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>Abstract: A double-slit optical system was used to test the possible role of consciousness in the collapse of the quantum wavefunction. The ratio of the interference pattern’s double-slit spectral power to its single-slit spectral power was predicted to decrease when attention was focused toward the double slit as compared to away from it. Each test session consisted of 40 counterbalanced attention-toward and attention-away epochs, where each epoch lasted between 15 and 30 s. Data contributed by 137 people in six experiments, involving a total of 250 test sessions, indicate that on average the spectral ratio decreased as predicted (z=-4:36, p=6·10-6). Another 250 control sessions conducted without observers present tested hardware, software, and analytical procedures for potential artifacts; none were identified (z=0:43, p=0:67). Variables including temperature, vibration, and signal drift were also tested, and no spurious influences were identified. By contrast, factors associated with consciousness, such as meditation experience, electrocortical markers of focused attention, and psychological factors including openness and absorption, significantly correlated in predicted ways with perturbations in the double-slit interference pattern. The results appear to be consistent with a consciousness-related interpretation of the quantum measurement problem

http://deanradin.com/evidence/Radin2012doubleslit.pdf

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>>9735670
So thinking about something has a physical effect on the environment? Would you consider this psychic or magic?

>> No.9735698

>>9735670
>Dean Radin's double slit experiment
It's bullshit anon.

>> No.9735701

>>9735698
His methodology is rock solid

>> No.9735812

>>9735701
No.
This experiment was also done multiple times and the results have been statistically negative.

>> No.9735833

>>9735812
>No.
Very convincing.

>> No.9735838

>>9735833
But you ignore 50% of that posters post

>> No.9735840

>>9735838
He didn't provide any evidence at all. He just said "No" and then made a statement not backed up by anything. Do you think that's convincing?

>> No.9735851

>>9735840
Double slit experiment interference pattern does not depend on anyone actually knowing or looking at the particle which-way information.
If you don't even know this and think OP's link is convincing, you're just dumb.

>> No.9735852

>>9735670
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/7DmA3yWwa6AT5jFXt/zombies-redacted

>> No.9735854

>>9735851
Just the fact someone *can* ever know the information makes the pattern disappear.

>> No.9735859

>>9735851
>Double slit experiment interference pattern does not depend on anyone actually knowing or looking at the particle which-way information.
Yeah it does. They performed a double slit experiment with a detector in place but with no magenetic tape recording the data (The head was moving but had nothing to record to). An interference pattern formed. The pattern changes based on whether observers have access to which way information, this has been conclusively proven

>> No.9735868

>>9735859
You're wrong, look at some other similar experiments sometime instead of just this one.

>> No.9735874

>>9735868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW6Mq352f0E

Go to 2:50

>> No.9735878

>>9735874
>Consciousness the Endless Frontier
Sorry, I don't buy it, there have been hundreds of experiments done and they reported exactly the opposite.

>> No.9736495

Language in all it's forms cannot describe the totality of existence and materialism as we understand it is false.

>> No.9736564

Of course consciousness collapses the wave function. It's just not the only thing that does.

>> No.9736625

>>9736564
consciousness has nothing to do with it, any interaction with the particles from where the which-way information can be extracted ruins the pattern

>> No.9736673

>>9735859
OK now do it with the tape and without any conscious observers (already been done a million times). You get the same result. Therefore consciousness has nothing to do with it.

>> No.9736688

Decoherence shows that this guy is wrong. Almost anything can cause wavefunction collapse.

>> No.9736691

>>9735670
>confirmed
>2012

There isn’t magic in the double slit experiment. If the wave function is allowed to pass through the double slit, it creates an interference pattern. If you actually try to measure what is happening at either slit, you create a “pause” pattern.

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>>9736673
The smartest man who ever lived disagrees

>> No.9737750

>>9737740
yeah well we survived the nuclear age so what does he know