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Finished Highschool and I have to apply for my undergraduate soon, but I dont know what I want to do yet... Tell me Anons,
what are you studying
how do you like it
would you study it again
what do you want to do once you have your degree
give general insight about the subject
is there a sufficient demand for it in the future?

>> No.9753178

Math

>> No.9753185

>>9753166
trade

>> No.9753189

anything with science and engineering if you wanna make money.
If you're a brainlet Biology, Econ or Political Sciences for max reward regarding your mental capacities

>> No.9753190

>>9753166
>what are you studying
I have a degree in Computer science
>how do you like it
I liked it
>would you study it again
Yes
>what do you want to do once you have your degree
I am jobless.
I have an upcoming job interview for a position in network forensics though.
>give general insight about the subject
There are several math lectures that you need to attend. The actual "CS" classes also require math, but mostly just "basic" stuff from discrete mathematics. I have never needed to solve any integrals during a non-math class, but you definitely need logic, set theory, graph theory, etc.
Besides that, it's simple. Learn things by heart, try to understand concepts.
There is a reason people say CS is for failed math majors.. it is pretty simple, as long as you are willing to do the math.
>is there a sufficient demand for it in the future?
If you specialize, yes. Otherwise no.

>> No.9753208

>>9753189
>If you're a brainlet Biology
I don't know about that.
I took an introductory course in Biology, and I was in way over my head.
There was so much material to learn, I couldn't keep up with it.
Maybe that's just my experience, but if you study biology, you should be prepared to spend 8 hours a day learning things by heart.

>> No.9753211

>>9753189
Thanks, looking for experiences right now. What did you do? If appreciate it if you would chime in

>>9753190
Thanks, which cs fields will become more important in the future and are worth to specialise in?

>> No.9753214

>>9753208
that's the tough part about biology - remembering stuff, not thinking about stuff

>> No.9753230

>>9753214
with biochem it's the same

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>>9753211
>What did you do?
Chemical Engineering and Biotechnology
>how do you like it
a lot, but say good bye to start partying on Wednesday.
>would you study it again
Yeah, I guess so. I studied Psychology before that and am way happier now especially regarding future prospects.
>what do you want to do once you have your degree
At first I'm gonna get my Masters, probably in Nanotechnology and Electrical Materials or Chemical Engineering, will see.
After that most likely PhD unless I get a very good offer for a Job.
>give general insight about the subject
It's a very hands-on approach to biology and chemistry with a lot of physics and mathematics involved.
The engineering part deals mostly with methods of applying the above mentioned topics in an industrial setting.
At my university you have to attend to a lot of lab courses so you'll spend a lot of time actually doing things apart from studying at home that's why I said forget about your weekend starting on Wednesday, it's time intensive.
>is there a sufficient demand for it in the future?
Absolutely, among the best earning fields in the world if you're any good.

>> No.9753279

>>9753208
yeah I wasn't talking about time investment rather about 'understanding' stuff.
I don't feel like Biology is hard to understand if you make an effort, it's just a lot of material from different fields to remember.

>> No.9753433

>>9753166
I was in the same position as you a year ago. I went to community college because it's a dirt cheap way to get my GE, try out classes in varying fields to see if you like it, and it gives you time to decide what you want to do. I'm 1 year in and have been studying astronomy, I just need to finish up my maths and physics courses then transfer to a UC. That's whats happenin with me, I suggest going to community college for 2 years and sorting yourself out.

>> No.9753472

>>9753433
Dude, how are you possibly going to get a job studying astronomy?

Please do yourself a favor and switch to engineering, comp sci, applied math, or statistics ASAP.

>> No.9753500

>>9753472
Not the anon you're replying too and not an astronomist either but I'd assume with the recent surge in space travel and general necessity to extend out reach into space it will be a solid field of study for the near future.

>> No.9753520

>>9753166
If you have no real interests other than memes and shitposting, I recommend a trade. You don't have to sink a huge amount of time into education so if you hate it, you can try another trade.

>> No.9753530

>>9753520
I think OP is from Germoney because he linked this thread in the German thread on /int/.

Trades in Germany are the biggest meme ever. You need - for example - to spend 2-3 years to learn how to become a haircutter (barbor? hairdresser?) at a greatly decreased salary. And it's like that for almost all jobs.
You're better off investing those 3 years into a bachelor's degree so you can earn 40k starting

>> No.9753534

>>9753530
Oh well in that case I have 0 advice for him. There is nothing to look forward to in Germany besides race riots.

>> No.9753542

if op is still here, go into EE or CompE and specialize in controls, it's something that will always be in demand.

>> No.9753544

>>9753166

You don't know what you want to do...

My advice is philosophy, next level maths, and something that sounds interesting to you

Make an effort to make friends, join clubs and go to activities.

But spend a lot of time in the library. Get up early every day and challenge yourself.

Later on, take hardest courses in whatever you like to challenge yourself in

>> No.9753550

>>9753472
>Dude, how are you possibly going to get a job studying astronomy?

astronomy involves physics, math, chemistry, etc...

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>>9753530
>bachelor's degree so you can earn 40k starting
kek, biggest meme ever
no one gives a shit here about your bachelor's degree.
If you don't have any pre existing connections to your field you're worth 0.
And since this is /sci/ you're probably worth -10 because NO ONE would hire someone with only a bachelors degree in let's say chemistry or biology.
Those are fields that REQUIRE a PhD or at the very least a masters degree.
You could get a bachelor in economics but there is no way you would earn more than someone who did a 3 year apprenticeship at a bank for example.
And especially the construction trades are severely underrated, you earn a shit ton in those right after your training, I'm talking like 2k+ as a 19 year old with potential of up to 6k without ever going to college.

>> No.9753576

>>9753564
>with potential of up to 6k without ever going to college.
Yeah, no.
My former landlord owned his own construction company, and he is VERY WELL OFF, but that's because he literally owns the company.
If you're an average construction hans, you will never earn 6k a month

>> No.9753591

>>9753576
>average construction hans
>potential of up to
don't you see what I'm talking about?
Up to means basically almost maxing out after doing further training in your field like "Meister" for example.
If you're a retard who wouldn't be able to finish anything in college anyway you can't expect to rise above the masses.
However, your competition is way weaker in a field like that as opposed to being one of the millions and millions of people with an average bachelor in economics or whatever from some average college.

>> No.9753594

>>9753576
>>9753591
someone who would be able to get an average bachelors degree in chemistry, which is worth nothing in his field, would probably in the top 5% regarding mental capacity in some sort of construction work.
Too many people in Germany think they have to study just because it's for free and means that you're intelligent.

>> No.9753595

>>9753550
Alright, friend, you do you.

I tell you this because I did the CC route as well, and I wouldn't want you getting rekt with debt with nothing to show for it.

>> No.9753632

>>9753564
>And especially the construction trades
Have you ever worked a day in construction? Digging holes in the hot sun for hours upon hours? Accidentally smashing your thumbs with a hammer cause you're so tired from the other hundred of nails you hammered that day?

I've worked construction, and while it pays well, it requires militaristic discipline to not get burnt out.

>> No.9753640

>>9753632
This. I have not worked in construction, but I have worked in a factory, and several of my coworkers had parts of their fingers missing.
If you work 20 or 30 years doing the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over, you eventually mess up

>> No.9753659

>>9753542

EE is one of the engineering fields with the least demand...

>> No.9753662

>>9753632
>ever worked a day in construction
building pipes etc. doesn't mean you have to work outside 24/7
The digging holes and hammering hundreds of nails type of construction jobs are on the lower end of requirements regarding education.
And no, I'm not saying it's easy work but the competition is way less than studying some average shit at some average college, you'll have a way easier time as someone of average intelligence to work yourself out of the area where you have to hammer nails out in the sun all day.
Friend of mine started to work in the hotel business instead of studying even though he easily would have been capable of doing so, now he is the marketing manager for all the hotels of his chain in his county and he's only 26.
Why is that? Because the field of competition in this area of work is full of retards.
All I'm saying is that if you don't have the desire or the intelligence to get a PhD or at least an above average Masters in STEM, you should consider not studying at all if you're just in it for the money.
Studying is not as much of a requirement as it is made out to be.

>> No.9753663

While people are giving general advice anyway, any point in doing a mathematical modelling masters?

>> No.9753691

>>9753166
>What are you studying?
I studied Physics/Math at a small private college.
>How do you like it?
It was very interesting. I took a few engineering classes for fun and in general, they were "easier". Physics generally takes a more mathematically rigorous, theoretical route of explaining basic engineering principles. It was either completely eye-opening and amazing or boring and hard to trudge through.
>Would you study it again?
In a heartbeat.
>What do you want to do once you have your degree?
I have a job in the defense industry.
>General Insight
I was pretty much top of my class, SA President, full honors, etc. Don't expect your job hunting process to be as easy as mine: I happened to know the recruiter, and I am good at interviews. So long as you're good at math and you really put in the time to understand the stuff you're looking at, I think anyone could be a Physics major (if they really want to). I will say for getting a job in Physics, there are 3 fields that primarily hire if you're not going into academics: medical, defense, and finance. Pick one of those early, and do extracurricular activities that pertain to those fields. Become good at public speaking and building resumes and all that crap. Basically, work on yourself as a person, and not just a student.
>Is there sufficient demand for it in the future?
I would imagine so, but it is a very specialized field. My company in particular looks for graduates, sure, but they are more interested in people who are well above average.

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>>9753691

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>>9753707
/sci/ on suicide watch

>> No.9753743

>>9753707
>>9753715
lol thanks for the support guys

>> No.9753854

>>9753166

>what are you studying
The official degree is mechanical, but the specialty is nuclear for me.

>how do you like it
I had aspirations of just being a reactor operator, since the work is actually minimal if I'm just an operator and not full engineer, but the pay is still good. Plans didn't fall through, so now I work at a national lab. So far I like it.

>would you study it again
Definitely

>what do you want to do once you have your degree
Don't know yet, but if this lab job pans out well, I will likely stay there.

>Give general insight about the subject
My specialty is radiation modeling, so I use special codes to do most of my work, which can range from dosimetry, reactor modeling, criticality, shielding, and particle transport phenomena.

>Is there a sufficient demand for it the future?
For reactor operators? It's a toss up. Usually those that get into that stay there for as long as they can, so finding a job like that is difficult. Generally, the U.S. doesn't seem to like nuclear energy still, so I don't see a sufficient demand for it in the future. For the national lab stuff, though, that need is high and hiring is going through the roof.

>> No.9753890

>>9753663
Are you paying for it? No.
Is someone else paying for it? Yes.
If you want to learn it for shits and giggles, you can just find the textbooks online and read it on your own time.