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9772081 No.9772081 [Reply] [Original]

>the universe is a simulation
>there are infinite universes
>quantum computers will solve everything

>> No.9772085

>2018
>being a universelet

>> No.9772160

>self-driving cars are less than 15 years away

>> No.9772520

>>9772081
>Graphene will revolutionize everything

>> No.9772529

>engineering is science

>> No.9772535

>>9772081
>An interesting thought perpetrated by brainlets who watch too much pop-sci
>Actually true but unfortunately like the first has been beat down by brainlets
>This is untrue, however quantum computers will help us solve specific mathematical scenarios (ex. Discrete Log Problem)

>> No.9772583

>>9772081
>electric cars using rare earth metals are totally great for the environment
>slices open pinky to put in magnet, """transhuman"""
>AI will make everything free and run society perfectly
>Superintelligence in 100 years might kill us and totally isn't a ploy from tech companies to funnel money into "ethical ai research" and divert attention away from automation raising unemployment faster than can be replaced or retrained.

>> No.9772655
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9772655

>space-time is discrete
>X revolves around Y
>the uncertainty principle
>it's in all states at the same time

>> No.9772718

>>9772081
>the universe is a simulation
metaphor taken out of context; the image we receive of "reality" is a "simulation" of photons, pressure waves, and other stimuli that are resolved under the context of a biological vessel as consolidation for its current action.
This functions much like simulation, as stimuli is consolidated under the parameters of the program to provide context for the current action of the user.
>there are infinite universes
Uni- means one, If there are multiple "universes" than what is a "UNI-verse"? The idea of multiple universe is "supported" by quantum experiments; In that there lies the potential for multiple instances of the same event. Not "proven", the idea is "supported".
There may or may not be other "universes" but ours is kinda ripply and stable in the sense a ball of water floating in zero gravity.
>quantum computers will solve everything
Too many variables. Priority becomes the use of quantum computers. That's up to the user. That's both terrifying and empowering, but don't count your chickens before they hatch.

>> No.9773315

>I fugging love science

>> No.9773323

>>9772081
The quantum computer thing is such a mess
Too much popsci going around where people think the whole "superposition of 1 and 0" thing is the important part, when in fact it's being able to use wave interference for a limited set of problems

>> No.9773325

but the reality IS a simulation.

notice how that guy in the meme actually has a big brain? maybe, you should listen to him instead of making fun of him.

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>>9773325
>but the reality IS a simulation.
>t. brainlet

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>>9773325
It's just a hat his wife got him.

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9773362

>>9772081

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9773389

>math is a language (of the universe)
>"""brainfog"""
>ZFC-related paradoxes applied to real world
>infinity
>anything black holes
>anything QM
>nano-*insert anything*
>CRISPR

>> No.9773394

>using the uncertainty principle as a metaphor for anything
>thinking "observer" means "person"

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>advanced A.I.
>Machine learning
>Evolution
>epigenetics
>space travel
>super foods
>magnets
>intelligent materials
>psychology

>> No.9773410

>>9773323
Eh, not really. I mean, first of all, the only reason interference (i.e. cross terms) is a thing is because is because of linear superposition of basis states. So they're fundamentally related.
Secondly, most of the big QAs start with literally just Hadamarding a huge string of 0 ancilla qubits so that you start with a huge tensor product of + states. The result is that, using n ancilla qubits, you have an equal superposition of all 2^n possible n-bit strings. Then your algorithm uses the structure of the problem to sift through the possibilities to find the string which solves it (be it Grover's state rotation or queries to an oracle).
If that isn't demonstrating the importance of "superposition of 0 and 1" then I don't know what is. Of course there's stuff like Shor's algorithm which uses the fact that the 1 state is a superposition over the (approximate) 0/r, 1/r, 2/r, ... states (where r is the order you're trying to find), but it's superposition nonetheless that's being exploited.
Next in importance is entanglement, which lets us quantumly communicate and win nonlocal games etc., but again, without superposition, entanglement would be pretty useless (i.e. superfluous/trivial).

>> No.9773422

>>9772535
you are the exact reason this thread exists

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9773428

>>9772081
>qm means universe is not deterministic
>hard ai already exists and robots taking over is an imminent problem

>> No.9773449

>>9772081
>muh falsifiability
>Dyson spheres
>strong/super AI
>man made immortality
>all things are possible with science given enough time
>nuclear power is the bestest evar, everyone else is just afraid and other insults
>support Monsanto's GMOs or you're antiscience
>you can learn about science without math

>> No.9773453

>>9773422
and you guys are who he's making fun of.

>> No.9773477

>>9772583
>slices open dick to cut in a hole, "transwoman"

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>>9773449
Is this ironic bait?

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9773597

>scientists discovered that A correlates with B
>gene A is responsible for B
this is the worst

>> No.9773609

>>9773547
spotted the redditer

>> No.9773616

>>9772081
>I am high IQ

>> No.9773638

>>9773547
lmao look at this popsci cuck

>> No.9773680

>not thinking mind uploading is literally suicide

>> No.9773737

>>9772081
>anthropogenic global warning is real

>> No.9773785

>dude nothing is possible
Why are you all so unhopeful

>> No.9773791

>>9773785
We aren't unhopeful, it's just easy to see through the overly optimistic view where people either think tech will solve everything and think science is just cgi space pics and stoner talk ie min simulation hypothesis.

>> No.9773796

>>9773791
Fair enough. You're right in people being overly-optimistic about things, remember when everyone thought we'd have a city on mars in a year or so when elon said he wanted to go there.

>> No.9773805

>>9772081
>the universe is a simulation
Theoretically possible. We will never know.
>there are infinite universes
Again theoretically possible, but still we will never know
>Quantum computers will solve everything
Wrong
The problem is not that there are some people talking about the possibilities of stuff like that. But the problem is normies taking this points as fact and not an idea. Its also mostly not about physics but about philosophy.

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>>9773609
>>9773638
>muh falsifiability
The core of theory, literally what makes the most of soft sciences shit.
>Dyson spheres
Meme idea sure, but interesting concept.
>strong/super AI
A possible eventuality
>man made immortality
Sure why not
>all things are possible with science given enough time
Given enough time, yes, using recursive methods you could achieve whatever hard limits there are.
>nuclear power is the bestest evar, everyone else is just afraid and other insults
Unironically it is the best we have, if you think otherwise you're some dumb mathfag of brainless CSposter
>support Monsanto's GMOs or you're antiscience
GMOs are fine, monsanto's business practices are not
>you can learn about science without math
Vague statement, I'm sure you could learn about things at a surface level without any math, but applying said ideas would be impossible

>> No.9774110

>>9773806
this

>> No.9774274

>>9773389

>"""brainfog"""

What?

>> No.9775114

>>9773806
>defending falsifiability

Definitely a popscifag that has never read a textbook.