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How far away are we from having a computer that can read commands, and generate a program itself?
What research is being done currently?

https://www.princeton.edu/~hos/Mahoney/articles/miscellany/ieeetalk.html

>> No.9773486

>>9773478
All computers read commads

>> No.9773491

>>9773486
Do we have something that can code a program from that?
What are we working on towards that end besides machine learning?

>> No.9773502

>>9773491
>besides machine learning?
Almost nothing. DSLs of any possible kind which is just DSL after all.
'Do what I mean not what I say' is as far away as in 1960s.

>> No.9773513

>>9773502
Yeah, and even then there really isn't much of a economic application for it.
Software is pretty cheap to produce.

>> No.9773600

>>9773513
You just cannot be wrong more.

>> No.9774122

>>9773478
If you use enough specificity to tell the computer to do what you want it to do, you are essentially writing the program.

Are you talking about giving a vague description to the computer and having it fill in the blanks?

>> No.9774146

it is possible using a harvard computer architecture where the code and data are in completely separate memory and connected to the CPU with separate busses

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>>9773478
Charles Babbage was asked a similar question about his Analytic Engine.
It's advantage was that it wouldn't make mistakes. You pun in the correct numbers and you get the correct answer.

Someone asked if it would still produce the correct answer if you entered the WRONG numbers.
I don't know if history recorded Babbage's reply, but I'm pretty sure I know what he THOUGHT of the question -- and the person who asked it.

What you're asking for is General Intelligence; a machine which only needs a problem explained to it and then works out the methodology on its own.
It's not "what's the square roof of 135435?" It can, presumably, find an algorithm for that. It's more like "Prove the Riemann Hypothesis!"
If WE don't know how to do something (or we do, but don't tell the computer) it's at a loss. "Creativity", "Insight", and "Understanding" haven't been reduced to procedures yet. Think of the pointy-haired boss in Dilbert as an example of someone who doesn't "get it".

>> No.9774177

>dude it will just know what problems we want to solve then solve them! magic bro!

>> No.9774233

>>9773513
wow idiot

>> No.9774263

>>9773478
what you mean is a semantic recognition automaton. There already exist some and they are called search engines; the most common is google but the most modern is Wolfram Alpha, as it tries to interpret your commands semantically as well as logically.

The most similar to what you are saying is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_universal_constructor
Read about Cellular Automata if you havent

Consider this:
All computers in the world combined could not tell you the correct answer to the question "what will be the weather tomorrow?" A human would estimate. No matter what estimation the human would choose it would be a correct answer.

The problem is that nowadays computers can't give a answer to this question because of their internal logic, which is binary. They have to make absolute statements.

If we are able to build a computer that can physically store possibilities then we would be able to compute with fuzzy logic and natural language interpreters would be easy to design.

blablabla

>> No.9774290

>>9774263
also I just found this beauty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden_(cellular_automaton)

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This is highly classified and I shouldn't be sharing this information. I could get killed, but I sure hope that this information only stays in this thread.

Computers will be able to read commands and generate programs itself in about 1 year from today.

>> No.9775358

>>9773513
Look at this idiot and laugh.

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>>9773513

>> No.9776540

>>9774122
>Are you talking about giving a vague description to the computer and having it fill in the blanks?
Yes, im talking about something like strong ai. Like you tell it hey give me a software that does my taxes, and he goes out and analyzes how the world works and brings a solution

>> No.9776544

>>9773478
Compilers already exist

>> No.9776598

>>9776540
OP here.
This is what I meant.
I just worded the open to the thread badly.

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>>9776544
Yes, your mom is a great cum piler.

>> No.9776611

>>9776605
what a great christian woman she stuck stuff in her mouth as if to say: "you aint kissing me before were married"

>> No.9776627

>>9773478
You mean something like a natural language interpreter?