the largest issue.

When you're an elder, you typically take on a nurturing/teacher role, but too much of this can leave you feeling unfilled or under-nurtured. Perhaps your fantasies then, don't necessarily have a basis in reality, but instead reflect your desire for courtship.

[Anonymous No.9827547]

>>9827543
have you been diagnosed with autism or any other similar disorders?

[Anonymous No.9827548]

>>9827543
>Never kissed that girl at the party, say, which all my friends did

Prolly a good thing

>I say what I want, what I feel, what my motives are
You have to adapt to social environments differently. You have to remember that each scenario must be viewed both as an encapsulated event and a continuation of your past experiences.

[Anonymous No.9827549]

Is there any type of seed that usually inspires certain fetishes?

[Anonymous No.9827554]

>>9827548
prolly not a good thing
prolly contributed to his romantic underdevelopment that rewired his sexual response

[Anonymous No.9827560]

>>9827546
>Describe your mother's personality to me

As a parent? Kind of cold and distant. Occasionally read to me but she didn't seem to enjoy it. She tried to encourage my interest in science, but we didn't do activities together too often. That's not say that she was overly cold or didn't comfort me when I was hurt as a child, but I suppose that if I wasn't in immediate need of something then I was generally left to my own devices and company.

>>Maybe it's because I am usually around younger people
>I think this may be the largest issue.


Oh, let me clarify: >>9827529
Is actually a post from someone else from a giantess forum sharing a fantasy they had. I shared it here for lulz and because it was relevant.

At my current job I am around people my age or older. However at my last job, come to think of it, I actually was around people younger than myself. A lot of late teens and early twenties ( was mid twenties at the time). As part of the job and as part of my desire to escape the depression I was in at the time I tried to be more out-going but I realized after a while that while most of my coworkers were hanging out out-side of work and sitting together at lunch I was always on my own. Took me a while to notice. That was when I truly understood that in terms of social interaction ability I was just lacking something.


I don't know how I'd behave if I actually got into a relationship. I don't think I'd be happy though. I imagine that I'd feel sufocated and stressed. I already feel that working full time leaves me too little time to enjoy myself and all my favorite activities are solitary. I don't see ever see my friends anymore (not that I have anymore, over political disagreements). I don't think I could ever really open up and expose myself (emotionally) to anyone. That's setting aside my view of female biology/pscyhology and what a mind field it is.

[Anonymous No.9827561]

>>9827547
No, but if I was diagnosed as high functioning autistic I wouldn't be surprised. I take care of myself. Do adult things just fine. However personal relationships are lacking and usually deliberately avoided.

[Anonymous No.9827564]

Whats worse a foot fetish or a hentai fetish?

[Anonymous No.9827569]

>>9827560
>my view of female biology/psychology
Please elaborate, as it would likely provide very good insight into the seeds that grew this fetish and your problems

[Anonymous No.9827572]

>>9827564
either way you should get the rope

[Anonymous No.9827574]

>>9827569
Just the way the female reproductive strategy, and thus psychology, evolved. IE: they prioritize their own well being and that of their immediate descendants over that of any partner. Their survival strategy is one in extracting resources from the male half of the species because in those primordial days females could not acquire them themselves, what with being weaker and pregnant and then saddled with a defenseless child. As we have seen with the result of female entry into politics and culture, the result has been very negative for men.

All of it rooted in biology; welfare = low risk. Liberal divorce = convenient and achieves the primary goals of resource acquisition first through marriage. Free to find an even fitter mate (drop him when a better prospect comes along).

Really, I'm not in the business of handing out red pills.

[Anonymous No.9827584]

>>9827574
Isn't that the way that females survive in nature? I am under the impression that most animals don't stick around after inseminating a female and the female employs similar tactics as you described human women as using. Let's also not forget how the black widow treats it's partner.

Can you blame anyone for utilizing their natural strategies to take care of themselves?

This feeling of unjust action by women against men, whether true or not, is likely what is feeding the beast that prevents you from making good relationships with
women.

Whether you want to agree with me or not, I would ask that you consider that you seem to have a very formalized and detailed image of women, despite yourself claiming that you have little to no experience with female relationships.

[Anonymous No.9827587]

>>9827574
>they prioritize their own well being over that of any partner
Have you considered that perhaps your desire for a female to take control is actually just a veiled desire for a woman to prove she really cares about you?

[Anonymous No.9827591]

>>9827584
>Can you blame anyone for utilizing their natural strategies to take care of themselves?

I never said anything about blame, just that it makes my entering into a relationship with them complicated and highly risky. In addition to my own fears that I'd be a bad husband and father, I fear that I'd eventually lose out to female biology and would be a divorcee paying alimony and/or child support. That's assuming I could keep a woman's interest long enough in the dating phase (doubt it). It's not a judgement, just a sober appraisal of the situation in the context of the culture.

[Anonymous No.9827594]

>>9827591
Would you say you would feel more comfortable if a woman assumed the Father figure role in a hypothetical family rather than yourself?

[Anonymous No.9827595]

>>9827587
That's possible, but I also think that's a fantasy. Though rare genetic exceptions might exist, I think it is pretty doubtful. If women cared about men the same way they care about themselves, or their children, we likely wouldn't be here today. Female reproductive strategy is very well developed, at least for prehistoric world.

[Anonymous No.9827596]

>>9827594
I don't know, I never had a father or a grandfather or any close uncles. I was the oldest child and had a half sister.

[Anonymous No.9827598]

>>9827560
What type of job do you hold?

[Anonymous No.9827599]

>>9827598
I work a menial labor job in textiles.

[Anonymous No.9827600]

>>9827596
Perhaps your brain never received the programming nessecary for strong male figures

[Anonymous No.9827604]

>>9827600
I never had any real male guidance growing up. Just observed some of it second hand since my friends lived in homes with complete families. I often imagined what it would be like to live with my mom and my real dad and a full blooded sibling as opposed to my stepfather's child.

I did have a step-father, but there was no emotional bond between us. In fact, until my mid teens we disliked each-other. That changed, ironically, around the time my mother divorced him for vague, foolish reasons.


Oh, and I should remind you, I had giantess fantasies even as a small child. Daydreamed about it before I ever knew how to masturbate or had any physical urge to do so.

[Anonymous No.9827609]

>>9827604
if you had those fantasies as a child it is practically impossible to remove them
unless you take extreme, constant, and possible harmful steps

[Anonymous No.9827612]

>>9827609
I never figured it was. Analysis is fun though.

That said, if I could take a pill just and be a typical t&a man I suppose I'd do it. It would make it easier for me to relate to other men. Might as well take a pill to care about sports too. ...and a pill to become extroverted rather than introverted.

[Anonymous No.9827615]

>>9827612
I used to hate sports but it's easy to learn to love sports
just use beer or weed if it's hard for you to get a hang of finding sports entertaining

[Anonymous No.9827620]

>>9827615
I've never tried weed but the idea of altering my mind is not appealing. I don't like beer.

I CAN enjoy base ball or basket ball on occasion, but not enough to follow the going-ons of the sport day to day or enough to give a shit to talk about it.

[Anonymous No.9827621]

>>9827594
>>9827584
>>9827572
>>9827569
>>9827546
>>9827538
>>9827506
You said you'd help me.

You have to help me.

[Anonymous No.9827633]

>>9827621
Help me

[Anonymous No.9827639]

ITT: Just-so stories.

[Anonymous No.9827646]

>>9827621
>>9827633
Es tut mir leid, but there is not much we can do.

[Anonymous No.9827647]

>>9827639
What's your fetish?

[Anonymous No.9827648]

>>9827621
I cannot save you

[Anonymous No.9827651]

>>9827648
Post more Natalie and you are helping


>being squeezed between her toes while she climaxes during sex

WANT

[Anonymous No.9827652]

>>9827621
>You said you'd help me.
>You have to help me.

That I cannot

[Anonymous No.9827656]

>>9827651
mummy is very pretty

[Anonymous No.9827658]

>>9827441
Psychological

[Anonymous No.9827663]

>>9827656
I hate it when you call her that

HATE IT

[Anonymous No.9827666]

>>9827663

[Anonymous No.9827674]

fetishes are learned

[Anonymous No.9827677]

>>9827674
So where did I learn to like feet and vore (combining them to make giantess)?

How did I learn that?

Why?

[Anonymous No.9827678]

>>9827674
learned of course, but stored, where?

[Anonymous No.9827679]

>>9827677

[Anonymous No.9827682]

>>9827554
We learn the most from opposing views.

Then could social pressure have caused this change?

[Anonymous No.9827685]

>>9827682
Did social pressure compel him to avoid female contact?

[Anonymous No.9827688]

>>9827682
People, usually subtly and indirectly, made me feel unwelcome.

[Anonymous No.9827690]

>>9827688
Do you think you shared any fault in the matter?

[Anonymous No.9827692]

>>9827685
Yes and no. Sometimes females have shown interest, though in my teens my friends were the sort of people to always undercut my self confidence and image whenever they had the chance. So I always felt I'd be laughed at for dating a girl.

[Anonymous No.9827693]

>>9827692
>Laughed at for dating a girl
Were your friends homosexuals?

[Anonymous No.9827694]

>>9827690
Yes, I think I made people feel uncomfortable because I did a poor job reading body language and some social cues. As well, I understand now that my introversion and aloofness could have often come across as arrogance and rudeness.

>Why are you so quiet?

That question always caught me off-guard because I wasn't aware I was behaving in any particular way. Just being myself.

[Anonymous No.9827695]

>>9827693
Laughed at for thinking I was good enough to date a girl and not a loser. For thinking I was not a worthless loser, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.9827696]

>>9827695
Those were not your friends.

[Anonymous No.9827698]

>>9827696
I realized that after a while and when I stopped attending high school to do independent study (which was just doing the curriculum at home), I never contacted them again.

[Anonymous No.9827703]

[Storyteller king No.9827706]

>>9827461
Astute observation. Arousal is the more commonly 'shared' state, whilst fetish is usually a more detailed subjective pseudo-sexual construct.

[Anonymous No.9827707]

>>9827703
That all seems very sensible for me. For a time I was resentful of extroverts in general for the emotional pain and developmental problems they inflicted upon me, but after a while I accepted that it wasn't done intentionally. That I could be resentful that the world wasn't made for me or else I could accept my place in it just be myself or else I could radically change who I was. I chose the middle option.

[Anonymous No.9827712]

[Anonymous No.9827714]

>>9827712
>when you bust a nut to [insert horrible thing]

[Anonymous No.9827718]

>>9827714
>Why did you want Season 5 Myrcella? I'm not doing that. Season 1/2 was much better. Grew up to be much more voluptuous and beautiful. Thick, juicy, succulent and soft breasts that you want to be mashed in between while she giggles with her friends. Then slurped out of when you try to crawl out, dazed. Toyed with and tickled by her tongue and sucked on until you cum... then swallowed whole so you can be lulled into the afterlife by her fluffy giggles and the soft churning of her stomach.

[Anonymous No.9827720]

Is fetish an escape

[Anonymous No.9827721]

>>9827720
Sometimes yeah. Just like any fantasy.

[Anonymous No.9827723]

>>9827720
Obviously

[Storyteller king No.9827725]

>>9827720
How can it be an escape if it consumes so much of your time? Are you saying that there are humans that exist without 'fetish' psychology? This includes religious types.

Fuck, even Trump is president purely because it fits his fetish. Which is blind greed (attention) + spotlight (distribution).

[Anonymous No.9827732]

>>9827725
Who says a fetish has to consume a lot of your time? Work consumes a lot more. Then sleep, ideally. Sometimes I jack off many times a day on the weekends or in the evenings during the week. Sometimes I don't.

[Anonymous No.9827733]

>>9827725
do video games not take up more of our time

[Anonymous No.9827736]

>>9827685
Interesting. Perhaps he is as beta as he seems

[Storyteller king No.9827740]

>>9827732
A fetish is just a well-described activity that you indulge/engage in regardless of social signals that other people may 'not' be interested. It's the only time we remove the social contract. A fetish is still 'a portion of any one day', or some weekly thing. It accretes as you age.

>>9827733
Video games can also be a fetish. It's what 'stimulates' you, not what makes your tingly-bits go tingle per se. Sapiosexualism for example. Driving *myself* wild over here, woof.

[Anonymous No.9827745]

>>9827740
>A fetish is just a well-described activity that you indulge/engage in regardless of social signals that other people may 'not' be interested.

Oh I see, you are one of those people. Even though you know, intellectually, that nobody uses the strict, dictionary definition of a word, you will insist on using it only for its original intended meaning and feign confusion and derision when a normal person misunderstands you.

Have you ever been diagnosed autistic?

[Anonymous No.9827747]

>>9827740
>Video games can also be a fetish.
fet·ish
ˈfediSH/Submit
noun
1.
a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.
"Victorian men developed fetishes focusing on feet, shoes, and boots"
synonyms: fixation, obsession, compulsion, mania; More
2.
an inanimate object worshiped for its supposed magical powers or because it is considered to be inhabited by a spirit.

Unless the video game is observed to, in a particular subject, either arouse sexual desire or is worshiped because it is believed to be inhabited by a spirit, by that particular subject, it is not a fetish.

[Storyteller king No.9827752]

>>9827745
*shrug* have you ever pre-computed the expected result of your intended message for the reader to subsume the message prescribed?

>Essentially, fetishism is the emic attribution of inherent value or powers to an object.

I don't get why you would start the narrative between us like this and think that I'd care about your expectations of its progress. Either you think I'm capable or not, but if you advertise some intent to dismiss then how do you expect the other party to react if not dismissively themselves? It's a question from a submissive narrative in your life here.

>>9827747
The term "fetish" has evolved from an idiom used to describe a type of objects created in the interaction between European travelers and Africans in the early modern period to an analytical term that played a central role in the perception and study of non-Western art in general and African art in particular.

The sexualization (meaning an arousal of coupling to a moment) of things beyond reproduction is how the word 'fetish' arrived in the culture. A fetish is a reproduction of ideas, which is an arousal of states.

America does not have good sex education and argue that 'their' orgasms are the best. Weird fuckers.

[Anonymous No.9827754]

>>9827441
If I had to wager a guess I'd assume nature vs. nurture applies. In a broad, overarching sense it's nature/physiological, and the more focused you get into exploring niche fetish the more nurture/psychological it becomes

[Anonymous No.9827755]

>>9827752
Sometimes I masturbate just to clear my head so I can focus on a game or documentary or some such. I've gotten in the habit of trying to get it over with as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.9827757]

>>9827752
Interesting.

>America does not have good sex education
America does not have a good education.

>and argue
"American arguments" kek

How do I get into a foreign uni

[Anonymous No.9827758]

>>9827755
That's a myth it just feels good
a placebo

[Anonymous No.9827761]

>>9827758
What's a myth, that it clears my head? It removes, for a short-ish time, the urge the masturbate.

[Storyteller king No.9827764]

>>9827755
Seems healthy to me. I've had a few ex-gf's that did this too and would ask me to leave the room because they wanted a 'self-orgasm'. Not how they described it at the time, a term I learned later. Easier to say than signal to another human you're the kind of person anyone would be stupid to not share orgasms with.

As a chemical brain wipe, can't compare.

>>9827757
With ease? I don't understand how people can fail getting into a University overseas given how many are desperate for foreign money. If you're poor there are free University's in Europe that accept International Students (memory hazy, check again later)

[Anonymous No.9827769]

>>9827764
They are probably ex-gf's because you were a bad lover. That's why they wanted to masturbate even while you were there.

Granted, I'd do that too even if I had a gf. Assuming I got over my insecurity enough to tell her about my fetishes, I'd just be smelling her shoes all the time.

[Anonymous No.9827772]

>>9827441
Maybe both?

I dunno man, I want to fuck my mom too and feel secure around her. But I think it comes from being inside the womb.

I mean, it is warm, comfy and enclosed. Then you come outside, and asume that the sudden change of environment causes us a trauma, and futher attachment to our mothers.

That doesn't explain what happens to women, but whatever, maybe Jung was right and we are space cosmic aliens.

[Storyteller king No.9827773]

>>9827769
Really? I've always wanted to meet people with weird kinks. Knew a chick that fucked a dog a few times for 'her' ex. She told me this after we'd already hooked up a few times and I just thought it was interesting.

Humans really are taught some rejection/exclusion hyper-mantras about sex. Never got why.

[Anonymous No.9827774]

>>9827773
How were you not horrified and turned off?

[Anonymous No.9827775]

>>9827773
>Humans really are taught some rejection/exclusion hyper-mantras about sex.
Elaborate

[Storyteller king No.9827780]

>>9827772
I've always found that one fascinating, because I understand it DESPITE my own mother being a woman I wouldn't even want to profit from via inheritance. She is that much of a memory I actively go 'DELETE' on.

I've seen OTHER people's mothers be really mothering/warm (like they could hold the moment softly/gently) and I can get why some men would be reduced to horny puppies that just want to make mommy happy even more. I wonder if it is more hyper-taboo for women because they are the gender that actually ensures some semblance of generational recognition.

>>9827774
She was a freak, I liked that about her. Also, when you are someone that is ONLY interested in the non-normal aspects of life (i.e. the interesting shit) you don't complain about how the experience comes to you. She also heavily suggested her kids sexual activity and her personal investment in it but I didn't encourage it as a conversation so never developed. However she has been the ONLY person that far gone, except this one other chick that had massive daddy issues. I mean 'massive', but her father was basically sexually grooming her in the WORST possible way. As in her mother had to attack her father for being too grabby whilst drunk.

Everyone sees rejects but I just see interesting angles. If normal was interesting I'd consider engaging it, but as long as everyone is still fine with simply MOANING about how Trump is evil instead of actually caring then how can I consider 'other' humans as worth my time?

>>9827775
Well, incels for example. I feel for them because I know what it is like to be of a 'rejected' conversation. My entire life is built on how quickly I can establish a trust narrative with another person, because I've been an expat my whole life. When you have a fractured upbringing and N-many other bullshit things you either kill yourself or become a narrative juggernaut.

[Anonymous No.9827782]

>>9827780
What stories do you write?

Write giantess porn for me.

[Anonymous No.9827784]

>>9827772
I'm going to venture real far out into left field and suggest that Jung and Plato were on the same playing field.

[Storyteller king No.9827787]

>>9827775
Sorry. Right, there is no 'shared' narrative for white people and sex. Everything is still pointlessly censored, despite the internet, and no public conversation is allowed even about 2girls1cup. As a society I'm fine with those girls existing and profiting off what makes them happy, what I'm not happy about is if they have reached that situation because society failed to notice their need to break so much of them just to fit in.

Incels are just men that are isolated so all they have is the narrative of the media, because WHERE else do they get their influence from? Fathers? President? Men have NO role model and all those that should be are failing in a time where a man who should be an example of nothing has now led an entire economy to its demise.

But it won't die like people think, because so many of you will still justify and blame SOMETHING as it crumbles. As a people, America will die culturally. All this LGBTQ+ etc. exists purely because there are so many people who are willing to have 'different' conversations, ones WAY beyond pedophilia and incest (strictly white people fear for some reason. Asia and Europe have no fucking problem.), but nobody wants to share conversations because they argue that THEY aren't being heard first.

I really, really feel for the incels because they're no different than intelligent women who have been overlooked by society because someone just wanted to be the center of attention and not share. If society gave men the tools to know story, they would willingly know how to become brothers.

>>9827782
Introductions2Infinity: Full-Dive VR narrative concept writer at this point. Playing off the whole 'simulation' concept and seeing if I can't guide a section of society somewhere via narrative (I'm doing it to you right now by the way, hello. I'm just brute-forcing reality to improve my skillset, apologies that I have to essentially view you as 'work/fodder'.)

[Anonymous No.9827790]

>>9827787
Has your obsession of narratives come about from your desire for control over your own life?

[Anonymous No.9827791]

>>9827780
I don't think the same applies to women, I mean, a woman worst enemy is another woman.

Maybe mother and daughter both compete for the husband/father attention, and want to actively have children with him, in the end, they grow to hate each other.

I mean, chicks without a father figure tend to grow up kind of fucked up, their whole existence must revolve around 'something/dick/' a substitute, in the same way we as man may search for a mother figure which brings us comfort.

Women are empty and they need to be filled to feel complete.

I dunno man, the things I mentioned are mostly from pseudo-science and weird ass philosophers I picked up from the internet long time ago.

[Anonymous No.9827792]

>>9827787
>incels
>intelligent
i knew there was something on the spectrum about your writing style.

[Anonymous No.9827793]

>>9827792
>hurr durr everyone should try to have sex
life is so much easier when you cut out the hard parts

[Anonymous No.9827794]

>>9827793
the problem is that you aren't cutting them out at all. not you specifically, i don't know you, but in general "incels" fucking OBSESS over the sex they aren't having and develop extremely hostile and unhealthy worldviews as a result. they're some of the most dumb and least aware people i've ever observed.

[Storyteller king No.9827796]

>>9827782
As a story structure though I think what your looking for is that big, cuddly force that you can't escape. You might also like voreporn (women devoured by snakes) or if it is a being a carer there is feeder porn (feeding your partner to get fatter)

>>9827790
Buddha! So good to see you again! (Just roll with it, it's fun I promise)

>>9827791
I've had a large number of women over countries. This isn't a brag, that is ALL I've known dude. I'm happy to say I've had a blissful life in the sense of no real responsibilities forced by society, but I've had 'nothing'. My family, parents, friends from childhood. Nothing. Empty past. I'm built from the examples I've read just like any other human, I just reached a point where I was like, "Why not try to WRITE a narrative that just includes everyone getting along, seeing as I've already tried to kill myself twice in the last month because holy shit humanity is fast becoming not worth my time kthxtrump."

Women are not 'empty', however I will state that they are far more the gender that is 'expectant to be filled'. This just means that they are predisposed to carrying shit longer than a man does, because pregnancy is 9 months. Our entire species has evolved from the reality that 9 months is our gestation period, and being able to work our society around 'that' point.

>>9827792
Everything is a spectrum and if you were autistic enough you'd have done the math by now to identify the likelihood of any practitioner being able to diagnose you with the condition if you just meet them, then you'd know it's another shitshow of 'who has the shiniest piece of paper'. If paper is enough to sway your opinion though dude then by all means, Buddha out.

[Anonymous No.9827799]

>>9827796

Why take ten words to say something when you can take a thousand, hmm?

[Anonymous No.9827800]

it saddens me to see such a great thread about sexual psychology descend into /r9k/ incel posting and namefaggery

[Anonymous No.9827801]

>>9827794
that's a fallacy of some sort sir

[Storyteller king No.9827802]

>>9827799
Well, if you can only handle a limited subset of expressions then let me know how many N-terms you like your information compressed in to for future reference. This is 'my' entertainment, the whole point is self-delusion because I don't know any human that isn't at this juncture.

[Anonymous No.9827804]

>>9827796
Is referring to me as Buddha a method of deference?

[Anonymous No.9827805]

>>9827802
>it's another autistic LARPer episide

[Anonymous No.9827806]

>>9827804
And if it isn't, is it a way of avoiding the issue?

[Storyteller king No.9827807]

>>9827800
Again you perpetuate a story and ignore the fact that you're the only one that is repeating the opinion. Why do humans advertise to humans that 'knowing how to identify them' is evil on the internet, anyway? Aren't you guys beaten hard enough in real life to at least try and make a space where people don't shit on you the way you learn to do so?

>>9827804
Of course, I defer to you as Buddha in this moment. It's more serene that way, besides, who knows? It might be the first time someone in your life has trusted you.

>>9827805
>Have you never met someone that doesn't care about opinions phrased in this manner?

[Storyteller king No.9827809]

>>9827805
Like either you're trapped in some repeated hell-story where all you can see is variations of that reality, or not wanting to find the door to someone who is obviously trying to craft an inclusive narrative. There's no such thing as a 'virus'. Stop thinking about the response to this.

[Anonymous No.9827810]

>>9827796
>You might also like voreporn (women devoured by snakes) or if it is a being a carer there is feeder porn (feeding your partner to get fatter)

Sometimes I enjoy it but to a much lesser extent than giantess vore.

[Anonymous No.9827811]

>>9827794
I think a lot of incels are not so much pining for sex as they are for emotional companionship.

[Storyteller king No.9827812]

>>9827810
Again I find that fascinating. Is the arousal identifiable by somewhere on your body? Like does it bloom in your chest/face, etc. I've found a lot of people's sexual fetishes usually have some initial signal that makes them go, "Uh oh!"

[Storyteller king No.9827818]

>>9827811
They just want to be included in a productive conversation where they can identify themselves as being the recipient instead of a burden on someone else's time (the vibe they constantly feel). I know that if you give them an inch they might start camping outside your house, but SOMEONE in society eventually has to learn how to include those guys. They're the ones shooting up the schools. If you can group a problem to where in the communication chain you're failing, you can fix the problem.

However in reality I don't care because my life doesn't include incels and I have no idea how my life would intersect with theirs. Truthfully though all humans experience some mental illness effect when a part of them feels inexpressible in the moment. Repression and depression occur when people feel like a conversation that is vital to their sense of stability is going unheard or is unattainable.

[Anonymous No.9827819]

>>9827818
>tries to sculpt an """"""inclusive"""""" narrative
>refers to incels as they while simultaneously demonstrating copious understanding

Please refer back to:
>>9827790

[Anonymous No.9827821]

>>9827818
>society needs to be nicer to the dregs
the nicest thing we could do for incels is to identify them early and humanely euthanize them before they cause violence.

>i totally don't care tho because i fuck lots of women haha right guys?
nice try.

[Anonymous No.9827824]

>>9827812
I feel it in my penis. Where else?

>>9827818
I don't know that anything can be done with them except to develop better means of detecting maladjusted kids and correcting their behaviors.

[Anonymous No.9827829]

>>9827821
it's not humane or euthanasia if they don't want to die

[Anonymous No.9827830]

>>9827829
i'm not sure you understand the meaning of humane or euthanasia, then.

[Storyteller king No.9827832]

>>9827819
Yes, I construct narratives. If you have said I've demonstrated copious understanding, then you accept the narrative I'm crafting. It doesn't matter what other opinions are now so long as you are convinced I hold some authority via narrative.

>>9827821
Sure, you could do it that way too. I'm actually all for mass purges, so long as society voted on it. With enough advance notice it would be another way to thin the herd because the smarter people will just win, because strategy. Eugenics via zombie pandemic induced by scientists with predictable patterns that kill only idiots. All for it.

>>9827824
Well some feel a warmth starting in their abdomen, others feel a rush to the upper chest and lower face. There's a bunch.

>detecting maladjusted kids and correcting their behaviors.
Yeah, I'm also fine with incels being rounded up and sent to a camp. So long as it is actually one that teaches them how to be better. It's just if ya gotta torture more of society's rejected then kill them faster. I'm really tired of how people argue 'this or that' group's death would solve everything. If it did, then do it already, so everything can be solved. I'm tired of watching society just be one big justification narrative for humans that don't know how to spot an idiot president.

[Anonymous No.9827833]

>>9827830
Dark hilarity at its finest

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

That is, sexual psycology

[Anonymous No.9827834]

>>9827824
>develop better means of detecting maladjusted kids and correcting their behaviors.
i'm not sure we have the tech to truly correct their behavior at this point. it would probably be safer and more merciful for all parties just to take them out back until civilization advances medical technology to the point where we can physically correct damaged brains.

[Anonymous No.9827835]

>>9827830
I think you just cured my incelness because I wanna copulate with you given you are a female of my status of higher (but not to high)

[Anonymous No.9827839]

>>9827835
i happen to be an unattractive female of average intellect, low standards and status. you may now proceed with copulation.

[Anonymous No.9827850]

>>9827839
If only this was IRL and you weren't gross

[Anonymous No.9827858]

>>9827850
Intelligent, ATTRACTIVE women have better things to do than post on 4chan on a Saturday night

[Anonymous No.9827866]

>>9827858
I would take a clean plain dumbo
just like me
>basically I'm a narcissist

[Anonymous No.9827870]

>>9827866
I see no point in even attempting a relationship with a woman I'm not attracted to. Doesn't need to be perfect, but she should at least put the effort into her appearance that I put into mine.

Must have nice feet, too.

[Anonymous No.9827891]

this WAS a good thread

[Anonymous No.9827901]

>>9827891
>interesting thread premise
>anon subject
>3-5 inquisitive minds attempting to examine subject anon

Then

>narrative fag and incel squad feat. ugly girl

[Anonymous No.9827969]

If anyone wants to revive the thread, these questions haven't been expanded on yet.

>>9827530
>>9827536
>>9827549
>>9827647
>>9827678
>>9827694
>>9827754
>>9827487
>>9827503

[Anonymous No.9827985]

Pregnant girls are practically my only fetish. I used to think I could explain it away pretty easily because getting a girl pregnant is the entire biological point of sex (aside from maybe bonding in a social group) but lately I've realized what turns me on is the slight body horror aspect of pregnancy, a foreign body growing and transforming the body of a "baseline" woman into something else, something that I find very arousing to consider a kind of third sex.

[Anonymous No.9828378]

>>9827985
1. you find the lady from aliens attractive
2. did you see aliens as a kid

[Anonymous No.9828451]

>>9827870
I think you will never find a woman with "nice" feet. I want that too but reality is a bitch and women don't put that much effort in their feet.
But I will not choose a woman by their feet.

[Anonymous No.9828507]

in for later

[Anonymous No.9828673]

How much does the culture of a society play into the development of a fetish?

[Anonymous No.9828785]

>>9828451
>I think you will never find a woman with "nice" feet. I want that too but reality is a bitch and women don't put that much effort in their feet.
but I'm seeing nice feet all the time during summer when girls wear sandals

[Anonymous No.9829163]

>>9828785
Maybe I have high standards for feet. I don't see that many girls with nice feet where I live.

[Anonymous No.9829199]

>>9827441
> thinking there's a difference between physiological and psychological

hoo boy someone failed psych 101

[Anonymous No.9829201]

pyschology is physiology

[Anonymous No.9829265]

>>9829199
>thinking there isnt a difference between physiological and psychological
hoo boy someone failed psych 101

[Anonymous No.9829362]

>>9829265
hoo boy someone had an incompetent professor

[Anonymous No.9830927]

is this how this thread dies?
not with a bang? But a whimper?

[Anonymous No.9830939]

>>9827488
based giantess vore poster, I've had this fetish since I was a kid, have you as well?

[Anonymous No.9831464]

>>9827441
Psychological, because they stem from a childhood need that was deprived or enumerated.
Some could argue that it is Physiological because of our brain's chemistry, but I believe more that it is a Psychological.

[Anonymous No.9831664]

In elementary school this girl liked to giggle and flash me in class. Now I have a fetish for exhibitionism and lolis.

Coincidence?

[Anonymous No.9831676]

>>9827441
I'm obsessed with shiny tights - probably because I watched x-men the cartoon as a kid, and rogue was such an untouchable hotty.

[Anonymous No.9832913]

>>9831664
chemical castration for you
you dirty pedo

[Anonymous No.9832945]

>>9830927
tripfags and namefags are cancer

[Anonymous No.9833153]

I'm not an expert but my guess would be that fetishes are psychological. One time when I was like 5 or 6 and playing Indians with my friends we kidnapped this older (under 12 y/o) girl and tied her to a tree. She would keep laughing and giggling while in her immobilized state, and so I strongly connected being tied up with being happy. Nowadays I regularly give (and sometimes receive) rope bondage at parties.

[Anonymous No.9833155]

>>9830927
Upboated

[Anonymous No.9833171]

How do I delete an unwanted (cuck) fetish?

[Anonymous No.9833198]

>>9833171
if you had before puberty you cant
if you gained it after puberty just stop watching porn

[Anonymous No.9833473]

>>9827441
yes

[Anonymous No.9833553]

>>9827441
It's psychological.
Think of your current fetishes and try to remember anything from your childhood that had a large impact(positive or negative) or faced prolonged exposure to.
>pic-related: A kids show about spies in seemingly innocuous latex suits . I had forgotten about the show and it manifested into a fetish.

[Anonymous No.9833574]

>>9827441
Fetishes are just unresolved issues from your childhood.
You act out your fetish because your subconscious obsessed quietly over the unresolved issue until it became a part of you that you never realized until adulthood.
>You loved/lusted a girl with X qualities but couldn't have her as a child so you get an X fetish
>You sympathize with a cartoon victim in ropes and wonder what she felt like at the moment so you get a bondage fetish
>You were a bully and felt guilty for your victim who you couldn't forgive so you get a sadist fetish

[Anonymous No.9834190]

>>9833574
>>9833553
Source?

[Anonymous No.9834746]

>>9833574
Settle down Freud

[Anonymous No.9835339]

>>9827441
Psychological obviously. When you jack off too much you tend to keep falling down the rabbit hole.

[Anonymous No.9835538]

>>9835339
continue

[Anonymous No.9835576]

I remember all the way back to 1st grade, before going to sleep I would imagine living in a castle guarded by snakes and shit with the green Kim possible character and having sex with her. I even somehow knew that I put my penis in her vagina at like 6 years old. Crazy stuff man.

[Anonymous No.9835578]

>>9835576
Her name is Shego and she's hot as.fuukc

[Anonymous No.9835593]

>>9835538
People masturbate to women VOMITING while eating FECES.

[Anonymous No.9836552]

>>9835538
It's like how serial killers usually start with animals. It breaks down your limits and keeps pushing you further and further until you become a cannibal or some shit.

[Anonymous No.9837209]

>>9827441
Physiological. You have foot fetish because the part of the brain that's in charge of sensing your feet is next to the part of the brain in charge of sensing your erogenous zones (lips, dick etc).

[Anonymous No.9838181]

>>9827441
>>9827443
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_Plaza
My high school biology class had a student teacher that looked like her.

[Anonymous No.9838269]

when I was a kid I had really bad eczema or something on my nuts and mom put lotion on them to help.
now, getting my balls licked feels better than getting my dick sucked.
really makes me think.

[Anonymous No.9838273]

So we're all in agreement giantess is clearly the best fetish, yes?

[Anonymous No.9838401]

>>9827488
It's because earlier in your life, your developing brain accidentally associated eating & sweaty feet with sex, somehow. Now that you're older, your brain has kept this abnormal permutations.

Good luck with the rest of high school.