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>be math major at a big yuropoor university
>walk into first complex analysis lecture
>it's a required course here in 3rd semester
>most people are in 3rd semester, a few in 2nd
>Prof asks if there's any murican PhD students in the lecture
>here we go, 4 people raise their hands
>everyone starts giggling

>2 weeks later
>Prof gets off topic a bit and relates current topic to something in measure theory
>Murifat PhD student raises hand
> "What's a measure?"
>Entire room errupts into laughter
>Even prof can't hold it in

>End of the semester
>Murican talking to me
>"I spent 150k and 4 years on a math education to be on the level of a 3rd semester yuropoor...and he got it for free"
>"I know, I'm sorry"

Murican math majors of /sci/...how does it feel to have wasted so much time and money for an inferior education?

>> No.9811304

>>9811277
I'm an American math major. I learned complex analysis in middle school and measure theory early into high school. For my first year of college, I took classes covering topics such as simplicial homotopy, spectral sequences, classifying spaces, cobordism, the scanning map, streaming algorithms, computational geometry, computational complexity, fine-grained complexity, zero knowledge, Lausanne-school economics. I'm only paying the equivalent of rent and board. How does it feel to have gone to school in the US? Pretty nice, actually.

>> No.9811517

>>9811277
>be math major at a big yuropoor university
stopped reading there

>> No.9811529

>>9811304
nice larp

>> No.9811648

Why would PhD student attend lecture for undergrads?

>> No.9811860

>>9811529
both him and OP are larps

>> No.9812870

>>9811277
> mathematics
There's your problem.

Programming is one of the most difficult branches of mathematics; the poorer mathematicians had better remain applied mathematicians. Programming is basically math++, and a Computer Science graduate is considered élite, capable of mastering in 1 year what math graduates do in 2 years. Deal with it!

World's élite universities (e.g. MIT, Princeton) will tell you right away that as their CS student you are considered the best group they have and that math students go slower than you are, and increase your load to crazy levels. As a CS student, you are expected to master (continuous) calculus, discrete calculus (discrete math proofs, hypercubes for parallel algorithms), optimization (machine/deep learning, compilers), category theory (functional programming), logic (up to automated proofs, i.e. including set theory), differential equations, topology (computational geometry, distributed algorithms), probability and statistics (reinforcement learning, queueing), number theory (cryptography), graph theory (almost everywhere)... There is no functional analysis needed yet, but it's heavily used for PhD degrees anyway. You need to know all this down to the level of proving theorems if you want to achieve anything in CS.

>> No.9812901

>>9812870
While I agree that programming is math++, I find this pasta is going stale.

>> No.9813181

>>9811277
>and he got it for free
An American would know better than to drink the kool-aid of retarded eurosocialist trash.
>mfw people fell for the bait
OP is a europoor idiot who most certainly does not possess the mental capacity required to complete a bachelor´s or master´s degree in mathematics at a fourth-rate euroshit university.

>> No.9814616

>>9813181
Hey bitch. It's free.
Just get educated in Europe for free and then move to America for low tax high pay jobs while hardcore born and raised muricunts slave away with 150k dollar debt.

>> No.9814726

>>9814616
Its not free you faggot, Retards like me have to pay Jizya to parasite kunts like you

>> No.9814738

>>9814726
It's free for ME

>> No.9814739

>>9811277
nice larp euro fag
t. top 3 math uni in world

>> No.9814827

>>9814739
>top 3 math uni in world
And you get graded on a curve, atleast 50% of your grade is homework, 20% attendance, 20% midterms and 10% finals. Fucking brainlet system

>> No.9814842

>>9814827
A good math course has no attendance and no tests. That's what most of my upper courses were like and I was only at a state uni.

>> No.9814846

>>9814739
Holy shit you can get your homework done.
Groundbreaking achievement.

>> No.9814864

>>9814726
you have my sympathy, but not my regret.

>> No.9814876

>>9814846
>>9814827
try as you might, you'll never get in and you'll always have a subpar education and prestige associated with your name, as beffiting of genetic garbage

get over it

>> No.9814905

>>9811517
>murican attention span
it's okay buddy, one sentence at a time

>> No.9814913

>>9811277
>>9813181
>>9814739
>tfw European top 10 University
We have Algebraic Geometry as an elective in the third undergrad year, I bet this is considered beyond the scope of a PhD in murica

>> No.9815661

>>9814842
So how do you pass the course?

>> No.9815668
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9815668

amerifat undergrad here, how do i stop this from happening to me?

>> No.9815676

>>9814827
this

>> No.9815683

>>9814827
What are you on about? I'm at a top 20 math school in the US. Our grades are usually 10% - 15% homework and maybe some extended assignments, 10% quizzes, and the rest is assessments.

>> No.9815691

>>9811277
>>9814913
My university here in the US have both intro to complex analysis and algebraic geometry offered for the typical 3rd or 4th year undergrad.
You've got a huge inferiority complex and made up that story out of nowhere, or those "PhDs" are bottom of the barrel retarded. I'm inclined to believe the former.

>> No.9815697

>>9814913
Most people take real analysis within their first two years, then follow up with complex, abstract algebra, algebraic geometry, etc., in the following years.

>> No.9815719

>>9815683
>Our grades are usually 10% - 15% homework and maybe some extended assignments, 10% quizzes, and the rest is assessment
CRINGE

>> No.9815720 [DELETED] 

https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/ewd10xx/EWD1016.PDF

Researchers like Dijkstra still exist. Also
http://www.gigamonkeys.com/knuth-dijkstra/