/ENGI/- Engineering General: Sin(x) = x edition

[Anonymous No.9750190]

Last thread is close to the bump limit, and it seems like everyone's forgotten about it already.

How's everyone's internships going?

[Anonymous No.9750324]

Got a last minute call for an interview last week, just waiting to hear back. This is literally my last shot at an internship, if I don't get this, then Idk what to do. I've been stressing all week.

[Anonymous No.9750328]

>>9750190
>internships
Lol. Who /PE/ here?

[Anonymous No.9750353]

>>9750324
So long as you're not entering your senior year with 0 experience I wouldn't worry about it

[Anonymous No.9750358]

>Lighting Fixture Designer I
>Requirements:
>Masters/PhD in Mechanical Engineering + 10 years experience working on light fixtures
>8+ years experience in CATIA and NX designing light fixtures
>10+ years experience in ISO-696969 and ISO-8008135 light fixture analysis
>Certified Six Sigma and Lean Expert, with supplementary light fixture process training
>must be okay working in a high stress environment
>must be okay working weekends
>must be able to lift 100lbs
>PE License required
>Responsibilities:
>Write reports
>Tabulate light fixture data in Excel
Fuck it, I'm getting a job in software.

[Anonymous No.9750382]

>>9750358
Yep, I'm so fucking glad I'm at least in CompE and I get to learn a lot of core CS. PhD in Memechine learning here I come.

[Anonymous No.9750390]

>>9750324
i'm in the same position too
hopefully i dont drop my spaghetti in the interview

[Anonymous No.9750540]

>>9750190
My favorite approximation is the brother of this one, the old "cos(x) = 1."

[Anonymous No.9750677]

>>9750358
Seriously, who comes up with these job requirements? A high schooler could do most of this stuff.

[Anonymous No.9750705]

>>9750677
Companies love to list their entry level positions requiring 10+ years of experience, that way they can go to the government and say "golly gee government, we want to hire citizens to fill these positions, but it looks like none of our citizens want to work for us! Look! We had this job opening posted for 6 months and no one eligible applied! Could you help us get visas for a few hundred Indian and Chinese immigrant workers, please?" and then the government goes "I see nothing wrong with this"

Inb4 "PROOFS? PROOFS?" chickens, like this isn't common fucking knowledge

[Anonymous No.9751082]

>>9750705
if it's common knowledge you shouldn't have difficulty proving it.

[Anonymous No.9751100]

3rd year EE here. How the fuck do you guys manage to not lose your shit in the interviews?

I've never been to one and honestly they are the most horrifying thing I can think of.

[Anonymous No.9751105]

>>9751100
Do a bunch of interviews. There's nothing to it, just be yourself, be confident.
(oh, wait, there's a reason you're an engineer)

[Anonymous No.9751109]

>>9751105
CS are the guys who lose their shit you idiot. Engineers can at least hold themselves together for long enough to give the impression that they're normal.

[Anonymous No.9751111]

>>9751109
just some lighthearted banter, anon

[Anonymous No.9751113]

>>9751100
EE undergrad student I meant lol

On another note, my university offers an artificial intelligence/robotics "subspecialization" (alongside RF, control, power, etc). Do you think getting into that is a good idea? The job market for machine learning engineers seems to be growing but I fear CSfags might be too much of a competition for an EE trying to get into that field.

>>9751105
Should you prepare yourself for an interview or just go for it without thinking too much about it? I heard there are questions that companies will ALWAYS ask you and it's better to be prepared for those.

[Anonymous No.9751121]

>>9751113
As far as technical interview questions go, the type where they give you a problem on the board and ask you to solve it, that depends on what job you're applying for and the particular field you're in; I have no advice, but you should know your stuff.
But you definitely, definitely should be prepared to answer a few questions about your past experience. What was the biggest project you've worked on? How did you respond to a major setback? What did you learn from your most recent project? How did you contribute to your team on this project? These kinds of questions will be in every interview, so you need to come prepared to talk about your experiences and accomplishments.

[Anonymous No.9751124]

If you're top of the class tier is there a chance a company will come and offer you an internship? Or does this just happens in fiction lol

[Anonymous No.9751154]

>>9751124
Not unless you apply.
t. top of the class tier

[Anonymous No.9751175]

>>9751113
any of those are excellent specializations, and AI is pretty much the future.

[Anonymous No.9751184]

first week of internship. i'm getting paid $48/hr to sit in sales meetings then get taken to lunch by vendors who really want me to buy their shit lel engineering actually wasnt a meme after all boys

[Anonymous No.9751203]

>>9750190
Flew half way across the control for controls engineering internship

Ladder logic, hmi, and plc shit is kicking my ass

[Anonymous No.9751210]

>>9751121
wrong

[Anonymous No.9751230]

>>9751184
I didn't even know you can make that much in an internship.

[Anonymous No.9751246]

>>9751203
Ez shit boi, if you can make LL your bitch, there's a ton of money in it.

[Anonymous No.9751250]

>>9751203
>Ladder logic, hmi, and plc
God that stuff is such cancer. I shudder at the thought that it even exists instead of writing code for a microcontroller like any sane person.

[Anonymous No.9751278]

>>9751230
Oil and gas my friend. I'm a graduate level intern but even the undergrads make $38/hr. They pay you like a full time employee

[Anonymous No.9751281]

>>9751278
I thought they paid like $18/hr or something dirt cheap.

[Anonymous No.9751339]

I'm at the point where I have to pick a major and I still can't decide whether to do ME or EE fuuuuuuuuuuck.

[Anonymous No.9751367]

>>9751339
EE obsly

Guys, is taking a Quantum Mechanics class a waste of time for an EE or are there actual applications?

[Anonymous No.9751383]

>>9751367

One of my EE buddies took some solid state class that involved a little bit of QM. They used the Schrodinger equation and a few other things that were necessary for the design of solid state devices.

I don't know if it's necessary to take an entire class dedicated to QM though.

[Anonymous No.9751399]

>>9751383
It's definitely not required, but I thought it would be a fun little class to take as an elective.

[Anonymous No.9751553]

Anyone done engineering physics for a masters?

[Anonymous No.9751562]

>just finished second semester, 43 credit hours done with, 3.3 GPA
>switched majors from Mech E to Materials Science 5 weeks into second semester
>no internship, no job, been filling out applications for 2 weeks but heard nothing
Will I make it lads?

[Anonymous No.9751621]

I'm coming back for my 2nd intership at the same location.
I feel kinda bad I got it through a connection that otherwise means I didn't earn it on my own merits.

[Anonymous No.9751633]

>>9751367
im taking very intro lower division QM in an EE, it's pretty fun desu

[Anonymous No.9751638]

>>9751621
>believing in the myth of meritocracy
everyone gets their shit through having people or having money dun worry about it

[Anonymous No.9751645]

>>9750358
>must be able to lift 100lbs
how weak are you

[Anonymous No.9751920]

>>9751645
Are you an engineer or a day laborer?

[Anonymous No.9752016]

Anyone here in computational electromagnetics? My lecturer for electromagnetics offered me a holiday job doing some work for him. 3rd year undergrad btw

[Anonymous No.9752021]

>>9751645
>>9751920
It's a pretty clever way to be able to not hire women for engineering jobs with no legal problems.

[Anonymous No.9752172]

Just finished up my freshman year in EE, started an internship last week, and honestly feel like I'm in way above my head. I was really excited to get some experience this early but now I'm a little worried I'll fuck it up somehow.

>>9751562
I wouldn't worry too much yet. In my experience, most people don't get internships their first summer (I'd been applying to jobs for most of the spring and was fully expecting to not have a job until I got a call out of the blue during finals week). 3.3 is less than ideal though, especially for your earliest courses.

[Anonymous No.9752203]

Hows medical engineering?

[Anonymous No.9752216]

>>9751250
I totally get where your coming from but you must remember, LL is the easiest shit ever and works just fine for must application's.

[Anonymous No.9752289]

>>9751562
If I read this correctly, you’re just coming out of your freshman year. Nobody generally wants you and nobody expects you to have an internship right now. Do research next semester and know that as a sophmore you now need to start grinding out applications.

[Anonymous No.9752310]

I just got accepted into my university’s undergrad chemical engineering program and now I can choose a specialization in nanoscience, biomolecular, or sustainability/energy. Should I go for one of these specializations or not worry about something I may end up removing from my resume if I were to apply to a company outside of my specialization?

[Anonymous No.9752344]

Little babby EE student that just finished freshman year here. Are there any “pitfalls” or dangers I should know about studying to become an Electrical Engineer? I’ve heard that the math gets crazy.

[Anonymous No.9752425]

>>9752344
don't take more than 3 math/science heavy, major-specific classes. just don't.

you'll see a ton of e-bragging about 18 credit hour semesters and 99% of the time these guys are blatantly lying or they're civ engineering shitters who don't have to take demanding courses

take 5 years to graduate. there is no shame. don't be a dumb normie who binge drinks and parties instead of studying. you will be doing a lot of studying. deal with it.

[Anonymous No.9752489]

>>9751562
>cold applying to internships without networking/knowing someone
if you're a white male, you will literally never get a call back

[Anonymous No.9752509]

Should I go for Applied Maths or Engineering degree?

[Anonymous No.9752519]

>>9752509
Applied physics or engineering?

[Anonymous No.9752651]

>>9752021
I don't think that's what it is anon.

[Anonymous No.9752658]

>>9752344
nojobs.jpg

[Anonymous No.9753020]

I'm struggling with EM lads.

[Anonymous No.9753074]

>>9753020
just use the right hand rule

[Anonymous No.9753575]

>>9753020
Read up on Griffiths and Purcell.

I'm studying Materials Science and Engineering and would like to learn some topics in applied mathematics and programming for simulations. I'm currently studying Python and SageMath right now (I could probably """legally""" download MatLab or Mathematica if recommended). What textbooks should I get that are preferably relevant to materials?

[Anonymous No.9753587]

>>9752425
Thanks bud.

I'm in my fourth year of engineering and thought I was just a retard for having trouble with 3 upper-divs and a lower div.

[Anonymous No.9753889]

Is it possible to get an internship after I already graduated a year ago?

[Anonymous No.9753907]

>>9753889
You better have a good reason for that 1 year gap, or you are screwed.

[Anonymous No.9753910]

FSAE is fun but is it actually worth it to spend my time to build this cool useless car? My GPA is suffering and also my mental state

[Anonymous No.9753911]

>>9753907
Health crisis.

[Anonymous No.9753912]

>>9753889
Very unlikely. Maybe a garbage one. Companies recruit directly from schools for a reason. They want students.

[Anonymous No.9753913]

>>9753911
Not a good reason

[Anonymous No.9753915]

>>9753913
What's an example of a good reason? I had cancer.

[Anonymous No.9754082]

>>9753915
For an employer that isn't a good reason, don't mention that

[Anonymous No.9754096]

>>9754082
Well just fuck my shit up.

[Anonymous No.9754242]

>>9753020
What parts of EM are troubling you?

[Anonymous No.9754349]

>>9753913
>>9753915
>>9754082
Isn't that illegal for employers to discriminate like that?

[Anonymous No.9754356]

>>9751367
What the literal fuck

YES it's necessary. Do you know what an electron is? What magnetism is? Not before QM. Without QM, you're just a glorified plumber for very small pipes.

[Anonymous No.9754550]

>>9750190

HEY FAGGOTS I WANT AN ANSWER TO THIS NOW
IF I HAVE A HOVER TANK THAT WEIGHS 30 TONS AND NO CUSHION, THEN HOW MANY WATTS WILL KEEPING IT 30 CM ABOVE GROUND CONSUME

[Anonymous No.9754620]

Hey, guys, I'll be doing my final year of my Mechanical Engineering degree next year.

I've already done Thermodynamics and Fluid Mechanics.

Fluids was a cake-walk since it was so conceptual, but thermo absolutely kicked my ass mercilessly. I still can't read those fucking steam tables.

I'm taking thermo-fluids next year and I'm desperate to know how to study this shit. I've done well in dynamics, fiber polymer science, probability theory, circuits and systems, etc, but I can't for the life of me figure out thermo. Does anyone here know how to study this shit?

[Anonymous No.9754689]

>>9754550
w = m*g*y

w = 27215.5kg * 9.8m/s^2 * 0.3m = 80013.57 J

[Anonymous No.9754697]

>>9754689

That is the energy required to lift the hovertank up, not the energy required to keep it floating.

[Anonymous No.9754705]

>>9754697
The "power" required to keep it up depends on the technology.

[Anonymous No.9754800]

>>9754705

Yes. I am talking about using the ground effect.

[Anonymous No.9754810]

>>9754800

So fans/turbines blowing air to the underside of the tank in order to create sufficient air pressure to keep the tank in the air. The hover tank wouldn’t have a cushion but it would have a small sideways skirt to keep some pressure in.

[Anonymous No.9754829]

>>9754810
Again , depends on the tech. The amount of power needed to keep a helicopter up depends on the rotor length

[Anonymous No.9754839]

>>9754620
Read a textbook

[Anonymous No.9754851]

>>9754829

WIth helicopter you simply model the energy required to accelerate air. Let me ask you another question then. Say I have region A with pressure 1.5a which is in contact with region B with pressure 1a. The area of contact is b, how do I calculate the rate with which gas moves to the region of low pressure?

[Anonymous No.9754880]

>>9754851
Tbqh im EE dude , I spent my Newtonian physics based classes spaced out

[Anonymous No.9754881]

>>9750328
>tfw aerospace
>tfw couldn't get a PE if I wanted to because literally no one I work with has one

[Anonymous No.9754885]

>>9754839
Should I put a pencil to paper as well? Perhaps even do some problems and take notes.

10/10 help

[Anonymous No.9754939]

>>9754880

Reeeeeee, do you have any recommendations for fluod mechanics textbooks? Also does this general like phycisists?

[Anonymous No.9754951]

>>9754939
this is the engineering general. we're not physicists. but we can bantz with physicists. although some posters, or maybe just me, will try to convince physics majors to switch to engineering since it makes more $ and you can still do nerdy r&d if that's what you really want as a career.

as for fluid mech textbooks, idk homie. certain subreddits might unironically be better help for that. usually people have more praise for youtube professors than they do specific textbooks. i think only turbo autists can get through textbooks. i'd rather have a prof spoonfeed me cause i hate the way textbooks are written.

[Anonymous No.9754955]

>>9754620
Do problems until you get tired of problems, then do more.
Steam tables will just become another tool.
The concepts in thermo aren't more difficult than the concepts in fluids, so I would wager the way to go would be to practice.

[Anonymous No.9755011]

>>9754955
Thanks, bud.

[Anonymous No.9755206]

>>9753915
Hope you were working on side projects during the past year that you can add to your portfolio...

[Anonymous No.9755211]

>>9753910
Keep your GPA above 3.5, but yes, working on FSAE is good for your resume.

[Anonymous No.9755249]

>>9754885
Yeah, exactly that. So get off of 4chan already and start studying you fucking rart.

[Anonymous No.9755301]

>>9753907
>>9753912
>>9753913
>>9754082
>>9755206
>get cancer
>lmao, why are you so lazy?
>also I don't want to hire you because you might get it again
Is this the absolute state of engineering? I'm not sure anymore that this is a good career if it means having my life ruined by my greedy employer in case something happens to me later in life.

[Anonymous No.9755305]

>>9755301
employers see a gap year as a possible incarceration

[Anonymous No.9755308]

As an EE, give me a cool project to work it, Im empty of ideas ;-;

[Anonymous No.9755309]

>>9755301
Once you're in, you're in, but for now you're just trash

[Anonymous No.9755392]

>Start working in engineering
>"boy, life really starts right now!"
>4 years later
>constantly questioning whether my coworkers can visualize bending and twisting

[Anonymous No.9755438]

>>9752172
It's probably actually a really good thing that you're getting experience that early. I just finished my second year of EE, and still have yet to get any experience with an internship.

>>9752344
The math isn't too bad, from my experience. Probably the hardest math course I took was differential equations, but a big part of that was because the teacher sucked.

[Anonymous No.9755482]

>>9755308
Anything dealing with Time-Domain Reflectometry, Waveguides/Slotted Antenna geometry, Esimation of error margins for digital systems, or the theory and design of RF amplifiers for a given bandwidth like AM/FM or GPS frequency bands are decent project ideas.

[Anonymous No.9755486]

>>9754939
the /sci/ wiki, why do you brainlet's never bother searching?

[Anonymous No.9755539]

>>9755392
Bro...
I feel you

[Anonymous No.9755556]

>>9754242
please explain

[Anonymous No.9755560]

>>9755556
Explain what?
Solve Gauss law for a sphere

[Anonymous No.9755581]

>>9751082
Still doesn't make it illegal. Predatory, yes. Illegal, no. Happens ALL THE TIME. Especially in basic bitch research positions. If your degree is in Bio, Chem, Physics, etc. then you better have at least a masters or you'll be making $10 an hour for the first couple years (unless you luck out and get a fast tracked position, but will still top out at $20 an hour).

[Anonymous No.9755608]

>Be civil engineer
>apply for jobs outside of civ. e because idgaf
>actually get hired as a pipeline engineer, doing ME work
>took your job, make more than 90% of you and have 1.5x the amount of paid vacation
Feels real good, man. Shits easy.

[Anonymous No.9755650]

>>9755608
>being this insecure about your Civ. E degree.

[Anonymous No.9755666]

>>9755608
Congrats on taking the job that none of the rest of us wanted to do, my man
t. ME working in aerospace

[Anonymous No.9755673]

>>9755666
>Those trips
>Darling the Franxx
You were waiting for this shit post, weren't you anon?

[Anonymous No.9755675]

Who here /EE/? I'm currently struggling with my master thesis. Working on an antenna for 5G networks, I'll probably try to publish it if the practical results are good enough.

Also trying to get a scholarship in Japan or any other country besides the shithole I lived my whole life.

[Anonymous No.9755681]

>>9755675
Where do you live? /EE/bro from Chile here.

Do jobs prospects get any better for a EE if you get a PhD? Should you get a PhD as soon as possible or is it preferable to acquire some job experience first?

[Anonymous No.9755688]

>>9755681
>Chile
Hello neighbor, I'm from Brazil.
Jobs prospects here are a negative, even for someone like me who's studying at USP. People with PhD generally just stick working in the academia.

That's why I'm working on getting a scholarship somewhere else. But from my experience Europe is quite easy, since I got a internship there during my exchange.

[Anonymous No.9755783]

>>9755675
>recent EE undergrad
From course work with EM fields and antennas, the applications for 5G frequency band is interesting but brings up some complications due to path losses. For the higher frequency band, the wavelength is comperable to the size of water droplets or snowflakes and the application of these networks in urban enviorments. Am I correct in assuming the path losses for the 5G band is the hard part which in turn requires a higher gain antenna/antenna array (MIMO arrays?)

[Anonymous No.9755791]

Engineers, what are your thoughts on flat earth?

[Anonymous No.9755941]

Posted without comment:

http://www.niar.wichita.edu/profile/careers.asp

[Anonymous No.9755947]

>>9755783
Not really. The losses are going to be dealt by decreasing the size of the cells and by applying Beamformming and Beamsteering on the signal.
I've read a paper that stated something interesting. You don't need to think that the losses are a problem. They are actually good. This means less interference between cells and devices since you can pretty much just direct your signal to where you want it to be and it will be much closer than nowadays.
About water and snowflakes I've read that part of the technology is having the device and cell try to figure out the best path to transmit the signal by analysing how it bounces around, but I didn't see anything concrete about it afaik.

[Anonymous No.9755967]

>>9755941
>noninmigrant

What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.9756029]

>>9755967
The h1b visa is a nonimmigrant visa, meaning that people who get it aren't seeking to move to the US permanently (only temporarily)

[Anonymous No.9756124]

no internship but I will have a summer research with my heat transfer professor. Am I still fucked /eng/?

[Anonymous No.9756382]

>>9751250
LL is perfectly fine for most cases. Yes, PLCs are usually a matter of marketing, but the companies will accept them over your own custom design 8/10 times

[Anonymous No.9756390]

>>9752509
I'm B.S. Mech Eng. and M.S. Applied math.

ask me anything

I still care a lot about the physics, but I switched fields because I really just didn't want to be an engineer.

[Anonymous No.9756402]

Will an internship unrelated to my exact field be worth anything when applying to later internships and jobs? My internship is in hardware eng (meche/ee), but I plan on applying to optics related internships and jobs next

[Anonymous No.9756417]

I'm taking the EE Circuit Analysis and Design class and we have to choose a project with different "difficulty scores" (1 to 10, from easiest to hardest). Me and a friend chose one of the hardest (9/10) and it consists of building a linefollower using only op-amps and basic circuit elements (i.e. no microchips, microcontrollers or Arduino allowed).

Is this project actually hard? We haven't even started to look into it.

Also, and most importantly, can you put these kind of projects on your resume when applying for internships? Or do "class projects" don't count?

[Anonymous No.9756420]

>>9756417
Yes any project, whether in class or out of class, can be put on your resume. I never did one out of class project (too poor for the ones I thought of at the time) and put 2-3 in class ones which landed me two internships which led to a fulltime job

[Anonymous No.9756422]

>>9756420
Phew, feels so good to hear that.

[Anonymous No.9756424]

I think EEs classes are pretty cool, but EEs jobs are so fucking boring.

[Anonymous No.9756431]

>>9756424
What do EE jobs look like? What do you actually do all day?

[Anonymous No.9756970]

>>9756424
what about the more physics related fields like Optics and RF?

[Anonymous No.9756983]

>>9756431
>What do EE jobs look like? What do you actually do all day?
jerk off a lot, myself, the boss, the occasional customer

[Anonymous No.9757030]

What are some really math heavy EE concentrations? Are there any fields that I could pursue where I'd basically be an applied mathematician by normie terms? I don't want to leave this major but I find all of the shit outside of my physics and math courses boring as shit (i.e. my engineering courses).

[Anonymous No.9757045]

>>9756390
Not that Anon but is operations research a viable field to pursue and/or should I have a back up plan? Is applied math research as exciting as they make it seem? Can you really jump from field to field helping others solve problems with their research? Do you know anything about research outside of academia? (I don't expect you to have an answer for every question I'm just shooting what I can)

[Anonymous No.9757058]

>>9757030
signals?

[Anonymous No.9757074]

what's the job market like for computer architecture?

[Anonymous No.9757082]

>>9752310
It depends. I'm a ME at my uni but I took a specialization in nanofabrication that was for EE but just opened MEs. Essentially my uni taught us how to design wafers and go through the whole process of making them. I'd say it's good to get something like a concentration cause you stick out (well more so for my case cause I'm the only ME to do this so far) I wouldn't worry about missing out opportunities for ChemE that's what your general coursework is for, now if you mean the other concentrations then you might be missing some things but overall don't worry about it

[Anonymous No.9757086]

>>9757030
Telecommunications

[Anonymous No.9757091]

>>9750324
>didn't get n internship
>i can't get a job no matter what
you better hear back anon, i'm considering suicide.

[Anonymous No.9757099]

any españabros here? How is it going?

[Anonymous No.9757110]

>>9757045
don't know much about operations research.

Applied math is exciting for me personally.

You can easily get your fingers into different fields depending on your department. Some Applied math departments focus only on methods (I like to call it "Pure Applied Math") while other departments give credence to concrete applications ("Applied Applied Math"). I fall into the latter category, and my engineering background affords me a natural path to it. (I'm currently doing optimization of refrigeration systems)

My conception about research outside of academia is that it is dominated by finacial models and machine learning. Not sure how accurate that is, it would be easy to forget about other less "sexy" uses for applied math.

[Anonymous No.9757398]

>>9756970

Those fields pay the least

[Anonymous No.9757399]

>>9757058
>>9757086

Baby tier math

[Anonymous No.9757402]

Why is engineering so competitive if the pay is so bad? We make less than most tradesmen, and about the same as most schoolteachers. When you compare it to the salary of other college degrees it's average at best.

[Anonymous No.9757405]

>>9757402
Lol what

[Anonymous No.9757417]

>>9757405
Are you one of those people that thinks $60k is a lot of money?

[Anonymous No.9757455]

>>9757417
don't fall for the ME or CivE meme and you'll make double that mid-career.

[Anonymous No.9757456]

>>9757402
But those are entry level positions. Engineering only goes up from there. Especially EE.

[Anonymous No.9757489]

>>9757455
Seriously everyone loves to suck on ME's cock and MSEN and CompEng just get shat on but truly just follow the subject you like the most and you'll still make damn good money. Where I live the average Chemical Engineer makes about $72/hour

[Anonymous No.9757494]

>>9756390
how to find job as an applied math major if you did no internship? Asking for a friend

He can't find any CAE/simulation related job in his country of origin.

[Anonymous No.9757567]

Does anyone know where I can start learning about FPGA's, and has tutorials on them so I can start some projects for my portfolio?
>>9757489
Yeah ChemE pays a fuck ton, the problem though typically is how competitive it is, very few opportunities, and job location.

[Anonymous No.9757574]

>>9757417
It’s not bad to be making in year 1 but if you’re not a brainlet you’ll be a lot higher.

[Anonymous No.9757740]

>>9757399
>Baby tier math
Just stating that doesn't help at all with the discussion. Are you willing to show why or will you just screech something autistic just to feel special?f
Wave guides, optical networks or work with fibre and metamaterials is pretty high level math.

[Anonymous No.9758026]

Pretty sure I fucked up my electromagnetism exam today lads.

[Anonymous No.9758029]

>>9758026
Hopefully not physics II. Fourth year EE course?

[Anonymous No.9758041]

>>9758029
1st year EE module at my university.

It's official, I'm a fucking brainlet. I've been suffering from this flu for the past few days and had a meltdown in the exam, couldn't do the last question which was 40% of the paper and left early.

[Anonymous No.9758045]

>>9758041
Fucking hell anon. Don't take it too hard because most schools have summer courses for first and second year courses so if you failed then you can do a 4 week course for make up. Best of luck.

[Anonymous No.9758060]

>>9758045
Looking around it's comparable to Physics II in the US (I'm a britbong). Feel like absolute shit now, looking back my maths exam last week didn't go so well either (content comparable to calc 2 & 2).

Hopefully I can still scrape the overall grade needed to keep my scholarship though, I did well enough in the 1st semester to give me some breathing room.

[Anonymous No.9758103]

Is it even possible to get an engineering job if you don't have a vagina? None of the guys in my graduating class were able to find work, but the four women who played politics in all the group projects had offers. A lot of the job listings that I'm looking at are implying that they're specifically looking for women.
>Women@Terex provides a supportive network for Terex women in their jobs and careers

[Anonymous No.9758108]

>>9758103
It's possible but you need internships in undergrad and do a lot of brown nosing. Being a white male is -50 points but it helps if you're at least bilingual and have some experience.

[Anonymous No.9758148]

>>9757489
chem e is good money but you have to move to a coastal port city

[Anonymous No.9758150]

>>9757398
RF pays the least? not from what i hear but thats just from one guy so idk

[Anonymous No.9758158]

>>9756382
Ooh yeah, you're fucked hard.

[Anonymous No.9758159]

>>9756402
aero companies (as an example) looking at an engineering students resume, don't look at his previous internships and go "how much aero shit did he do". they won't instantly turn you down if you did worked for a power company or a pc parts manufacturer. 99% of what they care about is if you can hold a job and not be a psycho, and if you can use software like excel at a basic bitch level.

[Anonymous No.9758160]

>>9758148
Figured as much. I live in Houston and it's decent if you can manage the total rape that is the heat and humidity.

[Anonymous No.9758167]

>>9758160
I can't say this with 100% confidence, but I am almost absolutely certain that the Chem E grads who can't find work are refusing to move. Like they expect $80k starting salaries from their 20k population city in rural Nebraska

[Anonymous No.9758175]

>>9756417
>can you put these kind of projects on your resume when applying for internships?
what will be more helpful is to put that stuff in a portfolio, ie, a package of projects including project descriptions, plots, figures, results, what you learned, etc. So as to demonstrate you have some basic experience doing that stuff.

[Anonymous No.9758183]

>>9751100
Just be a math major and realize everyone in the room is less intelligent than you. Ez confidence boost.

[Anonymous No.9758188]

>>9758167
Nah dude I know alot of chem Es who can't get jobs even in chicago. One of my friends finally found something and its literally a post degree internship (took him 6 months of looking only to land this)

[Anonymous No.9758214]

>>9758175
Do you mean an electronic portfolio? If yes, any webpage recommendations for hosting one?

[Anonymous No.9758220]

>>9758158
Huh

[Anonymous No.9758221]

>>9758214
An online portfolio seems to be the more popular choice but I personally just put everything into a pdf and send that along with my resume.

[Anonymous No.9758222]

>coal production was at it's highest in 2006
>One of the biggest heat waves during that period
>coal production is currently at it's lowest
>cold as fuck all year

Were the hippie scientist right about global warming in the end?

[Anonymous No.9758271]

>>9758188
chicago isn't a port city that's going to be receiving a lot of crude oil and refining it

[Anonymous No.9758272]

>>9758188
Tell him to move to Houston, Woodlands area. Jobs galore here.

But it's also only oil related work.

[Anonymous No.9758274]

>>9751100
>how do you deal with stress and anxiety
my trick is to always be stressed and anxious

[Anonymous No.9758305]

>>9757567
please respond.

[Anonymous No.9758307]

>>9758060
>>9758041
>>9758026
you couldn't phone in when you were sick, or provide a medical note?

[Anonymous No.9758392]

had an EE buddy that got into power, he told me "anon, do that blue collar shit. its steady work, great money, and easy". man, was he right. i've been doing HVAC stuff and i'm making 80k after a year. in at 8, out at 4. cut out by noon on fridays, boss doesn't even keep track of how many vacation days i take as long as shit gets done. working on my PE and about to go on my first training boondoggle. ya'll niggas can cut each others throats trying to be Tony Stark and shit.

[Anonymous No.9758444]

Engineering is dead.

[Anonymous No.9758538]

>>9751113
Learn a bit about the company, make sure you have a few questions at the end (pick at least a couple that probably won't come up during the interview itself) and make sure you can talk about yourself for 2-3 minutes without any specific prompting. It's fine to prep it as a speech but make sure you know it well enough that you can rephrase it on the fly without getting tripped up.

[Anonymous No.9758612]

>>9757740
>High level math

Maybe for an engineer...

[Anonymous No.9758763]

>>9751367
it might be useful in graduate level semi conductor work. I'm a controls guy myself so i wouldn't know

[Anonymous No.9758770]

>>9757567
the company digilent offers training chips (the one i used was a basys 3) which are good for hobby work or learning.
I think their website even has tutorials

[Anonymous No.9758779]

>>9757417
Teachers make less than half that...

[Anonymous No.9758786]

>>9758779
Nope.

https://swz.salary.com/SalaryWizard/Public-School-Teacher-Salary-Details.aspx

Plus where I live they actually make more than engineers. Here a public schoolteacher's salary is $75k and an engineer's salary is $65k, despite the fact that teachers only work nine months out of the year. Stay salty my friend.

[Anonymous No.9758872]

>>9758786
That's a mid career salary. The starting salary according to that site estimates teachers starting at 50k and then it grows to 55-60 after 10 years of experience.

An engineer's mid career salary is usually around 100k for ChemE/NucE/EE and around 80-90k for civil/mechanical, but any discipline can earn over 100k.

According to that same site the average entry level mechanical engineer's salary is 65k with no experience:
https://swz.salary.com/SalaryWizard/Mechanical-Engineer-I-Salary-Details.aspx

A promoted mechanical engineer with only 1-2 years experience (ie after your training programme) averages at 80k.

https://swz.salary.com/SalaryWizard/Mechanical-Engineer-II-Salary-Details-Location.aspx


>tl;dr conclusion
You are literally complaining that your [math]starting[/math] salary isn't much higher (it is higher) than the [math]mid~career[/math] salary of a teacher. In addition you will earn nearly double what a mid career teacher earns after only a few years and then you haven't even hit the cap of your salary yet.

In addition techs that aren't extremely specialised or experienced are paid about a third of your starting.


Engineering salaries aren't depressing, the depressing aspect is that there are no engineering jobs left due to an oversaturation of the degree.

[Anonymous No.9758976]

>>9758612
Ebin

[Anonymous No.9759048]

>>9758307
The uni is really strict on what they allow as an illness, you basically need to be dying to get a medical exception

[Anonymous No.9759055]

>>9758041
Same thing happened to me. I had the final exam on a subject which I've failed before but had such a awful flu that my brain didn't work at all during the exam.
The worst part is that I needed a doctor to verify my illness so they can allow me to retake the test but flus aren't included, you need to be dying to get days off.

[Anonymous No.9759078]

>>9759048
>>9759055
Good. We had over 20 students in our thermo II sick test this semester.

It's complete bullshit and unfair to other students who had to study for several modules in a shorter time span.

If it wasn't in our university regulations I would fail all of them. You can literally get a sick letter for being a pussy (physiological issues) here.

[Anonymous No.9759137]

>>9759078
Then it fucks up unlucky people because flu and 40+ degree fever isn't sick enough.
That's retarded. Id rather make it easy for lazy people than fucking up honest people.

[Anonymous No.9759292]

>>9750190
/ENGI/ I’m unsure of what to do. I’m a student still working on my basic bitch pre reqs, plan to go to uni next summer for EE. I got held up with class availability and timing.

Anyways, I work part time ininsurance for decent pay, but I have the option to take a job that pays a little less, is full time, only on weekends, so 40 hours between Friday and Sunday.The job is on a mining mill. I’m told they put the smart guys on controls and monitoring shit. Should I take the plunge and do it or is it too restrictive? Seems like it will be more relevant to engineering despite not being a true engineering position or internship. How often do you guys need your entire weekend to study? Should I do it?

[Anonymous No.9759325]

>summer before last year of bachelors/masters combined program
>3.9 GPA, top 10 engineering school in US
>countless resume reviews, everyone says it looks great
>never even landed an interview for an internship
>working full time in summer doing relevant work in my department, but obvi not as marketable as an internship
How fucked am I?

[Anonymous No.9759354]

>>9750190
Is changing departments for your graduate school considered a big deal? I'm mechanical engineering bachelors planning to start masters in electrical working on multiscale modeling and simulations of electronic materials and energy storage/conversion devices. Am I making a mistake? Should I stick with my second and more traditional option, which is working experimentally on composite structures and designing machine components?

[Anonymous No.9759384]

>>9759325

I don't know why american students keep talking about GPA. We already know how fucking easy is to get a perfect score in burguerland

[Anonymous No.9759397]

>>9759292
You can study on weekdays. I usually save my weekends for hobbies like vidya and guitar and gf time. The choice is entirely yours because 40 hours over 3 days insn't an easy feat. That would be two 13 hour days and one 14 hour day. The hours should give a nicer paycheck overall and if it's more related then the experience would be worth it.

[Anonymous No.9759401]

>>9759384
It's laughable. It's like a 4.0 reflects that you simply put in the work instead of actually struggling to understand the content and reflecting the potential of being a genius; people put it on their resumes in America because it reflects that they "work" for it (aka do the homework and do decent on exams because there's gonna be extra credit from your exam review anyway).
University is no longer a place just for the academic elite and that causes good programs to become watered down and eventually worthless.

[Anonymous No.9759412]

>>9759384

I bet most perfect GPA americans wouldnt even get a 80/100 average here.

[Anonymous No.9759414]

>>9750190
Genuine question to all engineers:
How does it feel to not know or to not work on finding secrets of the universe. Do you get angry at knowing that scientist and mathmaticians work on things that engineers will not see in 100 years at least?
I hope that you are at least satisfied with your salary.

[Anonymous No.9759428]

>>9759325
Should have been a woman.

[Anonymous No.9759439]

>>9759414
Spoken like a true high schooler. Hate to burst your bubble, but you're going to spend your entire career srudying someome else's theories and theorems while I invent new technologies. Of course that's assuming you can even get into academia: it's far more likely that you're going to get a job in industry that's unrelated to your unemployable major.

[Anonymous No.9759562]

>>9759439
>>9759414

t. undergrads

[Anonymous No.9759592]

>>9759414
>How does it feel to not know or to not work on finding secrets of the universe

modern scientists aren't doing this either dude. modern science has been corrupted. it's a racket. the powers that be do not allow there to be any more maxwells, faradays, teslas, etc.

[Anonymous No.9759603]

>>9759384
>It's a "European butts into an online conversation to make a totally irrelevant post about how American university classes are a fraction as involved as their country's 'totally rigorous and intense' classes, even though degrees from American universities are the most sought after degrees in the world" episode

Epic

[Anonymous No.9759614]

>>9759603
>America's industry literally consists of foreign experts
>American degrees are sought after

[Anonymous No.9759616]

>>9759325
NEVER listen to normies' advice, or at the very least listen to what they say but don't take it to heart. Always analyze it carefully. ESPECIALLY their career/job advice. They aren't interested in telling you the truth or telling you how the world really works. They're guided by their moronic emotions. They'd rather lie to you and convince you of a falsehood that could potentially ruin your life, than tell you a bitter truth that could end up greatly improving the quality of your life. Just because they're dumb, impulsive herd animals guided solely by what makes them feel good. And deluding themselves and bullshitting people sure does make them feel good.

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but if you're a white male, you will NOT get any internships from randomly sending applications in. You just won't. The only exception would be if you apply to random companies in the middle of nowhere, which would require you to move out to North Dakota for a summer or some shit. You NEED a connection to get an internship anywhere decent. You need to know someone. You need to go to career fairs and bantz and make friends with the recruiters.

[Anonymous No.9759618]

>>9759354
Can someone please answer this?

[Anonymous No.9759622]

>>9759614
>>America's industry literally consists of foreign experts
uh no

[Anonymous No.9759683]

>>9759622
>tfw Microsoft hired around 4000 international employees in America with an average salary of $109,566
>murifat still claims his community college degree is superior

[Anonymous No.9759726]

>>9759683
American Companies hire foreign labor because they don’t have to pay h1bs as much as citizens

[Anonymous No.9759742]

>>9759616
>can't get a job if you don't have an internship
>can't get an internship if you don't have connections
Remind me why engineering is such a great career again? I'm really starting to regret studying this.

[Anonymous No.9759745]

>>9759726
PS : 100k /yr in downton Seattle, or Silicon Valley is literal peanuts

[Anonymous No.9759748]

>>9759742
If you have a connection or aren’t a white male it’s easy money for life. All u need is one connection to get one internship , then ur golden and you can get hired for real after graduation.

[Anonymous No.9759754]

>>9759748
Well neither of those apply to me through no fault of my own.

[Anonymous No.9759930]

>>9759754
employers won't care if it's your fault or not, you gotta suck it up and find out how to deal with it because >>9759748 is right: you will either need a connection or don't be a white male

[Anonymous No.9759957]

>>9752021
>>9752021
My 53 year old mother can lift 100lb, so no.

[Anonymous No.9760073]

>>9759384
>>9759401
>>9759412

Oh look at that. Retarded foreigners.

[Anonymous No.9760091]

>>9755947
>Beamformming and Beamsteering
From a basic understanding of arrays in one dimension, are there any good references for the extrapolation from one-dimensional arrays to 2 or 3-D arrays with regards to their spacing. Furthermore, is the extrapolation to more dimensions of spacing inherently a flawed way to approach the array design due to the weighting coefficents applied to said array elements?
>Signal reflections
The cell placement and optimal transmission pathing would require some theory and simulation based upon the location of the cell. I am assuming it wouldn't be affecting the designers of the 5G antennas but rather the people who place the cells where they are and background research into a methodology to incorperate an optimal pathing based upon the "obstacles" in the cells range, like buildings and large areas of foliage with the postioning of the antenna being an input to the equation for the optimal pathing.

[Anonymous No.9760093]

>>9760073
>foreigners
NO U

[Anonymous No.9760102]

>>9760073
You just replied to an American

[Anonymous No.9760110]

>go two month long coding bootcamp
>make over $100k a year starting
>study engineering for four years
>make $60k a year if you can even get a job
>engineers will defend this

[Anonymous No.9760256]

>>9759078
>You can literally get a sick letter for being a pussy (physiological issues) here.
>mfw the uni specifically points out that "exam stress" isn't a reason

>>9759137
One day later and it still pains me to think about how badly that EM exam went, there's no opportunity to resit the exam to improve the grade either.

The flu has started to clear up quickly though so I should be set for my exam on Thursday

[Anonymous No.9760263]

>>9760110
Well if it’s really that easy something is going to give eventually. I guess get in while the getting a good.

[Anonymous No.9760285]

>>9760110
I'm one who thinks programming is going to replace cursive in the future and that everyone should at least know one programming language, but I like studying the physical sciences. Anyway, why not just do both? If I can't find a job with my degree then I'll go to the coding camp.

[Anonymous No.9760440]

>>9760110
>tfw in compE and gonna be doing my masters in AI and get that phat paycheck for doing nothing all day.

[Anonymous No.9760516]

>people ITT think you do engineering for the money

you do engineering for the perks and the quality of life.

1. clean, fairly quiet office job lifestyle. not hard on the body and you stay out of bad weather. but if you start going stir crazy you can always find an excuse to "go out in the field".

2. a shitload of autonomy. nobody really knows what you do and most of the time nobody is going to keep track of how long you hang around the office.

3. you can go where ever you want, pretty much whenever you want. yeah, that first gig can be a pain in the ass, but once you're in, you're in. keep your Linkedin profile updated after you get a job and you'll see what i'm talking about.

4. the credentialed nature of the job can be pretty thoroughly abused. you can get your PE and become a total fucking bum still making $35k a year doing stupid shit like designing residential trusses or back flow preventers.

5. boondoggles. yeah your going to get """"technical training""""". right.

[Anonymous No.9760611]

>>9760516
I can tell you're never going to be an engineer, you'll be a great office monkey

Have fun

[Anonymous No.9760735]

>>9750190
Just got an engineering internship. Why the fuck does everything have to be an a scavenger hunt.
>talk to this guy to install DOORs
>but first you need to get 7 keys to unlock a magical gate
It feels like that sometimes.
I like school. Everything you need is right in the book. I hate emailing 3 different people to do half an hours worth of work.

[Anonymous No.9760991]

Anyone Civil E. here? Would you recommend going into Structural, Geotechnical or Project Management?

Unrelated pic to grab your attention

[Anonymous No.9761012]

>>9760516
Pic is the truth

[Anonymous No.9761134]

>>9760516
Enjoy your mandatory weekends and unpaid overtime.

[Anonymous No.9761790]

[math]\sin x = x[/math]

mathfag here.

Is this like how [math]\pi[/math] is equal to 3 in certain physics applications?

Can someone exblain???

[Anonymous No.9761953]

>>9761790
in certain situations where x is assumed to be a small value it’s pretty useful to simplify

[Anonymous No.9762295]

>>9751113
Just don't do RF if you want to have a nice life.

[Anonymous No.9762309]

>>9761790
First-order term of the taylor series expansion

If you don't know what that means you're not really a mathfag.

[Anonymous No.9762337]

>>9761790
sin(x)/x tends to 1 as x tends to 0.

[Anonymous No.9762378]

>>9762309
if you don't l know what that means you're either in high school or in humanities

[Anonymous No.9762416]

>>9762295
Why? It seems like one of the most interesting branches of EE.

[Anonymous No.9762759]

>>9762416
It is an interesting sub-field of EE.
RF utilizes topics like transmission line theory with the Smith chart, Impedance/Admittince transformations, EMI protection, and many others with the main stipulation that you are designing these systems with respect to the frequency at which the system is operational at. For >9762295 this is the frequency characteristics for a system/component over a wide frequency range represented on a normalized smith chart. Additionally for narrow-band RF design, the bandwidth in which it is operational, within the coherence bandwidth, has little or no change for these parameters.
I haven't explained even half of the potential applications of RF engineering. It is a sub-field with alot of variation of possible things to do.

[Anonymous No.9762804]

>>9762759
I'm just in 2nd year, but how in demand is the market for this field? My EM prof says there's nice money in this, but profs aren't always up to date with industry demands.

[Anonymous No.9763127]

>>9759616
I literally got an internship randomly as a white male and everything. It is in the midwest but in the city I live anyways. Stop slacking

[Anonymous No.9763151]

>>9763127
>undergrads bragging about getting a fucking internship

[Anonymous No.9763155]

>>9763127
Also, never been to any career fairs at all (mild autistic), no research or internship experience, or connections to it at all. I was lucky that there was no interview though because I probably would have fuckt it up. Also, got phone interviewed for another position for one of the top defense contractors (first interview ever so guess how that went) and was a finalist for another internship in a national lab, but it needed 3 letters of rec in a 2 day notice which was not possible. Also an EE from an R1 uni with EE probably ranked 200-400

[Anonymous No.9763160]

>>9763151
It isnt bragging I am just saying that mongoloid is full of shit when he acts like it is impossible to get an internship as a white male. You are an absolute brainlet if you think otherwise

[Anonymous No.9763174]

>>9763160
>undergrad calling anyone a brainlet
WEEEEEEEEW LAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDD

[Anonymous No.9763188]

>>9763155
GPA and school familio?

[Anonymous No.9763191]

>>9763174
>that 30 year old boomer that thinks educational level means anything

[Anonymous No.9763208]

>>9763151
thats actually a big deal and your first real career milestone as an engineer. it means you are smart enough to get paid for being smart.

you guys are only doing PAID internships, right? RIGHT?

[Anonymous No.9763220]

>desperate for an internship
>finally get an offer from a construction company
>they are building a tram line and are having trouble with the prints because they are all in german
>project manager couldn't fully comprehend some table of values and had been estimating by rounding up or down
>on a multi-million dollar project
>i recognize immediately the instructions to use bi-linear interpolation
>mention i can give them exact values if they need them
>"y-you can do that?"
>spend the rest of the summer cruising around in a company truck doing whatever i wanted because i saved the company hundreds of thousands of dollars in re-work.

so... this is the power of engineering.

[Anonymous No.9763237]

>>9763208
I did, now I work full-time

>>9763220
Nice, not being pants-on-head retarded will take you far in engineering. Not management, though

[Anonymous No.9763246]

>>9763237
why do foot fags always get the best artists?

[Anonymous No.9763279]

>>9763246
it's the best fetish.

[Anonymous No.9763389]

>>9755392
Another day at work.
>Coworker 1 cannot visualize cutting planes, imagining midpoints, or using curve projections in CAD
>Coworker 2 needs repeated hand-holding to the last "OK" button when creating a hole that goes through a piece of sheet metal

>Coworker 3: "How do you do this?"
>Me: "oh just click this button up here"
>Coworker 3: *Closes the fucking menu and proceeds to click on several other bullshit buttons I wasn't talking about"
Every fucking time

I'm just talking about button pushing BS right now, but god damn

[Anonymous No.9763392]

>>9763389
This is what happens when companoes hire based on GPA.

[Anonymous No.9763395]

>>9755581
lol that can't be true, I'm making $20 an hour in my data science internship

[Anonymous No.9763402]

>>9763237
>>9763151
>>9763174


fuck off retarded american weebtard

[Anonymous No.9763404]

>>9751113
EEs can't get machine learning jobs since they're literally all restricted to MS CS holders anyway

same with AI.

[Anonymous No.9763406]

Switching from EE to CS was the best decision I ever made desu

enjoy your no jobs EEfags

[Anonymous No.9763510]

>>9763406
Enjoy your monkey job

[Anonymous No.9763524]

>>9763188
3.9 during spring when I applied, 3.78 or 3.8 after due to skipping so many classes that I didnt even know when some tests were. Withdrew from a class that was too far gone to save and somehow got a good enough final grade in another for a C+ (irrelevant major course). Got an A in grad level laser course and a lab based on optics/photonics as they were the only courses I showed up to. History elective was easy but got a close A- for getting 50% on dumb attendance grade and missing a few quizzes. Uni is a midwestern state school that is not even ranked on QS for EE

[Anonymous No.9763535]

>>9763510
better than no job since EE is FUCKING DEAD

[Anonymous No.9763548]

>>9763535
t.
>2.178 gpa
>0 internships
>0 research
>0 jobs of any kind
>0 extracurriculars
>0 social/interview skills
>picked worse specialization possible for meaningful employment
>even the professord hate him

[Anonymous No.9763550]

>>9763548
-3.7 at UCLA which is okay
-no internships because there are none for EE. I knew 3 people out of mostly everyone in my classes who actually found internships, compared to 80% in my CS classes
-plenty of research
-no jobs since there are none
-plenty of extracurriculars
-good interview skills since I moved to CS since CS jobs are everywhere
-i picked power systems and I regret it
-professors liked me

[Anonymous No.9763551]

>>9763550
and EE is piss easy compared to CS honestly

boring fucking classes, too.

[Anonymous No.9763560]

>>9763550
When were you in EE? Everyone in my uni had at least one internship by graduation and it was probably ranked 150ish or so not that great. I went to PhD so admittedly I have no clue how the bachelord job market is, but again everyone I knew got a relevant job. Did you just apply to internships/jobs near you or some other dumbass shit?

[Anonymous No.9763567]

Man what the fuck do I do if I want to study CE but I absolutely suck at chemistry? I'm fine with math and physics but I don't want the chemistry shit nigger topic. I suck at it, I don't give a shit about it. I would go to CS but it's just a game/mobile dev degree at this point and I like computers, not programming.

[Anonymous No.9763592]

>>9763567
CE as in civil, computer, or chemical engineering? Not even chemical engineering uses chemistry that much in jobs

[Anonymous No.9763602]

>>9762416
It's definitely THE most interesting branch of EE. I'm just finishing up my thesis on UWB antenna arrays and it has been a soul crushing journey. Most of the time you don't know what's going on, and no one can help you.

Right now I'm glad I got a job in control engineering to cool down

[Anonymous No.9763606]

>>9763592
If you read the whole post maybe you could figure it out.

[Anonymous No.9763607]

Going into nuclear engineering undergrad next year, what to expect? The dean is a cool guy I hear.

[Anonymous No.9763609]

>>9763606
Math, physics, and chemistry were present in all those degrees at my undergrad uni and you can switch to CS from any major so fuck off brainlet

[Anonymous No.9763613]

>>9763609
You must be really retarded if you can't even figure it out from the last sentence.

[Anonymous No.9763618]

>>9763607
>NukeE: How many levels of unemployment are you on, bro?
>MechE: I dunno, like five or six?
>NukeE: You are like little babby. Watch this:
>*phases out nuclear power*

[Anonymous No.9763621]

>>9763618
>ontario
>phasing out nuclear power
nuclearlets pls leave

[Anonymous No.9763622]

>>9763613
>I would go to CS but it's just a game/mobile dev degree at this point and I like computers, not programming.
>implying this statement provides enough information for someone to know what CE stands for, even though many people like computers and not programming yet are in fields not even remotely related to something acronymized CE
Just pick any field, at this point you wont even make it

[Anonymous No.9763628]

>>9763622
I'm not asking for detective-tier deduction skills but maybe taking some autism pills will make it better.

[Anonymous No.9763631]

>>9763628
try not to fuck up your acronyms, m8. The longer you stay obtuse, the less any of us here are likely to answer

[Anonymous No.9763634]

>>9763621
>10GW
So then there's about 3-4 places you can work in all of Ontario. Hope they're hiring. :^)

[Anonymous No.9763654]

>>9763628
Not even him but I can't really tell which one you mean. Stop being autistic, clarify, and next time use the accepted and understood acronyms.

[Anonymous No.9764025]

>>9763406
You couldve switched to CE, had plenty of credits carry over, and still get jobs.

[Anonymous No.9764046]

>>9763392
t. GPAlet

It's what happens when they hire based on personal relationships

>>9763402
"no"

[Anonymous No.9764052]

>>9763535
>>EE
>dead

This must be either work of a mathfag and/or a total brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9764078]

>>9764052
except EE is pretty garbage right now

[Anonymous No.9764197]

>>9760991

>>9760991

>>9760991

Can anyone answer this?

[Anonymous No.9764224]

just finished my first year.. if i end up getting a first-class ee degree and no real internship experience, am i 100% positively screwed for life? no chance for a job?

this summer im going this short academic program in korea with a mobile technology course with an english teaching internship beforehand (which pays for my ticket and accomodation).. would employers even give a shit about that? should i bother doing shit like this if its not actual work experience?

[Anonymous No.9764228]

>>9764078
do you live in Zambia or something?

[Anonymous No.9764233]

>>9764197
>>9760991
how was that pic going to grab anyone's attention? dumb ass phone poster at least crop it

[Anonymous No.9764276]

>>9764224
have you ever played an MMO where theres a noob quest thats kind of long and a pain in the ass, but it gives you some sweet sword or something that will last you halfway to level cap? thats what an internship is. do you absolutely NEED it? no. should you get one? yes.

[Anonymous No.9764286]

>>9764078
>>9763535
I've been working on an ME minor (and potentially a masters) because people have been saying this. Will it help?

[Anonymous No.9764302]

How do I start caring about EE again? I'm no longer depressed but I still find it boring as shit. It really could just be the way my professors teach at this average research public Uni but I don't want to be that kid that blames everything on their instructors.

[Anonymous No.9764341]

why the FUCK are transistor's so complicated?

[Anonymous No.9764371]

>>9764341
Because you're the kind of person who thinks
>transistor's
is the plural of transistor.

[Anonymous No.9764396]

>>9764341
i finished my first year and i still dont know what it means for "one of the terminals to be common to the other two" or why thats necessary

im hopeless

[Anonymous No.9764409]

>>9764371
Fuck you, I finished with an A in that class anyways, but it was the most mind numbing shit I've had to deal with.

[Anonymous No.9764420]

>>9764409
i have the best grades in my class and consistently get the best test scores but i don't understand anything

even trying to understand simple iv characteristics is moon runes to me and it took me 6 months to understand pic related

[Anonymous No.9764476]

Good book for machine design theory? Not just the usual "this is a cam, this is a spring" but actual theory on what components to select and use and how to put everything together.

[Anonymous No.9764478]

>>9764224
It might be good as an experience to talk about, but probably wont be as valuable as an internship. Like the other person said: an internship isnt required to get a job at all, but it will certainly make it easier

[Anonymous No.9764502]

How the hell do you guys get an engineering degree without having done any internships?

Here at my uni you're REQUIRED to have done AT LEAST two internships to get your engineering degree.

[Anonymous No.9764532]

>>9764502
>apply to internships
>don't get an internship
Why is this so hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.9764536]

>>9764532
You seem to for get the part where he said that it's required before one can get a degree from wherever he is studying.

[Anonymous No.9764537]

>>9764502
>How the hell do you guys get an engineering degree without having done any internships?

easy. be a white male and go to a sub-top-10 engineering school and study any engie field that isn't computer or civil

for reference, 11% of my graduating class had internships under their belt. this is for EE

[Anonymous No.9764569]

Is EE /sci/'s new CS? Everyone's hating on it now.

[Anonymous No.9764596]

>>9764569
Interestingness and employability are not the same thing, as /sci/ is painfully finding out.

[Anonymous No.9764608]

>>9764596
If /sci/ ever gave a fuck about employability physics and math wouldn't be heralded as the best degrees here.

[Anonymous No.9764744]

>>9764596
Are you implying that EE is not interesting?

[Anonymous No.9764746]

>>9764569
EE is probably the most rigorous college program so that doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.9764812]

>>9764744
No, the opposite. It's interesting but there are no jobs.

[Anonymous No.9764850]

Is a Mechatronics a good BS? Was thinking of this or EE. Want to get into robotics, automation, AI. So I plan on taking CS classes on the side, but I don't care much about designing the physical aspects of the machine like the chassis

[Anonymous No.9764883]

>>9764850
If you don't care about the physical aspects why not just do CS?

[Anonymous No.9764914]

>>9764812
Just went on Indeed and the results say otherwise.

[Anonymous No.9764930]

>>9764850
Just do CS to Msc or Phd level then? EE and mechatronics are both much more physical, and sci meme hates on undergrad CS more than MSc or PhD level

[Anonymous No.9764935]

>>9764914
Shh let them spread the EE is dead meme so I can get jobs even easier

[Anonymous No.9764944]

>>9764883
>>9764930
I mean, I like the idea of working with cirtcuts and boards. Other parts of EE interest me to like frequencies. But I also love robotics and AI.

[Anonymous No.9764945]

>>9764812
Where do you live?

[Anonymous No.9764981]

>>9764945
>implying he's EE and has any experience in what he's talking about

[Anonymous No.9764984]

I just got a job as a "systems engineer" (didn't even know this was a thing until I applied for jobs). It's the gayest shit ever. Imagine doing having to look at acronyms all day and write 3 formulas in excel. I am getting so bored. Please help they barely give me any work and I always ask for more but what the actual fuck am I supposed to do at my desk for 9hours?

[Anonymous No.9764993]

>>9764984
ur legit getting paid to do nothing and complaining

download chess and learn that on ur comp when boss isnt looking or something

[Anonymous No.9764996]

>>9764944
then just do EE or CompE, they deal with robotics too.

[Anonymous No.9764998]

>>9764993
I sit right next to him.

[Anonymous No.9765001]

>>9764984
jack off to anime you fucking retard, what else?

[Anonymous No.9765018]

>>9764998
oh fuck

give him more work what r u paying him for you might as well just fire his ass n do the work urself rtard

[Anonymous No.9765020]

>>9764984
salary? education?

[Anonymous No.9765027]

>>9765020
I just got my physics B.S and this job, it's at a defense contractor. I asked someone if we use any math in our job and they said no. I make about $70k per year.

[Anonymous No.9765028]

>>9765027
>I asked someone if we use any math in our job and they said no. I make about $70k per year
the absolute state of engineering

[Anonymous No.9765038]

>>9764914
And how many years of experience for those jobs?

[Anonymous No.9765048]

>>9765038
most between 1-5

[Anonymous No.9765067]

>>9764984
On top of that, all the other engineers hate you since you're always putting holes in our shit. You've got it rough, but hey, easy money

[Anonymous No.9765105]

>>9764944
>like frequencies
Anon...

[Anonymous No.9765198]

>>9764984
>what the actual fuck am I supposed to do at my desk for 9hours?

study technical details. think about ways to make things better. invent. create. regardless of your job title or where you are in the company, your primary job as an engineer is to increase the bottom line and create value. is this a bit too open ended for you?

[Anonymous No.9765215]

>>9765198
Can I just be fucking around reading textbooks at my desk?

[Anonymous No.9765346]

>>9765198
I am not him but, when you work at defense contractors, sometimes they have a system in place to "increase productivity and accountability" where you have to log your hours that you work on certain projects. Typically you do what needs to be done then move on to the next project that requires your skillset. Kinda shitty way to do things but it takes the innovation aspect and shifts it to the government agency responsible for dishing out contracts.

[Anonymous No.9765364]

>>9765048
So do you have 1-5 years of experience? If not, then there are no jobs.

[Anonymous No.9765411]

>>9765346
Yes that is literally exactly what I have to do. We must log our hours with the project we're on. And we only ever work on one project at once.

[Anonymous No.9765469]

>>9764420
The absolute state of modern education.

[Anonymous No.9765472]

>>9764984
buy some textbooks of topics that interest you and study them when work gets slow

[Anonymous No.9765666]

>>9764984
You fucked up. System architect is the one you want

[Anonymous No.9765861]

>>9763279
no thats ss and facesitting pls stop posting

[Anonymous No.9765994]

>>9765861
>ss
fit or pol style?

[Anonymous No.9766027]

>>9765994
GOSMAD
Gallon Of Shota Milk A Day

[Anonymous No.9766109]

>>9765364
But that's how it is for just about every industry today. You're supposed to apply to those jobs anyway.