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Last thread hit the bump limit, feel free to post about anything.

>> No.9768784 [DELETED] 

>Engineering
not science or math

>> No.9768795

>Engineering
No jobs

>> No.9768822
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High School Student here: Is Petroleum Engineering a good field to get into? Are there still jobs in it?

I could get a full ride to University of Oklahoma because I will be a NMS.

>> No.9768919

>>9768822
Right now it's not, my girlfriends grandpa was a petroleum engineer, and he along with a bunch of others just got laid off about a year ago. Your best bet is mechanical engineering since you can still work as a petroleum engineer if you do find a job in that field and if not you would still be able to go into another field. Vice versa, you would be fucked. Alternatively you can major in math and make 300k starting.

>> No.9768925

>>9768795
it's dead jim

>> No.9769008

>>9768919
I understand that the 300k starting thing is a meme, but what are the origins of the meme? Does it come from quant traders?

>> No.9769021

>>9769008
Coping mathfags I guess.

>> No.9769026

>>9769008

It's the logical epitome of the mathfag argument that their major is supreme ruler and if they can complete it they can do anything else

>> No.9769070

>>9768780
Daily reminder that ME and EE are dead

>> No.9769101

>>9769070
lmao, you're a persistent shill.

>> No.9769186

>>9769101
But he's right. There's an enormous oversupply of graduates such that the majority of them don't get jobs.
>inb4 I'm super special and everyone is an idiot except for me

>> No.9769197

>>9769070
All engineering is dead.

>> No.9769210

>>9769197
I'm dead, literally everyone else is just a quickly fading illusion

>> No.9769239

>>9769070
He's right, though. EE in particular is saturated as fuck.

I regret picking EE because of it being shilled as the best engineering discipline on here.

>> No.9769281

>>9769008
>what are the origins of the meme?
The original meme was about a Math PhD, not just a math major.

Of course, any stem phd will guarantee you more than three figures, but for some reason insecure math grade students forced the meme.

>> No.9769301

>>9769239
should've taken those CS classes cuckoo, glad I'm in CompE

>> No.9769507

>>9769239
I was planning on doing EE at uni next year, why is it dead? There seems to be loads of EE jobs in the UK

>> No.9769522

>>9769507
It's dead because there are more jobs than graduates every year so dont bother majoring in EE goyim

>> No.9769535

>>9769522
Majoring/minoring isn't a thing here m80 you just do your degree.

The question is should I do, Electrical & Electronic, Electronic or Electronic & Computer Engineering? They seem to be all the fucking same bar different optional modules in year 3.

>> No.9769540

>>9769507
Yes, now look up How many loads of people with degrees there are

>> No.9769566

>>9769535
If you care about jobs then:
Electrical > Electronic > Electronic & computer engineering(Better get a CS degree than a ECE)

>> No.9769586

Not an Engineering Question, but a college question in general. Has anyone had to take out a private loan, with finical ad and my grants, I'm still a bit short, stammering around 3k a semester. Been trying to cover the costs myself as my family is already taking the burden of my sibling college cost in some expensive private school, but I don't think it will be possible for me to get close at the end of the summer.

tl;dr Private loans? Anyone had to take them? And best ways to deal with them?

>> No.9769590

Am I autistic for being happy because I made the first engineering general thread and you guys took it an ran?

>> No.9769600

Lesson for everyone: Don't go into STEM for the money. Be interested in it, and love it.

>> No.9769604

>>9769600
I love you anon

>> No.9769607

>>9769604
Love you too, anon. <3

>> No.9769609

>>9769590
it's actually just been me who's made the rest of the threads, but it was a good idea.

>> No.9769621

>>9769609
Awesome, I didn't want to make another thread because the first got spammed by mathfags but I guess it worked out.

>> No.9769659

>>9769301
i did take CS classes. i couldn't change my major to CS or CE so I settled for a CS minor

I get rejected by every single software job since they assume all EEs are shit at coding. don't know where the "EEs can become software engineers" meme came from. probably from delusional NEETs on /g/

>> No.9769661

>>9768780
EE is fucking shit and there's no decent jobs

Most of my buddies who graduated took the most entry level of entry level shitheap jobs.

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>> No.9769668
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imagine being an EE major in the US in this day and age

just fucking lol

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>>9769659
>i did take CS classes.
CS classes are utter trash.
>they assume all EEs are shit at coding
Did you put your github on your resume/cover letter?

>> No.9769695

>>9769687
Who wrote this, because literally none of it is true aside from number 6

>> No.9769705

>>9769600
Shut the fuck up holy shit you retarded fucking 19 year old who doesn't know shit about the world.

Work a job you hate if it pays good money and gives you + your family a pleasant, safe, comfortable life with good healthcare with dental and eye care. Save money and buy a house in the suburbs and start a family. Work a job you hate if it pays good enough and looks good on a resume. Use funds to pay for a hobby you can spend your free time doing that you enjoy.

You think the men who came before you loved laboring in factories, digging ditches, sharecropping, mining, etc? If you can find a good paying job in an office, it's a fucking good job.

Holy shit I hate this inane, delusional platitude that literally keeps people below the poverty line. We can't run a society if everyone is a dancer and musician and singer. We need people working stressful jobs. Boomers are importing third worlders by the millions, it's a fucking rat race. in 2018 you have to work your ass off to get a middle class life that previous generations could have working at their nearest factory.

Never make another post to this website again. You are completely out of touch with reality and your feel good rhetoric literally ruins lives.

>> No.9769709

>>9769687
>CpE shill
Literally the most useless and least rigorous engineering discipline.
Worse than CS here at LA.

>> No.9769732

>>9769705
I'm 27, child.

>> No.9769739

>>9769600
i took a low paying stem job once. i was operating under the assumption that the upside of that would be that i would have relative autonomy to get the work done my own way.

boy was i wrong. psycho bureaucrat lady posing as a scientist needed a sci-grunt to slave away and help maintain the veneer of legitimacy

>> No.9769741

Around how many classes do i need to take to get an EE degree? (I already have a ME, so i hope the degrees have some similar classes that i dont need to retake)

>> No.9769744

>>9769741
doesn't matter. don't get one.

>> No.9769751

>>9769732
Honestly, that's even worse and you should feel deeply ashamed for being so retarded and out of touch.

>> No.9769753

>>9769751
You're one delusional, sad little man. I hope you find peace someday.

>> No.9769765

>>9769753
Delusional about what? Imported third worlders suppressing wages? Air conditioned office jobs being objectively easy mode careers? The middle class shrinking? Good healthcare being harder and harder to obtain? Those are all facts. I'll cite them one by one. Not that you care for facts.

So you want to make an argument or just continue to sling around more baseless nonsense?

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>>9769705
>>9769765
this is what happens when you put in literally zero effort
learn from this lads

>> No.9769795

>>9769705
This is the mentality of someone who made it so far in life without making anything out of himself.

>> No.9769895

>>9769586
did you apply for fafsa already? those loans typically have a lower interest rate, other than that private loans are fine, just try to pay them off as soon as possible once you get a real job as in go full rice and beans poor mode until they are gone.

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>>9769705
>reddit spacing and shitty reddit ideas
you gotta go back

>> No.9769935

daily reminder that school rank is immensely important for engineering work and even more important for grad school

a 2.6 at MIT or a 3.1 at Cal are worth more than a 4.0 at State U

>> No.9769937

>>9769935
Daily reminder that they have to offer the exact same coursework ad one another or they will lose their ABET accreditation.

>> No.9769944
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>>9769935
daily reminder this is completely false and plenty have gotten into a good grad school from a state uni

>> No.9769945

>>9769008
Well for a math PhD you are looking at 30K starting, and that is if you are lucky to land a postdoc (t. mathematics PhD).

>> No.9769976

>>9769895
I've completed FAFSA, and know how much I'm getting already. Dumb fees like a required meal plan for freshmen and sophomore is keeping me in the red.

>> No.9769979

ChemE or Metallurgy E? Which is the superior path?

>> No.9769980

ChemE grad here. 6 months after graduation and no jobs to be found. About to get a job at Arby's because I have no more money to pay my student loans with. I wish I were joking.

It wasn't supposed to be like this.

>> No.9769988

>>9769980
chemE is suicide tier, you need an extremely high gpa and plenty of soft skills to pad your resume for even the hope of finding an entry level position.

>> No.9769993

>>9769980
Just go to grad school lil nugga

>> No.9770007

>>9769988
Suicide tier, yes. Had 2 guys kill themselves during the program. Dead serious (... get it?). It almost got me too, but I powered through.

>>9769993
Broski you don't make it through a half decent engineering program with a good GPA unless you sacrifice every waking moment of your free time to boosting your GPA or are a genius. My GPA is trashcan worthy for any worthwhile grad program. A few guys I know who had 3.9+'s, who later got into MIT, were actual geniuses. 100% serious. I am not a genius, just some dipshit who is considered smart by the average person.

>> No.9770010

>>9770007
is a 3.4 literal trash for grad school?

this is including my community college grades. my GPA at my 4 year was a 3.72.

>> No.9770018

>>9770010
I am not the person to ask this question to. 3.4 isn't bad with other stuff, but if you literally have 0 extra-curriculars, part time job experience, co-op experience, etc then it is kinda bad.

>> No.9770034

>>9770010
I think most places look prefer something >3.5, but in the end, it's your whole portfolio (and GRE scores)

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>>9770010
I'm actually in a similar situation. How bad will adcoms cringe when they see my history?
>4 and a half, yes, you read that right, in CC. lots of fucking around. two 5 unit semesters, 3.1 GPA
>3 years at state uni. close to a 3.8. biggest blunder was a C+ in an upper div for EE, and a W in the course after that. got an A afterwards and kept 3.9 in upper div course gpa. also got a C+ in a ChemEng course before I switched

just a very awkward academic history all around

>> No.9770045

>>9769705
>work your whole life away and spend half of your waking hours hating them
Wow sounds like the key to a happy life anon!

>> No.9770053

>>9770010
Isn't GPA for grad admissions calculated with last 90 quarter units/ last 60 semester units?

>> No.9770054

>>9769668
>be Texan
>hate my state
>nervously sweating
>shouldistayorshouldigonow.mp3
Goddamn dude I just want my MSEN bachelor's and work in Boulder, CO
Someone give me hope

>> No.9770101

>>9770045
Toiling so you can provide for your family is the life your forefathers lived. But you're too good for that. Of course you deserve everything you ever wanted out of life and more.

>> No.9770103

>>9770101
are baby boomers the most retarded generation that ever lived?

probably

>> No.9770124
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Why do I need five years of experience to do monkey work in Excel??

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>>9770101
How about I do a job I like and that pays well?
We'll have retards like you do the work nobody likes.

>> No.9770149

>>9769705
Yeah how about you fuck off. You literally admitted it was the boomers fault for importing third worlders. I should at least have the right to complain.

>> No.9770155

EE students and in the industry what software do you tend to use? Stuff from circuit simulators, etc.

>> No.9770172

>>9769741
anyone?

>> No.9770174

>>9769741
It varies at different colleges. Really, just check how to get a minor in EE in your uni.

>> No.9770195

>>9769705
Sounds like you just need to read some Marx. You'll understand everything and stop spewing retarded shit like that again.

>> No.9770200

>>9770155
>EE
>working with circuits

What is this meme?

>> No.9770201

>>9770200
Didn't you have to take a circuit analysis class?

>> No.9770203

>>9770155
>circuits
any spice simulators
>Signals/most other applications
Matlab
>Antennas
CADFEKO is the only software I have personally used
>PCB design
Eagle or other PCB software

Its mostly about what application you find yourself in desu.

>> No.9770211

i finished my MS in EE not long ago. i have had no luck finding a job for my qualifications.

i only got one employer asking if i wanna do work suited for an electronics technician.

EE was a big mistake.

>> No.9770223

>>9770211
What did you specialized in? What country?

>> No.9770227

>>9770211
fucking this

>> No.9770233

>>9770223

United States. I specialized in power.

A lot of my buddies from undergrad are also either unemployed or underemployed.

>> No.9770248

>>9770233
Whew pal. I'm from Chile and EE has the second lowest unemployment rate of all engineering degrees with 5,3% unemployment (only CS is lower with 4,6%). How bad are things up there in the States, in statistical terms? Do you have any data?

>> No.9770251

>>9770233
Did you do any internships?

>> No.9770253

>>9770251
3

>> No.9770254

>>9770233
>>9770211
I had the same experience. About 17% or so my graduating class actually had jobs 6 months after graduating. I can't even find software work since everyone favors CS or CE over EE.

>> No.9770256

>>9770248
Even less than Systems/Industrial and Mech? I really doubt that and I'm south american as well

>> No.9770257

>>9770253
Yeah youre full of shit or have one of the following:
>Shitty resume (not formatted well or bad detail)
>Terrible social skills
>Terrible interview skills
>Not applying to jobs that ask for a little more skills than you have
>Only applying to jobs in a small region and not throughout the US
>Went to meme tier grad school
>Spilled spaghetti in last internship and blacklisted from industry

>> No.9770263

>>9770257
Dude, just get over the fact that /sci/ lied to you

EE is fucking garbage these days

>> No.9770269

>>9770263
I graduated from EE undergrad in 2016 and legit 64% of graduated got employed within 6 months, ~20% went on to grad school. This isnt some top 20 awesome uni either, it is R1 but probably not even ranked for EE or somewhere from 200-600. Keep spreading the meme though as it will give me a job to fall back on if PhD doesnt work out

>> No.9770271

>>9770269
Sssh, don't fight it. Let them leave.

>> No.9770275

EE I's garbage, leave now!

>> No.9770276

>>9770256
Yep. Mechanical and Industrial are incredibly oversaturated here.

>> No.9770279

>>9770276
What is Industrial engineering? I never understood it. And on top of that what is System engineering?

>> No.9770327

>>9770279
Depends on the country and uni. In mine, industrial is a mixture between Mechanical Engineering and Manufacturing engineering with some Chemical engineering classes the first 3 years, and business, finance and math (mostly statistics, optimization and graph theory) classes the last 2 years.
Systems here is basically Software engineering with some business classes.
American degrees seem to be pretty different tho

>> No.9770342

what specialization in EE has the most math?

>> No.9770439

>>9770327
American Industrial Engineering, from my understanding, is where "engineering meets people", and you learn mainly how to optimize productivity in factories and firms as well as resources used. Basically learn how to run the factory.

>> No.9770452

>>9770439
This what I thought it to be.
>>9770342
RF

>> No.9770494

>>9769705
High Quality Post

>> No.9770508

>>9768822
chemical engineering is where its at

>> No.9770510

>>9770452
Is RF the same as Telecommunications?

>> No.9770511

>>9770439
I'm the Chilean guy from this post >>9770276 and here Industrial is exactly the same as what you're describing.

>> No.9770524

>>9769239
I don't get it. If you don't get a job as an EE, just be a codemonkey. You have the programming skills.

>> No.9770532

>>9770524
EEs are cucked by CS, CE, and Math when it comes to codemonkey jobs

a lot of companies straight up trash your CV if they see "EE" instead of "CS"

>> No.9770671

>>9769008
At some point finance was hiring Phds as quants, and you could be really good, hardworking and lucky and score a job that paid something like that.

Now, not so much. Now only suckers do STEM

>> No.9770943

I got a D in Chem, C+ in Phys II and C in Intro to Programming and I currently have a 2.6 GPA because I was going through some rough times. I did well in first semester but not so much the second. The co-op/internship cut-off is 2.3 GPA. Should I retake those classes?
Electrical Engineer major heading to second semester in the Fall.

>> No.9770973

>>9770510
My old advisor gave an example that if youre sending a package somewhere that RF is the type of box you put it in and communications/DSP, etc is what you put in the box if that makes sense. Honestly might be the other way around but they are different. RF is more circuits and antennas based and communications is more signal processing and systems based from what I understood. I didnt go into eithrr though so I have no clue

>> No.9770978

>>9770943
If you have the time and money you might as well retake them and actually focus on them. You may be able to get away with just doing really well the rest of your semesters and showing an upward gpa trend will be good too. Get active in clubs or try to do research to help alleviate the bad gpa too

>> No.9770980

>>9770532
I see people make this statement but I see no sources

Last time I was here everyone was bashing CE for being too in between

>> No.9771036

>>9770532
I guess it depends what kind of EE you are. Cybernetics/robotics is basically 90% programming

>> No.9771080

>>9768780
Hey /sci/, I'm ME grad about to start grad school and I can't decide between going to an experiment lab or a simulation lab. Which is better for jobs later on? Also first lab is in ME and second one is in EE.

>> No.9771106

>>9768780
I posted in the another thread about how I got a job as a "systems engineer" (I know) at a gov. contractor, and they barely give me any work, and the work they do give is filled with ridiculous engineering acronym autism. I will just warn you guys if you want to be mentally stimulated, do not do this.
My job consists of reading requirements for tests our lab does and going through this huge ass shared document and making sure the test procedures are correct, linked to all the right versions of the product. Basically whatever I'm told to do in that document. It is boring tedious, requires nothing I learned in my degree (physics B.S). The pay is good but it is so mind numbing that I'm thinking about trying to switch to another department; we have a department that deals with how our system actually runs, and it involves math and physics.
Having a boring job is not as awesome as it sounds. Should have went to trade school and had a fulfilling life. Oh well.

>> No.9771109
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>>9771080
Do you want a job that primarily involves experimentation or simulation? But, all things being equal, I'd go with experimentation. Literally any pajeet can make a simulation, but only a few can really tie it back to real life

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>>9771106
All engineering jobs are basically like this, though, especially in aerospace. If you want an exciting career, go be a firefighter, or learn to get excited over really autistic stuff.

t. aerospace stress engineer

>> No.9771128

>>9771109
Do you think that it is possible to learn enough programming doing simulations that at some point I can move into software or something similar, if my job prospects are dry after a phd?

>> No.9771144

Next year I'll get a bachelor's in control engineering. Do you think It's worth going for master's in the same field or maybe think about choosing something else?

>> No.9771163

I'm having a mini-crisis. I took a gap year after HS because I went back for a 5th year to get pre-reqs for an engineering degree because I had a change of heart at the last minute where I figured that Engineering is what I want to do. Then, I went through first year strong first sem but then getting passable marks the second, some of them barely passable (I'm >>9770943 btw). Now after two years, I'm seeing people who went for niche two-year degrees in community college get jobs and internships out of the gate. I'm worried if this will all be worth it in the end or if I just missed out on making a somewhat stable living in my 20s just because my indecisiveness before graduating high-school.

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>>9771128
I dunno - good question. There are engineers that focus entirely on simulations or creating engineering software tools, if that's what you mean, and they're always engineers because you need to have that background to tie the software aspect to actual engineering. I've never heard of engineers going into a non-engineering software role, though. Though, I don't know many PhD's either - depending on your research, you might be a good fit for non-engineering roles, idk

>>9771144
Seems like controls would be a good field to do a master's in, but is that the field you want to work in? Figure out what job you want, then make education plans based on that. If you don't know, I'd put off the master's until you get some work experience. Employers will often cover your tuition, which is another perk of waiting. Some large employers will even offer their own classes, taught by in-house PhDs or very experienced engineers, which you might find more useful than college courses.

>>9771163
My first question is, do you just want a comfy job, or do you want to be an engineer? They're not mutually exclusive, but you can get a comfy job with a few weeks of trade school, but it takes at least a four year degree to become an engineer. If you don't have the answer to that, ask around! Talk to your classmates, many of them have friends or family members that are engineers. Join IEEE and talk with people. Ask your professors.

If you decide you want to be an engineer, you know what to do. I would recommend retaking some classes, and taking a lighter course load. Yes, you probably won't graduate in 4 years. Yes, your earlier indecisiveness has cost you. But, the past is the past, and life is long. I work with people that have pursued engineering since middle school, and with people that didn't choose engineering until they were well into their twenties. I really don't see much difference between them.

>> No.9771291

>>9771144
Switched from control engineering to RF. Tough af. grades went from A to C average the first semester (Up to a B now), but I have a lot more jobs to choose from

>> No.9771300

Guys could you hook me up with some high voltage capacitors?

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>>9770195
Marx is a hack and his ideology is a weaponized mind virus that destroys civilizations everywhere it takes root. The French revolution was a mistake. Evola tried to warn us.

>> No.9771566

>>9771514
t. edgy teenager

>> No.9771594

>>9771514
Lol, again, read Marx and stop embarrassing yourself.

>> No.9771610

Asked this in another thread but it's engineering related so I'll post here too. I'm starting a PhD program in chemistry in the fall. How feasible is it to switch into the ChemE PhD program, particularly at the same school? Would it be worth the switch? I know collaborations are common between departments.

>> No.9771629

>>9771594
>muh dialectical materialism
The addled, 90 IQ Marxist mutters to himself when confronted with complex ideas he doesn't understand.

>> No.9771639

>>9771610
speak to your advisors?

>> No.9771651

>>9771639
Wouldn't the chemistry folks be upset that I'd wanna switch at the very beginning of the program? I suppose I can speak with ChemE faculty about it.

>> No.9771660

>>9770452

What kind of math makes RF stand out from other specializations in EE?

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Engineering was gonna my frist choice for uni, in the uk. what course should i do then ?

>> No.9771701

>>9771651
It would be better to switch at the start than to think someone would be on board research and then switch imo

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>>9771664
hi fren

u shud take engeenuring is a good deegre. take linear algebra and calculus 1-3 and diff eq and physics 1-2 ok?

>> No.9771708

So I just finished my second semester as an ME major. I was previously in EE. I was not expecting ME to be a lot harder than EE.

>> No.9771717

>>9771708
>I was not expecting ME to be a lot harder than EE
yep. i'm EE and it seems to be by far the easiest out of all the engineering from what i've seen. definitely easier than ME, although not what people here will tell you

>> No.9771720

>>9771708
ME is the hardest way to spend yiur undergrad because of the course load. Too bad the pay is shit if you can even find yourself a job.

>> No.9771734

>>9771720

I don't really care. ME is a lot more interesting than EE so I'm sticking to that.

>> No.9771740

>>9770140
Obviously you should choose a career you enjoy if it pays well. But not all of us are autistic enough to enjoy monotonous excel drudgery.

Some people enjoy cock and ball torture. If you happen to enjoy that, good for you.

>> No.9771794

>>9771740
I'd rather that than slave labor desu senpai

>> No.9771820

>>9771794
Which is the whole point. Working in an air conditioned office is easy mode and always a job you should take if it pays well and looks good on a resume such that you could springboard to a different job easily at a later time. Regardless if you """enjoy""" the job or not. It's stupid to speculate how much you will enjoy a job before working there, because your enjoyment depends heavily on your coworkers. Something that the 22 year olds on this website don't understand. You might love doing whatever r&d it is you signed up for, but if your peers and boss are dicks, you'll hate it. Meanwhile if you have a dull excel number crunching job, but your boss and coworkers are great, you could enjoy it way more.

The whole point is work a job that earns money so you can spend your free time financing a hobby you love, painting figs or doing motocross or whatever.

>> No.9771847

>>9771820
I wouldn't call it a job you "hate" then. It's a job that you feel neutral towards or dislike at most. Working at a job you hate is horrible for mental health, which isn't worth it even if it can pay for hobbies because if it makes you depressed you won't even want to get out of bed and do your hobbies. Otherwise I agree that just getting a job that is "meh" but pays for your hobbies is a fantastic job. Work isn't supposed to be fun, but you're not supposed to hate it either.

>> No.9771889

>>9768780

Does anyone of you have a good website that lists all the essential high school physics equations? I need to learn them all by heart.

>> No.9771941

>>9771734
Is ME really that interesting? I can't imagine that stuff like Fluids, and heat transfer differ radically from EM, and EE's learn a bit about materials as well.

>> No.9771968

>>9771941

I guess everyone has different interests but I find internal combustion engines a lot more interesting than signal processing.

>> No.9772022

>>9771708
just depends on the college and the person t.b.h

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>>9769301
>>9769659
>>9770532
>>9770980
>>9769709

I'm about to graduate with a master's in CompE and I regret not doing physics or math. Change my mind pls

>> No.9772047

>>9772040
You have some of the best employment prospects of anyone in this thread.

>> No.9772048

I think the main issue is that the market has no more need for green entry level engineers. You need to know how to sell yourself and bring value to a company. Having some experience under your belt prior to graduation seems like a must have. This can be by way of an internship, co-op, worthwhile senior project, FSAE club, etc.

The folks I've seen struggle the most post-graduation are the ones who didn't have any jobs during college, didn't get advice on how to tailor their resume, or didn't get any internship experience. Worse even still is that having a high GPA doesn't seem like a big value driver for a lot of companies. Just being part of the honor society and having the degree doesn't entice a hiring manager.

>> No.9772055

>>9772040
my school's relevant employment rate after graduation is the highest for CompE's.

>> No.9772070

>>9768822
If you want to live in Texas, sure.

>> No.9772074

>>9772047
>>9772055

I realise that, but I don't see the point. Apart from having enough to eat, money means nothing to me. I'm interested in theoretical subjects. I feel like puking when I hear the word "coding".

>> No.9772092

>>9772074
There's a bunch of interesting things in CompE research though.

>> No.9772151

>>9772040
CompE cucks EE in every way possible

>> No.9772165

My school claims to have an 85% employment rate for graduating engineers but refuses to let me see the actual stats or reports, and all the links on their website are conveniently dead

Where were you when you discovered that you went to a meme school? Holy fuck.

>> No.9772175

>>9768822
As others have said, you will get 5 to 10 years of 6 figure salaries but with years of famine in between. You are also limited to where you will find a job, but if home is Oklahoma/Texas that might not be an issue.

As others have said if you want steadier employment it might be better to get a mechanical, chemical, or mining engineering degree and get into the petroleum industry that way.

T. Oilfield engineer with mechanical engineering degree

>> No.9772387

Kek my school has literally 94,7% employment rate for EEs the first year after graduation and I'm from Latin America. Step it up anglos.

>> No.9772392

>>9772387
same, 93% here.

>> No.9772400

>>9772387
That's because a lot of EE hardware jobs are just outsourced, EEs here make the mistake of not specializing in software or telecom

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Not science or math.

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>>9772403
Good lord
Who is this toe hoe??

>> No.9772426

>>9770007
I really don't get why people shit on engineers on this board. They amount of projects and the volume of material they're responsible for is pretty insane. Most math majors won't ever have a semester long project unless they're in an applied programming course or doing research.

>> No.9772431

>>9772426
because they're brainlet's who got rejected from their engineering program during admissions.

>> No.9772477

>>9772175
How do I get one of these mythical $100k salary / low cost of living oil jobs as an ME? Applying to aerospace jobs is so fucking depressing holy shit.

>> No.9772484

>>9769070
damn, im a first year EE student... feelsbadman

>> No.9772495

>>9772387
Brb moving to Latin America

>> No.9772510

>>9772495
The pay is shit compared to USA or Europe tho

>> No.9772573

>>9772510
I wouldn't mind if it's still a good lifestyle with respect to that country. If I can get a nice ass house in Chile or Argentina as an engie and get paid enough to live comfortably then sign me the fuck up bro.

>> No.9772575

>>9772477
Just apply on indeed to jobs in West Texas or North Dakota. There's actually quite a shortage of engineers due to the area getting a bad rep and Boomer retirement. Your salary might not be six figures right away but once you hit 1 year you'll be in a position to demand at least 100k. I made 50k a year after grad, moved here and started at 80k, and now I make 140k after 3 years

Be warned that you'll be doing a lot less engineering than in aerospace. I mostly do construction management and interpret engineering drawings for roughnecks.

>> No.9772643

>>9772575
As a Texan (albeit Southeast), the pay would not be worth living here in my honest onion. I pray to god I can find a job in either Colorado, Ottawa, Taiwan, or Southern China.
Obviously I'll move where the job is but if it isn't either pretty as fuck or Chinese speaking I will have to curl into a ball and die.

>> No.9772677

>>9772510
Yeah but life is fairly cheap too. I'm from Chile and engineers here on average make 5 times the minimum wage straight out of university. This mean we have easy and early access to credit, housing and all the good stuff. Student's loan sucks tho.

>> No.9772705

>>9772677
If I'm coming from America though, then they can't do anything about my student loans other than bar me from going back to the States. I don't have to pay on the loans and I'll know I'll never have to come back, it's a win-win!

>> No.9772717

>>9772677
Still no free education in chile?

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What is /sci/'s book of choice when it comes to studying signals & systems?

>> No.9772740

>>9772717
Not yet, but we're gonna get there! 60% are studying for free at the moment.

>> No.9772759

>>9772740
Where has Chile been my entire life? Why hasn't anyone told me about this country?
What's the Mandarin-speaking population like?

>> No.9772771

>>9770973
Normally you study both

>> No.9772783

>>9772759
>What's the Mandarin-speaking population like?

In the order of 10,000 according to Wikipedia. Chinese stores and restaurants are not uncommon though lol

>> No.9772888

>>9772387
which country mexico? my family is from mexico so if i ever really needed to i could just go look for work in mexico

>> No.9772892

>>9772677
but my aunt makes like the peso equivalent of 100 bucks every two weeks
so you make what 500 bucks

>> No.9772910

>>9772892
We earn around 2000-2250 USD a month straight out of university. Minimum wage here is around 440 USD a month. It's probably miserable by US standards lol but in this country it's more than what the 80% of the total working population earn and that's when you're JUST starting.

>>9772888
Chile. But I'm sure Mexico has some statistics available too that you can look into.

>> No.9773536

>>9772738
Oppenheim is what you need

>> No.9773566

>>9772738
>>9773536
Oppenheim is a legend, but I'd recommend Schaum's outlines for learning and Oppenheim for studying

>> No.9774020

>>9772910
>2000-2250 USD a month straight out of university.
lol

>> No.9774041

>>9774020
not that guy but how brainlet do you have to be to think 2200 usd is the same everywhere? you realize spending power is a thing, and many places are way way way way way cheaper

>> No.9774195

>>9774020
>lol I don't know what GDP or PPP are

Chile's PPP as of 2009 is 354. That roughly means that if the average cost of living in Chile was 1 USD, then in the US the average cost of living would be 354 USD.

Lol who's laughing now?

>> No.9774320

>>9772387
Yeah but you have to live in Latin America

>> No.9774336

>>9774320
Yeah, not having to worry about some maniac shooting up the school/university/public place you're in is great!

>> No.9774348

>>>/adv/19614354
please give me your take lads, I really need an informed opinion.
Been told to ask you here folks.

>> No.9774398

>>9774195
>>9774041
is Chile a shit hole? could retire there right now...

>> No.9774400

>>9774348
You should get an engineering degree unless you know someone and have a connection to a job if you got an economics/statistics degree.

>> No.9774410

>>9774348
CS can deal with a lot of stats and math too if you play your cards right.

>> No.9774503

>>9774020
but thats pretty good . my family is from mexico and none of them make anywhere near that amount of money

>> No.9774704

>>9774320
Living in Argentina/Uruguay/Chile is 10 times better than living in Burguerland

>> No.9774707

>>9774704
Enjoy your domestic terrorism.

>> No.9774719

>>9774704
Could you please tell that to the Mexicans? Really sell it, let them know that it's worth the trip

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>>9769705
>>9769732
>>9769766
>>9769907
>>9770494
>>9770195
>>9770149
>>9770045

>everyone just not admitting that post is correct and we're all too lazy

me included I am too lazy and I know it. You niggers think this is reddit advice, what a fucking joke. It's literally correct, You cant all be fucking artists? do you seriously think this can happen? post AI singularity society 2 years away amirite guys

>> No.9774758

>>9774723
Not being lazy != Acepting a miserable existence doing whatever the fuck you can to make money so you can have a roof over your head and bread on the table

The later is called living under capitalism. No one wants everyone to be artists. We want people to have lives lol it honestly sounds like you don't know how bad it can get for some people. If a job makes you literally miserable and it can be done by a machine, then it's unethical to make someone do that job.

If we reduce our talking point to stressful office jobs, sure, it isn't that bad when compared to physical labour, but that doesn't mean it's not alienating as fuck and that it can't make you equally miserable.

If the point is not clear: not miserable jobs != lol everyone should be artists

A miserable job can be made not miserable by reducing the amount of hours per week of labour. For this to not impact people's income, well... you just eliminate the capitalist leech that's sucking the real value that you produce. For productivity to not decrease you add unemployed people into the equation. And so everyone has a job now, earn the same or more than before, and work much less hours (so more free time to do hobbies, family time, etc).

>> No.9774768

>>9769935
I literally went to State U and I go to MIT for an engineering PhD.

By the way, MIT's on a 5.0 GPA scale and that'd be a C to D average.

>> No.9774841

>>9769687
that picture is nothing but bullshit

>> No.9774846

>>9774707
what?

>> No.9774945

>>9771660
I'm still undergrad but if you want to completely solve Maxwell's equations for non infinite planes you have to use maths from complex analysis. I dont think the other fields of EE use complex but I could be wrong

>> No.9775113

Hello guys!

What does a MechEngineer need more to get into fusion technology, fusion energy related research/projects? Do I need EE knowledge or Nuclear Engineering background?

>> No.9775115

fuck lads. I bombed my electromagnetics class. I know cus I fucked up on the final. No way I get a passing grade. reeeeeeeeeeeee.

/blog

>> No.9775153

>>9769668
>only exception is military
Well thank God I want to join the defense industry. Hell I was thinking about joining the Air Force after getting my ME.

>> No.9775164

>>9774704
Argentina has one of the most corrupt government on the planet. I will give you Uruguay, but know too little about Chile.

>> No.9775166

>>9775113
Hey anon, you sound like me when I was starting undergrad. It's best to crush your dreams right now rather than having your life ruined by an academic bait and switch:

The current state of the engineering job market, and the market for STEM in general, is really really bad. With a bachelor's in ME you will probably get a job using Microsoft Excel for a company that makes air conditioners. (If you're really lucky, you might get a job using Excel for a company that makes airplanes.) To get anywhere near fusion research, you will need a Bachelor's, Master's, PhD, and a postdoc. Even then you will be living on a shoestring salary and very desperate for grant money. "How did engineering get this way?" you may ask. Our wonderful politicians and business leaders found that they could make some extra money by offshoring manufacturing. As a consequence, most engineering jobs ended up leaving to be near the manufacturing as well. Now engineering is very, very competitive, and there are many times more engineers than there are engineering jobs. Even the most mundane work that an untrained high schooler could do takes 5+ years of experience to even be considered for the position.

But to answer your original question: study magnetohydrodynamics. It's the study of fluid dynamics coupled with electromagnetism.

>> No.9775179

>>9775166
To clarify, I live in Europe and I'm about to finish my MSc. I was thinking about attending a Nuclear Engineer training and thought about the possibility to get into fusion technology. I don't want to design a whole fusion powerplant, I just want to help development. If it doesn't work out, my dreams wont collapse.

>> No.9775185

>>9775179
If that's the case, yeah definitely read up on MHD. It's tricky because the interaction between between mass transport and its embedded electromagnetic field produces chaotic behavior that's difficult to simulate accurately. Also what did you work on for your MS?

>> No.9775189

>>9770203
LTSPICE and Matlab mostly. Just finished year 4 and at this point i live and breathe Matlab. Simulink is awesome
Absolute shame the only class in which we had a tiny amount of PCB design used the shitshow that is DesignSpark PCB because muh EE department funding

>> No.9775237

>>9775185
My thesis is related to nuclear industry, inspection of materials. I have basic knowledge about nuclear energy, but I find it fascinating and I want to learn more about it. And fusion technology is my main interest.

>> No.9775247

>>9768795
hello, i'm here to shill for plant jobs. yes, that's right. plants. what are plants? why, i'm glad you asked. plants are large facilities containing a variety of electromechanical systems, as well control systems and databases (i'm looking at you software engineers). why should you be interested in plant jobs? well, that's simple. today, plants are full of 63 year-old homer simpsons, and they need fresh blood. an engineer capable of troubleshooting machinery to get it back up again can easily make 50k for sitting on his ass.

>> No.9775350

>>9774945
Lol just use coloumbs law you dumb ass

>> No.9775475

Study renewable energy right now, which is basically just power engineering, without even some crazy re specific courses.

But many energy companies here and the automotive industry also takes a good amount of graduates.

Not too bad.

>> No.9775485

>>9769535
It's all the same shit at the end.

>> No.9775513

>but muh jobs

just work for the government lmao

>> No.9775591

>>9770155
Microwave circuits: Advanced design system

Antennas/passive microwave circuits: Ansys HFSS or CST

Quick prototyping/testbenches/Software defined radio: LabView

Everything else: Matlab

>> No.9776327

>>9775475
Power electronics???

>> No.9776341

>>9776327
It's a part of the curriculum but the focus is more about generation, transmission and distribution of electric power.

And stuff like load management, smart grids...

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>>9775247
hey, don't be peddling that blue collar shit around here. we're all going to be making power armor and robots that have sex with you, far too good to do menial things like running a factory or making water safe to drink.

>> No.9776705

>>9774704
I would concede, if Chile still had Pinochet.

>> No.9776711

>>9770494
Thank you Anon
>>9774723
Of course replies to my posts in disagreement did nothing but spew ad hominem rhetoric. That's all these platitude-spewing, impulse driven 90 IQ idiots understand. They can't deal with harsh truths that "ruin their mellow, maaaaaan". I write these posts not for their approval, but to persuade any lost young men that there is a way to success and happiness, and it's not the way public school and reddit and facebook told you. It's the path of toil and dutiful, laborious dedication. But you can achieve a comfortable lifestyle and give a middle class life to your kids no matter which echelon of society you originally came from. It doesn't have to be STEM, but the trades or starting your own small business is still strenuous and difficult.

>> No.9776765

>>9775164
>Argentina has one of the most corrupt government on the planet

still way better than living in usa

>> No.9776828

the only thing I'm getting from this general is that anything, but CS and maybe CompE is a fucking meme. I should've just done a double degree in Applied Math and CS, fml.

>> No.9776846

>>9776828
this general is basically "drop out of ME and EE to study CS, and be sure to move to latin america"

really makes you think

>> No.9776901

lads I've done calc 1-3, linear algebra, statics and dynamics
How much harder will the rest of civil engineering be?

>> No.9776963

>>9776901
you haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet. take numerical methods next semester.

>> No.9776996

>>9769070
Go into IC and be good at it.

>> No.9777012

Thoughts on Mechatronics?
would it be a nice base platform to get a decent paying job and go back to school?
I might go for robotics or Aerospace.

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>>9776846
>yfw CS fags make less than ME and EE fellas in Latin America

There's no way out.

>> No.9777020

How hard would it be to get a job at Boston Dyamics as an EE? These guys are hiring!

>> No.9777031

>>9776963
I've already done differential equations, we studied those in calc 2 and 3

>> No.9777098

Will getting a Data Science minor as an EE major make me more suitable for not getting cucked by those dirty CS majors on all those sweet paying jobs, right? ...right guys?

;_;

>> No.9777102

>>9777098
It’s a pretty hot buzzword right now it couldn’t hurt.

>> No.9777104

>>9777098
minors LITERALLY don't matter. get internships.

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Don't mind me, just taking home my monthly code monkey salary...

>> No.9777169

>>9777135
what type of coding do you do?

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>literally cannot find a mechanical engineering job listing that requires less than three years of experience

>> No.9777386

>>9769070
EE had the same number of seats as ME which was the second highest amount of seats after Civ when I was going through Uni, but nobody wanted to do it. Electricity is a caged animal.

>> No.9777400

>>9775166
>you will probably get a job using Microsoft Excel for a company that makes air conditioners
My 4th year project partner is doing exactly that.

>> No.9777501

>>9777135
Proud wagecuck.
About what I'd expect from CSfag

>> No.9777516

How's the job market in embedded HW?
It's close to embedded SW so I'm hoping it's possible to leech some jobs from CS

>> No.9777551

>>9777516
Embedded HW is booming and will only go further because it is more efficient. The application specific which makes it hard to realize the scope of its importance. The grey line between the two, such as graphics cards or cameras, also hides the value.
Soon routing will be on the physical layer as far as possible which offers some interesting career opportunities.

>> No.9777648

Is engineering dead in the USA? In Germany just the idea that one can't get a matching job with an engineering degree is plain grotesque

>> No.9777682

Is 5G a meme? Or can it do something that 4G can't?

>> No.9777735

>>9777682
Give you brain tumors more effectively.

>> No.9777755

>>9768780
What's the best place for online electrical engineering courses ?
Also, any good ones to recommend ? Something close to optical fibers preferrably. I'm mostly done with my degree (only thesis left) and I'm pretty bored sitting at home doing nothing most day.

>> No.9777756

>>9777682
muh internet of things integration

>> No.9777757

>>9777031
Diff Eq and Num Anal are not the same course. Num Anal is the mathematical keystone course for engineers because its where you learn most of your approximation tools. after Num Anal you will never analytically solve anything ever again.

>> No.9777759

>>9777135
shit nigga, what do you even do with all that?

>> No.9777762

>>9777135
could pay off all my debt in half the summer with that salary tfw

>> No.9777802

>>9777648
>Is engineering dead in the USA?

yes

>> No.9777808

>>9777648
I think it might just be one guy shilling.

>> No.9777864

>>9777808
yep. nobody should ever come here for major advice, there's always some extremely neurotic people pushing an agenda

>> No.9778040

got a call from mothafuckin JPL, I should be getting processed for an internship in June! don't give up hope bros

>> No.9778277

>>9777648

It depends what engineering you're talking about.

EE and ME are oversaturated so it's difficult to find a job.

>> No.9778367

>>9778040
Nice, dude. I'll be interning at Ames this summer.

>> No.9778795

Does graduating a year early hurt my grad school prospects? I had a mental boom near the beginning of winter semester and dropped two courses that are offered only once a year.

>> No.9778806

>>9778795
You mean graduating late? No, not at all. It’s a sign of maturity to slow down your academic pace in order to better comprehend all the material. Plus think about how worse your GPA would be if you tried to cram those two classes.

>> No.9778849

>>9776828
Seriously. Everyone is shitting all over their industries, job outlooks, salary, and general prospects when the BLS gives pretty decent/average outlooks for engineering majors. It's like this thread is trying to dissuade us from one path with no reasoning behind it or disingenuous "worst case scenarios" without offering an alternative.

>> No.9778851

>>9769070
really? CE and ME are the highest at my school. EE has like 12 students.

>> No.9778856

I don't get this thread at all. People say here that EE and ME are oversaturate, but when I go to >rebbit it seems both have good amount of demand and stuff. I don't know where you guys live, but in the east bay it seems that EE and ME are doing fine in terms of employment.

>> No.9778859

>>9778856
This thread is getting bombarded by some retarded discord group or something. Go and check the catalog. EE and ME bashing literally started like midway through last thread. Around the same time a million Latin American posters showed up. Makes u think

>> No.9778881

>>9778859
I'm one of those Latin Americans and I'm a shill for EE and constantly shit on CS fags on every thread I can find. I don't even know what you're trying to imply desu. Down here EE have plenty of jobs and good salary.

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>>9778856
its just a bunch of shitters complaining about how they can't get good.

>> No.9778893

if you browse /r9k/ all day you will think its literally impossible to get laid. same thing applies to /sci/ and jobs. remember that 4chan is mostly filled with failures

>> No.9778899

>>9778881
where do you live? Im graduating next year here in the states, but I don't rule out working in say, mexico, if the company pays my salary equivalent to what they pay in the states. Imagine living in mexico or argentina with 70k usd salary starting. Pretty fucking based tbqhwy.

>> No.9778907

>>9778899
CS guys who work remotely do that but they all go to thailand instead.

>> No.9778919

>>9778893
then why do they always pretend to be superior to everyone else?

>> No.9778921

does anyone know what the demand is for computer networks, or computer architecture?

>> No.9778932

>>9778919
because everyone wants to believe they're better than someone else. And edgy failures want that more than anyone else.

>> No.9778947

>>9778040
Bitchin'
How brown are you?

>> No.9779095

>>9778947
lel

>> No.9779142

>>9778882
Are you over 35 years old?

>> No.9779175

>>9778947
Guessing it has a vagina desu

>> No.9779238

>>9778919
coping mechanism

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Will employers look down on my job application if I submit it well after midnight?

>> No.9779393

>>9779265
probably, I worked in healthcare when at uni. My shifts varied and sometimes I'd arrive home late, when I graduated I'd apply for jobs when ever possible. It's just an unfortunate reality

>> No.9779588

>>9778881
based

>> No.9779706

>>9778893
no it's not, it's just that the majority of posting is done out of spite rather than out of the spirit of kindness

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>just came out of analogue electronics exam
>previous lecturers always set super tough papers
>got new chinese professor teaching the course, doesn't really give a fuck
>set a straightforward paper, easier than previous years
At least this makes up for my botched EM exam.

>> No.9779821

>>9778899
Heh I'm not telling you because companies here are kinda racist and would prefer a 100% of the time somce gringo dude over a native. If gringos come down here they'll take all our jobs (kinda what happens in the US already, but at the inverse).

>> No.9779848

>>9779761
Chinese profs are absolutely based
their classes are boring as shit but every one I had gave the fairest exams I ever got in university by a wide margin

>> No.9779893

This seems as good a thread as any to post this question in - and this way I don't have to start an entirely new one of my own!

Why/How does this device, if implemented on a scale comparable to that of a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_ratchet, fail?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y44_xMFsPQQ
I have a pretty good (at least I think) understanding of the mechanisms behind the failure of a Brownian Ratchet, but nothing is immediately jumping out at me as to how this one would fail.
Thanks in advance!

>> No.9779905

>>9779893
Same reasoning, it's just two ratchets instead of one.

>> No.9779906

>>9779848
you only have 1 section for your classes or what?

>> No.9779912

>>9779848
yep Had a chinese teacher named Wang this semester, he had a thick accent and terrible breath but he was thorough yet concise and all his tests and grading were reasonable. nobody else liked him but best professor in the uni so far

>> No.9779922

>>9779905
Yeah? I didn't see any springs in the 2->1 direction gear thing, though, so it seems like it ought to differ some.
Plus, this one can turn due to random heat fluctuations from either side, while rotating backwards due to a failure would require /both/ ratchets to fail, so it seems like it ought to be twice as easy to gain energy, while half as likely to fail.

>> No.9779930

Computer engineering? Y or N? I’m a finger typer

>> No.9779932

>>9779930
By finger typer do you mean "hunt and peck" typing?
If so, learn to type correctly. Don't let that one factor make your decision for you, but you're definitely better off, regardless of what you choose to do, if you learn to type correctly.

>> No.9779939

I have a question about the Z-domain: the literature says the unit step function is z/(z-1). However, when I try to derive this myself I get to the part where I want to say that sum k=0 to inf (z^-k) = z/(z-1). But this last relation only holds true for z>1, but z doesn't have to bigger than one. Sure the pole will be at 1, but z can be anything, right?

What am I missing?

>> No.9779983

AHHHHH I NEED THE JOBS BUT THERE ARE NO JOBSSSSSS

>> No.9780058

>>9779939
If what im gathering from your question is you have a system with input being a step function @ t=1, 1/(z-1) and the response of the system is z you get your transfer function of (1/(z-1)) * z. It should hold for all values z>1 and the response for z<1 don't matter due to the input to the system starting at t=1. Hope I didn't misinterpret the question there.

>> No.9780246

You understood correctly, but the input starts at 0 for a step function.

How can you see that z<1 doesn't matter for t>1?

>> No.9780249

>>9780246
was meant for
>>9780058

>> No.9780349

>Indeed.com
>158 new jobs for "software engineer"
>6 new jobs for "mechanical engineer"
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.9780351

>>9780349
nighty night mechcuck.

>> No.9780359

Architectural engineering student.

Rate me

>> No.9780361

>>9778882
Dumb boomer.

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>>9776846
PEAK shill activity.

>> No.9780365

>>9780362
We're graduates trying to warn you not to repeat our mistakes. Try looking for jobs to verify it yourself.

>> No.9780368

>>9776846
Usted.

>> No.9780371

>>9774704
Argie here.
It's okay if you earn around 25k-30k usd yearly (if you want to live in Buenos Aires, of couse), anything lower is doable but might be uncomfortable.

>> No.9780379

>>9772400
I'm working part-time as a backend developer while getting my EE major. It's so fucking trivial, it's like an insult. And I work on big projects so that's not the problem. I'd rather go into hardware.

>> No.9780385

>>9777012
Depends on your courseware to be honest, so if you have any uni in mind you'd be better to link it's curriculum here.
Personally I'd go with EE.

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>Excel
>Writing reports
>Contacting suppliers
>Maaayyybe some light CAD work
90% of engineering jobs could be done with a 2 year AA degree. Prove me wrong.
>protip: you can't

>> No.9780423

>>9769705
>We can't run a society if everyone is a dancer and musician and singer.
Good thing we're talking about STEM here then, huh?

>> No.9780424

>>9780246
the unit step function is 1/z
the unit step function with the step occurring at t=1 is 1/(z-1)

>> No.9780437

>>9780424
I think you're mistaken.
http://www.ele.uri.edu/Courses/ele541/tutorials/ztransforms/commonfunctions.html

>> No.9780441

Expecting worthwhile jobs with a mere bachelor degree. heh

>> No.9780444

So why is everyone here a CS or EE human trash?

Is that what the nerdy incels study? Why are here no civil engineering chads?

>> No.9780459

>>9780441
>missing the point
Yes, clearly we need PhDs and ten years of experience before we can be trusted to draw free body diagrams.

>> No.9780572

>>9780437
Yes I am mistaken, I for some reason was thinking of the Laplace transform of the unit step response. From >>9779939
it seems that the Region of Convergence is absolute value of z>1.

>> No.9780588

>>9780444
CivE are the toilet cleaners of engineering buddy.

>> No.9780634

Best PhD options for an EE?
Is it worth it to put the extra effort and get a Physics one?

>> No.9780719

>>9780634
>tfw in your third-world country having a PhD will only land you jobs as an academic

>> No.9780725

>>9778856
This. My father has been an EE for 25 years and says there is an over-saturation of un-employable graduates that know the theory, but can't handle the other aspects of being an engineer. The job involves a lot of business, management/leadership, financial planning, negotiating ect that a lot of them can't handle. Also, if you haven't already entered the field before you graduate, you're setting yourself up to fail. Spend a year or two doing 1 or 2 less subjects and find some part time CAD work and build contacts. If you have an engineering degree with literally any major and can't find a decent job, maybe its you, not the degree. I'm 3rd year CE and I am employed as a graduate for the company that I walked into 2 years ago and asked if they needed any help doing CAD, filing, ordering ect a couple of days a week.

>> No.9780754

>>9780423
Except the post I replied to literally said not to go into STEM if you don't "love it"

>> No.9780829

>>9780719
I'm pretty sure we are from the same part of the world, however you should take into account that most people tend to travel abroad for their PhD, and maybe they get a job wherever they do it.

>> No.9780841

I'm trying to decide between mechanical or electrical engineering and I just can't make up my mind. Some days I think I want to ME because I would probably enjoy the more physical and visual nature of the work but I also look at EE and think how awesome it would be to work on things like RF or something equally complex/cool. I've got time to figure out which direction since I'm going back to school part time for a second bachelors while working full time in IT right now.

>> No.9780879

>>9780829
Are you sure those aren't a minority? Most of my professors traveled aboard to get their PhDs, came back and now they teach and do research at academia. My professors that don't fall in that category are foreigners with a PhD that now teach and do research.

>> No.9780906

>>9779142
no

>> No.9780963

is taking a math class on complex variables worth it for EE majors?

>> No.9780968

>>9780841

Do ME if you live in the US.

There are way too many EE majors unemployed or underemployed because the industry is oversaturated.

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>>9770044
>4 and a half
The way things are going for me I'll have about 6-7 years of CC before I'm ready to transfer

i know that feel

>> No.9781198

>>9780906
Are you under 25 years old?

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r8

This is the software version, otherwise the skills section would have stuff like ANSYS and the manufacturing processes that I've worked with listed.

>> No.9781249

>>9781204
So much white space...
I did Design Build Fly this year
You should probably put what place you came in if it wasn't shit.

>> No.9781276

>>9780841

I switched from EE to ME. ME is a lot more interesting.

>> No.9781283

>>9781249
DBF got sabotaged by roasties so we didn't even travel to the competition and I put my focus on other projects. Does that look like the resume of someone who can't find work after graduating though? Because it is.

>> No.9781289

>>9781283
Write your resume using Overleaf or something and make it look sexy. Also, get a good head shot to attach to your resume. It helps.

>> No.9781290

>>9781283
Where are you looking for work?
Be specific

>> No.9781292

>>9781290
Seattle area. The industry is utterly fucked here for new graduates but nobody in this thread believes me.

>> No.9781308

Is Mechatronic Engineering a meme?
I can't really see how a 50/50 between software and mechanical is a good idea. Should I just switch to Mechanical if I care about employment more than specialization?

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>>9781204
Hey Chris. You probably shouldn't reveal your power level on 4chan. Anyway, your resume looks ok overall but I have some thoughts:

why are you listing your github and talking about gay web dev shit? do you want to be a codemonkey?
That pipeline workshop is a complete meme and you definitely should not be listing it considering your didn't even present there, you just attended
are you putting two spaces after periods? i hate that
don't list the references, that's amateur shit. if anything, you just put "available upon request"
be consistent in the way you describe your work, gerunds vs sentences (i recommend a bullet-ed format)
your github page is kinda lame dude. you're not supposed to use it like a resume. there is shit on there that should be on your resume like the specifics of what you did on the Mars and DBF projects. And nobody gives a shit about your favorite video game or your hiking photos.
Overall, the problem I see here is that you have a bunch of class projects and extra-curricular projects but no actual experience from internships or doing research (actually i see you have one research exp but its very vague, what professor/lab did you work in? you could have been doing some bullshit on your own from the looks of it). Since you graduated without having anything set up its going to look bad wherever you apply and will get worse as time goes by. I still think you seem very employable but probably not for the best jobs. My recommendation is to go to grad school and start fresh. Use your connections with professors to set something up so you do research for them during grad school and do internships with their govt/industry contacts.
how did roasties sabotage DBF?

>> No.9781411

>>9781394
I only posted my codemonkey resume because I had already blacked that one from last time I posted it. Plus the salary is literally twice as high as ME work around here.

Still cleaning up my github. I have an assload of unpublished things to put there. One of my repos has been pretty popular though, and it's actually the new state of the art for what it does. I'm slowly but surely making a less janky implementation before publishing.

My research advisor was one of my references, but would it still make sense to incorporate that twice?

Basically what happened was I got this horrible autoimmine disease towards the end of undergrad that left me with partial vision loss and absolutely fucked everything up. I was going to go straight to graduate school, but everything got put on hold while I was sick, so here I am. Being sick did also preclude internships, though I did do some industry stuff with Boeing that they were pretty impressed with even though I'm not allowed to talk about it, and I have a lot of hands on experience from extracurriculars. So in light of all that, what might be the best way proceed short of dumping more time into graduate school?

>how did roasties sabotage DBF?
They appointed themselves as leaders of the project and literally shouted down anyone who disagreed with them, then they lost interest half way through so we were left without a functioning airplane. I made it a really nice tail though.

>> No.9781434

>>9780588
With all the Indians having a CS degree. I'm aware that they wouldn't know how to clean a toilet.

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>>9781292
Yep. Texas here, graduated b.s.m.e. with a decent academic record. All entry level jobs require 5 years of experience and stuff like underwater welding skills. Fuck this. I'm going to code camps.

>> No.9782371

I graduated 3 years ago with my EE degree and I'm still underemployed as an electrical assembler.

I'm thinking about going back to school for my masters.

>> No.9782416

Is power systems a decent path to take for EE?

>> No.9782522

>>9782416

Not at all. The industry is oversaturated.