/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9816685]

Is this a good CS curriculum?


I think it’s what I want to major in and it’s at a decent state school (MTU) but I don’t want to JUST myself and end up unemployable.

The school advertises 98% job placement though so I’m probably being too dramatic

[Anonymous No.9816756]

>>>/g/

[Anonymous No.9816774]

>Ethical & Social Aspects of Comp.

[Anonymous No.9816883]

>>9816685
>2 code monkey classes not counting data structures instead of 1
>no multivariable calculus
>taking CS discrete structures instead of MATH intro to proofs
>taking pleb tier statistics instead of probability theory
>no OS design
>no compilers
>no advanced algorithms
>no optimization
>no networking
>dedicated classes on social justice
>no capstone/thesis
>no economic or business courses
>no numerical analysis
>algorithms delayed to 4th year
>programming languages delayed to 4th year
>comp org delayed to 3rd year

Flaming shit.

[Anonymous No.9816947]

>>9816685
I mean it's as good as you can get in most mutt unis.
If you are interested in the theory jut do a maths degree, if you are interested in being a programmer, just do software engineering in a cheap place and create a portfolio and work part-time besides the light course load
otherwise, come home to europe white man

[Anonymous No.9817113]

>>9816685
You posted this same trash in /g/. No, it's a garbage curriculum.

[Anonymous No.9818672]

>>9816883
Then suggest a good course/plan

[Anonymous No.9818712]

>>9818672
inb4 that 30-year-old boomer who puts biology in a CS curriculum

[Anonymous No.9818867]

>>9816947
>If you are interested in the theory jut do a maths degree,
This is really important, OP. After getting an undergraduate degree in maths all material up to and including graduate level cs is up for grabs. Also I can't stress enough how true the meme of cs students being retarded is, so keep that in mind as well.

[Anonymous No.9818871]

>>9818672

>>9818712
Sorry, I just had to ride my BMX over here, whilst chugging my Monster Energy™.
Also, get fucked, even 2000s culture is better than 2010s, you Gen Z pieces of shit are going to grow up as the most culturally and intellectually vapid generation in human history.
How does that make you feel?

[Anonymous No.9819015]

>>9816685

The biggest joke of CS is how far behind you are from day 1. There are kids who started programming at age 10 and are already designing their own physics engines and they are going to beat the shit out of you in the interviews after college.

There is no other field where you are so far behind on day 1. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.9819944]

>>9818871
I'm all for rigor in CS, but this course of study is more than likely not possible. Ignoring the constant studying with no time to rest, this would be a scheduling nightmare. Honestly, if we want to cover most or all of this, then there should be a widespread adoption to make an optional 5 year CS degree. You could have the "I kinda just wanna write code, make games, and get into the industry" 4 year degree or the "I respect this subject and want to be an academic" 5 year degree.

[Anonymous No.9819950]

>>9818871
>20 credits a semester
lmao

[Anonymous No.9819961]

>>9819944
>>9819950
I'd just say this is what must be done to get a good grounding, ready for real study into STEM.
If you couldn't hope with this, then you aren't dedicated enough to really have a full understanding to a polymathic detail.
Now, I'm not saying that you're any lesser for not adhering to this standard, but if you truly had a bordering on the autistic obsession with STEM knowledge, you would dedicate yourselves.
I mean, if you aren't doing anything throughout your day and you should already have a few passive streams of income (investment), then you should be dedicating around 8-10 hours a day to study.
Just a thought.

[Anonymous No.9819968]

>>9819961
this is cringe

[Anonymous No.9819985]

>>9819961
>studying as much as people work
thats absurd and unhealthy. a good portion of your day, especially as a young man, should be physical activity and diet. 12 credits is totally appropriate and should remain the standard. if you have nothing to do and are independently wealthy, 4 years or 5 years makes no difference anyways.

[Anonymous No.9819988]

>>9819968
Lol, you clearly aren't ready for the polymath pill.
Go home, cerebral child.

>>9819985
Why is it? Make your work your study, I mean, if you already have a passive source of income (and should).

[Anonymous No.9819994]

>>9819988
you undervalue the importance of rest and relaxation. are you even sleeping 10 hours a day?

[Anonymous No.9819998]

>>9819994
>are you even sleeping 10 hours a day?
Umm, no. I thought it was 7?

[Anonymous No.9820002]

>>9819988
>Why is it?
working hard is bad for you and bad for the mind. it really should be limited.

[Anonymous No.9820006]

>>9820002
So, you're saying I shouldn't be cramming?
Do you have some studies to back that assertion up?

[Anonymous No.9820007]

>>9819998
if you aren't leading a sedentary lifestyle, which you shouldn't be, lots of sleep is good for you.

[Anonymous No.9820012]

>>9820007
I do plenty of cardio and calisthenics as both flexibility and strength training.
30/30 in the morning.
30 cardio before lunch.
15 cardio before dinner.

[Anonymous No.9820017]

>>9816685
>year 4
>introduction to Algorithms

That's why even south american computer scientists are better than you americans. That curriculum is a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.9820018]

>>9819961
I'm already taking graduate classes and an extra year you dork. I have most of what's on your stupid list, aside from some chemistry that I ought to self study and the software engineering class.

[Anonymous No.9820021]

>>9820006
>Do you have some studies to back that assertion up?
shouldn't the fact that 12 credits (3 classes) is considered a standard full course load be enough?

>>9820012
are you an old man doing his daily maintenance so he doesn't fall apart? if you are under 25 this is barely passable.

[Anonymous No.9820026]

>>9820018
>/sci/ poster calling another /sci/ poster a dork
Lol, sure thing, "chad".

[Anonymous No.9820029]

>>9820021
>shouldn't the fact that 12 credits (3 classes) is considered a standard full course load be enough?
No, because you should be maximizing your time.
Unless Aubrey pulls through, you have a limited time span in which to learn as much as possible.
That shouldn't be spent watching your eyelids.

>if you are under 25 this is barely passable.
I'm 23, how isn't that enough?

[Anonymous No.9820033]

>>9820026
I'm definitely a dork, but I'm not one who posts a meme list and acts as if it's a trivial task to get through all of it. It's a very rewarding course of study, but alongside research, friends, family, free time, and internship hunting, it's not easy. Life, even as a scientist or mathematician, shouldn't be lived locked in a room reading books all day, every day.

[Anonymous No.9820034]

>>9818871
>matrix algebra
it's called linear algebra, bucko.

[Anonymous No.9820037]

>>9820029
>you have a limited time span

you want to spend that time thinking about what professors want you to think about or what you want to think about?

[Anonymous No.9820046]

>>9820033
But that's what I do, why aren't I crippling depressed?

>>9820034
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.9820049]

>>9820029
You're looking at booking classes from multiple departments and possibly different schools. Even assuming that these courses are cross listed in other departments, taking 5-6 courses in a semester means you're going to get schedule conflicts since you're bound to find that two departments schedule their classes in the same time blocks. This problem becomes way worse as you work your way through the curriculum, as there are fewer professors who teach sections of the higher level courses (naturally, they're specialized and not nearly as many people take a special topics course as they do an intro course). Anyone who puts more than 5 minutes of thought into this can see that it's a bad plan that sets one up for failure.

[Anonymous No.9820053]

>>9820046
I'm not saying that you're cripplingly depressed. I know you're baiting, but it's honestly not a life to live. Erdos, a man who literally devoted every waking moment of his life to mathematics, used it as a social activity to bond with other mathematicians and children. Even the man most famously, autistically devoted to mathematics had a social life, so much so that there are numbers devoted to the impact he has had on the mathematics community.

[Anonymous No.9820062]

>>9819988
i do "real study" in math and cs, and i didn't take that path to get here. additionally, everything you post reads like it was written by someone completely unfamiliar with what "real study" is.

[Anonymous No.9820065]

>>9820049
>He hasn't unlocked the perk: [MASTER OF SCHEDULING]
Anon...

>>9820053
Maybe I should try networking more, then. Kinda hard since my only friend got himself put in prison.

>>9820062
Nice try, but until you take the polymath pill. You wont understand.

[Anonymous No.9820071]

>>9820065
>take the pill
as a real contrarian, i'm getting real sick of this pseudo-contrarianism

[Anonymous No.9820072]

>>9820046
>Wrong.
you can stop larping now

[Anonymous No.9820073]

>>9820071
>as a real contrarian
Lol, edgy.

[Anonymous No.9820075]

>>9820072
Jealousy breeds contempt.

[Anonymous No.9820078]

>>9820075
what are you, exactly, that I should be jealous of? a troll?

[Anonymous No.9820081]

>>9820078
A real polymath. I have an insatiable lust for knowledge.

[Anonymous No.9820097]

>>9820081
>A real polymath. I have an insatiable lust for knowledge.
you say you're a polymath, yet you describe a philomath.

which is it? maybe you're just another autist of a thousand open tabs?

[Anonymous No.9820103]

>>9820097
You can be both.

[Anonymous No.9820109]

>>9820103
>You can be both.
thank you.

are you?

[Anonymous No.9820114]

>>9820109
Of course, I said so.

[Anonymous No.9820115]

>>9819950
>he only take the minimum 12
Enjoy throwing your money away.

[Anonymous No.9820118]

>>9820034
No, the first course is matrix algebra. "Linear Algebra" should be reserved for the second course on the abstract theory of finite vector spaces over a field.

[Anonymous No.9820147]

>>9819950
That's 18 and it's standard for engineers.

[Anonymous No.9820212]

>>9820118
Why not just start with that?
You don't really have people starting uni who don't know how to do matrix multiplication, do you?

[Anonymous No.9820225]

>another CS thread devolves into autism and dick waving
What a surprise

[Anonymous No.9820250]

>>9820212
>You don't really have people starting uni who don't know how to do matrix multiplication, do you?

Don't underestimate how terrible public schools are.