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Should female students be given extra time on exams and their lowest mark dropped at the end of each semester in order to balance out their disadvantage (traditional condition of having a lack of privilege/being oppressed by the male students) and increase the number of women in STEM? Current exam times of 3 hours are not enough because women suffer from imposter syndrome and exam anxiety due to sexism. It is a proven fact that many women are driven out by first year "weeder" courses designed to bully representatives of minorities and underprivileged groups into dropping out of STEM. In order to put an end to this, we need to make accomodations for women to make them feel more welcome.

>> No.9767771

They should be asked if they want this but those who accept will secretly get the opposite.

>> No.9767777
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I believe female students and underprivileged minorities should be allowed to use smartphones on exams to balance out sexism, while stricter anti-cheating policies should be enforced to prevent Asian males from using their phones on exams.

>> No.9767778

Replace their seats with other students who aren't graduating yet

>> No.9767906

>>9767769
No.

>> No.9767959

Make no mistake, they have their sights set on STEM and things are going to get progressively more shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdT-bBVoe0

>> No.9767963

>>9767769
They should get extra time on their exams in order to make obviously transparent bait threads on /sci/

>> No.9767991

>>9767959
>STEM
don't you know it's STEAM now, bigot?

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>>9767769

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>>9767769
wut? no woman interested in stem would want this

>> No.9768006

timed exams are an affront to the concept of education

>> No.9768017

nice bait

>> No.9768534

>>9767991
STEM is a tier of discipline. STEAM is an appropriation of the term by schools to describe a curriculum. Educators have never tried to assert that art is the same difficulty if discipline - it's just nicking a fucking term to try to describe the important bases they attempt to cover with their core curriculum.

If you've ever taken a language, literature, history, or music course at ANY point in your education, you've participated in the A in STEAM.

STEMfags need to get over the fact that their term got appropriated. It's not the literal insertion of artfaggotory into their discipline.

>> No.9768537

>>9767769
Anon but this is real
https://www.bustle.com/p/oxford-is-giving-students-extra-time-for-exams-but-female-students-especially-7976512

>> No.9768573

>>9767769
Scientifically speaking, female students should only be allowed to do their exams naked so that man perform worse, making the groups more equal.
Prove me wrong fags

>> No.9768624

>>9768017
actually, I think this post is on a higher level; it's so obviously bait that those who call it out are, in fact, the ones being baited.

>> No.9768631

>women and men are equal except women need more time to complete tasks, but they are still equal remember

>> No.9768644

>>9768631
It's because of the patriarchy. White men oppress them so much that the only way to be fair is to knock everyone back to the lowest common denominator.

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>>9768644
>white men oppress everyone on earth
>those same "oppressed" flock to white men ruled and created nations

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>>9767777
IF THE DIGITS REPEAT

YOU MUST COMPLETE

>> No.9768708

>>9768658
>Whites control most of the land and money in a state through a long history of imperialism.
>the conquered peoples have no choice but to work for these whites in order to survive.

>imagine being so stupid you can't understand this.

>> No.9768719

Yes, that all sounds reasonable.

>> No.9768726

>>9768708
>non-white nations ruled by non-whites
>blame whites still
You seem a tad triggered with the insult there lad. It's ok, you are welcomed to live among the civilized in white nations as long as you behave yourself. :)

>> No.9768736

>>9768708
>the conquered peoples

Giving a fuck for lesser beings why?

>> No.9768744

>>9768726
>non-white nations ruled by non-whites
uh what?

Now I can't tell if you're trolling or just horrifically insecure that you have non-whites living in the same countries on you.

P.S. If you don't like non-whites in your country, blame your ancestors for bringing them ;^)

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>>9768736
>implying that conquering a people makes those people lesser

You couldn't be more wrong.

Suppose you had a tribe of whites in Africa with no access to modern technology. They'd get conquered, the men and children killed, the women raped; do you then agree that the whites are lesser beings? After all, it follows from your assertion.

You are wrong. You know you are wrong. You are afraid to admit that your beliefs are not rooted in rationale but rooted in your own prejudice. Why? Because it benefits you to ignore the truth.

Kill yourself.

>> No.9768844

>>9768744
>being perplexed that non-white nations are ruled by non-whites
You think whites still rule 3rd world shitholes?

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>>9768726
The international bourgeoisie is not nonwhite, anon.

>> No.9768861

>>9768844
You mean to say that after decimating countries of their resources, leaving them with no infrastructure, these countries become "third-world"? Color me surprised.

>> No.9768863

>>9768748
>Suppose you had a tribe of whites in Africa with no access to modern technology.
So we agree that the result of living and evolving in Africa is that you became biologically uncreative to produce any means of technology besides maybe a stick.
The reasons why Europeans and , also Asians, are smarter than peoples from say Africa is all due to natural selection. African environments give no incentive to produce intelligent human beings because there is no natural pressure of brutal winters. All year round Africans had access to food and shelter while in Europe, especially during the last ice age, the humans there had to deal with freezing temperatures and no food. This caused only the intelligent who became creative in building and engineering ways to ration food and build shelters capable of withstanding the cold to survive and this spread their genes. Africans have no abstract thinking that whites have. Hell, Africans have no concept of time, they even have a saying called "African time".

>> No.9768865

>>9768861
>no resources
Africa is the most resource rich continent on the planet yet still shit.

>> No.9768867

>>9768861
Hmm yes, so natural resources and infrastructure are what create wealth? Could you explain in economic terms why Japan has historically and currently done so well, despite having no natural resources whatsoever?

>> No.9768879

>>9768867
because of this>>9768863
Africans have all the resources in the world but lack the humans to utilize it because they are less intelligent than peoples from Northern climates who evolved in harsher conditions that favored intelligent beings.

>> No.9768882

>>9767769
No because females in STEM should be much more intelligent than the average human male.

>> No.9768883

>>9768867
I did not imply that, you brainlet.

Japan also wasn't gang-raped incessantly by the world powers during the neo-colonialism of the early 1900s like Africa was.

Fucking weaboos I swear.

>> No.9768885

>>9768883
>gangraped
African countries still have more resources right now than most european countries.

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>>9768861

>> No.9768899
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>>9768890
You could literally see that northern climate is inductive of human intelligence.

>> No.9768928

>>9768899
Israel is not in a Northern climate, yet jews have a higher IQ than whites. Japan and China also are not in a Northern climate. Also, correlation doesn't equal causation and in this case, your hypothesis is even less scientific because you started off with the asdumption that whites are superior to other races and went on to "prove" this by correlating Europe's climate with intelligence. Furthermore, classical Greeks did not live in a Northern climate, nor did Arabs. These two cultures laid the foundations for contemporary mathematics and philosophy. Then again, it's probably pointless to try to convince you of the fault in your reasoning as you seem to be (like most racists) operating under the assumption that black Africans never had a civilization of their own and always lived in mud huts and ate dirt cookies, when in fact numerous African kingdoms had art, architecture, metallurgy, and agriculture.

>> No.9768932

>>9767769
women don't burn out in academia. they burn out in industry.

>> No.9768933

>>9768883
yeah, never mind the two atom bombs and the dethroning of their god-emperor and being made into a subjegated vassal state.

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>>9767769

>> No.9768938

>>9768928
>Israel is not in a Northern climate, yet jews have a higher IQ than whites.
The smart Israelis (Askhenazi) descend from Europe.
>Japan and China also are not in a Northern climate.
They both have four seasons, with moderate heat and extreme cold.

You are an idiot.

>Then again, it's probably pointless to try to convince you of the fault in your reasoning as you seem to be (like most racists) operating under the assumption that black Africans never had a civilization of their own and always lived in mud huts and ate dirt cookies, when in fact numerous African kingdoms had art, architecture, metallurgy, and agriculture.
Which African Kingdoms do you speak of? Keep in mind that ancient Egypt was not ruled by sub-saharan Africans.

>> No.9768954

>>9768938
Riddle me this: if a cold climate makes you smarter, shouldn't Inuits be wizzing around in flying saucers by now?

>> No.9768972

>>9768954
Their climate is both cold and nefariously unforgiving - you can´t expect anyone to thrive in an area without arable land and with very little wild game.

Better luck next time, idiot.

>> No.9768983

>>9768954

It's a complex dynamic. Can't be onerously cold so as to make living nearly impossible.

Also, time plays a role. The Inuits haven't been in their climate as long as the Indo-Europeans have been in theirs.

The claim that merely existing in a cold climate means you are smarter than those in a warmer climate may occasionally be false, but it would also be false to say that Human Group X who lived and evolved in a cold, seasonal world for 50,000 years is going to emerge the exact same as Human Group Y who lived in a tropical zone. It's like two different worlds.

>> No.9768988

>>9768983

You see the same thing with groups like the Saami and other cold-zone nomads who never developed beyond subsistence.

There seems to be a goldilocks zone in Central Europe, where it was cold enough to encourage foresight and investment, while being warm enough to support population expansion and movement.

>> No.9769059

>>9768631
>make /pol/-shit bait thread
>respond with /pol/-retardation as if it was an actual legitimate question
Sasuga /pol/

>> No.9769075

>>9768899
Yeah, all those migrants who left Europe and went to Australia or South America became stupid due to a few hundred years of evolution in warm climate

>> No.9769084

>>9769075

A few hundred years is nothing, and the ancient selective pressures that defined who we became as hunter gatherers and tribesmen no longer existed

For one, they had supply lines stretching across the globe delivering goods in weeks. Completely unprecedented.

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>>9768854
>not nonwhite
Sort of like being "undead"?

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>>9768861
>decimating countries of their resources, leaving them with no infrastructure
Two things that never happened.

>> No.9769113

>>9768865
Yet you still can't grow a potato

There's a bit to be said about natural superiority but if you have bad nutrition you get literally retarded. That's what has happened in India as well. They're so fucking dumb they don't trust toilets because muh witches, then when they poo in the street the poo everywhere makes them even dumber

But yeah yeah white people are teh best always and forever because you got nothin else to be proud of

>> No.9769442

>>9769113
>But yeah yeah white people are teh best always and forever because you got nothin else to be proud of

Did you even read this before posting? Please say you did and found nothing wrong. It'll be much funnier that way.

>> No.9770376

>>9768928
IQ does not determine intelligence.

>> No.9770689

spending so much time replying to this master baiter instead of doing actual science

something's amiss

>> No.9770698

>>9769096
What's the source? I've seen screenshots of this smug chink roasting niggers before.

>> No.9770718

>>9770698
Empire of Dust

>> No.9770760

>>9768879
Fuck. This makes a lot of sense. Is this common understanding?

>> No.9770780

>>9768879
>>9768863
The smart people in Europe were selected for, but those same people exist in African populations. As the same selective pressure doesn't exist in Africa l, the same amount of smart people will still exist in the population. Why haven't they helped develop Africa?

>> No.9770792

>>9768928
>ashkenazi jews aren't slavic/german blood mixed with kazhar

>> No.9770805

>Women dominate every field in university but STEM

This is sexism against women and must be fixed.

>> No.9770813

>>9768861
I've always loved how people simultaniously use the argument that white/asian people only got ahead because they were born on top of a bunch of resources, and then they used their headstart to steal all the resources the blacks were sitting on top of.

>> No.9770836

>>9770780
> Why haven't they helped develop Africa?
They´ve probably realized that Africa is beyond saving. Why work to improve your home country when the only light at the end of the tunnel is located in foreign lands?

>> No.9770841

>>9768861
>You mean to say that after decimating countries of their resources
Africa is still far more rich in minerals than any other part of the world.
>leaving them with no infrastructure
Africans had no modern infrastructure (roads, railroads) before the advent of colonialism. After the white man left, Africans let the infrastructure degrade by their own volition - nobody forced them to completely neglect the result of a century of technological advancement spearheaded by whites.

>> No.9770843

>>9770836
>Leftists

"Stop stealing Africas resources"

>Also leftists

"We need to import every smart African leaving only the stupid ones behind, it would be morally wrong not too"

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>>9768861
>implying there was infrastructure in the first place.

>> No.9771950

>>9767769
You guys have it all wrong. We shouldn't be enabling cheating. We should be equalizing the odds in more positive ways.

I suggest we lock asian and white students in spiked cages while they take exams. They would have to be nude for maximum effectiveness. That way they can feel the same kind of pressure that women and minorities feels. The cage is a metaphor for the system working against them. Also, you may have to electrify it. Just like discovering racism and sexism is shocking, the cage itself would physically shock them every 5 minutes or so.

>> No.9771959

Anyone with a disability is mandated to receive extra time and other special considerations when testing. This includes any sort of mental illness, anxiety, etc. So it’s already this way.

>> No.9771967

>>9767769
The problem with doing this is that as soon as it is done prospective employers will know that a woman with the same score as a male competitor could very well have achieved that score using the conferred advantages even if that female did not take advantage of them.

>> No.9771970

>>9771942
Is there a source confirming that poorly vaccinated children are the cause of outbreaks?

>> No.9771971

>>9771942
>what are memory cells

>> No.9772020

>>9767777
Waste of quads
I cant wait to see what 9777777 will be
Maybe another icesun thread?

>> No.9772065

>>9767991
Fuck STEM. STEM is dead now. The only shit that matters is MORSE.

>> No.9772330

>>9771942
People argue vaccines worked because the incidence of multiple diseases sharply dropped at around precisely the same time vaccines were introduced, and outbreaks correlate with low vaccination rates.

>> No.9772480

>>9767769

>guaranteed replies

>> No.9772640

>>9768863
>African environments give no incentive to produce intelligent human beings because there is no natural pressure of brutal winters

Shanghai winters are particularly bad. Same with Guangzhou.

>> No.9772876

>>9772640
pretty much this.

evo psych is all made up rabble babble until someone with the knowledge of a 6 year old deconstructs their entire argument.

>> No.9772896

>>9768534
But language, literature and history arne't art.

>> No.9772903

>>9771950
I don't know about you anons, but I'd be down for taking my tests with naked asian boys in shock cages.
Although you might put dog collars on them too, just to be safe

>> No.9773836

>>9772903
nah that's too easy, we need naked white boys with shock collars. Looks much better too ; ^ )

the Asians have to take the test with chopsticks instead of pencils

>> No.9773895

Not my experience. Found wiminz incredably capable. In 9 hour exams, weeding out subjects.

If I was a wimin I would find that insulting.

>> No.9775589

>>9768972
You aren't a climatologist or one who studies the natural flora and animals of a particular region, and you apparently like to use the word "idiot" quite liberally to describe those who make you feel uncomfortable.

Our understanding of human intelligence and neurology is still in its early stages, and our method of assessing intelligence is still crude (IQ tests). I wouldn't attribute the harsh climates to a higher intelligence, but it certainly is an interesting observation. Don't forget that animals also pose threats to the survival of humans, along with disease.

Idiot.

>> No.9775600

>>9767769
>female students
>STEM

>> No.9775625

>>9768863
>Western Europe and Asia have harsh cold winters
>Being this retarded

>> No.9775643

>>9767769
Return from whence you came, you filthy communist heathen. Civilisation ought not to be held back to suit the lowest common denominator who feel upset at being too stupid to participate in a meritocracy. Get good, or get out.

>> No.9775671

>>9767769
They aren't disadvantaged, stop lying you white-knight faggot.

>> No.9775675

>>9767769
This is a meritocracy, god damn it. You either have what it takes to do this stuff, or you don't. In fact, it's probably not even the case that men are better suited for STEM; the disparity in STEM between men and women is most attributed to the fact that women just don't choose to go into that field as much as men do.

>> No.9775678

>>9767769
Females on average actually get higher grades so really it's the stupid boys who need coddling.

>> No.9775760

>>9767769
Why are those chickens black

>> No.9776375

>>9768861
So they were taking a tenth of their resources?

>> No.9776571

>>9768861
Explain how South Korea went from a history of being subjugated and shithold tier to one of the most successful countries in the world. Even North Korea is more prosperous than most African countries.

>> No.9776575

>>9768006
Being able to work through problems at a quick pace is certainly a good measurement of how well you comprehend the material.

>> No.9776962

>>9767769
You make some claims and post no proofs, also nobody should be given extra time. Everyone should be given as much time as they require to complete the test, time limits only encourage rushing and sloppiness, which reduces performance. Time taken should just be noted along with the grade for quality of work done, those who are competitive and driven will try for lower times anyways while those who are slower and less competitive will feel no need to hurry and produce lower scores as a result.

>> No.9776974

>>9775760
They're BBCs.

>> No.9776988

>>9776571
America invested instead of bombing.

>> No.9776993

>>9776988
Yes, now we just have to wait for the foreign aid to africa to kick in. Any day now....

>> No.9778204

>Women are strong, smart, and just as capable as men.
>No, they're actually better. The end of men. The future is female... so empowered.
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.
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>We need to lower standards and introduce special measures to help women succeed.

Always the same shit.

>> No.9779130

>>9772020
>Maybe another icesun thread?
i miss those threads
guess you don't know what you got till its gone