Perpetual Motion?

[UnknownInquisitor No.9801286]

Ive had this question for a long time now, so this is a last resort. For context, i asked every damn teacher in the school that has anything to do with math, and many other, like a Nam vet, former ford engineer, and so many fucking others. The question is, in space sufficiently far away from any grav. field, if you had a coil and a magnet, if you push the magnet in the coil, you get a electrical current, (duh) so if you had a long enough coil, you would produce more energy than was required to push it. So you could have two motors that push the magnet back and forth always generating more energy than is used. The thing is this breaks law of conservation of energy. So how does this make any sense? Ive thought of Lenz's law, but haven't been able to test, since, ya know, I'm not a fucking Astronaut. (P.S Sorry for the semi click bait title.)

[Anonymous No.9801294]

doesn't the magnet experience a resisting magnetic force?

[UnknownInquisitor No.9801298]

>Lenz's law

[UnknownInquisitor No.9801304]

But I'm not sure if it works when the power is being redirected.

[Anonymous No.9801325]

OP dun goofd and forgot about back EMF

[Anonymous No.9801334]

>>9801286
You have so much to learn about harnessing free energy.

Way better ways, for example, Tesla coils.

[Anonymous No.9801335]

You can do this experiment quite easily for yourself. Drop a bar magnet through a copper tube and through a pvc pipe. It takes way longer for it to fall out the bottom of the copper tube due to the induced currents. Without any gravity to pull it, it'll just stop.

[UnknownInquisitor No.9801343]

ik, but i was not sure it would work if the current was not just sitting there. im brainlet

[UnknownInquisitor No.9801346]

>You have so much to learn about harnessing >free energy.
>Way better ways, for example, Tesla coils.

how the hell do you get free energy from tesla coils?

[Anonymous No.9801347]

>>9801286

nothing is outside of gravitaional fields. you can not protect against gravity. and you have a to simplistic outlook on induction. Induction always generates electromagnetic fields working against the "goal"-current, ultimately stopping the magnet, and you'd have to take into account many additional effects like the skin effect , changes in inner energy ( e.g. temperature). So nope, not working.

[Anonymous No.9801349]

>>9801286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJyWaliROPo

I'm sorry OP it won't happen.

[UnknownInquisitor No.9801351]

thank god i said it was not posible cuz law of coservation, or id look like a faggioli

[Anonymous No.9801360]

>Free
>Energy
Pick one

[Anonymous No.9801363]

>>9801294
>>9801325
>>9801349

This OP. Look up "eddy currents". You can push a magnet to make all the current you want, but with that comes the resistance of the conductor itself.

[Anonymous No.9801366]

>>9801346

>electrons everywhere
>everywhere
>copper ball to attract them from the sky
>metal thing in the ground to make it a current
>copper wire wrapped around the pole a lot
>gets faster and faster
>at end produces electricity

[Anonymous No.9801383]

>>9801360
Youtube, tesla coils free energy

[Anonymous No.9801390]

>>9801360
What will you give me if I can show you the functional one?

[Anonymous No.9801393]

>>9801383
Youtube, friction and heat loss

[Anonymous No.9801402]

>>9801383
>>9801390
I'd suck your cock because I want free energy just like everybody else and it would great if it could really happen but It can't.

I bet you can't explain why this (magnet)windmill doesn't actually work.

[Anonymous No.9801404]

>>9801393
Doesn't mean i'm wrong, I linked you to youtube because you will see it with your own eyes.

So the true loss is you for your ignorance, maybe start studying more so you can understand.

Literally proof infront of your face and you want someone to type it out for you.

[Anonymous No.9801410]

>>9801402
It doesn't work because it will lose its electrical charge and needs new magnets constantly

[Anonymous No.9801412]

Even on a more basic level, aren't the motors pushing the magnet back and forth going to wear out?

Also, magnets do become weaker over time.

[Anonymous No.9801415]

>>9801412
It will lose electrons every second that's why and it needs electrons to do any type of magnetism. tesla coils work in a different way thats why if we implemented them we would save tons of dough

[Anonymous No.9801418]

Like if we have CONSTANTLY APPLIED FORCE.

I'm quiet...

[Anonymous No.9801422]

>>9801404

so i should trust a potentially forged youtube video over the literal dozen of my scientific books i have here? not gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.9801425]

>>9801404
>>9801404
You didn't link anything, you gave a vague search phrase and now your calling it proof.
If it's real and constructible then fucking build it and rid the world of poverty, I'll wait and while poverty is being stricken away with, I'll suck your cock.

[Anonymous No.9801433]

>>9801422
So if someone in front of you resurrected a dead person in front of your face. You would say some shit like oh this is real because of x. This is pessimistic nature at its purest, true intelligence is being able to take the different point of views and keeping an open mind.

If you think its forged, why not try making one yourself?

you don't want to because you'd rather spend time reading useless books and pretend to be a genius.

[Anonymous No.9801437]

>>9801425
It's not a vague search its literally the fucking proof, what else do you need? a whole type of some utter bullshit or a few minutes video explaining everything? I didn't link a video because im busy and you could spend some time looking through different videos to notice patterns

[Anonymous No.9801440]

>>9801433
>true intelligence is being able to take the different point of views and keeping an open mind.
True intelligence is knowing that people way smarter than you have already looked at all the problems over centuries and all come to the same conclusion.
The likelihood is that they are right and you are missing something.

[Anonymous No.9801441]

>>9801334
Teslaposting belongs in >>>/x/

[Anonymous No.9801442]

>>9801437
I guess you don't want your cock sucked you narcissistic fool.

[Anonymous No.9801450]

>>9801440
>>9801441

If you were truly intelligent, you would have respect for people like Nikola Tesla.

you know, the inventor of Tesla coils, how can you sit there and dismiss all his experiments because you think its impossible?

Are you brainwashed so much that you take the programming so easily and won't question anything?

A reason why Tesla coils aren't widespread cause it fucks with the pockets of a few people. People that make billions just off energy. Imagine someone implemented a way to destroy their income in a single day?

You think these motherfuckers have any morals they literally torture people.

I would argue but the argument could easily be finished if you had an open mind and decided to look through the videos. That is the best proof, isn't it? why would some words prove anything when there are literally videos of people implementing it.

This is why aliens think we are retarded as fuck.

[Anonymous No.9801452]

>>9801286
The flux in the coil is related directly to the speed of the magnet moving through the coil. It would not produce more energy then what is driving the magnet. Anyone got a link on how induction works involving superconducting magnets?

[Anonymous No.9801469]

>>9801450

well i for one dismiss only the part of his experiments that we knopw not to work like he thought^^ With most of them, he's at odds with way smarter people as well. I have learned elektrodynamics how they really work and specifically done experiments that could not have worked if Tesla was right^^

Aside from that : videos is not how scientific debates are settled, peer reviewed papers are. so get a paper through peer review in a notable magazine , then we can continue to talk :) Why not videos? Pretty simple : even if they are not forged intentionally, there could be all kinds of influences we could not see in it, errors could have been made that are not visible, they lack all the rigorous maths et cetera. So as a source, videos alone are just insufficient, especially without peer review. And nope, 4chan or youtube comments does not constitute informed peers to review sth.

[Anonymous No.9801470]

>>9801437
You're too busy being a narcissistic retard that's what it really is. I bet you tell all your coworkers about free energy nonsense and you never once have gone to home depot and tried to build the nonsense you spout. You probably never will either which is the saddest shit in the world, you would rather believe that free energy technology is being suppressed and your really "In the know" and "awesome" and "better than other people" or "woke" than actually discover the sad fact that free energy is impossible.

I wish with all my soul that free energy is real, I would be so happy, it would be the best but it's not you FAGGOT. Now prove it and end poverty and I'll suck your cock.

[Anonymous No.9801471]

>>9801452

superconducting magnets or conductors? And note that not all superconductors are the same( there's group 1, aka metals, and group 2, aka the rest) and they behave quite differently.

[Anonymous No.9801501]

>>9801469
>>9801470

>I wish with all my soul that free energy is real

When you do find out you'll be cumming.

The fact is though, even if you say all this nonsense that it isn't real. It actually is, you need to learn a whole new branch of science, not the stuff taught in grade 11 high school.

Vortex mathematics is a good start I normally never debate because I find it pointless. To prove something to someone that you know is real is just a waste of energy.

I'm here debating with you, because I'm bored and this topic is a touchy one. The youtube videos should be more than enough proof.

Do you even know what energy is?
Do you know where it comes from?

Keep on studying meme tier sciences and maybe you'll get those couple bucks you really need. I'm a real scientist because I understand how the universe works.

Saying free energy isn't real is so foolish there's literally energy everywhere.

You pretend to know whats going on when you really don't.

[Anonymous No.9801507]

>>9801410
Wrong, the shit wouldn't even spin once you retard.

[Anonymous No.9801514]

>>9801507
there's over a hundred youtube videos on this topic just youtube "Perpetual Magnetic generator"

[Anonymous No.9801516]

>>9801501

if you really think a video could be scientifically credible proof you understand even less science than i initially thought. And let me guess, the Physicists of the last 100 years were no "real scientists" either? ;) But as i said, write ap aper, get it peer reviewed and then maybe someone will take you seriously xD

[Anonymous No.9801522]

>>9801514

and, spoiler alert, all of those are either fake or wrong^^

[Anonymous No.9801529]

>>9801501
Go shove a rodin coil up your clueless projecting ass.
Energy is ((plank Mass x plank Length^2) / (plank Time^2)) homo

Hey everyone! Look at this guy he's to busy to post a specific link to a video but found the time to understand how the universe works! Must have found a free energy machine and is a greedy bitch who won't share, you suck faggot!

[Anonymous No.9801530]

>>9801516

[Anonymous No.9801534]

>>9801516
>>9801522

This is fucking 4chan, not a fucking science class. How are you trying to make rules for something to be real. You forget its just your opinion and how your opinion has to be changed shows. You think only with left brain and not with both, as someone who uses both sides of their brain to the fullest. You are truly a fucking retard, the youtube videos are more than enough proof.

Its up to you if you want to look into it more, but to totally dismiss one of the greatest scientists shows how fucking retarded you are.

I don't need anyones fucking help at all because most people are just fucking retarded like you. No fucking point in wasting energy writing a paper and all that annoying science shit to end up getting killed because I fucked with some guy pocket.

I already know im arguing with a child and I just wasted my time honestly you are so fucking retarded that I have nothing else to say

[Anonymous No.9801583]

>>9801534
I think you got caught In a perpetual faggot generating vortex.
This happens now and again when a narcissist find videos of other narcissist saying "the quarter was behind your ear the whole time" and you get flustered when someone says "no, it was in the guys hand" because you want to believe the free money machine was right behind your ear the whole time.
Link one fucking video you little unimportant insignificant faggot and I'll lick the tip a few times for you being a good boy.

[Anonymous No.9801627]

>>9801514
Perpetual Magnetic Generators are, totally without exception, scams.
Yeah, there are 100s of YouTube videos. So?
There's also a guy with a channel who builds these things, carefully following the procedures laid out in those videos. None work.
He also notes how the "inventor" never shows you the side of the device where it would make the most sense to hide a battery pack.

A good analogy would be all the financial pundits telling you what stocks to buy so you can make a fortune within a short period.
Why are they peddling this advice?
Why aren't THEY fabulously wealthy?

Any free energy machine would make the inventor rich beyond the dreams of Bill Gates.
(Unless you believe the tin-foil hat theories that all the successful inventors are promptly murdered by the CIA or Exxon.)

You might read
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ernst_Worrell_Keely
Scams are not new.
This one was so successful that it STILL has Believers more than a century later.
Even in the 1800's "perpetual motion" had acquired a dubious reputation. Keely, therefore, claimed his machine tapped "etheric force". Aether has gone out of fashion too, so now the claims often involve tapping "vacuum energy".
Words change. Nothing else does.

[Anonymous No.9801665]

[Anonymous No.9801677]

>>9801665
was madam curie bill murray's mom?

[Anonymous No.9801683]

>>9801677
Yes lol their resemblance is uncanny

[Anonymous No.9801698]

>>9801450
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.9801716]

>>9801501
Not those guys but I'll be glad to make fun of you.

>Vortex mathematics is a good start I normally never debate because I find it pointless.
No shit it's pointless, because you're still dealing with MATH, something the universe doesn't understand. Hell, lets throw some Roger Boscovich, Walter Russel and some Rene Descartes in there since they came far before Marko-transmutation circle drawer-Rodin ever came into the picture. 3-6-9 guys! It's the key to the universe even though I have no idea what that actually means!

>Do you even know what energy is?
A difference in something. That is all energy has ever been and ever will be.

>Do you know where it comes from?
From nothing comes nothing so to say it "came from" is a pointless statement it itself. You tell me where energy "comes from". Throw in the word "wave" and I will fucking destroy you.

>I'm a real scientist because I understand how the universe works.
That is the dumbest statement a scientist could ever make

>Saying free energy isn't real is so foolish there's literally energy everywhere.
Saying it's "free" when it always is there is also stupid. You still have to move the fucking energy idiot.

[Anonymous No.9801789]

>>9801716
>3-6-9 guys! It's the key to the universe even though I have no idea what that actually means!
3 represents the trinity, 2 the duality, and 1 the infinite whole.

We like the number 3:
"3, 2, 1 GO!".
"Three is the magic number".
3 is the first digit of Pi.
The only shape with 3 sides is a triangle, and we know how prevalent triangle symbology is.

3 is the combination of infinite wholeness (1) + infinite duality (2).

3 + 3 = 6
6 + 6 = 12 - If separate 12 into its constituent digits we get 1 + 2 = 3
3 + 3 + 3 = 9
9 + 9 = 18
1 + 8 = 9
9 + 9 + 9 = 27
2 + 7 = 9
9 x 9 = 81
8 + 1 = 9
Etc...

3, 6, 9 are the digits that show true connectedness.
>inb4 schizo

[Anonymous No.9801836]

>>9801789
Here is the value of pi in base 2 rather than base ten.
11.00100 10000 11111 10110 10101 00010 00100 00101 10100 01100 00100 01101 00110 00100 11000 11001 10001 01000 10111 00000
Here is pi in base 3.
10.01021 10122 22010 21100 21111 10221 22222 01112 01212 12120 01211 00100 10122 20222 12012 01211 12101 21011 20022 01202

You have no fucking point faggot.
Your digit sums are a schizophrenic way of naviGAYting the world, looking at licence plate number sums for hidden meaning or fortune telling.
Your bullshit is exactly the same as saying
E=MC^2 because if you convert the letters to there equal order in the English alphabet order.
So E=5, M=13, and C=3
5=13*3^2
5=13*9
5=117
Then reconvert both sides of the equation into alphabet numerology
5=(117/26)
5=4.5
God only deals with natural numbers so after rounding
5=5
and there I just proved that E=MC^2
Faggot

[Anonymous No.9801845]

>>9801366

Something is missing about those electrons though. I guess they need to be bound. Copper? Nah. Noble metals? Yupp! Gaseous noble metals? 100%

[Anonymous No.9801884]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U&t=13s

[Anonymous No.9801928]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C9-MNKWNaI

[Anonymous No.9801944]

You'd need a short engine based draw because the momentum gain from gravity alone is insufficient

[Anonymous No.9801982]

>>9801514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjvulAuktHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_aa02IigVE

Two good videos showing magnetic motors either;
1) Don't work, or
2) Have a hidden power source

Watch THEM so the creators get a little change from YouTube.
Watching the fraudsters who claim their device really works, just enriches con artists.

[Anonymous No.9801984]

I've not seen sci so creatively deconstruct a LARPing faggot in ages. Gj guys.

[Anonymous No.9801996]

>>9801836
Fucking brainlet, 0 isn't a number so you cannot use it as one.

The only true base is 1, infinite wholeness. Base 2 is infinite duality. It's 1 and -1, not 1 and 0. Base 3 joins the wholeness and duality together.

[Anonymous No.9802001]

>>9801836
Fucking brainlet, 0 isn't a number so you cannot use it as one.

The only true base is 1, infinite wholeness. Base 2 is infinite duality. It's 1 + 1, or 1 - 1, not 1 and 0 as binary uses. Base 3 joins the wholeness and duality together.

[Anonymous No.9802003]

>>9801836

That escalated quickly. Are you being more and more unsure about a certain thing?

[Anonymous No.9802019]

>>9801789
>3 represents the trinity, 2 the duality, and 1 the infinite whole

"Through the ministry of the church may God give you pardon and peace, and I absolve you of all your sins in the name of the father...."

You're spouting numbers. The universe doesn't understand "numbers", it understands RATIOS

"Dualities" don't fucking exist. The word "duality" is a substitute for "lol we don't fucking know so lets just say it's two things/works two ways."

>3, 6, 9 are the digits that show true connectedness.

You're not schizo, you're just investing in a psychosis that numbers and math mean anything other than the arbitrary values assign to them. Your entire post may have well been "apples apples apples" and it would be saying the same thing as spouting a shitload of nonsense about the meaning of numbers.

[Anonymous No.9802041]

>>9801996
>>9802001
>>9802003
>zero's not a number
Numbers aren't real faggot they are all representations of quantity (or lack thereof, or angular frequency (i^2=-1)) and the functions of (+, - , *, /) hierarchically structured to maintain continuity, many things you see as special (like base three, two, and one) are irreverent to what is being measured ,or noting the lack thereof a measurable amount, or recording a loss from a previous measurement.
>escalated quickly
you gotta call narcissist faggots. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.9802054]

>>9802001
>>9801996

[Anonymous No.9802073]

Black hole. Just build coil in low orbit and fling metallic stuff through that. Depending how you aim the relative velocities of the stator and rotor should approach C so the result should be gigantic levels of energy.

[Anonymous No.9802080]

>>9802019
>"Dualities" don't fucking exist. The word "duality" is a substitute for "lol we don't fucking know so lets just say it's two things/works two ways."
Of course they fucking do. Hot and cold? Black and white? Left and right? What are they if not dualities of the same thing? The same thing being 1, 1 represents entirety as a singularity, 2 represents entirety as a duality, 3 represents entirety as a mediator between the dualities (hint: consciousness), it connects them. For example, it would be the neutral in positive, negative and neutral, you need that cross over boundary that both separates and joins the dualities.

[Anonymous No.9802125]

>>9802080
To add to this, if 0 could somehow be a number, it would only represent entirety as "nothing", which is impossible, entirety cannot be "nothing", you cannot construct numbers on a foundation of nothing. You must start with the eternal singularity (1), and move on from there. Mathematics inherently disproves the big bang theory because it shows that reality did not come from nothing, because numbers do not come from nothing, they are fundamental and infinite, and therefore can only be used to describe fundamental and infinite "things".

[Anonymous No.9802139]

>>9802080
>Hot and cold?
Hot and cold WHAT
>Black and white?
of WHAT
>Left and right?
of WHAT

>What are they if not dualities of the same thing
Female, Male, both are still human. One thing with only the illusion of duality.

>For example, it would be the neutral in positive, negative and neutral, you need that cross over boundary that both separates and joins the dualities.

First of all, there are no "negatives" anywhere in nature, space or otherwise. There is "Charge and discharge" but all that refers to is a pressure mediation. Second, numbers are numbers. They don't explain anything so can you please clarify what it is you're getting at?

>1 represents entirety as a singularity
So I'm guessing you're referring to this as "the principle" or "whole"? Let me ask you what is "complete" in nature or space or anywhere? There is no "completeness", it changes constantly and the proof is in the very cells in your body reproducing. You are never "complete" just as everything else is never "complete". So right off the bat "1" doesn't exist at least if you believe that the universe wasn't created as a completed "thing" that never changes. This is obviously not the case, goodbye "1" we knew thee well.

"infinite wholeness"=contradiction. How can something be "infinite" and "whole". No it's one or the other. Obviously it's not whole so "infinite" it is.

[Anonymous No.9802141]

>>9802139
Was about to add what "0" is but >>9802125
this anon saved me

[Anonymous No.9802146]

>>9802139
>Look at those Zero's in maxwells equations
>Look at them

[Anonymous No.9802151]

>>9802146
>look at all these equations that describe what fields do without any explanation to what a "field" is or where a "field" even comes from.

Neat. It's almost like the "0's" are placeholders or something.

[Anonymous No.9802154]

>>9802073
Not perpetual motion.
Using up either the hole's own rotational energy or the gravitational potential energy of the material dropped in.
Doing so very efficiently, but not pulling energy "out of nowhere".

It's like the notion which pops up on /sci/ periodically; saving on rocket fuel by lowering a cable from the ISS and snagging material to be lifted into orbit. They don't comprehend they're de-orbiting the space station and there is no free lunch.

[Anonymous No.9802155]

>>9802080
Perchance, does your first name start with "G" and your public last name with an "L"?

[Anonymous No.9802167]

>>9802139
Not who you're replying to, but "one" is the platonic ideal of oneness, and two is the platonic ideal of twoness, or duality. There isn't a whole, but there is an idea of wholeness. We count one, two, three, four... And these natural numbers are means of measuring the world, but what qualia can we extract from them?

I'm not versed in this Vortex math stuff, but I've come across it, and it seems to look for a symbolic pattern in the cosmos, instead of an objective pattern that can be realized through cold calculations.

Now, we have symbols in our lives. We live through symbols and interact with symbols. All of our interactions with the world are mediated by symbols - - natural and formal languages, ideations and goals ET cetera. I don't know where this Vortex math goes, but it seems to be looking for a way to crack the world by understanding its symbolic patterns, and not its mere behavior.

I could say that it is to physics what Cognitive behavorial theory was to behaviorism.

[Anonymous No.9802168]

>>9802139
>of WHAT
What do you mean of what? They are the opposites of themselves.
>Female, Male, both are still human. One thing with only the illusion of duality.
That's my point, three exists both as a duality and a singularity, which would be consciousness.
>First of all, there are no "negatives" anywhere in nature, space or otherwise. There is "Charge and discharge" but all that refers to is a pressure mediation. Second, numbers are numbers. They don't explain anything so can you please clarify what it is you're getting at?
If negatives can't exist then neither can positives, again this duality is fundamental because it's also a singularity.
>So I'm guessing you're referring to this as "the principle" or "whole"? Let me ask you what is "complete" in nature or space or anywhere? There is no "completeness", it changes constantly and the proof is in the very cells in your body reproducing. You are never "complete" just as everything else is never "complete". So right off the bat "1" doesn't exist at least if you believe that the universe wasn't created as a completed "thing" that never changes. This is obviously not the case, goodbye "1" we knew thee well.
We don't experience completeness because consciousness is experiencing duality, not singularity.
>"infinite wholeness"=contradiction. How can something be "infinite" and "whole". No it's one or the other. Obviously it's not whole so "infinite" it is.
Because we don't experience infinite wholeness, we experience finite incompleteness, but that's only on a physical level, mathematics has the power to describe reality at all levels, but it must map to it correctly first.
>>9802155
Afraid not.

[Anonymous No.9802174]

>>9802167
>>9802168
Word-salad. Not even very good word-salad.

[Anonymous No.9802180]

>>9802174
What does '1' represent to you?

[Anonymous No.9802217]

Remember people reading this, only argue with a narcissist in public and not when it's just you two debating. They tend to never give up so simple dialog with them is fruitless as you can see earlier in this thread, where they will refer to themselves as above, ahead, or ascended past you, society, nuclear physicist, god himself
>>9801437
>It's not a vague search its literally the fucking proof, what else do you need? a whole type of some utter bullshit or a few minutes video explaining everything? I didn't link a video because im busy and you could spend some time looking through different videos to notice patterns
>>9801450
>If you were truly intelligent, you would have respect for people like Nikola Tesla.
>A reason why Tesla coils aren't widespread cause it fucks with the pockets of a few people. People that make billions just off energy. Imagine someone implemented a way to destroy their income in a single day?
>>9801501
>The fact is though, even if you say all this nonsense that it isn't real. It actually is, you need to learn a whole new branch of science, not the stuff taught in grade 11 high school.
>Keep on studying meme tier sciences and maybe you'll get those couple bucks you really need. I'm a real scientist because I understand how the universe works.
>>9801534
>You think only with left brain and not with both, as someone who uses both sides of their brain to the fullest. You are truly a fucking retard, the youtube videos are more than enough proof.
>>9801789
>"Three is the magic number".
>3, 6, 9 are the digits that show true connectedness.

So remember that faggot narcissist can't be reasoned with and will resort to spewing shit like 0 isn't a number when all of there other horse shit fails. Debating in private is of zero value, I only fight these faggots to show to the onlurkers what these fools resort to.

[Anonymous No.9802222]

>>9802217
>So remember that faggot narcissist can't be reasoned with and will resort to spewing shit like 0 isn't a number when all of there other horse shit fails. Debating in private is of zero value, I only fight these faggots to show to the onlurkers what these fools resort to.
Spouting ad hominems doesn't get you anywhere. Can you please prove to me that 0 is a number?

[Anonymous No.9802239]

>>9802222
What number satisfies the equation 5+x=5?
5+0=5
oh look the number zero (and no other number) satisfied the equation which therefore proves 0 is a number and is actually known as the additive identity.

[Anonymous No.9802242]

>>9802222

[Anonymous No.9802248]

>>9802239
Changing 0 to a letter doesn't make it a number. Zero cannot be added to anything because it's not a number. For addition to occur, the numbers on the left must be different to the numbers on the right, otherwise you have done nothing.

[Anonymous No.9802258]

>>9802242
y u mad tho

[Anonymous No.9802281]

>>9802248
>One cannot be multiplied by anything because it's not a number. For multiplication to occur, the numbers on the left must be different to the numbers on the right, otherwise you have done nothing.

[Anonymous No.9802300]

>>9802281
We're not talking about multiplication, we're talking about addition.

But perhaps you could make the argument that 1 x 1 = 2. Because 2 x 2 can also be written as 2 + 2. 3 x 3 is 3 + 3 +3 etc. So 1 x 1 is 1 + 1 which I think equals 2.

[Anonymous No.9802322]

>>9802167
>but what qualia can we extract from them?
Tell me how a "quantity" can describe a universe that contains nothing but quality.
>>9802168
"hot and cold"
"What" meaning "what is it" that is hot/ cold? What is defined as "hot/cold"? Same goes for the other. All you've done is named descriptors and called them a "duality". Descriptions are descriptions, not dualities.

>That's my point, three exists both as a duality and a singularity, which would be consciousness.

>If negatives can't exist then neither can positives

>something cannot come from nothing but it can come from less than nothing.
No

>mathematics has the power to describe reality at all levels, but it must map to it correctly first.
Math will never, ever have the ability to explain reality. The universe is not a fucking calculator. What do you mean "all levels" that sounds like Buddhist chakra mythology bullshit.

[Anonymous No.9802325]

>>9801286
No such thing as perpetual motion. Don't trick yourself.

[Anonymous No.9802339]

>>9802180
The number which, when multiplied by any number "N" results in the same number "N".
The inverse operation, division, also applies. Dividing any number by 1 leaves the number unchanged.

A number which, when added to any integer, gives the next sequential integer.
The inverse operation, subtraction, also applies. Which means "0" and "-1" are integers.

Any speech conjoining "singularity", "duality", and "consciousness" belongs in the trashcan of /x/ along with "yin and yang" and the rest of the Shirley McLain nuttiness.

Unbelievable that this thread has actually gone DOWNHILL from Perpetual Motion.

[Anonymous No.9802360]

>>9802322
>"hot and cold"
>"What" meaning "what is it" that is hot/ cold? What is defined as "hot/cold"? Same goes for the other. All you've done is named descriptors and called them a "duality". Descriptions are descriptions, not dualities.
The duality exists in nature, and our senses communicate this to us, which we describe as "hot" and "cold". The only counter argument to this is to say that we don't actually know whether "hot" and "cold" describes our all our experiences of those words, perhaps something hot to me feels itchy to someone else.

That is a valid counter argument but is not sound, considering our biology is extremely similar, and our behaviour around things we describe as hot and cold is very similar. There's no reason to assume these descriptions aren't describing something objective, only they are experienced subjectively.
>No
Okay.
>Math will never, ever have the ability to explain reality. The universe is not a fucking calculator. What do you mean "all levels" that sounds like Buddhist chakra mythology bullshit.
Mathematics has the ability to assign quantity, in a purely logical way that satisfies both formal logic and number logic, upon metaphysical concepts that can map to experienced reality. Formal logic will keep mathematical concepts grounded in reality, the axioms must be logically sound before they're used.

[Anonymous No.9802382]

>>9802360
>The duality exists in nature, and our senses communicate this to us, which we describe as "hot" and "cold".

That is nothing other than an illusion caused by motion. The only difference between a hot an cold object is one has MORE MOTION applied to it. Just because we call it "hot and cold" doesn't mean that that magically makes it a duality of "hot and cold". No, it's either
>more motion
>less motion
>motion being the 1 thing (not a duality)

>Mathematics has the ability to assign quantity.
Nothing has the *ability* to assign quantity because there is no quantity. Ultimately it comes down to "fields" which aren't physical in the slightest and cannot be quantified.

It is purely the quality of the (thing) that defines it. I will be glad to post countless examples as nature has provided an endless source of them.

[Anonymous No.9802385]

>>9802382
>Ultimately it comes down to "fields" which aren't physical in the slightest and cannot be quantified

[Anonymous No.9802400]

>>9802339
>A number which, when added to any integer, gives the next sequential integer.
>The inverse operation, subtraction, also applies. Which means "0" and "-1" are integers.
How does 0 give the next sequential integer again?

[Anonymous No.9802402]

>>9802385
If you want to name the physical part that makes a magnet repel and attract then please be my guest. ICP's question still goes unanswered. The only difference between a chunk of ceramic, iron filings, various bits of copper, nickle,boron and an actual formed magnet is the alignment and coherency of said materials.
AKA
>the quality of said materials

[Anonymous No.9802411]

>>9802382
>>more motion
>>less motion
>>motion being the 1 thing (not a duality)
More motion and less motion is not a duality? You're just using different words to describe the same thing.
>Nothing has the *ability* to assign quantity because there is no quantity. Ultimately it comes down to "fields" which aren't physical in the slightest and cannot be quantified.
Is there a quantity of fields, or no quantity of fields?

[Anonymous No.9802442]

>>9802217
You are still at it huh?

Here is some pictures, take a look at it. Maybe you'll start to understand more about the universe. Do you believe in a supreme omniscient being?

If not, here's your proof of God.

[Anonymous No.9802446]

>>9802442

[Anonymous No.9802448]

>>9802442
All I see is proof of mental illness.

[Anonymous No.9802451]

>>9802217
Numbers where brought not man-made. They have more meaning than just a placeholder. It holds the secrets to the construction of our universe. It also proves that free energy is a thing.

[Anonymous No.9802455]

[Anonymous No.9802461]

>>9802411
>More motion and less motion is not a duality?

WE'RE STILL TAKING ABOUT MOTION.

>You're just using different words to describe the same thing.

AND HERE YOU HAVE JUST DISCOVERED WHAT "DUALITY" MEANS. "MORE/LESS"=THE PERCEIVED "DUALITY". MOTION=THE THING THE "DUALITY" CONTROLS. That does not make the *thing* a duality. Want to apply this to light too?

"Wave-Particle Duality"

"Wave"-what something does, not actually a thing more than what the thing is doing.
Duality already destroyed by that statement but lets move on.

"Particle" -Iota of "energy packets", "indivisible units". Also not actually a thing, more so a measurement of constructive and destructive interference of waves (which we've already found aren't actually a "thing", it's what something does).

>Is there a quantity of fields, or no quantity of fields?

You can say that there are multiple "fields" just as you can say that there multiple magnets, ultimately when you split "1" magnet you get "2" magnets, BUT their quality has obviously changed. The magnets can be attracted to once again form "1" magnet, just with a different quality present. A clump of magnets has a different quality than a coherent solid magnet, this is the only difference present. They are forming "fields" that can ultimately (and are ultimately) form once again into 1 field. You can say there are "x quantities of magnets" or "x qualities exhibited by ultimately 1 field", only one of these statements is true because ultimately the "quantity" of magnets came from 1 magnetic field.

[Anonymous No.9802462]

[Anonymous No.9802464]

[Anonymous No.9802468]

[Anonymous No.9802473]

>>9802468
Now I know you, you're the massive blatant paradoxical-contradiction vortex asshole that posts self-defeating posts on /x/. I'm not destroying you again, you believing "0" exists is insult enough.

[Anonymous No.9802476]

>>9802222
Why would you need proof of a definition?

[Anonymous No.9802484]

>>9802464
>>9802462
>>9802455
>>9802451
>>9802446
>>9802442
>>9802468

Red Alert Red alert we have gone off the deep end!

[Anonymous No.9802507]

>>9802462
>>9802464
Please post more photos I want to see how ridiculous you can get.

[Anonymous No.9802512]

>>9802473
>>9802484

I'm not the same person I just share similar beliefs, because you sound like a child. If you can't find the key for the house and you dropped it inside the basement. its all dark and shit, then you go outside are start looking for the key.

Does that make any sense to you?

Everything is apart of this God, it is the source of all the energy in the world.

Do I have to ask, why resort to insulting, are you truly that lost to still listen to meme tier sciences? Some of its correct some of its bullshit.

Start reading more about energy, start reading about sacred geometry, expand your mind stop sticking to a set of x because it combats y belief you will not go anywhere if you don't keep an open mind.

To say duality is just utter nonsense, do you even understand what duality is? Do you notice fucking patterns? Do you even care about patterns or do you think it just like that cause of luck?

What if the pattern keeps on repeating?

Will that fucking change your mind? if not, maybe to study science is what? to stick to the same stuff learned in fucking public highschool and not expand?

You know if humans really understood vortex math we could go anywhere in this universe, we could have free energy, we could have AI(we already do), etc. all this good fucking shit will start to happen

[Anonymous No.9802538]

>>9801534
>No fucking point in wasting energy
But I thought energy was free, Anon?

[Anonymous No.9802540]

>>9801450
Try harder.

[Anonymous No.9802547]

>>9802512
>vortex math
alright boys pack it up, this guy is genuinely mentally ill

[Anonymous No.9802561]

>>9801836
>God only deals with natural

[Anonymous No.9802612]

>>9802512
>start reading about sacred geometry
It is hilarious that you say this and believe in "0" as concept that can be actualized. From nothing comes nothing. The golden ratio DOES NOT come from "0", a ratio cannot even have a fucking "0" to begin with. Sacred geometry IS NOT derived from "0. The Fibonacci sequence DOES NOT start with "0"(some retards actually try and dispute this fact and claim it does despite their very existence proving them wrong)

>To say duality is just utter nonsense, do you even understand what duality is? Do you notice fucking patterns? Do you even care about patterns or do you think it just like that cause of luck?

patterns of what? tiles? You can call them a pattern of tiles or "tiles" it's the same fucking thing. Do YOU know what "duality" means? "having two parts, often contradictory".

>What if the pattern keeps on repeating?
It's still a fucking pattern of (thing)!

>Everything is apart of this God, it is the source of all the energy in the world.
So the "Waves of what" question is now answered as "waves of God". Fitting since we're created in his image, there is no "source", "first cause" or and nonsensical entity we could label as "God", everything is self-similar in nature. Any attempt by a human at defining God is fundamentally flawed and not even worthy of debate because of this reason. You don't know God, all you have are incommensurable observations and 3rd party mediators(3rd party observers) to tell you what God is.

>You know if humans really understood vortex math we could go anywhere in this universe, we could have free energy, we could have AI(we already do), etc. all this good fucking shit will start to happen.
>If we humans understood how to make up shit using numbers and math (like we've always done), but do it faster and more efficiently, we would be so much smarter! Yes we should all make up shit faster and that would make us smarter than actually understanding that math can't explain shit in the first place.

[Anonymous No.9802624]

>>9802512
I believe I'm everyone and everything, no boundaries truly exist but I'm experiencing life as an individual entity BETWEEN an eternity, so I currently have acquired the property of "inbetweening" this allows the subjective experience of more or less, close and near, hot and cold, light and dark, quick and slow, thing a and thing b, truth and lie,space and time, differentiating is an emergent property of the universe. Also, because I exist as a being encased in limited duration, who wouldn't survive without the ability AND THE DESIRE to differentiate, requires that the universe itself have the ability to be differentiable (it doesn't have to be easy though) to an entity but that doesn't mean the act of differentiating separates you distinctly from the universe as a whole. ok? Is my mind open enough for you?

And your vortex math is still bull shit you narcissistic faggot, It just makes you feel good to think you have the secret math that nobody else knows or the public schools wont teach because it's the "real math that will make all the problems go away".

You have never used an equation in real life have you? If I apply 100 Joules per second over a period of 10 seconds to a "functioning" rodin coil and an how many joules per second (a.k.a. Watts) will the output of the rodin coil be? How long could you illuminate a 60 watt Light bulb with that amount of energy.

According to E=MC^2, one kilogram of mass at rest if converted directly into energy contains 89875517873681760 Joules of energy or the ability to power a 60 watt light bulb for 1497925297894696 seconds or 47466537.37927 years.
It's why atom bombs are so powerful as they release energy from the atomic level rather than chemical.
Can your vortex math make any statement similar to this?

[Anonymous No.9802638]

>>9802612
>>What if the pattern keeps on repeating?
>It's still a fucking pattern of (thing)!

Imma hop in here real quick ghost rider. Aren't you the one that said that waves are something that "things" do? Well it goes the same for patterns doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.9802661]

>>9802638
a medium is a medium, still doesn't make it a duality

[Anonymous No.9802669]

>>9802661
I don't know what the fuck you are arguing about desu

just picked that up about the "things" and "what things are doing"

[Anonymous No.9802703]

>>9802669
Pattern of tiles=fucking tiles
Waves/frequency= Fucking magnetism and electricity. Not just "waves" as a noun because there is effectively no proper form of "waves" as a noun because it is also a verb. Hence "Waves of what" needs to be explained before using it as a noun.
And no "magnetism AND electricity" does not mean "duality". There is no such thing as JUST magnetism and vice versa with electricity, they operate as ONE thing only.

[Anonymous No.9802745]

>>9802703
a given frequency is just a basic as fuck pattern
waves and patterns are just "things" that mediums do
the duality guy is gone I think, you can stop talking about that

[Anonymous No.9802756]

>>9802745
>waves and patterns are just "things" that mediums do

That's what I've been saying. Frequency is completely arbitrary too, frequent to...what a second, nano second, another measurement?

[Anonymous No.9802829]

>>9801366
That's not how that works. My understanding was that Tesla wanted to electrify the ionosphere using a massive coil so that end users could access the energy via smaller coils or another big coil that powers a grid. Then again, he was going pretty nuts towards the end

[Anonymous No.9802856]

>>9802756
Inverse seconds, you mong. How do you propose to measure it?

[Anonymous No.9802884]

Aren't siphons perpetual motion?

[Anonymous No.9802936]

>>9802856
however you want? It's still there.

[UnknownInquisitor No.9803331]

fucking hell, i thought this thread was ded

[UnknownInquisitor No.9803335]

i left at 6 replys

[Anonymous No.9803356]

>>9802884
No.
Siphons transfer liquid from a higher tank to a lower tank. Once the liquid is in the lower tank, they stop.

Siphons just take the liquid "over the hump". Otherwise, it's no different from pouring directly from A to B.

[Anonymous No.9803379]

>>9801410
>>9801514

[Anonymous No.9803384]

This thread devolved from OP's question to Tesla Coils.
Thanks >>>/x/

[Anonymous No.9803403]

>>9801363
This looks amazing. Where can I buy something like this to play around with?

[Anonymous No.9803898]

>>9803403
All it is is a magnet and a copper tube. If you want something really cool, take two curved slabs of bismuth, put a magnet between them and another above to lift said magnet. If you do it right, the magnet will freely levitate. It's like wow! A magnet without gravity interfering with it because a piece of diamagnetic substance is displacing the magnetism allowing for higher dielectric acceleration. It's almost like gravity is nothing other than incoherent dielectric acceleration itself...

>>9803331
>>9803335
Okay fine here's your "perpetual motion" machine mr. "please-spoon-feed-me. Also "perpetual" meaning as long as the goddamn earth spins.

[Anonymous No.9803903]

>>9803898
holy fuck I forgot the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg-blZScZJ0

[Anonymous No.9803907]

Diamagnetic levitation. Capable of levitating pretty much anything.

[Anonymous No.9803908]

>>9801410
Magnets don't "run down". Not in less than centuries if you don't hammer or heat them.
None of the scams work because you can't extract energy from a permanent field. The energy a generator puts out is the energy you put in by forcing the conductor through the field against resistance. You're doing work.

[Anonymous No.9803914]

>>9803907
It's the field gradient that matters.
Bismuth (or a frog) in a uniform field won't float.

[Anonymous No.9803925]

>>9803908
correct. This is a common myth from people who use shitty ceramic magnets and clash them together over and over and effectively reduce their coherency. You cannot "extract" from something that is simply a different quality of inertia, that being said a magnet is a coherent dielectric object capable of still transmitting electricity wirelessly. You pass a magnet over a closed copper coil and effectively a current is passed wirelessly to it, the key is that it still needs a conductive medium to continue that transmission in the form of copper/steel and a dielectric coating such as plastic that helps contain this "difference".
Nothing is "extracted" or "emitted" from the magnet, all that has happened is a change in inertia. This is why a magnet will always have the same field until the material starts decaying and the coherency is lost.

[Anonymous No.9803930]

>>9803903
I don't believe it.
The spin of the Earth keeps the Earth's field going, but you can't extract "free" energy from a steady field. I mean, the field isn't drained or diminished by running this gizmo. Neither is the length of the day increased.
You need motion relative to the field.

What happens when you surround it with a Plexiglas shield to stop random air currents?

And gravity has nothing to do with "incoherent dielectric acceleration". Nothing which affects substance A differently from substance B can have any relationship to gravity. You're just using buzzwords now.

[Anonymous No.9803955]

>>9803930
>The spin of the Earth keeps the Earth's field going, but you can't extract "free" energy from a steady field
But that makes it not a "steady field". We are spinning, the sun and moon are affecting us (a fuckton actually). "Gravity" is not even close to being a constant anywhere on earth, in fact absolutely nothing about earth is constant to begin with. You could build an empty wind tunnel pipe from Antarctica to the equator and run turbines from the pressure difference created by it (a pipe dream unfortunately).
>You need motion relative to the field.
This is why elaborates "this by definition is not a perpetual motion machine..." No it's not "perpetual". Nothing is "perpetual" in the true sense of the word, but as long as the earth spins and we can use it, that's all that we should really car about.

[Anonymous No.9803957]

>>9803930
>The spin of the Earth keeps the Earth's field going
Not conclusive. Foucault pendulums stop working during a solar eclipse, they also use magnetic tips.

[Anonymous No.9804074]

>>9803957
Bug off to /x/, asshole!!!
Neither one of those is true.

[Anonymous No.9804165]

>>9804074
Come at me, shit bitch!

Foucault pendulums are magnetic and are detecting the magnetic fields of the celestial bodies rotating above. Show me one that isn't magnetic you pissant.

[Anonymous No.9804184]

>>9804165
the ones that operate on Coriolis forces?

[Anonymous No.9804188]

>>9804184
What are they made of?

[Anonymous No.9804217]

>>9801286
>So you could have two motors that push the magnet back and forth always generating more energy than is used.
no you couldn't.

[Anonymous No.9804263]

>>9804165
You are either incredibly stupid or just a troublemaker.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum
Pendulums constructed of non-magnetic materials, such as brass or lead, are common. Foucalt's was. See picture.
Anyone can build their own if you have room. Anything will do so long as it's dense; lots of energy with minimal air resistance. No reason a concrete weight wouldn't work.

You must be one of those Plasma cosmology retards! You'll start touting the SAFIRE project next. Show me evidence of one that IS magnetic!!!

[Anonymous No.9804277]

>>9804263
>non-magnetic materials, such as brass or lead
They still interact with the magnetic field you brainlet. To truly prove its detecting rotation, then make one out of wood.

[Anonymous No.9804287]

>>9803957
>Foucault pendulums stop working during a solar eclipse
Jesus dude, no they don't.
They obviously won't have a huge angular displacement over the course of an eclipse since eclipses are relatively short, but they will have just as much of an angular displacement as over the same amount of time in the absence of an eclipse.

[Anonymous No.9804304]

>>9804287
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allais_effect

[Anonymous No.9804310]

>>9804304
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allais_effect#Inconclusive_or_negative_experiments

[Anonymous No.9804314]

>>9804310
A gravimeter is not a Foucault pendulum.
A torsion pendulum is not a Foucault pendulum.
>However, after the eclipse, Allais criticized the experiments in his final NASA report, writing the period of observation was "much too short […] to detect anomalies properly".[5] Moreover, the lead supervisor left NASA shortly thereafter with the gathered data and the NASA study has never been published.[25]
Sounds legit...
>Although one of the scientists involved described in an interview to have observed the Allais effect,[29] no result has been published in any academic journal.
Sounds legit...
>An automated Foucault pendulum
An automated Foucault pendulum? Are you kidding?

[Anonymous No.9804317]

>>9804314
Come on, this is /x/ tier.
I bet you believe in the Emdrive too

[Anonymous No.9804324]

[Anonymous No.9804331]

>>9804324
This is how a magnet "works".

[Anonymous No.9804334]

>>9804331
>This is how a magnet "works".
It's hard to tell from this image, but I don't think it is.

[Anonymous No.9804341]

>>9804334
Well you thought wrong dear. He's a ferrocell over a magnet, effectively showing the pattern that forms. Please do tell me what causes this pattern to form on EVERY magnet without using incorrect descriptions such as "lines of force".

[Anonymous No.9804360]

>>9804341
It's just the magnetic field my man. literally nothing to do with the golden ratio except presumably in some particularly contrived geometric configurations.
Quite literally
[eqn]
\nabla \cdot \mathbf{B} = 0 \\
\nabla \times \mathbf{H} = \mathrm{J}_f
[eqn]
my guy.

[Anonymous No.9804375]

HERE IS YOUR ANSWER
>>9801286
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~Elina0174/vacuum.pdf

[Anonymous No.9804376]

>>9804375
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=planck+length+generator+zero+point&t=h_&ia=web

[Anonymous No.9804381]

How is this shit thread allowed here?
Keep the bollocks in /x/ please!

[Anonymous No.9804389]

>>9801349
what the fuck are the eddy currents supposed to be doing here and how am I supposed to be able to distinguish their effects from the effects of lenz law.

[Anonymous No.9804395]

Newton.

[Anonymous No.9804425]

>>9804389
Lenz law is the reason eddy currents exist

[Anonymous No.9804465]

>>9801286
all known physical laws conserve energy, they were designed to do so, if a theory doesn't conserve energy, its probably false, or you didn't account for all of it

[Anonymous No.9804468]

>>9804188
something heavy?

[Anonymous No.9804471]

>>9802829
>Earth in a constant perpetual thunderstorm
>Giant lightning rods to harness energy

Yeah, that could be a pretty cool time-line desu senpai

[Anonymous No.9804513]

>>9804360
>It's just the magnetic field my man.
>It's just literally everything my man

>literally nothing to do with the golden ratio

[Anonymous No.9804524]

>>9801412
Perpetual motion machine does not mean it lasts forever. If you create a magic box that spits out gummy bears, but you need to feed it a few of the gummy bears it produced every few days to keep it running, or replace worn brackets often, that doesn't mean that you failed create a perpetual supply of gummy bears.

[Anonymous No.9804736]

>>9804471
Right? It would fuck up satellite communications though, so we could either have wireless power or wireless communications. Plus I think any lightning effects would be limited to the area around the ball of the coils

[Anonymous No.9804746]

>>9802936
That makes it the exact opposite of arbitrary. The only thing that every wave has in common is being a repeated pattern in time and so that's the most effective way to measure it. You can't measure a sound wave in terms of voltage and you can't measure an alternating voltage in terms of distance but both can be measured in terms of frequency

[Anonymous No.9804754]

The whole universe is a perpetual motion machine.

[Anonymous No.9804787]

>>9804754
no

[ryoka No.9804876]

>space without gravity


OP. How would you have a magnet in the first place?

[Anonymous No.9804968]

>>9804513
Are you stupid?
Just because magnetic flux and electric potential have the symbol phi doesn't mean they have anything to do with the golden ratio.

[Anonymous No.9805856]

>>9801410
WEEEEEW
MUM WHO IS NEWTON?????

[Anonymous No.9806341]

[Anonymous No.9806524]

>>9801286
>so if you had a long enough coil, you would produce more energy than was required to push it.

says fucking who?

[Anonymous No.9806595]

>>9801410

[Anonymous No.9806750]

>>9801286
Speaking about large distances and energy conservation: if you emit photon from sufficiently large distance at point A and catch it at point B, then this photon will be redshifted, because Universe is expanding. That means, photon energy at point A > energy at point B. Where did that energy go?

[Anonymous No.9806753]

That's not at all how coils work. A longer coil doesnt meam more energy, it just changes the volts going through the coil, so the only energy you get out is slightly less than before due to friction and resistance in the wire. Repeat again and again and you'd probably dissipate all the energy in like 4 or 5 cycles. I have no clue why everyone around you was to retarded to explain this, unless you never asked them in the first place.

[Anonymous No.9806794]

>>9806750
>Where did that energy go

Used to create more space

[Anonymous No.9806803]

>>9806794
How about gravitational redshift? Where does the energy go there?

[Anonymous No.9806826]

>>9806803
It creates space to replace the space that's being destroyed by gravity.

[Anonymous No.9806851]

>>9801286
All matter decays over time. All energy is set and available for harvesting and conversion and harnessing, it can't be destroyed nor can you make new energy. You can convert energies into other types of energy. Some things could last billions of years, and some can barely last a few seconds, and black holes are bitches.

Perpetual motion will never work.

[Anonymous No.9806870]

>>9806794
>>9806826
This is wrong. To properly answer the question we must know what dark energy is.

[Anonymous No.9806939]

>>9806870
I hear you're something of an expert on dark energy. Could you please give us a brief explanation of it?

[Anonymous No.9806960]

>>9801665
That is a collection of huge science balls right there. Even mme Curie has massive balls of science.

[sage goes in all fields No.9807015]

ITT

[Anonymous No.9807735]

I feel like I've become a lot dumber all of a sudden. Can't place my finger on why though.

[Anonymous No.9809058]

>>9801410
you are really, really smart.

[Anonymous No.9809913]

I have working perpetual motion machine, it is still working, what you give me for it? Sorry I'm poor and in shop they ask money for drugs and I want to overdose on marihuana so I need money.

[Anonymous No.9810144]

>>9809913
if you really have a perpetual motion machine, you should move to an area where they let people generate electricity and sell it to the power company. There are many other schemes where you could be turning perpetual motion into a cash machine

[Anonymous No.9810167]

>>9801683
>expansion
>universe
There's a nice way to say that

[Anonymous No.9810350]

>>9802300
4x4 = 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 16
3x3 = 3 + 3 + 3 = 9
2x2 = 2 + 2 = 4
1x1 = 1 = 1

[Anonymous No.9810847]

>>9802300

[Anonymous No.9811064]

>>9810144
"Sell it to energy company"

I will barter it for uranium if everything goes well.

[Anonymous No.9811070]

>>9811064
Plutonium is more "dense".

[Anonymous No.9811082]

>>9811070
To explain to the lesser gifted:

Plutonium is cheap way of generating electricity even in outer space, because simplest perpetual motion machines work on gravity.

Also it's unviable to run them in artifical gravity situations and ZPM's running even in total informational vacuum -> feedback loops that works where there is no dark matter. Yes dark matter exist but ETHER does not. KEKS.

[Anonymous No.9811084]

>>9811082
To explain:

Once you go into "outter space" out of dark matter, you need to carry some stuff with you.

Because there is not that stuff, where there is no dark matter.

Matter starts acting differently...

I.E. On certain surfaces, different stuff happens, because there is well, nothing to...

Like... Conductors of certain stuff could "evaporate" because there would be low pressure of dark matter outside.

[Anonymous No.9811242]

>>9807015
it has to be bait. this retarded style of posting in this thread reminds me of something from an old forum

[Anonymous No.9811438]

>>9801286
>Lenz's Law
>Eddy Currents
>The fact that this would have been tried already

[Anonymous No.9811449]

Wow this thread is a mess. Control yourselves

[Anonymous No.9811480]

>>9811449
Sad!

[Anonymous No.9811494]

>>9801286
If you consider the left and right sides of that contraption, there are 7 marbles on the left side and 5 marbles on the right side. I don't think it will be able to rotate clockwise on it's own internal inertia. The slope of the moving balls doesn't seem like enough to drive that extra weight up.

[Anonymous No.9811812]

>>9802146
How come I prefer the differential form even though I use the integral form more

[Anonymous No.9812576]

>>9801286
Brainlets are still married to the "Law" of the conservation of energy

[Anonymous No.9813336]

>>9811812
Triangles

[Anonymous No.9813685]

>>9801286
did you ask the janitor. they have the secrets of the universe.

[Anonymous No.9813755]

>>9803403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENgdSF8ppA

[Anonymous No.9814537]

>>9804314
not Foucault but interesting https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364682607001769
https://www.nature.com/articles/275109a0
http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/374/2077/20150222
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-august-eclipse-created-bow-waves-in-earth-s-atmosphere

[Anonymous No.9814541]

>>9802829
>electrify the ionosphere using a massive coil
it's conductive already
check this too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvTeI74fVhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buSaGIoNXu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34NpyA2OuaE

[Anonymous No.9814544]

>>9804465
time crystals, apparently

[Anonymous No.9814549]

>>9804787
eternity exists

[Anonymous No.9814555]

>>9804471
check this too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvTeI74fVhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buSaGIoNXu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34NpyA2OuaE

[Anonymous No.9814828]

>>9814555
Fulgurites