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/engi/ - Engineering General Anonymous Sat Jun 23 04:23:18 2018 No.9826017 [Reply] [Original]

Trying to work up the courage to kill myself edition.

Discuss engineering, or lack thereof.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 04:25:59 2018 No.9826019 >>9826017 Relax and go watch some porn

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 04:26:51 2018 No.9826022 I'm studying network engineering.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 04:34:27 2018 No.9826032 Studying computer engineering rn. It's not hard but I still feel like an idiot for some reason. I have no idea why. Does anyone else feel inexplicably dumb all the time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 04:52:40 2018 No.9826049 >>9826019 This degree was the biggest mistake of my life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 05:00:58 2018 No.9826060 >>9826049 Not being on xvideos is your biggest mistake right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 11:24:08 2018 No.9826501 >>9826017 Take other people down with you. Work in defense. Work on killer robots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 11:39:56 2018 No.9826519 >>9826017 Lads am I going to die next semester? > Fluid mechanics > Earth processes for engineering (soil and shit) > Structural design > Engineering risk analysis (qualitative + statistic subject, 3 hrs of class a week)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 11:51:25 2018 No.9826529 >>9826049 how so?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 11:59:38 2018 No.9826537 >>9826519 Are you civil? You sound like civil engineering and if so, your major is the brunt of every joke throughout actual stem majors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 12:01:16 2018 No.9826539 >>9826537 I don't give a fuck brah, it's very lucrative where I live

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 12:06:22 2018 No.9826545 Redpill me on Chemical Engineering, what am I in for?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 12:42:31 2018 No.9826589 >>9826032 Yeah... I have weird cognitive dissonance because, on the one hand, people tell me I'm smart all the time yet I feel like such a brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 12:44:34 2018 No.9826592 >>9826545 every single working chemical engineer ive ever talked to has said its nothing but pipe selection.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 12:45:42 2018 No.9826595 >>9826589 Hope you got used to feeling that way cause I find it never really goes away.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 13:50:12 2018 No.9826689

Help me choose my EE subfield, /eng/!! Which one has the best jobs prospects?

>Power
>Telecommunications
>Control
>Astonomical Instrumentation
>Artificial Intelligence/Robotics

They're not set in stone and I can take courses from all of them and become some kind of hybrid. How good would be a Telecom/Machine Learning hybrid? (Telecom includes things such as IoT and digital signal processing) It's what I'm more inclined to atm.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 14:13:33 2018 No.9826714 >>9826519 Soil mechanics is fucking obnoxious. I'm glad my degree is focused on rocks instead of soil because from my limited exposure to soil mechanics, I hated it. It's not necessarily hard, but I would hate to have a job dealing with dirt all day.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 14:15:17 2018 No.9826716
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>>9826017
Going into my third year as an ME. It's the summer and I'm still burdened every day by the thought that I made a huge mistake choosing engineering, but I've suffered so much already and I'm afraid of the future, so I can't work up the courage to change to math. I have a 3.9 GPA right now so I'm hoping to maintain it and go to grad school for something else, but engineering has made me hate education so much that I think I won't be able to force myself to go to grad school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 14:15:50 2018 No.9826720 >>9826060 >xvideos Based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 14:31:30 2018 No.9826743 >>9826529 There are no jobs, and the few jobs that everyone is fighting for are absolute shit work that a high schooler could do and pay like $40k a year. All of that after working your ass off in school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 14:39:47 2018 No.9826748 >>9826689 >EE >job prospects Oh, sweetie...

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 14:52:07 2018 No.9826764
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>>9826743
i see i'm not the only one that sees things for what they are an is filled with regret, but i bet i'm the only one that regrets the past 9 years, and not just 4.

now i'm stuck in a shit job where i test home furnaces and ovens. it sure makes the time and effort wasted on the phd worthwhile. i guess the only good part is that once they mail out my diploma i can take pics of it with it in the trash and toilet.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 15:02:00 2018 No.9826784

>>9826716
on one hand i would suggest that you switch, but on the other hand if someone made that suggestion to me i wouldn't have listened because the sunk cost is too great.

i will give you a great tip though. try to get into a phd program and then quit with a free coursework only masters. you'll get the satisfaction of fucking over the system that exists to drain you of your life and turn you into a slave, and you get a free masters to boot.

also, engineering sucks outside of school, too. the workplace is filled with boomers that refuse to retire. there's one guy at my company that only gets paid for part time work but he still comes in every fucking day, i.e. puts in full time hours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 15:09:30 2018 No.9826793 >Choosing the pragmatic way >Ever Hahaha, good riddance with those triple digit k starting jobs while I rake in the same amount of money from my advisor's spintronics grant while studying physics. Retards

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:12:32 2018 No.9826890 Can someone explain to a non-engineer exactly why engineering is so horrible?

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:14:15 2018 No.9826897

>>9826764
>>9826784
I'm assuming I'm responding to the same anon. Thanks for your advice, I agree that my sunk cost is just way too high to bother switching at this point. Although I'm sorry to see you're suffering, know at least that you are definitely making me reconsider 4+ additional years in academia and potentially preventing a suicide.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:22:33 2018 No.9826915

>>9826890
It's shit. The schooling is piles and piles of bullshit, followed by either unemployment (which is shit), grad school (shit), or a job that pays jack shit, and is in some shithole, doing pointless, shitty work, while surrounded by assholes who are full of shit.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:30:09 2018 No.9826940

>>9826890
Because you put in more work than other STEM majors for a fraction of the understanding. Everything after sophomore year math/physics consists of pointless projects and busy work that takes up ridiculous amounts of time and labor for no good reason

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:32:08 2018 No.9826948 >>9826940 I thought doing projects was the fun part. Why is it pointless? Doesn't doing projects give you shit to put in your worthless undergrad resume?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:36:26 2018 No.9826953 >>9826948 calling them projects is generous. they're mostly lengthy coding projects, doing tedious shit in Excel, or writing reports in Word. the only thing I would consider worth mentioning on a resume is a good senior project

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:42:07 2018 No.9826965 >>9826940 This. The level of difficulty doesn't match the salary or job responsibilities.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:43:47 2018 No.9826968

>>9826890

Engineering is in a weird spot because on the one hand, it is attractive to normal school graduates aged 17-22, especially the weak and nerdy kids who might later get phds, but on the other hand, you have working class men aged 25-35 with often decades of practical experience in industries most people will never know existed looking for the next step in their career, which oftentimes requires certification or various courses.

So you end up in classes where you are expected to know abstract math, classes that teach you how to choose the physical dimensions of your equipment, classes that teach tech which has not been in demand for decades (but the Professor never bothered to change that), and classes that are so easy yet people fail them because some are just better off with manual work.

Needless to say, the experience is pretty sobering for everyone involved.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:48:18 2018 No.9826973 >>9826890 Its not, only retards who dont get Bscs have trouble

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:49:16 2018 No.9826975 >>9826973 I have a BSc and EIT and no job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 16:59:25 2018 No.9826984 How the fuck did I fail my first year classes when I got a fucking 1540 on my SAT and my absolute retard mouthbreather friend got a 1220 and is acing all of them He even offered to tutor me and I wanted to kill myself right then and there

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:01:37 2018 No.9826988

>>9826968
>major in ME
>no CAD
>actually build a project twice in 4 years (freshman honors course + senior design)
>no proof-based math, one stats course
>industry irrelevant software like MATLAB and C
>empirically based physics that consists of memorizing equations and using tabulated data

I feel like I wasted 4 years of my life desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:02:44 2018 No.9826992 File: 54 KB, 660x800, 1423534646.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9826984 Did you consider studying? This isn't high school dipshit, even many smart people need to put in 40+ hours a week at a decent university

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:04:49 2018 No.9826994

>>9826017
I'm considering dropping out and studying CS or something interesting and feasible for me like chemistry

I fucking despise EE and the (non existent) job market for it. This was the biggest mistake of my life.

How long do I have to go to trade school for to become an electrician?

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:04:58 2018 No.9826995

>>9826897
a phd in engineering is just plain not worth it. this is why you rarely see US citizens pursuing engineering phds. the best course of action is to plow through your courses as soon as you can, and 1 to 2 years in quit with a coursework only masters.

that was my plan, but then it thought things would get better (they didn't) because my lab received a shit load of grant money. at that point, the sunk cost was too great again to quit so i just saw it through to the end.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:07:55 2018 No.9827003

I can't even get a master's in engineering anymore since I got an F and a C in two upper division classes, the former due to some stupid personal shit. My upper div is back to a 3.8 now that I retook the F but my advisor says I'm fucked

Now I'm stuck with 40k/yr shit monkey jobs with a cap at 70k/yr mid career. Fuck everything. Fuck STEM. Fuck engineering.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:09:51 2018 No.9827014 >>9826519 I struggled with soil mechanics but always loved structural design. Ultimately it depends on your school and what your professors are like.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:18:57 2018 No.9827033

>>9827003
Don't worry senpai, the corporate world is the great equalizer

"We don't care whether you've got a BSc or a PhD, whether you're a family man or party animal, a fitness guru or a couch potato. Just sit down, do as you're told, and we'll put you on the same mediocre payscale escalator as everybody else. Don't forget - there's free coffee in the break room!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:20:32 2018 No.9827036 >>9827003 I have a D in 3rd year and a couple Cs and I'm still applying to grad school. Is it a waste of time then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:21:45 2018 No.9827038 >>9827033 >Design Engineer I, 5 years experience required, PE license required, Master's/PhD required, female/minority candidates only

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:24:35 2018 No.9827045 >>9827038 They will still hire a BSc, just man the fuck up and apply. How many people do you think actually meet those qualifications?

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:26:39 2018 No.9827049

>>9826988

The thing is, universities are pretty cozy compared to corporate offices or even industries like mills, factories. People know this, and they try to use any foul tricks to try to stay, because survival.

I do not despice half of monaccos billionaires as much as I despice some of my former middle-aged, incompetent "advisors" who got into their lifetime positions because they were lucky a decade ago, and think of themselves as demigods because they are able to explain how a laser diode works.

Life sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:27:04 2018 No.9827051 >>9827045 >They will still hire a BSc Yes, if you have an internal referral.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:27:10 2018 No.9827052 >>9826994 Just study machine learning/programming on the side. You can get into software development/data science as an EE. Don't listen to the CS-brainlets that tell you otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:31:20 2018 No.9827059 >>9827052 Yeah, but I'm not getting into grad school

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 17:31:47 2018 No.9827062 >>9827045 >just man the fuck up and apply What do you think I've been doing for the last year?

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 19:56:28 2018 No.9827226

>>9826948
bruh, I don't think anybody will look favorably on me if they see "filled a tank with air to determine its specific heat" or "performed Charpy impact testing on materials then looked at fractures to see if the materials are ductile or brittle" on my resume. these are the kinds of projects people have to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 20:50:02 2018 No.9827319 Is being Filipino a positive/negative for applications? I've heard some Filipinos check off Pacific Islander instead of Asian on the checkboxes, but that seems a bit disingenuous.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 21:11:08 2018 No.9827359
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>>9826017
I'm studying some meme shit called electronics and instrumentation engineering. Have no interest in it and can't change majors in my country. Already got 2 backlogs in the first semester and probably failing most of my subjects in the second one(results aren't out). I just hope to complete my degree on time and get the fuck away from this field.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 21:17:32 2018 No.9827371 File: 200 KB, 407x652, 7Bgs6uW.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9826545 After graduating or for course work? Also where are located in the country/where do you want to be, if you're even in the states

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 22:14:10 2018 No.9827445 >>9826748 Any proof this is the case or do you all just parrot each other?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 22:35:41 2018 No.9827471 File: 59 KB, 736x552, its-a-wonderful-life.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jimmy Stewarts character in "It's A Wonderful Life" dreamt of being a civil engineer. He had to "settle" for owning a bank instead. How's that make you feel /engi/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 22:38:15 2018 No.9827476 >>9827445 Look at the number of fresh graduates vs the number of annual job openings. Of those openings, only a small fraction (10-15%) are intended for fresh graduates.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 22:39:17 2018 No.9827479 >>9827471 >owning a bank Maybe you should come back to real life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 22:39:41 2018 No.9827480 >>9827476 no only that, but those jobs for fresh graduates are virtually all by referral only. so if you're applying as an outsider you're fucked.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 22:40:18 2018 No.9827481

>>9826689
Power is always going to have good job prospects. it's not glamorous and considered "blue collar" by other disciplines. much akin to doing HVAC as a mechanical engineer or waste treatment as a civil. but you will always have a comfy ass 100k a year job.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 23:17:23 2018 No.9827539

>>9827481
Yeah I wouldn't mind a comfy ass job in power, but I imagine that the actual work you do is mind-numbingly boring, dealing with Excel at low-level, and a lot of social networking at higher level (this is my undergrad imagination, someone that actually works/has worked at power correct me please). Most of the uni coursework for the power specialization also seems boring and I'd rather study something else desu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 23 23:27:13 2018 No.9827550 >>9826519 Same but with with concrete structures instead of risk analysis.

Anonymous Sat Jun 23 23:37:29 2018 No.9827571

>>9827539
it is boring. you are clicking around in easypower or excel or dealing with logistics and safety concerns. with that being said, the two power guys i work with put in less than 30 hours a week and drive M series BMW's to the golf course. i don't know how much personal satisfaction you need to extract out of your job to be happy so...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 06:58:49 2018 No.9828104 >>9827476 Not that I don't believe you but where can I find these numbers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 09:41:01 2018 No.9828247 File: 119 KB, 521x544, 1520711256962.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw Raytheon missile systems keeps trying to recruit me Do these guys seriously think I went to college just to become a baby-killer?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 12:27:53 2018 No.9828428 >>9828104 Google.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 12:36:59 2018 No.9828441 >>9828247 don't do it. those places are depressing af.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 19:55:51 2018 No.9829195 >>9828104 as far as the percentage of entry level positions goes, go to indeed and search "electrical engineer" or whatever discipline in the area you live in. look at the number of job postings then filter by "entry level" and check again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 21:38:36 2018 No.9829307 >>9828104 >>9829195 The best part is when there are twice as many fresh graduates as there are total job openings in the entire field. :^)

Anonymous Sun Jun 24 21:57:55 2018 No.9829334

So from what i can see the job prospects are bad in US, is it like that on all the world?

I recently got a scholarship to go to graduate school in Japan. And have been thinking if its worth it to pursue a career in academia.

Anyone with experience on academia outside US?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:01:26 2018 No.9829339 I'm glad people are waking up to EE being absolute and utter shit. I switched to CS and never looked back. Actually found a job while all my EE friends haven't found anything a whole year after graduating.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:02:17 2018 No.9829341 >>9826017 >or lack thereof I'm experiencing a lack of life engineering. I'm done with being shit. Any tips?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:05:57 2018 No.9829347 >>9826017 Kill me first. Because you guys/grills are a bunch of mopey assniggers. Engineering is awesome as fuck, lets change the fucking world. god dam eeyore sad donkey fags.

>>	Boomer Sun Jun 24 22:10:23 2018 No.9829352 S H I T T E R S

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:12:00 2018 No.9829353 >>9829347 enjoy your no jobs also engineering is absolutely insignificant compared to proper hard science

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:16:46 2018 No.9829361 >>9829347 t. naive high schooler FIRST robotics memelord >>9829352 t. 27 year old boomer that works at Intel in San Diego

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:18:56 2018 No.9829365 >>9829361 So what are you? Let me guess, economy major?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:19:21 2018 No.9829366 >>9826545 No jobs

Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:19:26 2018 No.9829367
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>>9826589
That's because you're in the 120-140IQ dunning kruger dip. You are smart enough to realize you're dumb, but not smart enough to actually be smart and achieve something. Welcome to the club.

But hey, at least you can make a living off the fact that normies are so fucking retarded they can't even write a basic html page or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:19:47 2018 No.9829368 >>9829365 A licensed, unemployed engineer.

Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:21:40 2018 No.9829369

>>9829365
engineers are unironically going obselete quick

CAD has turned mechanical engineering into a 90iq brainlet field for monkeys to draw 3d models and the wages have plummeted. Other fields are soon to follow. The day the average person can write a program through assitant software is the day all the programmer monkeys die of starvation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 22:29:15 2018 No.9829381 Best career for someone who loves logic, reasoning, strategy without too much physical creation? I’m thinking something along the lines of a math degree, but I don’t know the careers that well. I wanna know what minor I should aim for though, if any.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 24 23:53:15 2018 No.9829537 >>9829369 Thats why you study chemical engineering, duh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 25 00:53:19 2018 No.9829630 >>9829537 >anon complains about bad job prospects >hey bro, you should study the subfield with the worst prospects of all lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 25 09:26:05 2018 No.9830135 >>9826743 That's pathetic... I took my Bachelor's and went to grad school, I'm getting 80k +free tuition for a master's then 90k+tuition for 3 years after that for my PhD.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 25 09:32:09 2018 No.9830137 >>9830135 And that's per year employment+grants. I'm not sure how everyone is riding the strugglebus. Granted I am also at a top 5 university for mechanical engineering, so my prospects are better to start.

Anonymous Mon Jun 25 11:00:26 2018 No.9830219

This thread is kind of strange. I work for a university and I'm seeing the opposite of what everybody is complaining about. We have companies beating down our doors wanting ME, CE and EE grads. There are a number of juniors that are getting offers before their senior year. Granted it's a smaller school, but the only students that I can think of who don't have full time jobs are going to grad school.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 25 11:52:10 2018 No.9830286 >>9830219 /sci is to getting jobs as /r9k is to getting laid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 25 12:01:29 2018 No.9830306 >>9830286 It all makes sense now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 25 12:16:12 2018 No.9830338 >>9830219 Where are you at? This couldn't be further from the truth where I am.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 25 12:17:36 2018 No.9830343 Why not major in med if you want money that bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 25 12:28:55 2018 No.9830371 >>9830338 Midwest

Anonymous Mon Jun 25 17:42:59 2018 No.9830941
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>turns out you really do want that capacitor near the power supply

Pic very related:
Graphs of the absolute current through a stepper motor phase
Time is the time for a full step
HS means halfstepping was used

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 00:38:52 2018 No.9831565 Can any of you lads recommend good texts for Materials Science with plenty of math behind it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 06:31:38 2018 No.9832035 File: 1.28 MB, 1920x1080, 68174891327489324.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >2 Screw threads for each pin >No screwdriver notches for grip >Cylindrical bolts for minimum wrench grip Is there any example of worse design than this?

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 06:46:12 2018 No.9832052

Mech engineering grad student here. I just realized a while ago that I have no idea why the no slip condition is valid at low knudsen numbers. I'm specializing in thermofluids, I should know this....
Anyone care to elaborate?
>inb4 some brainlet civil engineer responds with "coz friction make the fluid stick to the surface"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 06:57:12 2018 No.9832067 >>9830219 It's because /sci/ is full of high schoolers and freshman turds who just got a c in calculus 1 repeating what they overheard chad say

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 13:10:07 2018 No.9832593 >>9830219 Same >>9830338 Upstate New York

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 13:23:06 2018 No.9832605 >>9832052 The no slip condition is always valid if you zoom in far enough. :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 20:53:09 2018 No.9833349 >tfw OP is probably dead by now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:05:39 2018 No.9833382 What the fuck does it mean when a job posting says "demonstrated experience in"? What the fuck are these bastards looking for? How do they expect me to demonstrate my skills in text on a damn resume?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:16:06 2018 No.9833401 EE here in the US nuclear industry if anyone has questions about why you shouldn't join the nuclear industry

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:17:41 2018 No.9833403 >>9833401 Why shouldn't I join the nuclear industry?

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:21:53 2018 No.9833408

>>9826519
Semester strategy:

>Fluid mechanics
If it's intro, get the pdf of the textbook and textbook solutions, do 3 questions a night, if you can't get it in 10 minutes while reading your notes then look at the solution to get one step ahead and continue on.

>Structures:
Start the assignments the day you get them, they are fucked

>Statistical
Hopefully proper statistics, khan academy is Ur best bet for sensitivity analysis ect

>Soil mechanics
Read/watch actual mini eng docs on projects related, it's such a specific subset that all the terminology can go over your head, so it's best to get used to understanding what the words mean by watching people use them, you get ahead in the course without braining yourself over a book

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:22:56 2018 No.9833410

>>9833403
>no new plants really being built aside from like 1 or 2
>existing plants closing like mad
>pretty much all the plants are getting close to the end of their lifecycle most aren't opting for license extensions and if they do its not going to be for the rest of your career

Otherwise its not so bad as long as you dont mind snail's pace projects and a shit load of paperwork and justification for simple changes

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:34:00 2018 No.9833436

>>9826890
I'll tell you why, because the world isn't all sunshine and rainbows and the natural state of all designed things is not to work. It's only through constant consideration and design does anything ever actually work the way you want it, and it rarely works to 100% satisfaction, meaning you can put in countless hours of hard brain power to solve the problems that only exist in the gap between theory and practical application and get a product that is sub par in both areas.
For this reason compromised designs are produced with an entire team for long time periods to get anything sellable. Except as an undergrad you are consistently paired with other people like you, unprofessional young blokes trying to have a good time while getting hit with 4 subjects of completely unrelated material. Which means it becomes an arms race of people doing the least work possible, demoralising everyone evenly.
Some people picked it for the money, and struggle because the motivation to do work in difficult tasks is nil when you aren't getting payed for 4 years. Some picked it for the love, and spend 6 months at a time doing unrelated unfunded half-thought-out projects that sucks all their personal time out of them, and quickly lose the passion for it. Everyone who does it is slightly autistic too, no matter how cool they seem.

All that being said, you can't help but learn something, it really fundamentally changes how you quantify the world around you, so most of the stereotypes end up being pretty spot on

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:46:13 2018 No.9833460 File: 29 KB, 741x568, 1481040184009.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9826017 >systems engineer >my job literally exists because people can't document things properly What am I supposed to do if they catch on?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 21:59:16 2018 No.9833482 >>9826519 I'm actually disappointed that the /sci/ wiki has no section for civil engineering.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 22:00:30 2018 No.9833484 >>9833482 civil/structural is magic as far as im concerned

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 22:28:56 2018 No.9833527 >>9826017 Mech E grad here, 2.6 gpa A bit of intern and paid position experience How fucked am I

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 22:29:59 2018 No.9833529 >>9826032 >feeling dumb You want to understand every bit and byte, but never will.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 22:31:41 2018 No.9833532 >>9833527 very

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 22:32:08 2018 No.9833533 >>9826519 >fluids Watch out. That's the hardest entry upper div class there is. Aerospace majors have it fucking ROUGH.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 22:56:02 2018 No.9833561 >>9833527 totally fine. you'll fuck around at some low tier company for 3 years and upgrade to a fortune 100 ez pz.

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:20:53 2018 No.9833605

Hey guys.

About to graduate (next summer) bachelor's eng in mechanical. I have a really good prof I would like to ask if he would consider taking me as a grad student after I finish. I'm wondering because I've heard this before... Do professors pay their grad students a salary?

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:30:37 2018 No.9833622
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>>9826519
You are like a little baby. Watch this.

>machine design
>fluid mechanics 2
>applied thermodynamics
>heat transfer
>advanced catia
>fundamentals of aerospace engineering (class that covers the first two-three years of an aerospace engineering program in one course)

18 hr of lecture per week
16 hr of tutorial/lab per week

Finals are back to back for five of the courses, the aero one is a couple days after that marathon.

This summer I've been pic related every day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:34:13 2018 No.9833627 >>9828247 Can I have your offers? There are 7 billion people in the world, we could always do with a few less.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:37:10 2018 No.9833630 >>9832035 I can't think of one right now. They aren't even comfortable to wear.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:38:53 2018 No.9833636 Are cover letters really so important?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:38:57 2018 No.9833637 >>9833622 you sure are in a hurry to not get a job

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:39:28 2018 No.9833638 >>9833436 >that 3rd paragraph Blimey, truth hurts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:41:28 2018 No.9833643 >>9833527 >>9833532 >>9833561 Forgot to specify, by grad I meant I just graduated. I'm not doing grad work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:43:09 2018 No.9833647 File: 40 KB, 400x402, 1489031845887.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9833636 >not striving for excellence

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:43:18 2018 No.9833648 >>9833643 we know

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:43:30 2018 No.9833649 >>9833622 Fucking Aeros are all a bunch of masochists. What the hell is wrong with you dude? What are your personal interests and hobbies? What do you do for fun?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:44:32 2018 No.9833651 >>9833648 ...because 2.6 doesnt get you into gradschool, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:44:55 2018 No.9833652 >>9833636 Every interview I ever got I didn't send a cover letter

Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:47:30 2018 No.9833657

>>9833651
well also you wouldn't be talking about about intern experience and paid positions if you were looking to go to grad school, or even if you were in grad school for that matter
and if you were in grad school you literally could not have a 2.6 GPA they'd kick you out long before

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:48:32 2018 No.9833659 >>9833652 Fuck it then, no more cover letters. Except for Aerospace Companies because I already have a good aerospace based cover letter written up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:51:19 2018 No.9833663 File: 9 KB, 220x191, Flagg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9833651 dude just buckle in and get ready to be a cubicle cuck doing HVAC or plumbing for the rest of your life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:52:39 2018 No.9833667 >>9833659 >not having a generic cover letter template you copypaste keywords into.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 26 23:59:16 2018 No.9833675 >>9833652 I've had this same experience, though I haven't managed to land a job either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 00:01:11 2018 No.9833679 >>9826545 second year here, and i dont know wtf im doing with my life

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 00:02:12 2018 No.9833685

>>9833637
I just want my fucking ring and degree already. Anyway, this is the standard course schedule for my program.

>>9833649
I'm mechanical and my school offers an alternative degree for mechanical engineering that catches you up on aerospace engineering in third year and then gives you the advanced aerospace courses in fourth year. I'm in midterms right now, I got the highest score in my fluid mechanics class (I had to git gud fast because we used the same principles in the aero class), I think I did well in the aero test, and I just aced the machine design test today. Thursday is thermo, Friday is HT, and Saturday is CATIA. I prepared for thermo over the reading week and I'll do a bit more review tomorrow, heat transfer I need to really study for tomorrow and Thursday, and Catia is easy but I better brush up after heat transfer exam on Friday so I'm not rusty.

Then I have to finish familiarizing myself with xFoil so I can start learning AVL (these are computer program tools for fluid mechanics and airfoil/wing design) next week because I'm on a team building planes for a competition.

I told my gf I'd take her to the beach on Saturday. Haven't had time to go and do something nice but since I'll be all caught up after the midterms are over, I'll be able to have a little relaxation time.

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 00:09:27 2018 No.9833699

>>9833649
>What the hell is wrong with you dude?
I didn't really think my situation was that messed up until I described it just now.

>What are your personal interests and hobbies? What do you do for fun?
I used to play videogaems, I was enjoying Monster Hunter World and Bloodborne a lot before this semester started and at the beginning but I stopped playing completely and actually just unplugged my PlayStation because I don't want it to sit in the living room and possibly get stolen.

I dusted off my violin recently but I don't really find a lot of time to practice. It's good though, I wasn't playing at all before and now I'm sounding respectable again.

Sometimes I put a show like Rick and Morty, Adventure Time, Bob's Burgers, Archer on while I eat or when I'm in bed but I haven't done that in a while either. I'm hoping that since I'm caught up, I can just do review each day and update my handwritten Formulae and Review documents and so it doesn't get backed up and leaving me to catch up having no spare time.

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 00:09:38 2018 No.9833700

>>9833460
Seriously my job exists because halfway through program's life the brass realizes they've lost things and need to keep track of shit and they need me. What do I do if they realize that if they keep proper documentation my job is unnecessary? I am an excel monkey who took upper level electricity and magnetism, differential equations, and more programming classes than God himself envisioned. Kill me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 03:56:12 2018 No.9834022 >>9833605 Answer me.

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 04:17:25 2018 No.9834047

>profoessor writes [math]\cos 2 \theta[/math] and tells us that it was supposed to be [math] \cos ^2 \theta[/math] only after the exam and marks the item wrong anyways
>blames us for not asking
>professor uses [math]\frac{1}{\sin \theta}[/math] as a retardedly unique way of writing [math]\arcsin \theta[/math]
>professor only has a gradeschooler's understanding of english so multiple choice exams are an absolute nightmare
studying in a third world country is sufferimg

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 04:19:14 2018 No.9834051 >>9834047 Complain to your dean idiot. Or just egg your profs car every day until he stops being a prick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 06:18:22 2018 No.9834146 File: 2 KB, 121x91, .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9833484 >Civil engineering is magical Brainlet or shitpost? t. ME

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 08:21:35 2018 No.9834301 >still in lower div community college classes >transferring to uni Fall 2019 >want to do EE or CE >probably CE how fucked am I, job wise?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 08:53:44 2018 No.9834332 >>9827571 I want to here more, im going into EE but I want my job to have a high pay( I don't care about the work), then i'll use my money to fund my passions, building robots and the like

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 10:26:14 2018 No.9834447 >>9834022 >>9833605 PLEASE respond Actually we got a presentation on master's studies today in our lecture time, what a coincidence. Please give insight if you can.

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 10:36:36 2018 No.9834463

>>9833700
Bruv you an engineer, you can do amazing things, I'd suggest making a YouTube account and a blog that can simplify concepts down to normie level(i.e how to usefull isDE,LA,or CALC to society) and proceed to make projects that build upon those concepts. If that doesn't work get a cushy government job.. or learn to write algos for the stock market.

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 10:45:19 2018 No.9834481

>>9833605
It totally depends on the professor and how many grants he has. If he's swimming in grants, he might pay every master's student he has (though he'll probably be picky on the students he chooses to take on). Other professors will pay only PhD students. You gotta ask him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 11:44:26 2018 No.9834561 >>9834481 Thanks, I'm planning to hit up my favored prof soon during his advising hours to ask him about these things but I just wanted to know if asking if he pays his students a salary would be out of left field.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 16:00:38 2018 No.9834978 anybody here work as a process engineer at a semiconductor fab or similar? I'm a recent cheme MS grad, just got an offer from intel. would be nice to hear from someone working at one of these places.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 16:17:56 2018 No.9835004 Finishing my last semester for my mechanical engineering BAS. Got a job in a research lab here focusing on material science. Professor offered to pay for my masters in ME. After that its off to get my MBA. Life is good.

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 16:23:58 2018 No.9835014

>>9826890
Anon, don't listen to these faggots.

I LOVED getting my BAS in Mech. E.

Its apparent these other fags didn't know what they wanted to do and just jumped into engineering.
If you have passion for it, you will love it.
These brainlets should have become statistic majors.>>9826915
>>9826940
>>9826953
>>9826965

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 16:26:09 2018 No.9835019 File: 22 KB, 639x470, XgbX3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9826032 Congrats friend, you've made it past Mt. Stupid.

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 16:51:15 2018 No.9835044

>>9835004
>>9835014
for anyone wondering, don't listen to this faggot. he's a fresh graduate that thinks he knows what the fuck he's talking about. the fact that he wants to get two masters alone tells you that he's a fucking moron, much less that he's excited about working in a national lab.

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 18:58:09 2018 No.9835245

>>9826689
what >>9827481 said is true but can be soul-crushing when you want to overachieve.
If Telecommunications is signals/systems with basis in RF then go for it but just signals/systems can also be mind-numbing in number crunching ways. i. matlab monkey
One thing that you should look into if you like the idea of astronomical instrumentation and related is EMI-related courses because that is fairly indepth. For something to start with EMI just read up on MIL-STD 461E or D version for some taste of compliance engineering for given products and systems.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 19:13:49 2018 No.9835285 >>9826716 I was in this same exact position as you and recently switched to CS. Best decision I've ever made.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 19:21:13 2018 No.9835308 >>9830219 Rose-Hulman?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 19:33:14 2018 No.9835338 How do people get PhDs without going insane? What the fuck how can you go to school for 6 years and then keep going to school for another 4? TEN FUCKING YEARS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 19:37:35 2018 No.9835347 >>9833667 Would you mind posting your template? My cover letter is pretty mediocre right now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 19:39:08 2018 No.9835351 >You will never work at Oak Ridge It's not fair, bros.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 19:39:55 2018 No.9835353 File: 12 KB, 168x300, download (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9835338 Losers that try to delay going out into the real world as long as possible because they know they probably can't handle it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 19:50:11 2018 No.9835366 File: 44 KB, 298x260, 1530133059328.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9835351 >you will never work

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 19:55:45 2018 No.9835375

>>9835338
i took 4 for my undergrad and 5 for phd. i would have finished phd in 4 if my adviser wasn't a cunt.

yeah, it sucks pissing away your 20s, but what sucks even more is that once you're done you realize that the workplace sucks even more. there's no real reward for the work, unless you're one of those people that is obsessed with what they do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:05:58 2018 No.9835399 File: 11 KB, 360x334, 1530120465654.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9826017 Is CE considered a subordinate study to CS?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:09:20 2018 No.9835405 >Aerospace Engineering >2.5 GPA >no internships >graduating next spring How fucked am I, lads?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:10:39 2018 No.9835409 >>9835308 We're not that autistic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:11:17 2018 No.9835413 >>9835405 Get your rope ready. At least I had a 3.2 and some research experience.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:12:47 2018 No.9835417 >>9835405 You have no work experience at all?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:18:04 2018 No.9835425 >>9835417 Nothing engineering related, mostly web dev. I'm probably either going to not use the degree and keep doing that or join the military. Still gonna be sending out those applications though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:21:37 2018 No.9835428 >>9835425 are you a spic or nigger? because i legitimately don't understand how you can have a 2.5 GPA unless you're a subhuman. even the dumbest whites and asians would still stay north of 3.0 if only just barely.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:23:26 2018 No.9835432 Is engineering physics a meme?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:23:31 2018 No.9835434 >>9835428 >he goes to a university with grade inflation

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:30:47 2018 No.9835447 >>9835434 >he thinks his university doesn't have grade inflation that answers my question.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:33:35 2018 No.9835449 >>9835447 >implying I'm the 2.5 GPA anon The average at my uni was in the low 3.0's.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:36:37 2018 No.9835451 >>9835449 yes, and by definition a "B" is not an average grade, so your university also has grade inflation. at 2.5 he would be well below the average regardless of what university he attended.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 20:40:49 2018 No.9835457 >>9835434 >>9835428 >>9835447 >>9835449 >>9835451 The name of your university is often cause for employers to overlook GPA. UC Davis here.

>>	pwease respond Wed Jun 27 20:41:03 2018 No.9835458 >>9835399 FUUUUUCK HELP MEEEE! MY STUDENT ASS IS ON FIRE!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 21:09:29 2018 No.9835491 >>9835432 No. it lets you meet the legal definition of an engineer enough for you to get all the credentials while not cockblocking you from a higher level physics education.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 21:19:34 2018 No.9835502 >>9834561 Nah, it's a fair question, especially in engineering

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 21:38:23 2018 No.9835531

Mechanical/Aero fag here
>had administrative problems during my transfer to a new school
>A lot of unnecessary stress and demotivation as a result
>Abysmal GPA from my first three semesters at this school
>third year, second semester now
>Everything in terms of administration is in order
>Rly rly good grades
>I'm back in the fall, winter, and summer and I will graduate
If I maintain a nice GPA over this and the remaining 3 semesters, I am just going to put that GPA on my resume. Anyone have a problem with this? Also it's best to get a master's right guys? Think it's reasonable to spin the bad GPA and the improvement in such a way they will only consider my GPA in these terms?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 22:19:45 2018 No.9835615 >>9835531 How much work experience do you have? Honestly, engineering isn't really worth it anymore because 9/10 paths lead to unemployment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 27 22:58:28 2018 No.9835655 >>9835615 Lifeguarding, lol.

Anonymous Wed Jun 27 23:07:30 2018 No.9835667

Oh I am laughing at you amerimutts. Here in Chile we have a thriving economy and being an engineer is guaranteed >95% employability first year out of university (at least if you're not from a shitty private university) and the wages, considering the cost of living, are pretty high in all engineering disciplines, and specially in mining engineering, which will let you become literally rich at a young age.

Fields such as machine learning and big data are just getting started here so I'll have the opportunity jump right on track when it's most profitable. U jelly gringo?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 01:17:01 2018 No.9835821 >>9835667 Can I come over as a Westerner, work as an engineer and get a qt latina gf?

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 01:34:24 2018 No.9835849

>>9835821
Considering Chileans are racists as fuck and hate their own heritage, meaning they love gringos and "the white men" and talk shit about fellow Lantin American immigrants but suck euro-US cock every chance they can, yes you could. But learn Spanish because our general population can't speak English.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:23:34 2018 No.9835919 >>9826017 Anyone here read "The Making of an Expert Engineer" by James Trevelyan? So many of my professors worship Trevelyan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:39:08 2018 No.9835932 >>9834301 Depends on the school you go to, your GPA, and what kind of extra-curricular work you've done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 02:44:56 2018 No.9835938 >mech eng >enter a machine learning competition with a mathematics friend >he does all the work >we win >now I have a machine learning job and have no idea what I'm doing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 03:25:43 2018 No.9835958 >>9835655 You are fucked.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 03:26:45 2018 No.9835960 >>9835938 Lel, was it a Kaggle competition? What did you have to do, and why did he need a MechE? >tfw low-key trying to go this job route

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 04:10:40 2018 No.9835981 File: 63 KB, 592x1040, helloexport1527354412475.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9831565 bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 05:27:17 2018 No.9836023 Is the maths in Computer Science easier than in Electronics Engineering?

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 06:43:46 2018 No.9836089
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>>9826716
Why do you hate ME? Im thinking of majoring in ME and have a genuine interest for it to the point where im teaching myself as much math physics and chemistry that i can before the year ends so i can go in prepared the following year when i go into uni.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 07:09:50 2018 No.9836114 >>9834047 its obv cos 2(theta) isnt the same as cos^2 (theta), first doubles the angle, second squares the function itself. as for arcsin, its also writen as sin^-1 which is the same as 1/sin

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 07:11:22 2018 No.9836117 File: 137 KB, 804x802, it_hurts.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9835958 How am I supposed to have job experience if getting a job requires having job experience?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 07:12:26 2018 No.9836118 >>9836089 It's just a disinformation meme

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 10:15:15 2018 No.9836341 >>9836089 ME is awesome, go for it. Also skip the chemistry, you'll have it your first year then never use it again. Focus on calculus and statics if you want a good start.

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 11:15:12 2018 No.9836401

>>9835960
It was a competition organised by one of the engineering clubs at my uni in collaboration with a major engineering company.

The task was to do with applying machine learning to project management and none of the other teams did machine learning.
There was even a team of entirely data science masters students and they just did some statistical regression and not machine learning.
Most of the other teams were made up of mech eng like myself and just used excel to find some correlations.
Wasn't much competition but I was lucky to team up with a friend of mine who is a machine learning expert.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 11:41:07 2018 No.9836422 Why is civil engineering so despised here, anons?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 12:51:16 2018 No.9836524 Software engineering here. Graduating next year, want to get my PE. Where the FUCK do I find a company that wants an SE but where my supervisor will already have a PE and I can be practicing real engineering?

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:43:37 2018 No.9836614

>>9826017
Okay, I just finished my bachelors in ME and will start masters next semester in the EE department studying materials science related stuff with focus on some EMag and energy conversion materials. But I can't shake off the feeling that I might be making a mistake doing the EE degree though. Is having some expertise in electromagnetism and other EE stuff considered good or bad in the eyes of employers? or should I go back to ME, which will push me 6 months behind, but that's okay I guess. Please /sci/, I need to know.

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:50:23 2018 No.9836634

>>9836089
because ME attracts all the retards. all the "car guys" and all the hands on/tinkerer guys flood to ME. worse yet, all the guys that didn't go straight to college and first went into trades also flood into ME once they decide to go back to school. the former group half asses the courses, but they "socialize" with everyone and tend to find someone to guilt trip into giving them a job. the latter group will have years of experience that may be relevant and typically do very well in courses, so they are top candidates for jobs. this makes finding your first job highly competitive and difficult. when you do land your first job it will most likely be some drafting bullshit at that.

additionally, ME coursework starts out fine, but a lot of the later courses heavily rely on empirical correlations/formulas and tabulated data. the physics and math is hidden behind some easy to use and apply equations, or just outright given as raw data in a plot or chart. if i had to do it again i would have done CS + finance or CS + applied math. much better job opportunities with much better pay, and more interesting jobs, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:56:26 2018 No.9836647 >>9836118 >>9836341 t. naive college students

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 13:57:40 2018 No.9836649 File: 481 KB, 1259x1600, 1529045289233.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How many of you passed the FE exam and have your EIT license?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:17:44 2018 No.9836822 File: 253 KB, 1863x1242, 1478025208829.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9826545 Just go MechE, 4th year here, thank me later.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 16:32:02 2018 No.9836846 >>9836822 Do you have a job lined up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 20:14:49 2018 No.9837210 I'm doing grad studies in material science. How's the market for this degree? Am I screwed?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 20:25:26 2018 No.9837227 >>9836341 This

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 20:27:06 2018 No.9837230 File: 127 KB, 1138x640, 1527752566579.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9833622 Inspiring my dude. I hear ya... .

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 20:49:17 2018 No.9837251 File: 13 KB, 500x259, 1528568450042.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who Bachelor of Technology brainlet here?

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 20:52:55 2018 No.9837258
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>Power Electronics I
>Analog Electronics III
>Control Theory Fundamentals
>Industrial Instrumentation
>Signals and Systems
>Microcontrollers II
>Industrial Networks

I'll just fucking end it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 21:03:10 2018 No.9837270 >>9836422 I would like to know too. I'm considering applying to a Masters in Civil for transportation engineering.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 21:16:34 2018 No.9837292 >>9837270 It’s just haters. Construction is rad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 21:53:59 2018 No.9837349 >>9836524 Nowhere t. aerospace engineer

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 21:56:13 2018 No.9837354 >>9835019 This Not enough people realize where their at

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 21:58:15 2018 No.9837356 File: 934 KB, 252x292, 1444190555398.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9836649 I did, but have yet to find a PE to work under (aerospace). Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 21:59:03 2018 No.9837357 >>9836634 ME here- can't argue. But damnit I love getting up from my desk every now and then and getting my hands dirty. ME is real engineering imo. Will never say it's the brightest or hardest, but it's hands down the funnest.

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 22:00:32 2018 No.9837358
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>>9837270
>>9836422
Because it's easy and we dislike that you get the same title as us for enduring very little in comparison. We're salty that you have it easy and get decent work.

TL:DR IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 22:02:06 2018 No.9837360

>>9836422
Everyone views you as the easy course. You're later courses are just expounded upon the 1st 2 years we all took. MEs aren't that much brighter, but at least they're having fun.
Robots, cars, construction equipment > bridges, warehouses, sewers

Anonymous Thu Jun 28 23:02:55 2018 No.9837446

>>9836649
I do. The FE exam was the absolute easiest exam I ever took in school. Everybody I talked to about it though said it was closer to the hardest. I don't know if they were just playing the "hurr durr every test I take is the hardest" game or if they were just legitimate brainlets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 23:08:54 2018 No.9837450 Mech Eng student here. Is it possible to figure out the speed a drill is spinning based on the frequency of its sound? I thought it would have to do with the sound of internal gears meshing but I can't wrap my head around it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 23:38:37 2018 No.9837472 File: 102 KB, 1078x775, 1235489431.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9835531 >American talking about GPA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 23:39:44 2018 No.9837474 >>9837450 No retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 23:42:11 2018 No.9837477 >>9836401 >machine learning competition >tfw can't use the internet to even learn cursory ml >go to recommended graphs from excel and just choose something instead Where. Is American education going

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 28 23:48:28 2018 No.9837491 >>9837472 ???

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 01:01:36 2018 No.9837570 >>9837210 I'm the other materials science bro here, but undergrad actually. Grad or undergrad though they won't reply to you. The market quality is fine, but it is a small one so it's competitive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 03:34:30 2018 No.9837728 File: 577 KB, 480x476, 1529657721539.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Which is less pitiful: working as a technician or working as an intern after you've already graduated?

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 03:43:31 2018 No.9837743

>>9830135
>>9830137
Bro we all fell for the grad-school meme. The problem is you'll see how few post-docs and research positions there are.

It doesn't matter how good your h-index is when you graduate. There simply are no jobs for researchers or academics.

You'll be worse off than you were at undergrad when you finish.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 03:49:01 2018 No.9837749 File: 10 KB, 250x221, images (3).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9826017 Best case scenario i'll graduate in 2021. And i started in college in 2014

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 04:31:10 2018 No.9837795 >>9837477 Each team had to give a presentation to the team from the company. I was quite concerned by how much interest they were showing in the colorful correlation tables.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 04:58:30 2018 No.9837825 >>9837749 tell the story, cunt.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 05:00:57 2018 No.9837827

>>9837728
which pays more? the internship is obviously temporary, but if you work as a technician you should continue looking for a better job.

working as technician after graduating might look poorly on your resume though. it makes it look like you were unhireable as an engineer.

>>9837743
>You'll be worse off than you were at undergrad when you finish.
i wish someone told me this earlier. 5 years pissed away for nothing but an meaningless title and worthless degree.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 05:03:11 2018 No.9837828

>>9830135
>>9830137
Almost no one gets this. I don't know what combination of special snowflake amerimongrel heritage on top of masterful dick sucking you pulled off to get paid that much, unless you are lying of course, but that's by no means the norm. The norm is that you get paid ~30k for the duration of your PhD.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 05:11:53 2018 No.9837840

>>9837728
>working as an intern after you've already graduated?
Well most companies are forcing new grads to do this these days.

I refuse because they mostly fuck people over. Forcing them to work for up to 2 years and then ignoring their promises of full time employment regardless of performance. Literally they would rather let an entire department fall apart than hire a new engineer. Just hire a new intern to carry the projects.

>>9837827
Well, we are all unhireable. There aren't any good jobs left anymore. Companies that hire engineers are spoiled with the oversaturated market, then they lobbey for training more engineers when their 10k salary job stops getting applications.

I can make far more money in software, so why I should I bother slaving away for them?

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 05:19:56 2018 No.9837857

I just finished my first year in electrical and electronic engineering (in europe) and I have the feeling I know nothing.

I plan to study during summer, should I study new subjects I won't have at school, reinforce what I already know by looking back and get deeper into it or begin to learn next year courses so I get some headstart?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 05:33:13 2018 No.9837874 >>9837360 > > bridges If you don't think bridges are the tightest shit on this planet, kill yourself. t. bridge engineer

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 05:34:46 2018 No.9837876

>>9837857
You literally go to school to prove you can learn. Employers more or less don't care what classes you have taken or how well you did. All that matters is that you don't come off as a dumb ass in the interview and then they teach you how to do what they want.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 05:40:18 2018 No.9837884 >>9837360 Not a CE but ive heard from a friend that structural theory is mental

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 05:42:16 2018 No.9837887 File: 12 KB, 500x400, 1529602681289.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9828247 This is a weird attempt at bragging anon. what ARE you going to work on that will save the world more quickly than missiles?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 05:51:29 2018 No.9837899 do you think browsing 4chan can cause you to fail to get a top secret security clearance

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 06:11:20 2018 No.9837921 >>9837899 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 06:22:12 2018 No.9837928 >>9837921 Why?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 08:17:00 2018 No.9838027 >>9837258 In one semester? Where I am we do 4 at a time

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 08:46:54 2018 No.9838060 >>9837887 Spreading God's word

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 09:29:34 2018 No.9838113 >>9835353 fucking lmao @ this picture. This is actually how I imagine most of /sci/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 09:42:35 2018 No.9838122 >>9835019 Being at average for 5 years is pretty tough

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 10:14:11 2018 No.9838162 >>9837450 you can make a good estimate. Fundamentals of Noise and Vibration Analysis by Norton

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 10:17:37 2018 No.9838168

>>9837899
no. i had(have) a TS/SCI clearance w/ lifestyle polygraph and the things they care about the most are if you are bad with money or you are a thief. they don't care what you jack off to and they didn't even care i was a big stoner in high school.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 10:27:50 2018 No.9838178
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>>9832067
>Thinking your grades in random math courses tell you anything about your talent

I got an A in calculus I, but then obliterated in Calculus II because the professor turned out to be have the sandiest cunt on our entire campus. It was not possible to succeed in this course without the solutions manual because you were test primarily on the algebra, not the calculus, which made the lecture a huge ass waste of your time too because she would never go over it.

In short: Having a really shitty professor or a really kind one isn't a determinant for how good you are, just study instead of playing video games or whatever it is people do for hobbies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 10:43:54 2018 No.9838196 I wish I did ME over CompE, it seems like it's wildly more interesting, especially since I'm gonna be codemonkeying out of school anyways.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 10:47:09 2018 No.9838198 >>9826545 working in the bumfuck middle of nowhere for pretty good pay if you can even manage to land a job.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 11:03:26 2018 No.9838222 >>9828247 kek I actively apply to these companies

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 11:05:31 2018 No.9838224 >>9838196 can't switch?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 11:49:48 2018 No.9838281 >>9838224 I can, but I'd be two years behind. I'd rather just learn statics, dynamics and fluids on my own time.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 12:46:40 2018 No.9838392

>>9837749
Similar case for me.

>Join sport before between gr10 and 11
>Also transfered to new hs for class availability purposes
>Join school sport team
>Get good, transfer to school with better sport resources
>Sport goes great decide to stay with the team since my classmates are doing extra year as well
>(So far, extra year hs)
>Go to uni and want to do biology perhaps, take gen science curriculum
>Register for physics for second year, it's good - date engineer/grad student
>I should do eng
>Transfer to eng after second year uni
>Due to poor administration even tho I have many credits already, I don't save a year or two
>In 2nd year eng, transfered that fall
>currently just finishing 3rd year second semester
>Will graduate summer 2019
>Finished gr12 in 2012

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 12:53:44 2018 No.9838405 >>9837258 >only 6 baby tier

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 13:41:45 2018 No.9838492 >>9838196 no, you don't. your job prospects would be far worse in ME and you wouldn't use the vast majority of the shit you'd learn on the job anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 13:54:45 2018 No.9838510 >>9836117 You realize that capitalism is rigged and take the marxpill

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 14:04:57 2018 No.9838528 >>9838510 yeah because nepotism and pandering to special classes won't exist under communism, you retarded, brain rotted commie fuck.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 14:07:53 2018 No.9838531
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>>9838510
This. I don't get how engineers are so overwhelmingly conservative when they're legitimately one of the most exploited professions out there.
>hey Mr. Shekelberg, can I get a raise? I just found a way to save the company $10 million a year
>lmao no, if I paid you more than $50k a year I wouldn't be able to afford another lambo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 14:14:00 2018 No.9838541 >>9838528 You don't think it's a bit strange that there are a ton of societally useful and worthwhile things to engineer that just aren't being done because it isn't profitable?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 14:35:48 2018 No.9838564 >>9838027 Yeah. It depends on how many hours each of your classes have, though. Mine's a bachelor of technology degree, brainlet level. >>9838405 7, actually. But I agree.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 14:54:04 2018 No.9838593 >>9838541 Do you mean having to do engineering with a gun pointed at your head?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 14:56:42 2018 No.9838601 >>9829367 120-140 IQs just need the right 140-160 IQ teachers to achieve excellence.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 14:57:45 2018 No.9838603 >>9826592 wtf i love pipes signing up for college rn

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:11:16 2018 No.9838628 >>9837743 I'm already talking to Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin for a research position. I'm trying to be a CTO eventually so after I show I'm skilled as an engineer I'm planning to move more into management.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:13:37 2018 No.9838632

>>9837828
Oh yeah nope I'm making 3x what everyone in my research lab is. Was precisely that. Did 3 years of UG research for a full professor who's getting promoted to distinguished next year. He's got an appointment that comes with 5 half time grad assistant positions in addition to research funding and he gave me one. Then being 1/16 Native American covered the rest, the college gave me a fellowship equivalent to a half time position, plus that sweet scholarship money.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:20:23 2018 No.9838649 >>9838624 lmao

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:23:21 2018 No.9838655

>>9838628
i've been applying to the local northrop grumman branch and every application i submit either gets stealth rejected (no email sent, but status changed to rejected in their careers website) or gets no response at all. how the fuck do you even get them to respond?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:24:33 2018 No.9838661 >>9838632 Your professor is an utter idiot if you have a fellowship and he's paying you on top of that. Unless, he doesn't know about the fellowship.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:29:43 2018 No.9838666 >>9837899 That's a No can confirm

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:30:48 2018 No.9838669

Any civil engineer in here? I need to calculate the annual energy consumption with and without double glazed windows in my faculty's building to see if swapping the old windows for new double-glazed windows is economically viable. Any ideas on how to do this? I'm thinking on running a simulation but I need advice on what software to use. Preferably something user-friendly because civil isn't even my major (I'm electrical). Thanks in advance!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:35:01 2018 No.9838682 >>9838669 ASHRAE has tabulated values for this.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:41:55 2018 No.9838697

>>9838655
I have a very particular set of skills with regards to computational modeling that make me very valuable. I'm working on a new computational method with my professor to analyze complex materials under non traditional situations (i.e. Holistic simulation of composites at hypersonic speeds or a human brain response to a blast wave). The university I'm at has a showcase with NG every year where they pick top CS/Engineering students. Regular salary offers from there range from 200-240, highest last year was 330 for a God tier CS student working on machine learning and cyber security.
>>9838661
Nope he's just got the money to pay me, he helped me get the fellowship.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:44:40 2018 No.9838702 have any of you lads taken 21 units in junior year, gotten straight As, and still had enough time to work on projects?

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 15:58:28 2018 No.9838722

>>9838682
Neat. Do you think it's feasible to construct a neural network out of these datasets? Then plug in the values from my faculty's building with/without the double glazing so the neural network gives me the expected annual energy consuption for each case.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 16:04:03 2018 No.9838735 >>9838702 I'm >>9838697 and no I doubt that's feasible. I averaged 20 credits with 3 being UG research credits/semester. I also only ended up with a 3.1. Good enough in my case but not straight A's.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 16:04:25 2018 No.9838736 >>9838697 yeah, i fucked up and did experiments. now even a ~100k offer is outside of my range despite having a phd.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 16:10:32 2018 No.9838748 >>9838736 That's rough. I'm trying to fit in an experiment to validate my hypersonic model, we'll see. I still have three years left of my planned 4 year term.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 16:13:27 2018 No.9838758 >>9838722 why don't you just get the $500,000 in funding to make a blockchain

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 16:18:36 2018 No.9838764 File: 21 KB, 570x570, 1460060402932.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9838697 >I'm working on a new computational method Please elaborate.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 16:58:25 2018 No.9838818

>>9838764
I'm going to be super vague, I hope you understand. There was some stuff done in the 1970s that they dropped because it was read/write intensive and applying boundary conditions required large matrices. Back in those days there wasn't enough RAM so it was put on tape. Now there's plenty of RAM and this method allows us to proscribe constitutive laws for non engineering material better than finite elements. Also this method doesn't struggle to deal with applying pressure waves to a geometry, or dealing with FSI.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 17:02:48 2018 No.9838825

>>9838764
He's a first year PhD student. What it means is that he doesn't know what he's doing or talking about, and when he realizes he's way in over his head then he's just going to drop out. It doesn't help that he's obviously greedy and somehow claims to be talking to employers when he's still at least 4 years away from graduating.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 17:09:40 2018 No.9838835

>>9838825
I'm a second year now to be fair, and I've had three years of experience in the same lab. I know exactly what I know and how much I don't know. I'm a fucking idiot sometimes, but I'm quite good at what I do. Yes I have talked to a chief engineer at Northrop and he said he's interested in talking more to me about a graduate internship for next summer. I have a similar offer from Ford doesnt particularly matter if you believe me or not. I wouldn't say I'm greedy because I work 50+ hour weeks when I'm only paid for 40.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 17:16:57 2018 No.9838850 What is the deal with comparing Electrical Engineering with black magic? Is it really that complex or is it just another "thermodynamics are hard" meme?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 17:39:26 2018 No.9838900 >>9838850 Who says that? Lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 17:40:45 2018 No.9838904 >>9838818 Sounds like spectral methods, which aren't all that special.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 17:42:56 2018 No.9838909 >>9838900 I heard some dumb CE/MEtards talking about EE as if it was some sort of obscure art.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 17:50:55 2018 No.9838922

>>9838835
Dicking around for a couple hours a week with the graduate students means very little, and
>interning while a PhD student
Quite an arrangement when your adviser doesn't seem to mind you taking off for three months to do your own thing.

I don't really care where you end up one way or another, but I see your bragging about your "60K+" PhD salary and 1/128th amerimongrel special fellowship every single day on /sci/. I certainly didn't have that much free time when I was a PhD student, and I wasn't the best or most committed of them by any stretch. I did know people exactly like you that tried to milk the system for everything they could and always overinflated their skills and abilities while brown nosing the right people. That may work, but up to a point. There comes a time where you have to put up or shut up, and it's not without reason why PhD programs have high attrition rates.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 18:02:45 2018 No.9838952

>>9838904
Not spectral methods. Closest thing would be an application of least squares and no it's not special at all but it's going to help a couple companies do their work and they're paying for it and new computers for us so it's alright with me.

>>9838922
That's literally the second time I've mentioned it anywhere except to my roommate or family, but I appreciate the thought. Also do you think a 46 year old distinguished professor would be stupid enough to pay a student 2-3x a normal student rate for no reason?

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 18:14:37 2018 No.9838988

>>9838952
My adviser was one of the deans of the engineering college and he kept taking on an amerimongrel undergraduate student that I, and all the other laboratory members, have told him multiple times that she is completely incompetent. I'm sure my adviser would take her on as a PhD student if she asked. She was also part of AIAA and I had a chance to talk with some of the other members before I left the university. They all told me she was completely incompetent in all her functions in the club, too. Although that's the exact opposite of how she described herself. She'd give you the impression that she's the most skilled person you'd meet at the university. She also interned at Virgin Galactic and also milked the system any way she could for funds. She claimed to be jewish, native, and hispanic. All that was missing was black. You remind me of her perfectly.

With that said, there is no point to further discussing this. Do your own thing, no skin of my back. Your writing style and content is noticeable enough that I can just ignore it.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 18:25:46 2018 No.9839008

>>9838988
I'm not in any faggy organizations because I don't have time nor the desire. Two of my advisors already told me I'd have a PhD if I had done the MD/PhD program because they have less strict requirements for PhD projects but they also told me not to do one because it'd be a waste of my time. Doesn't really matter either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 19:32:21 2018 No.9839077 Please give a very brief list of pros and cons to going for a job in the industry as an enganerd vs going into academia

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 20:50:13 2018 No.9839179 >>9837749 Engineering isn't for you >B-b-but all these things happened that are out of my control No, it's your fault.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 20:57:19 2018 No.9839188 >>9839077 >tard king thinks anyone is obligated to convince him to go into the industry by all means stay in academia.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 20:58:40 2018 No.9839191 >>9838850 >thermodynamics are hard thermodynamics is not a plural word, brainlet

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 21:04:57 2018 No.9839206 >>9838531 If they didn't wholeheartedly buy into the power structures that enslave them, their existence would be intolerable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 21:24:45 2018 No.9839237 >>9838510 Based >>9838593 Cringe

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 21:55:35 2018 No.9839297 >>9839188 >Ask for someone's opinion >PSSHT, KID WHO THE HELL ARE YOU Alright, this is definitely engineering general. That was pretty autistic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 21:57:46 2018 No.9839302 >>9839297 I bet you that if you just posted a really retarded opinion he'd be more than happy to tell you what you were actually wanting to hear.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 22:15:44 2018 No.9839331 File: 106 KB, 550x359, drone.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] IN FORM ME PLZ ! https://starbase.jpl.nasa.gov/

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 22:48:23 2018 No.9839378
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>>9833436
>Some picked it for the love, and spend 6 months at a time doing unrelated unfunded half-thought-out projects that sucks all their personal time out of them, and quickly lose the passion for it.
Aaaaaahhhhhhh fuggg

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:05:20 2018 No.9839406 >>9826890 Have you played Shenzhen I/O? It's like that.

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:20:19 2018 No.9839417

>>9826890
What happens is people are told its an "easy way to get a job and make a boat load of money." Then they start taking classes and find its not easy, its rather tedious. Then they find out the field of engineering they went into is over saturated so it doesn't make a lot of money at the start or its hard to find a job. And if they didn't like what they were doing in the first place, they are going to hate it more.

Once I started working, I started enjoying doing what I do. College more or less exists to weed you out of whatever it is you are trying to do.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:10:25 2018 No.9839459

>>9839417
the problem is reverse for me. i enjoyed the coursework, especially the earlier/intermediate "weeder" courses that didn't hide all the math/physics behind correlations and empirical equations.

then i graduated and couldn't find a job for shit. it's not just that i couldn't find a job, but i couldn't get so much as a response unless it was for these shit tier contract positions that pay 40k (i live in a high cost of living area) and all you would do is draft. it only got worse since then so i won't even bother expounding. at this point i'm just hoping to pull off a complete career change because i'm tired of wadding through shit creek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 04:59:08 2018 No.9839856 >>9839459 Your unwillingness to move is your downfall.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 07:26:01 2018 No.9840010 >>9839459 Just go for your Master's, dude. I had the exact same issue, but then got two good offers within six months of starting my Master's.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 08:01:23 2018 No.9840030 >>9838593 >"I am going to do [thing]." >"Wtf you mean I HAVE to do [thing]?" >"I do not want to do [thing]." Child

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:39:11 2018 No.9840318 >>9839459 >not moving anywhere in the world

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:55:01 2018 No.9840446 >>9833622 >doing all that work for no jobs

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:01:56 2018 No.9840453

>>9840318
This is a huge problem fresh grads have. You want to be a an engineer? You better be ready to live that life, boy. That means having your passport and being willing to pick up and move. Everyone wants to stay home next to mommy and daddy. A disturbing amount of guys I've met stick around their home town for their gf, but I know that doesn't apply to any of you shitters.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:02:06 2018 No.9840455

>>9839856
>>9840318
after undergrad i was honestly applying plenty in places i thought would have very little competition, e.g. north dakota, alaska, various companies in the middle of no where in the midwest. at this point i'm too tied down where i am (chicago.) i own three properties (selling one) and have family here.

it's not like there's no jobs here. i can apply all i want but no one responds.

>>9840010
i have a phd now. this was part of the things getting worse and me not wanting to expound. at least after undergrad i would get calls for these shit tier positions. now i get absolutely nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:04:58 2018 No.9840458 >>9840455 >i have a phd now >now i get absolutely nothing nobody can fucking afford you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:05:55 2018 No.9840460 >>9840458 What will it take for you to accept that the job market is dead, boomer?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:06:59 2018 No.9840462

>>9826890
It's hyped as some great job where you will learn many things and get to create stuff and do interesting shit and get paid a lot.

Then it turns out all your degree was good for is making illustrations for some marketing fluff in a company that has made iterations of the same thing for decades, dealing with assloads of tedious documentation and making peanuts because everybody rushed into engineering like you did so the market is oversaturated.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:11:36 2018 No.9840473

>>9826984
Many lazy faggots make the same mistake. I don't think I spent as much as a day actually studying in HS because everything was so obvious. Then suddenly I see calculus and I can't just look at the equation and derive a solution right then and there. Started actually putting in some work after getting shitty marks for 2 semesters and my grades went back up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:18:04 2018 No.9840482 >>9840460 when i stop getting job offers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:26:43 2018 No.9840491 How do I get employers to stop illegally discriminating based on disability? It's not something I can easily conceal either, because I have to wear sunglasses all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:28:55 2018 No.9840496 >>9840491 you can't

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:29:25 2018 No.9840497 >>9830219 ...for monkey jobs with shit pay and no prospects. And those are rapidly being outsourced to india in most places. I don't think my career will ever have anything to do with my actual degree.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:35:20 2018 No.9840506 >>9840497 Is Project Engineer at a construction company in Bronx for 69k shit pay and prospects?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:39:18 2018 No.9840513 >>9835849 >Chileans are racists as fuck and hate their own heritage, meaning they love gringos and "the white men" Holy shit sounds like a nice place. I could LARP as a conquistador in the bedroom. Why are so many spics like this, anyway?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:41:08 2018 No.9840515
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>>9835960
The fact that I'm not the only mechie considering going into machine learning has me worried. Why am I always behind the curve? Just when I feel like I've figured out where to go the field is already oversaturated.

Fuck my life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:42:09 2018 No.9840518 >>9836118 No it isn't. Depending where you go it can be utter trash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:44:53 2018 No.9840520 >>9840515 iktfb

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:45:42 2018 No.9840522

>>9837450
If you determine what makes up the sound, yes. Just figure out what part of the mechanism accounts for the strongest frequency peak in a fourier plot. If you have, say, a hand drill that has a loud motor just use that and a known gearing ratio.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:45:47 2018 No.9840523 >>9840506 >NYC >69k Is it not?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:47:37 2018 No.9840525 >>9840453 >that doesn't apply to any of you shitters It applies to me, and she's studying medicine. Am I screwed?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:50:47 2018 No.9840528

>>9838531
Well under communism you just get sent to the gulag if you complain, or the party cadre you pissed off gives you some trash assignment. I come from a family of STEM people from the USSR and they were pushed around by the party chads who acted just like the business chads, except everybody was much poorer then. The life of engineers is shit because engineers are overwhelmingly beta males, regardless of the political system.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:52:28 2018 No.9840532 >>9838541 That isn't going to be any different under commuism. The collective of brainlets won't understand your vision any more than the stockholders. And even if they did, you just won't have the resources because central planning is trash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:06:48 2018 No.9840555 File: 12 KB, 480x358, 1529530637995.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9840496 S-should I just sue?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:14:39 2018 No.9840578 >>9840555 you can't even think of it until you actually get the job and then they fire you. Until then they can refuse to hire you for whatever reason they choose, you can't prove it's because of a disability and not literally anything else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:18:19 2018 No.9840589 >>9840578 I've had them straight up ask probing health questions during interviews.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:23:08 2018 No.9840594 >>9840589 ah yeah that's illegal record them and sue them you could make a job of that actually

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:33:27 2018 No.9840612 What classes do you have to take before you're ready to learn about designing CPUs and graphics cards? digital logic, circuits 1 and 2...anything else?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:53:34 2018 No.9840716 What's an acceptable GPA to brag about and put on your resume

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:17:07 2018 No.9840747 >>9840716 anything above 3.0

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:20:22 2018 No.9840754 What is the view on switching fields from undergrad to grad? I was in biomed in undergrad and am now doing EE for grad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:33:43 2018 No.9840783 >>9840754 I went from ME to EE. I got an electronics minor with my BSME though which required me to take three analog circuits classes, signals and systems, and digital circuits.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:39:26 2018 No.9840789

>>9840783
Yeah, I've been avoiding the circuit-related courses because I'm interested in image processing for neuroscience research. I've almost fulfilled the EE course credits requirements for the degree, so now I'm branching out into other departments with niche courses related to that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:46:34 2018 No.9840799 >>9840747 3.1?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:58:10 2018 No.9840818

>>9839179
Not him but some shit does happen out of your control. I had to pay for my dad's heart surgery which kinda forced me to take three semesters off.
His case is simple. He's a brainlet.
>>9840318
I don't understand this either. I'm ready to move literally anywhere if it means getting out of the hell-hole that is Conroe, Texas.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:06:11 2018 No.9840836 >>9840818 Well yeah when you live in the place that everyone else is trying not to go to then you don't have much of an issue with moving

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:22:08 2018 No.9840874 >>9840836 This is, or at least was, the "fastest growing" city in the nation.

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