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9752059 No.9752059 [Reply] [Original]

Is IQ genetically determined, or a product of education and context?

>> No.9752063

>>9752059
Of course it's genetic.
Humans didn't just climb out of the tree's and start doing quantum physics by accident.
Intelligence was selected for over lots of time.

>> No.9752064
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9752064

IQ IS GENETIC

>> No.9752065
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9752065

With the analogy of a rabbit best exemplifying this. Why is it that a rabbit is unable to learn mathematics and quantum physics? Why is that a rabbit is incapable of reading a book? Why can't a rabbit produce abstract complex sounds with what ever mouth it has and contemplate suicide?

>> No.9752068
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>>9752065 Assuming the rabbit has all of it's biological needs met, the answer would be GENETICS.

>> No.9752073

Its a bit of all of those things, but sadly there are extremists on all sides who says it has to be 100% genetic or 100% environment. The validity of IQ itself is questionable to say the least.

>> No.9752077
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9752077

>>9752073 Can you teach a rabbit basic arithmetic dumbass? If the answer is no then why is that?

>> No.9752080

>>9752077
Can you play piano when I cut off your hands faggot? Why is that? Is it because your parents have shitty genes?

>> No.9752082
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9752082

>>9752080 The answer was GENETICS, but you tried raisin head.

>> No.9752087
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>>9752080 Also good job on making a false dichotomy you dumb half wit knuckle dragging retard.

>> No.9752088

>>9752082
The answer was ENVIRONMENT, but you tried boomer boi

>> No.9752089

>>9752059
Why do you think the two are mutually exclusive?

https://www.unz.com/jman/all-human-behavioral-traits-are-heritable/
https://www.unz.com/jman/the-five-laws-of-behavioral-genetics/

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>>9752088 So the reason rabbits are incapable of doing basic arithmetic is because of the environment they are raised in?

>> No.9752093

>>9752087
>That's a pretty bold move Alex, bringing up false dichotomies after comparing rabbits to humans
>Yes it is Jones, let's see if it works out for this ugly son of a bitch
>...
>Oh darn Alex, everybody thinks the poor boomer is a retarded fuckwit

>> No.9752096

>>9752091
So the reason you eat poop after I shit in your mouth is genetic right?

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>>9752093
>Retard doesn't understand what an analogy is
>Le unintelligible nigger babble

>> No.9752105

>>9752096
>Dodges the questions I ask to project his secret scat eating fetish in the form of a Freudian slip

>> No.9752111

>>9752101
Hahahahaha is your comparative reasoning so weak you can't see my question was structured the exact same way as your retarded question. If your analogy is valid, so is mine, and as the consequences are conflicting the premise is illogical.

>Look up Gaunilo's argument brainlet boomer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontological_argument

>> No.9752113

>>9752105
>Says the boomer as all my questions are left unanswered

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>>9752111
>Responds to a question with another question

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>>9752113

>> No.9752141

>>9752077
Rabbits cannot fucking talk and we don't know if they cannot do arithmetic.

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>>9752141 You have to be trolling or something, surely no one can be this fucking stupid.

>> No.9752145

>>9752065
rabbit can't speak

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>>9752145 So why can't the rabbit speak?

>> No.9752159

>>9752149
So why can't humans fly or dive for more than a few minutes?

>> No.9752184
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>>9752159 Because of genetics, which is the answer to the question you're replying to. IQ is genetic.

>> No.9752190

>>9752093
cringe

>> No.9752242

>>9752184
ability to learn is genetically determined. IQ is some man-made numbers.

>> No.9752246

>>9752059
Think of it like this: The peak potential is genetic, but you can still get fucked by malnourishment, inhaling solvents, being dropped on the head as a child, and so on.

>> No.9752248

IQ is like 80% genetic.

See: twin studies.

>> No.9752464

Genetic potential doesn't necessarily equal expressed ability. Look at the anon posting all the wojaks and prattling about muh rabbits. He was probably very bright in school, but has become quite retarded. Genetics, while involved, were not to blame. There's no gene for your library being well-funded

>> No.9752480

>>9752073
Validity as well as reliability of IQ as a measure of general question has been shown beyond any reasonable doubt.
If you wish to contest this, do so.

>>9752059
It is genetically determined roughly 60% to my knowledge (on average) if I remember correctly. The rest is nurture. Both factors vary per person, obviously.

>> No.9752522

>>9752480
general intelligence*

>> No.9752608

>>9752059

Your max IQ potential is genetic but if you are at max or minimum of your personal potential is determined by practice and education

>> No.9752661

Seriously, all IQ threads should be moved to >>>/x/

>> No.9753354

IQ is mostly genetic.

im sorry if you're stupid but maybe you're better off that way

>> No.9753385

>>9752661
Unironically this. /sci/ could be so much better if it weren't obsessed with the IQ meme.

>> No.9753404

>>9752089
This. Also, genetic differences are caused by the environment anyway since the environment (a vague term) drives natural selection. Social roles can also change genetics in instances such as sexual selection. The dichotomy is just oversimplified brainlet pop science.

>> No.9753411 [DELETED] 

>>9752089
Finally a brother of African descent who speaks the truth.
Like most traits, the intelligence is both hereditary and a product of context.

>> No.9753416

>>9752089
Finally a brother of African descent who speaks the truth.
Like most traits, intelligence is both hereditary and a product of context.

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9754120

>gets btfo in one thread
>makes another one
2c has been deposited in your account