How exactly would a UFO be built and how would it work?

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Anonymous Mon May 28 22:29:50 2018 No.9774676 [Reply] [Original]

How exactly would a UFO be built and how would it work?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 28 22:46:56 2018 No.9774699 >how exactly would alien technology that is incomprehensible work? Great question, op

>>	Anonymous Mon May 28 22:47:33 2018 No.9774702 >>9774676 If I told you, that would identify it. Also, <------ /x/

Anonymous Mon May 28 22:50:25 2018 No.9774705

>>9774699
You assume a pretty exact identification of an unidentified object.

>How to build UFO
>1: Build any of the myriad otherwise unremarkable objects that people commonly fail to identify.
>2: Release into wild.
>3: Await slew of UFO reports.
>4: ?????
>5: PROFIT!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 28 22:54:52 2018 No.9774709 >>9774705 OP was talking about a flying saucer

>>	Anonymous Mon May 28 22:56:37 2018 No.9774710 >>9774709 Then he should say so. UFOs are almost exclusively, or more likely entirely, not alien spaceships.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 28 23:10:06 2018 No.9774721 >>9774710 sure thing buster

>>	Anonymous Mon May 28 23:16:07 2018 No.9774728 >>9774710 The worst people on /sci/ are the idiots who pretend they're smart while playing word games. Everyone who isn't autistic knew what OP meant.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 28 23:33:16 2018 No.9774740 >>9774702 I'm asking for the science behind it, idiot. There's blueprints out there.

Anonymous Tue May 29 05:56:28 2018 No.9775138

>>9774728
Words matter, and we should be happy someone points out our error.
As for the blueprints for a disk like flying ship try to search for Coanda effect.
I'm not sure a bigger model would scale easily, but it could work.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eAWVt13K2bM#

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 06:26:05 2018 No.9775163 >>9774710 Dear lord you are brain-dead beyond repair For the people that are retarded OP even attached a picture of a flying saucer

Anonymous Tue May 29 06:48:20 2018 No.9775191

>>9775138
Ok, let me tell you why you're a retard. There is literally, Lit.er.ally one purpose of language, and that purpose is communication. The majority of us, understood exactly what OP meant. That means, the language used in the communication was acceptable. At least to those of us without autism.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 06:53:19 2018 No.9775201 File: 155 KB, 400x400, 400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9774676 >how do I build an unidentified flying object If you built it, it would be identified in your inventory.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 07:04:53 2018 No.9775218 >>9774676 they would require a real proper correct understanding of gravity (not that jew relativity meme) and how to control it

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 10:43:14 2018 No.9775549 File: 57 KB, 320x240, 005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9774676 What possible use do you have wih such information? Curiosity? I can point you in the right direction but convince me; why should I help you?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 10:47:51 2018 No.9775561 >>9775201 Fuck. Boipucci destroyer right here. D E S T R O Y E D

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 10:48:53 2018 No.9775563 >>9774740 www.google.com

Anonymous Tue May 29 11:18:57 2018 No.9775613

>>9774676

/sci/ mods don't like unconventional physics even though there is historical precedent that supports electrogravitics as a valid scientific phenomenon. I was banned earlier for explaining the hydrodynamics of luminiferous ether. Looks like Pilot Wave Theory and luminiferous ether are banned topics here. So, in the spirit of not getting banned again, I shall declare that I love sucking Einstein dick and relativity is awesome! Now that is out of the way:

Falcon Lake UFO:
https://youtu.be/jEgdmO7vVJU?t=9m56s

T.T. Brown Electrogravity Vacuum Experiments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4hygoD3RU

Is This What Quantum Mechanics Looks Like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIyTZDHuarQ

Zero Point: The story of Mark McCandlish - The Fluxliner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwOkzaqzog

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 21:01:33 2018 No.9776735 >>9775613 You got discord?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 21:02:59 2018 No.9776739 >>9775549 Because he's asking a science related question on a science board? Settle down, you arrogant fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 21:12:04 2018 No.9776750 >>9775613 Yeah, a lot of /x/ stuff is not on topic here. Such is life.

Anonymous Tue May 29 21:31:56 2018 No.9776785

>>9774676
Build something that changes its appearance/behaviour every time someone ties a name to it.
But then the act of doing that counts as a type of behaviour, so it would have to stop doing this behaviour in order to remain unidentifiable... but then it would be identifiable as something because of its fixed behaviour/appearance.

Tl:dr you can't

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 22:57:41 2018 No.9776896 >>9776735 >You got discord? No sorry, I prefer to remain anon. We can continue privately on Tor if you'd like or just make a post on /x/.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 22:59:08 2018 No.9776898 >>9776896 Why not use IRC over Tor if you're that obsessed with remaining anonymous? not that anon btw

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 23:01:42 2018 No.9776903 >>9774676 I usually use a hubcap and a fishing line, it works pretty well because the fishing line is hard to see.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 23:05:30 2018 No.9776910 >>9776898 >not that anon btw Just trolling the feds that have access to the 4chan cloud. Works of fiction, nothing to see here.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 23:05:50 2018 No.9776911 >>9776896 Use to have xmpp with OTR but not anymore. Not sure how we would use Tor anyway, plus it's not even 'private'.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 23:06:51 2018 No.9776913 >>9774740 >I'm asking for the science behind something that doesn't exist you are the idiot

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 23:13:06 2018 No.9776922 >>9774676 Hate to use an old saw, but... "If we knew how, we'd have them." >>9775613 >I'm so oppressed.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 23:14:38 2018 No.9776924 >>9776922 That's not true, there's people out there who's made home made ufos. to a degree. theres a lot of evidnece out there too. majestic 12

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 23:28:21 2018 No.9776939 File: 86 KB, 1280x800, eugene-mallove.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9776924 Antigravitics and zeropoint is old 1960's technology. Most of it is public information if you know where to look. Follow the trail of dead researchers.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 23:50:19 2018 No.9776964 >>9776922 >If we knew how, we'd have them Ask yourself: What would the public do with an almost limitless source of electrical power and anti-gravitic flight capable of going a few thousand miles per hour? You have no idea how the real world works.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 29 23:55:12 2018 No.9776973 >>9774676 quantum mechanics ?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 00:02:06 2018 No.9776986 >>9776964 What would the public do if (insert magic here) exists? Therefore (insert magic here) exists but is being hidden by the government.

Anonymous Wed May 30 00:06:01 2018 No.9776995

>>9776986
peddling mainstream bs. stop bootlicking. the research is there.

go to 'advanced google search' type in variations of UFO searches and do it from site https://bibliotecapleyades.net/ and you will see all the info you need. but lemme guess its 'magic' right?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 00:18:19 2018 No.9777006 >>9776995 Google whatever you want and you will find all the "info" you need if you are gullible enough.

Anonymous Wed May 30 00:22:32 2018 No.9777010

>>9776995
Of the hundreds of "UFO caught on tape" videos I've seen, none have been compelling. They're all extremely blurry, poorly shot hoaxes. I could maybe buy their shit quality if we were still living in 1995, but this is the age of auto-stabilization and everyone owning an iPhone - it's just not feasible for videos to be that poorly shot.

Let's not even get into the logistics of an extraterrestrial species coming to Earth. Even assuming they possessed the resources, what's their motivation? Fucking around in the sky so crackpots can rake in YouTube views?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 00:35:12 2018 No.9777017 >>9774676 >How would alien machines 1000s of years ahead of us work? Idk magic because thats what it would look like to us.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 00:51:54 2018 No.9777029 >>9777010 Why not read what I recommended you? Instead you watch low quality ufo sightings on youtube.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 01:03:33 2018 No.9777042 >>9777029 >https://bibliotecapleyades.net/ Went to this site. Saw the word 'Pleiadians'. Immediate red flag. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pleiadians

Anonymous Wed May 30 03:32:05 2018 No.9777170
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>>9777010
What if they control our world and secretly programmed all our phones and cameras to filter out their flying saucers and nobody uploads them because they couldnt see it on the video.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 03:42:27 2018 No.9777187 >>9775201 It would have to be built by someone or something simultaneously unaware of it's construction and flight.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 03:43:25 2018 No.9777188 File: 15 KB, 846x594, qrTfX.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9774676 Time to end this. METEOR!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 03:48:01 2018 No.9777195 Could a robot build one? After all they aren't "aware" correct?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 03:53:27 2018 No.9777202 File: 1.91 MB, 340x250, tenor.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9777188 What have you done? https://youtu.be/RaOY3FXxUwk

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 04:04:38 2018 No.9777218 >>9774676 >what does dark matter look like?

Anonymous Wed May 30 04:07:22 2018 No.9777221

>>9777010
maybe you should watch the "UFO caught on tape" video released by the Pentagon, or read the report they made about it. i find your iphone comment very funny, you think you can capture even a good picture of the moon with an iphone camera? not even, much less so a little light in the sky.
not only that, but according to the report of the Nimitz UFO incident, the object could not be seen in regular light, only infrared. you would need a multi million dollar IR tracking system with incredible zoom capabilities, attached to an F/A-18, not "an iphone camera with auto-stabilization".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHwmWnY4P1w

https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document_dev/2018/05/18/TIC%20TAC%20UFO%20EXECUTIVE%20REPORT_1526682843046_42960218_ver1.0.pdf

as for how their propulsion works, they can somehow manipulate gravity by creating a field around the aircraft. this allows them to maneuver in ways that would kill most humans because the occupants are not affected by G-forces (the craft is in its own gravitational frame). the field also allows the craft to move at supersonic speeds without creating sonic booms, because the air molecules are not disturbed. check out "Unconventional Flying Objects: A Scientific Analysis" by Paul R Hill, a former NASA scientist

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 04:09:46 2018 No.9777229 File: 384 KB, 446x414, REEEEEEEE.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9777188 THEY AREN'T SUPOOSED TO KNOW THIS ONE UNTILL ALL OUR PLANS WERE COMPLETED YOU FUCKING MORON. THIS COULD DESTROY THE ENTIRE GALAXY YOU MELODRAMATIC RETARD! DELET!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 04:14:08 2018 No.9777235 File: 357 KB, 500x266, ThenPrepareForAnnihilation.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9777229 So be it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 04:28:50 2018 No.9777257 >>9774699 >>9774702 The world's smartest man Michio Kaku did a show on how flying saucers work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIuAlWR2Drg

Anonymous Wed May 30 04:33:52 2018 No.9777268
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There's already enough evidence to prove there is a phenomenon. That's a fact no matter how much you dismiss it, and that goes for everyone else here. We know the government has had an invested interest in ufos since the 1950s, there's rare cases of mass witness sightings from around the world, and just last year, we finally have the former head of the department of defense (whose had more access to unreleased files) state that these do exist and have been known to disable our technologies at nuclear test sites. Now the only thing we need to get past is actually explaining what they are, and at this point they could be anything. The ET hypothesis and secret military aircraft are the only logical explanations we have so far. Do not ignore this as if it's some crackpot conspiracy bs when clearly this is a much more serious topic than you would think.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 04:34:55 2018 No.9777275 >>9777268 meant for >>9777010

Anonymous Wed May 30 04:38:31 2018 No.9777282

>>9777010
Why do people think that iPhones can shoot something clearly for 30,000 feet? You are right anyway, pretty much all the modern UFO videos are hoaxes, this one isn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIH7ufiBII
>inb4 blurry
Well it's 1950
>inb4 planes
He sent it to the USAF for analysis, they said it wasn't one of theirs.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 04:46:02 2018 No.9777295 >>9777010 Analysis of a frame of another UFO movie shot in 1952 http://www.nicap.org/articles/TheMayherMiamiMovie.pdf Aaaaaand the CIA refused to return the whole film.

Anonymous Wed May 30 04:46:20 2018 No.9777298

>>9775191
If we agree that planet has a definition and that this definition excludes Pluto.
We as a society don't get to change the definition to accommodate you.
I'm not trying to attack your intelligence, I just want to agree that it was a fair correction.

Anonymous Wed May 30 04:48:30 2018 No.9777304

>>9777268
This, being a science person I used to think UFOs were bullshit like Bigfoot or whatever but I read about it one day and was intrigued. It really annoys me that 99% of /sci/ skeptics have never actually read about the UFO phenomenon before decididng it's complete bullshit. That was me 5 years ago, it's called being ignorant.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 04:51:32 2018 No.9777309 >>9775138 You were being autistic, everyone knows UFO practically means flying saucer. The military did build a giant coanda saucer but it flopped. I do think someone should try again with modern electronic control and lighter more powerful engines

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 04:57:50 2018 No.9777319 >>9777304 well bigfoot is also real, but it's just a large primate in caves. ufo's are much more interesting. bumping with turkey ufo incident, for people who say "all the videos are blurry" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imwqRPr83is

Anonymous Wed May 30 05:16:45 2018 No.9777349

>>9777319
Turkey UFO is fake as fuck. Not to sound racist but especially don't trust movies from the third world, they fake UFO movies on an industrial scale for money. Bigfoot can't be real, the purported population is too small to sustain itself. If it were large enough then they would have been easily found. The corresponding argument against UFOs is that space is too vast but there are a number of flaws with this 1) This is taken from the perspective of a human lifespan, ayys could live a thousand years for all we know, maybe they could be eternal robots or frozen on fusion powered generation ships, who knows? 2) FTL solutions to GR exist such as the Alcubierre drive

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 06:42:59 2018 No.9777503 >>9774710 >Then he should say so. Wow Anon. Well all know OP is always a fag, and this thread is no exception. But you out-fagged him. Bravo.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 06:45:31 2018 No.9777505 >>9777503 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19800010907.pdf

Anonymous Wed May 30 11:33:59 2018 No.9777833

>>9777304
> it's called being ignorant.

Under the conventional physics models, space is empty. Old 1960's flying saucer craft (CLASSIFIED) appear to violate the idea of empty space since they use electrogravitics (CLASSIFIED) and possibly neutron propulsion (CLASSIFIED). The power source is suspected to be zeropoint or fusion energy. Very similar to what we observe on the surface of the electric sun. The assumption that physics models are full and complete without any form of censorship is naive. There are many private and governmental interests that would like to keep things the same and they work closely with the education system. Ever see a weapons contractor poster in college? Whom do you think are building these advanced craft?

If OP is wise he would steer clear from this subject. Electrogravitics involves deadly high voltages for flight control and high electric charge for nullifying local gravity. Anti-gravity is accomplished with an array of flat multi-layered capacitors containing high charges (See Fluxliner video on Youtube). Mark McCandlish has some of the best technical descriptions you'll ever find. Certainly not a project for the amateur.

Anonymous Wed May 30 12:02:36 2018 No.9777897

>>9777833
Even the Teller-Ulam design is more or less common knowledge, North Korea somehow found out about it so there is no way the US could keep antigravity tech from the Chinese and Russians. Electrogravitics was debunked way back in the 1950s, it's just ion wind. I believe in UFOs but I don't believe any of the conspiracies, the government knows and has nothing beyond a bit more radar and film proof than what the public has access to. But they don't have a fucking clue where they came from or how they got here so they keep quiet about it to avoid mass panic. Some of the triangles however are likely indeed US black craft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft)

Anonymous Wed May 30 12:47:30 2018 No.9777977

>>9777897
>t's just ion wind.
>Electrogravitics was debunked way back in the 1950s,

1940's-1960's is when everything related to anti-gravity and nuclear energy went black under the guise of national security. Also happens to be the period where people started witnessing unidentified flying craft. Coincidence?

Here is an interesting timeline to place things into perspective:

“I am now planning aerial machines devoid of sustaining planes, ailerons, propellers, and other external attachments, which will be capable of immense speeds” Nikola Tesla 1912

"I have worked out a dynamic theory of gravity in all details and hope to give this to the world very soon. It explains the causes of this force and the motions of heavenly bodies under its influence so satisfactorily that it will put an end to idle speculations and false conceptions, as that of curved space. According to the relativists, space has a tendency to curvature owing to an inherent property or presence of celestial bodies." - Nikola Tesla 1938

The first major UFO sightings ("Foo Fighters") occurred in 1941 close to the border with Germany.

Nikola Tesla Died in 1943 - His papers were seized and some remain classified today. Connections between german spies and Tesla exist.

Electrogravitics Research, TT Brown, 1958-1960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4hygoD3RU

Eisenhower Speech, Science and National Security,11/7/1957 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9dbBWA5dmA

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 12:50:53 2018 No.9777984 >>9777977 >Tesla Stopped reading here

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 13:11:47 2018 No.9778019 >>9777977 >related to anti-gravity and nuclear energy went black Eisenhower Farewell Address - 'Military Industrial Complex' WARNING 1961 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU

Anonymous Wed May 30 17:08:56 2018 No.9778498 [DELETED]

>>9777349
you can't just say "x is a hoax" with no argument. turkey is not third world lol. and the footage was verified to not be a hoax by the state of turkey. you can choose to ignore facts, but the footage was verified to not be CGI, it's footage of a real object.

>bigfoot can't be real
why not? this is just denial at this point not arguing. there could be tens of thousands of bigfoots in NA alone, it's not like there's 1 or 2 like most people think. it's totally possible that a large primate that doesn't like to be found has remained elusive to humans. you're underestimating how vast the forests are.

>>	SAGE Wed May 30 17:19:19 2018 No.9778512 SAGE!!! THIS IS NOT /SCI/!!!! SAGE! SAGE! SAAAAGE!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 17:36:39 2018 No.9778534 >>9778512 careful dude i got banned last time i reported+saged a thread that was not /sci/ with the text "abusing sage feature and report system"

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 17:41:52 2018 No.9778542 >>9778534 The main goal of a /sci/ mod is to reduce workload, so it's easier to ban reporters of malcontent than posters spamming malcontent

Anonymous Wed May 30 18:31:23 2018 No.9778623

>>9778512
>>9777984

Why do relativists prefer to erase Nikola Tesla from history rather than face the possibility that they could be wrong? Einstein may have won the popularity contest but that does not give you the right to rewrite history or ignore inconvenient parts.

Scientific history is part of science.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 18:34:18 2018 No.9778629 >>9778512 desu ufology is more scientific than racial theories, at least there's some measurement with scientific instruments (radar) as opposed to some made up biased "test" (IQ)

Anonymous Wed May 30 18:40:24 2018 No.9778637
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>>9778623
>Why do relativists
Jesus...

>prefer to erase Nikola Tesla from history
I'm sure it seems that way to you. He should be remembered as the inventor of the squirrel cage induction motor, and little else.
But his fanboys would consider this to be an insult to the "man who invented the modern world".
yep...
...sure

Anonymous Wed May 30 18:46:35 2018 No.9778648
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>>9778629
>hur dur UFO hyuck hyuck

One of the greatest minds in human history claims to have plans for an electric flying craft. 26 years later he develops a theory of gravity. Only 3 years after, electric flying craft are observed by many people. Bro, do you even science?

Anonymous Wed May 30 18:53:46 2018 No.9778659

>>9778629
>some made up biased "test" (IQ)
Ooh! ooh! I forgot that one.
I've been making a list of things some /sci/folk just don't believe in. Adding IQ, I get:
IQ
time
gravity
atoms/particles
QM
GR (see>>9778623 >Why do relativists prefer to erase Nikola Tesla from history)
human consciousness
the universe itself (simulation 'tards)
a heterosexual engineer
Am I missing anything?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 19:05:34 2018 No.9778672 >>9778659 Alien life anywhere in the universe.

Anonymous Wed May 30 23:24:48 2018 No.9779045
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>>9777349
the turkey ufo footage was very heavily verified to not be CGI by the state of turkey, which is not a third world country and has a higher GDP than Iran. it's footage of a real object.
and your argument for "bigfoot can't be real" is that there are too few of them? i thought they weren't real. how do you know how many there are? there could be tens of thousands in North America alone. it has been found before, but of course you've already made up your mind that all these sightings are "hoaxes". i invite you to watch the classic patterson gimlin footage and confidently say that it's a hoax. no costume at the time would have the muscle movement, hair growth patterns, sheer size, or small details such as individual toes being visible on the bottom of the feet.

the quantity of aliens or bigfoots is really irrelevant to whether or not they are real. that's not a very scientific argument.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 23:29:10 2018 No.9779055 >>9778648 >One of the greatest minds in human history >plans for an electric flying craft >develops a theory of gravity >electric flying craft are observed by many people. Except that none of this is true. Teslaposting belongs on >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Wed May 30 23:43:08 2018 No.9779076 >>9777282 They're jets. >He sent it to the USAF for analysis, they said it wasn't one of theirs. Liar, the USAF said it was two F-94 jets that landed shortly after the footage was taken.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 31 01:01:24 2018 No.9779134 >>9778648 >. Only 3 years after, electric flying craft are observed by many people Tesla dies in '43, the ufo phenomenon exploded in '47, that's 4 years. See also: 1947 = the first year helicopters became commercially available.

Anonymous Thu May 31 02:23:22 2018 No.9779233

>>9779134

First sighting of the electric flying craft was in 1941. Formally reported (and named by the U.S. 415th Night Fighter Squadron) 1944 and onwards. Witnesses often assumed that the foo fighters were secret weapons employed by the Germans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter

>>	Anonymous Thu May 31 07:15:36 2018 No.9779488 File: 3.05 MB, 2305x1641, 6952387-012.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9774676 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6920770 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6981836

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 1 00:17:39 2018 No.9781224 >>9774676 think about the relation between light and a telescope, now change light for gravity, you must construct a gravity lens-device.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 1 00:21:29 2018 No.9781231 >>9774676 Well if you mean UFO by tits literal definition, any alien spacecraft would be a UFO >>9777188 lel

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