Is there a way to reverse this?

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Anonymous Sun May 20 07:22:21 2018 No.9754530 [Reply] [Original]

Is there a way to reverse this?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 07:23:48 2018 No.9754531 >>9754530 Yeah, stop emitting greenhouse gases and sequester some of what is already there.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 07:24:16 2018 No.9754532 >>9754530 its not real

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 07:28:41 2018 No.9754537 >>9754530 No, fuck arctic.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 07:39:33 2018 No.9754562 >>9754530 nuclear winter

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 07:41:48 2018 No.9754566 >>9754562 top kek

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 07:44:36 2018 No.9754571 >>9754530 some kind of component that reacts with the water and make a high density or semi-solid fluid

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 08:02:08 2018 No.9754598 >>9754530 Why contain it? It's cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 08:31:02 2018 No.9754635 Yeah, use a lot and I mean a lot of iron.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 08:49:26 2018 No.9754662 >>9754532 >>9754537 denialists GTFO

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 08:55:09 2018 No.9754673 >>9754598 explain why The sea level would raise, isn't that bad? A pretty fat portion of the human population lives at sea level

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 09:20:11 2018 No.9754713 File: 98 KB, 1024x1280, Dchc9GJVQAAXcon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9754530 Yes, but the economic damage would be worse than just letting it happen.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 09:23:13 2018 No.9754719 Cloud of dust at Sun-Earth L1.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 09:36:19 2018 No.9754744 >>9754530 Iron seeding is a possibility, we just have to wait for body augmentation to become reality first.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 09:49:57 2018 No.9754773 >>9754673 there are too many people, some of them should die. not me of course

Anonymous Sun May 20 10:09:21 2018 No.9754806

>>9754773
the least cynical way to depopulate the planet is by promoting the anti-birth methods (i.e. giving contraceptives for free for everyone and legalizing abortion worldwide) and establishing laws that punish people who has more than two children
but people are way too dumb to even understand that preventing the development a fetus != killing a human being, so whatever, the world is going to get more and more populated just because morons think that more babies won't have a negative socioeconomical repercussion in the future

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 10:09:56 2018 No.9754807 >>9754530 kill drumpf xD

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 10:35:46 2018 No.9754861 >>9754530 Just wait for Yellowstone to blow. It'll lower the average world temperature by 5 °C. Things will balance out.

Anonymous Sun May 20 10:35:58 2018 No.9754863

>>9754806
I think we're just using space on earth poorly. Vertical housing and gardening can be a huge help and we can take advantage of massive areas of land not being used (East Colorado and West Kansas have nothing but grass). Still, that doesn't address the melting of the polar ice caps.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 17:10:33 2018 No.9755659 >>9754530 I am scared, Anon! I bet I can I help saving earth by donating all my money to some filthy rich jews? The TV told me so.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 17:22:30 2018 No.9755674 >>9754530 Time travel

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 17:24:26 2018 No.9755677 >>9754673 Note: floating sea ice does not raise sea levels when it melts Source: your fucking glass of iced tea

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 17:29:23 2018 No.9755685 >>9755677 Not him, but is that because it's already displacing its mass worth of water when it's a solid? So melting makes no difference?

Anonymous Sun May 20 17:37:57 2018 No.9755698

>>9755685
You are correct. So far most of the ice melting has been floating sea ice, so little impact on sea levels as of yet. There is plenty of ice over land however, that will significantly raise sea levels when it melts.

But if you look at the OP pic, no significant patches of new land appeared when the ice melted, which means it was all mostly sea ice.

Anonymous Sun May 20 17:39:52 2018 No.9755703
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>>9754530
does anyone here have any theories as to why ice ages come about? i think the end game of global warming is just going to be an ice age from the spiked co2 levels
if you look at ice age starts and co2 the peak of co2 is where the ice age starts then drops rapidly.
please respond

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 17:44:32 2018 No.9755708 >>9755703 Milankovitch cycles are probably the main cause.

Anonymous Sun May 20 17:47:35 2018 No.9755709

>>9755708
it's one of the reasons listed on the wiki but it's not definitive
i personally don't think you can throw the planet's cycle out of whack that much and historically co2 has dissapeared after an ice age started
just a theory i thought up so i'd like it to be discussed and picked apart to learn more

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 17:50:57 2018 No.9755716 >>9754530 THERE IS INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

Anonymous Sun May 20 17:58:00 2018 No.9755731

>>9755708
>>9755709
https://www.cosis.net/abstracts/EAE03/00721/EAE03-J-00721.pdf
this guy says the dates of milankovitch do not match ice age dates, the dates associated with ice ages match the minima of milankovitch eccentricities, and another date issue with the theory

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 18:15:24 2018 No.9755760 File: 512 KB, 727x532, Screen Shot 2018-05-18 at 11.24.59 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9754530 By voting democrat the next election.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 18:28:06 2018 No.9755776 >>9754530 desu why would you want to reverse it?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 18:29:48 2018 No.9755784 >>9755760 This. Voting Republican is voting extinction.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 18:42:18 2018 No.9755815 >>9754530 Blow up China

Anonymous Sun May 20 18:46:46 2018 No.9755827
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>>9754530

>mankind finally honors the Franklin Expedition's sacrifice by taking revenge and decimating the sinister arctic hellscape
>21st Century soẏboys think this is a bad thing

Mother Nature is our bitch, now. Lesser men need not block the way of the chads gang-banging her into submission.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 20 18:47:20 2018 No.9755829 Don't worry in the time of dinosaurs there are any ice in north pole and the earth is fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 05:03:15 2018 No.9756714 >>9755677 >only floating sea ice melts down Huh, big if true

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 05:14:51 2018 No.9756726 >>9754806 The earth isn't even overpopulated. Simply continuing to industrialize countries will lower birth rate. One use items on the other hand need to be stopped.

Anonymous Mon May 21 05:17:10 2018 No.9756729

>>9755784
Meanwhile, you can pat yourselves on the back with your crippled economy and a lower standard of living for the poor and middle classes while China fires up some of it's thousands of mothballed coal plants so it can continue to flood the world with cheap disposable goods. India will be 2 steps behind.
Then we have the inevitable industrialization of Africa (thanks China). Then we have exploding populations of 70-90 IQ peoples flooding into Europe and having 10 kids each because "we need immigrants to pay for boomer retirements" in a never ending ponzi scheme of Human greed.

We are not going to learn until we trash the planet to the point that populations massively decline

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 05:19:41 2018 No.9756734 >>9754806 >establishing laws that punish people who has more than two children >somehow less cynical than letting nature take its course

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 05:31:42 2018 No.9756752 >>9754530 only way is if we can vent massive amounts of thermal radiation to space or reduce incoming sunlight or increase surface albedo but really we should focus on protecting our agriculture since it's all going to get fucked

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 05:33:45 2018 No.9756759 >>9754806 Ironically, the best way to curb overpopulation is to reduce child mortality worldwide, and reduce the impact of disease. When people no longer expect most of their offspring to die, they tend to stick to two instead of ten.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 05:42:18 2018 No.9756766 This is what happened the last time the Earth warmed, pretty cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldLBoErAhz4

Anonymous Mon May 21 05:58:23 2018 No.9756791

>>9756714
The vast majority of the ice in OP's pic is sea ice. Never in the post you replied to does it state or imply only sea ice melts. It only (correctly) states that only ice that sits on land contributes to raising sea level, also already floating in water will not change sea levels when it melts.

Thermal expansion has contributed more to rising sea levels than melting ice has so far. It isn't that there is more water, just that water is getting more THICC.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 07:05:07 2018 No.9756873 >>9754806 Overpopulation isn't a problem. The entire population can fit inside Texas.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 07:40:38 2018 No.9756908 >>9754530 it would take a very big fridge

Anonymous Mon May 21 22:32:09 2018 No.9758431
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>>9754530
the good news is when the global warming really kicks in and people start starving all over the planet the last refuge for humanity will become habitable for just long enough to build rockets and gtfo this doomed world.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 23:03:19 2018 No.9758496 >>9754530 idk but why not just move everyone from the coast to canada and siberia now?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 23:05:52 2018 No.9758505 >>9758431 i really wish that pos didnt float to the bottom of the earth would have made a cool atlantis

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 23:06:50 2018 No.9758507 >>9756873 space isnt the problem tard

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 23:19:49 2018 No.9758537 >>9754531 tell that to china

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 23:22:03 2018 No.9758546 >>9754530 Too bad those pics are fake

>>	Anonymous Mon May 21 23:23:42 2018 No.9758552 >>9754806 i agree, us fellow white people really need to stop having kids before the whole world goes to sheol

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 02:44:20 2018 No.9758760 >>9754530 We need to put a lot of AC units on the poles

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 02:49:42 2018 No.9758764 >>9754530 Notice how none of the surrounding land has submerged under water? melting icecaps is a meme. Just like how a glass of ice water doesn't overflow when the ice melts the Earth's water levels won't rise either.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 03:03:15 2018 No.9758773 >>9754562 Futurama

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 03:25:21 2018 No.9758783 >>9754530 That is fake as fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 03:34:01 2018 No.9758788 >>9754806 First world countries aren't overpopulated.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 03:40:54 2018 No.9758793 >>9758764 but theres a lot of ice on land in greenland and the south pole. when this ice melts, it raises the sea level.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 03:46:22 2018 No.9758801 >>9758507 What is the problem then? The fact that we are continuously converting arable land into desert by ignoring manmade climate change?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 03:50:17 2018 No.9758803 >>9758764 You're an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 05:28:28 2018 No.9758879 >>9758537 China has only minor contribution to Climate Change. Shifting the blame solves nothing.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 06:16:41 2018 No.9758928 File: 1.83 MB, 3902x4106, 20180514000000_MODISCOM-T_0010031209.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] May 2018.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 06:17:46 2018 No.9758931 just put some coolers there

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 06:26:08 2018 No.9758941 >>9758928 Wow, that's a completely different time of year.

Anonymous Tue May 22 07:58:31 2018 No.9759030

>>9758801
>>9758801
The problem is that natural resources aren't unlimited, if we want to have unlimited population then we must only use 100% renewable energy
Also we should promote veganism as a dietary choice in order to optimize food resources (with the same food that you feed a cow every year to kill it and feed a few people, you could feed shitloads of people)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 08:03:22 2018 No.9759035 >>9758788 I wasn't talking about depopulating first world countries tho, I forgot to let that clear Particularly african countries need to get depopulated, but there's little to not chances of getting people there to use contraceptives so Fuck

Anonymous Tue May 22 08:32:42 2018 No.9759065

>>9759030
Don’t forget killing the people that ate the cow because charred rotting flesh causes cancer and heart disease. The medical costs of these diseases are extreme and probably worth mentioning in any discussion about how bad animal agriculture is.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 13:55:39 2018 No.9759557 >>9758537 Someone has, they are booming with green energy now. Price of solar panels has dropped substantially.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 18:09:43 2018 No.9760178 >>9754530 >>9754531 Humans can't control the climate.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 18:10:44 2018 No.9760180 >>9754662 skeptics.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 18:11:45 2018 No.9760184 >>9754673 It will only harm the shit skins mostly.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 18:12:48 2018 No.9760185 >>9755760 >>9755784 Yeah lets vote for global warming alarmists who want to ban cars and meat. No thanks, democrats are the biggest threat to the world.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 18:24:47 2018 No.9760209 Vote green.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 18:25:44 2018 No.9760211 >>9755677 There's still a shitton of ice melting on greenland, antarctica and on basically every single mountain everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 18:48:57 2018 No.9760244 >>9760185 > alarmists who want to ban cars and meat. Who actually wants to do this?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 19:01:12 2018 No.9760270 >>9760244 The democrats. California is actually trying to ban cars. https://www.dailywire.com/news/21701/california-wants-ban-all-gas-cars-2040-paul-bois

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 19:05:31 2018 No.9760280 >>9760270 > California They're the worst sort of third world shithole, I wouldn't even count them as human beings anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 19:11:44 2018 No.9760291 >>9754530 As you can see half of Europe is under water... . Oh wait it is not.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 19:47:38 2018 No.9760362 >>9755677 What about Antarctica? All that ice is sitting on a continent, not floating.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 19:59:07 2018 No.9760383 >>9754530 kill all humans

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 20:21:54 2018 No.9760427 how come all that ice melted but none of the land got covered in water at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 20:43:55 2018 No.9760482 >>9760362 Non-floating ice obviously does. Antarctica and even Greenland are obviously excluded from OP's pic.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 20:44:06 2018 No.9760483 >>9760427 Why would it? Sea ice melting does not increase the water level, only land ice melting does.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 22 22:27:43 2018 No.9760666 >>9760178 Humans could literally blast the atmosphere away if we got a little more bomb happy.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 02:09:00 2018 No.9761091 Climate change is as ridiculous as Y2K and 2012 at this point. No one can say what current climate would be like had man not changed it. No one can say when the consequences of this change will actually occur or agree on what they even are.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 02:13:16 2018 No.9761103 itt: consumers rationalize

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 02:18:50 2018 No.9761117 >>9758431 You know any exposed land in antarctica will be pretty much sterile right? No top soil, no soil microbes and a shit ton of salt from evaporating seawater

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 02:28:48 2018 No.9761143 >>9760211 Yes because it's close to summer..

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 02:42:55 2018 No.9761169 File: 3.72 MB, 6141x3425, geoengineeri.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yes

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 02:47:02 2018 No.9761179 File: 587 KB, 670x447, consumer3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9761169 lol. theres no undoing the damage to your brain though

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 02:48:34 2018 No.9761180 File: 364 KB, 1074x748, consumer6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9761169 i mean you can take pills or undergoe procedures to address the symptoms of course, but your condition is incurable

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 02:57:41 2018 No.9761208 >>9761179 >>9761180 Look I am not saying its a good idea, but it is what will happen, because its too late for other solutions

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 03:16:17 2018 No.9761240 >>9754530 kill all the shitskins doing all the polluting and planting 100 trees to replace them is the literal solution.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 03:32:14 2018 No.9761264 File: 59 KB, 276x354, The_nazi_care_bear_by_iDaddy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9754530 Hollow Earth shall soon be ours

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 03:41:16 2018 No.9761276 >>9760270 >daily-wire (((fake))) news ((((AKA SCHAPRIO)))

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 06:24:06 2018 No.9761487 >>9754673 its good because africans will have more water

Anonymous Wed May 23 09:21:43 2018 No.9761713

>>9761169
DESERTIFICATION IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
was even one of the center bullet points of many alarmist documentaries. So i guess as for temperature the problem will self correct. Biodeversity is a different story but we should be able to survive a frozen planet. Over a melting one at least

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 09:44:11 2018 No.9761749 >>9754530 Are these photos taken at the same season?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 09:46:51 2018 No.9761754 >>9754807 This but unironically Bring back the gulliotine Trump is a Jew ~made by NAZBOL GANG

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 09:54:31 2018 No.9761775 >>9754530 No, but we should be fine as human beings to have an earth of 2.0 C* higher in temperature :) It will all work out, as according to Pariss PCLImeate a;CORd

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 10:10:47 2018 No.9761814 >pump water into big container >freeze it >transport to north pole >repeat if it melts there I fixed it

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 10:14:23 2018 No.9761818 >>9761749 Written over the photos, brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 10:19:58 2018 No.9761826 >>9761749 >>9761818 >photos

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 10:40:38 2018 No.9761872 >>9759557 >Actually taking Chinese propaganda at face value

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 10:41:45 2018 No.9761875 >>9758879 lolwut

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 10:45:27 2018 No.9761882 >>9754562 A myth brought about by pop-science cultists and their exaggerated view of reality. A lot like climate change alarmists...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 10:50:51 2018 No.9761886 >>9760178 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 10:51:27 2018 No.9761888 >>9760211 According to NASA, while the North Pole/Arctic has been losing ice, Antarctica has been gaining ice.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 10:55:44 2018 No.9761894 >>9759035 Require getting your tubes tied after the first child in order to get food aid. Problem solved (and beating world hunger becomes much more affordable over time).

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 11:05:59 2018 No.9761908 >>9760178 yet

Anonymous Wed May 23 11:10:16 2018 No.9761914

>>9761117
>No top soil, no soil microbes and a shit ton of salt from evaporating seawater

the continent used to have topsoil, with microbes until it drifted to the pole and got covered with snow and glaciers. If that ice melts then whatever was underneath will be back on top. And since most of the land there is above sea level then salt from sea water wouldnt be an issue either.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 21:27:21 2018 No.9763275 >>9761091 The people I converse with on here are this stupid

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 21:29:30 2018 No.9763278 >>9754530 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU&t=1s

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 21:53:12 2018 No.9763316 >>9754530 Build more nuclear reactorsssss

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Anonymous Wed May 23 21:56:14 2018 No.9763323

>>9754530
>Is there a way to reverse this?
Not on human timescales - the residence time of CO2 is too long. We need to focus on not making it worse.

>>9761888
>According to NASA, while the North Pole/Arctic has been losing ice, Antarctica has been gaining ice.
At significantly slower and decelerating rate.

>>9761091
>Ignore scientists and data, I'm just going to assert how climatology actually works.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 22:13:03 2018 No.9763356 >>9763321 ONCE AND FOR ALL

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 22:19:22 2018 No.9763360 >>9754530 flood all the inland deserts that are below sea level with the ocean.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 22:20:19 2018 No.9763362 >>9754530 And people were not saying that any small change of the north pole frozen crust should lead flooding on the world´s coast cities?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 23 22:33:03 2018 No.9763386 File: 234 KB, 642x783, Trump Fixed it.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9754530 Looks like Trump already fixed it you sensationalist faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 24 03:38:12 2018 No.9763825 >>9761091 >>9763275 What would climate today be like if there was no anthropogenic climate change?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 24 05:20:53 2018 No.9763956 >>9761882 An anon trolled by clearly obvious sarcasm and blinded by his own self centered view of reality. A lot like crab people...

>>	Anonymous Thu May 24 05:49:11 2018 No.9763985 >>9763386 wow all his hard work in the area wasn't for naught after all

>>	Anonymous Thu May 24 05:49:55 2018 No.9763988 >>9754530 Yes. Wait for next Ice age.

Anonymous Thu May 24 16:39:07 2018 No.9764907

>>9761091
> Climate change is as ridiculous as Y2K

You are probably young, so you might not remember this, but the only reason Y2K was not a huge deal is because people took the problem seriously and invested enormous resources in fixing the problem.

Then the ignorant masses and late night hosts were totally upset that planes weren't falling out of the sky.

Regardless of what's happening with that particular ice, cities are busy spending billions to deal with seawater on the streets that didn't used to be there. Paddle on, froggy!

>>	Anonymous Thu May 24 18:35:25 2018 No.9765062 >>9764907 This. Sure there were a lot of uninformed crap going around but Y2K would have been a bloody mess without the extreme effort of many.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 24 19:31:40 2018 No.9765131 >>9760185 >ban meat This would be a good thing fatboy, and anyway your a dumbass if youthink the hedonistic left will ever do away with something that can make them feel good on short notice

>>	Anonymous Thu May 24 19:38:49 2018 No.9765137 >>9763386 Fixed? Your own image shows there's significantly less ice than the 1981-2010 average.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 24 20:00:25 2018 No.9765183 >>9761886 That's weather not climate, but that doesn't matter since he is incorrect anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 01:56:05 2018 No.9765655 >>9765183 oh okay then. But if you could voluntarily activate a Volcano, which would trigger a temporary but at least month long premature winter, wouldn't that be a man-made-climate change?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 02:15:16 2018 No.9765675 >>9765655 >If you'd do that steadily over a couple of decades, yes >If you do that once, its just changing the weather.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 07:08:00 2018 No.9765951 >>9760185 >democrats are the biggest threat to the world >not climate change

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 08:53:02 2018 No.9766068 >>9754530 We are in an ICE AGE! This is an exceptionally mild inter-glacial period we are in. WHY the fuck do you want the surface of the earth covered in MORE ice!!!!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 08:54:42 2018 No.9766070 >>9754530 >reverse the opening of the Northern Sea Route t. Butthurt American

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 09:07:33 2018 No.9766097 >>9756873 >Population >America >World? >Profit.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 14:37:56 2018 No.9766710 >>9766068 [citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 14:44:55 2018 No.9766719 >>9754530 Why would you want to?

Anonymous Fri May 25 14:47:36 2018 No.9766724

The western and east asian birth rate is declining. Its all the niggs and shitskins that cant stop fucking.
There needs to be some sort of super aids that wipes out like 90% of every african country

I dont think trying to live on mars or the moon is plausible.

I think the real solution is either to build domed cities on earth or to live underground.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 15:00:49 2018 No.9766747 >>9766724 >I think the real solution is either to build domed cities... What's the dome for?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 16:17:36 2018 No.9766908 >>9761826 I know, right? They're not even actual photographs. It's a damn computer model.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 02:00:52 2018 No.9767910 >>9766908 >all lies i tell you >nothing i do has any impact!!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 02:03:09 2018 No.9767913 >>9766724 and thats completely irrelevant because their per capita consumption is far lower than the west's

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 02:39:07 2018 No.9767936 >>9756873 Shill or retard?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 02:57:53 2018 No.9767949 File: 25 KB, 385x640, 2191947.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9754598 The underclasses will start to get desperate.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 04:47:57 2018 No.9768057 >>9754530 No. I'm sorry, but we're cooked. >>9754806 Sex dolls and VR is the future. >>9756873 t. actual retard >>9755760 >Not promoting the green party instead who's paying you? >>9760184 You better start building that wall

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 05:02:19 2018 No.9768079 >>9760185 Democrats are literally the only ones working to save the world. Go suck more corporate dick and choke on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 05:08:36 2018 No.9768088 >>9754530 All we have to do is cut back on the pollution and it will fix itself, once we go carbon neutral it'll only be a few thousand years before everything is back to normal at the poles.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 05:33:36 2018 No.9768139 File: 20 KB, 306x306, Pepe..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9768088 >it'll only be a few thousand years before everything is back to normal at the poles.

Anonymous Sat May 26 11:39:56 2018 No.9768774

>>9754806
>we are over populated! stop having kids 1st world countries!
>lol j/k we need dirty immigrates to keep economy going.
kill yourself boomer
>>9754673
sea level is a meme.
the big problem is climatic belts will shift and we have no idea how. So some current food growing areas might become untenable and the new areas might be impracticable or occupied

Anonymous Sat May 26 14:39:16 2018 No.9769131

>>9768774
>sea level is a meme.
That depends on where you live.

If you've ever moved everywhere, you know it's a huge pain in the ass. When whole cities are doing that at the same time, it's really going to suck.

That's not apocalyptic, but it does mean a lower quality of life for millions if not billions.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 14:59:37 2018 No.9769178 >>9769131 >a lower quality of life for millions if not billions wat? u mean no more flying around the world? i say fuck em

Anonymous Sat May 26 15:02:36 2018 No.9769184

>>9769178
>u mean no more flying around the world?
I mean no more living in cities we've taken centuries to build. Conflict and possibly wars over resources we used to take for granted because we're now living in inconvenient places. We can adapt, but it will suck.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:04:59 2018 No.9769192 >>9769184 >Conflict and possibly wars over resources we used to take for granted thatll happen anyway without global warming due to poulation growth

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:07:30 2018 No.9769198 >>9769184 anyway, the consumers seem to really want to play musical chairs.

Anonymous Sat May 26 15:08:20 2018 No.9769201

>>9768774
Nobody really knows what impact climate change would/ might have.
For all we know, the sudden temperature rise will whip-saw and cause temperatures to plummet because of increased cloud cover albedo from oceanic evaporation or something.

Best solution, we automate the economy so we can sterilize the now purposeless former labor pool. Maybe keep 500 million people around, let the rest go on welfare in exchange for mandatory sterilization and let the few people who have jobs that cannot be automated reproduce. Or make it a lottery or something. Either way the carbon emission problem would vanish in a generation or so, sooner with more proactive methods.

Anonymous Sat May 26 15:16:16 2018 No.9769215

>>9769192
>>Conflict and possibly wars over resources we used to take for granted
>thatll happen anyway without global warming due to poulation growth

Population growth is overstated. The doomsday scenarios of past generations have not panned out because as societies advance, population growth slows naturally.

But you do have a point, which is why it's best not to compound the problem. You're right that competition will be an issue, but it will be exacerbated if we have to abandon large chunks of civilization and start over.

Anonymous Sat May 26 15:18:58 2018 No.9769221

>>9769201
>Nobody really knows what impact climate change would/ might have.
Climatologists have a pretty good idea, and this:

>For all we know, the sudden temperature rise will whip-saw and cause temperatures to plummet because of increased cloud cover albedo from oceanic evaporation or something.

is not it. Stop talking out of your ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:19:46 2018 No.9769225 >>9769215 >as societies advance, population growth slows naturally theres only one country on earth where this statement is even remotely true

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:21:27 2018 No.9769231 Is it possible to make a small home based diy carbon capture device, powered by solar? So it sucks in CO2 and coverts it to something solid that can be buried.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:26:21 2018 No.9769240 File: 44 KB, 500x375, 5db1f9cd69102a1b018d40dfb189355c9b5dfcd4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Drop an asteroid. Move humanity to space.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:27:19 2018 No.9769243 >>9769221 >is not it. actually the gulf stream has apparently been slowing, causing cooling in some places. its probably not enough to cause a whipsaw effect, but he has a point

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:27:25 2018 No.9769245 >>9769231 Algae and compost it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:30:59 2018 No.9769250 >>9769225 >theres only one country on earth where this statement is even remotely true Oh, I guess I've wandered into /pol/ fantasy land?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:32:44 2018 No.9769253 >>9769225 Every western nation depends on immigration to keep population growing and working age. Japan and SKorea are getting older and shrinking.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:34:39 2018 No.9769259 >>9769243 Cooling in some places is irrelevant.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:36:16 2018 No.9769261 >>9769250 >did i just read that!?!? >the nerve!!!!!!! >RACIST! sorry youre a fucking moron

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:38:07 2018 No.9769265 File: 37 KB, 394x479, 117897979980.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9758431 >when the global warming really kicks in and people start starving all over the planet Nice meme. It's like capitalism is evil or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:38:45 2018 No.9769266 point your air conditioiner at the north star

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:39:06 2018 No.9769268 >>9769253 >Every western nation depends on immigration to keep population growing and working age. yes, well all die horrible deaths without immigration. thank you for reminding me

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:42:18 2018 No.9769276 >>9754530 drop ice cubes into the ocean

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 15:43:28 2018 No.9769280 File: 88 KB, 778x945, aussie fauna.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9754530 white genocide, but unironically

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 16:01:37 2018 No.9769326 >>9769231 Best carbon capture method is enhanced weathering. So buy some limestone boulders from a quarrying company and smash it into dust with a sledgehammer in your freetime.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 16:05:19 2018 No.9769337 >>9769326 doing so would almost certainly produce more co2 than is captured because of extra calories (food/energy) required to do the actual work (smashing). 2nd law is a bitch, but hey dont let that dissuade you from your fixation with growth.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 16:12:34 2018 No.9769353 >>9769337 With enhanced weathering the energy used to sequester the carbon comes from the oxidization of the rocks, less so the smashing. So it's an entropic process, which is why it's the best because the universe loves entrophy.

Anonymous Sat May 26 16:18:57 2018 No.9769363

>>9769353
i still think when you add everything up it would be a net loss, maybe not as bad as burying algae or something like that but still. even when both processes use the suns energy... just gives one an appreciation for how much energy really does come from fossils

Anonymous Sat May 26 16:34:14 2018 No.9769402

>>9769363
If you were to crush up carbonate rocks with power from diesel engine, it would still sequester more carbon than the diesel engine could emit. You can think of the rocks as a sort of fossil store of potential energy and it releases that energy as it undergoes oxidation.
Not saying it's practical, but it's energy efficient, (from our practical standpoint) at least.
The joke is the idea of anon doing his part to save the world by smashing rocks in his backyard with a hammer.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 16:38:28 2018 No.9769414 >>9769402 >If you were to crush up carbonate rocks with power from diesel engine, it would still sequester more carbon than the diesel engine could emit and youre absolutely sure about that...

Anonymous Sat May 26 16:49:09 2018 No.9769435

>>9769414
Yes. Normally you'd be right about it violating the laws of physics, but since silicates have a higher energy than carbonates, about 80% of the energy required to sequester the carbon is done by the rocks, basically. If a typical diesel engine converts 40% of it's fuel into useful work, its still a net sequestering of carbon.

You can google all this if you're that curious.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 16:54:56 2018 No.9769451 >>9769435 even if youre right on the 20% margin, you still need to get the rocks AND the fuel to the engine, build the engine, maintain the engine, disperse the carbonate dust, and feed the guy who operates the engine

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 17:00:35 2018 No.9769474 >>9769451 >in4b >all that other stuff is a rounding error >inb4 lets use nuclear energy/electric vehicles to do that similar issues with point 2: 2nd law is clear: to clean up one mess you always make a bigger different mess somewhere else

Anonymous Sat May 26 17:13:21 2018 No.9769509

>>9769474
>>9769451
If this were entirely about energy you'd be right but this is specifically about expending energy to sequester carbon. Also, embodied energy of a device like a diesel engine is tiny on a long enough timeline. The energy used to have a diesel engine set up crushing rocks is tiny compared to the energy it would use crushing rocks for say, 20 years or whatever arbitrarily long timeline you can suppose.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 17:16:12 2018 No.9769520 >>9754530 This fucking retarded thread has been up for a week. This is sad. Ice melts retard, get over it. If you want more ice on earth then blot out the sun and plug up the volcanos. Or learn to use a fucking fridge.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 17:18:23 2018 No.9769529 >>9769509 ok im convinced.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 18:21:28 2018 No.9769682 I don't want to bust up rocks. I want to sequester atmospheric CO2.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 19:27:44 2018 No.9769841 >>9769337 This argument assumes that the smasher is going to consume extra. You could very well consume the same amount and do nothing.

Anonymous Sat May 26 20:50:04 2018 No.9770002

>>9768057
>actually liking the green party
Greens in Yurop have some good ideas. Greens in America are absolute nutjobs. they oppose any and all nuclear power, spread misinformation about genetic engineering, and pander to anti-vaxxers because they only believe science that tells them it's a big corporate conspiracy.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 21:01:32 2018 No.9770016 >>9770002 Nader was a great candidate (Shut up, Gorefags!), but I don't think they've had anyone credible on the national scale since (and maybe before).

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 21:11:23 2018 No.9770036 >>9769520 >Ice melts Hmmm, I wonder if anyone knows WHY it's melting? Or if we have some ideas about the consequences of such a huge, sudden change in our climate? Hmmmmm, I guess according to you anyone who asks these questions is retarded

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 09:28:53 2018 No.9771010 >>9754719 That would disperse quickly. A huge IR reflector would do, using solar sails to balance between gravity and solar pressure. Possible but hard.

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