/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.9729926]

Whoa

[Anonymous No.9729935]

Intelligence is linked to race, Niggers are 70.000 years away genetically from Caucasoids and Asians. To deny differentiation in intelligence is to literally deny evolution.

[Anonymous No.9729938]

From Wikipedia:

> On the issue of obesity, Watson was quoted in 2000, saying: "Whenever you interview fat people, you feel bad, because you know you're not going to hire them."

I like this guy.

[Anonymous No.9729948]

>124 IQ
what's your excuse, /sci/?

[Anonymous No.9729952]

>>9729948
you're*

[Anonymous No.9729962]

>>9729952
Fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.9729965]

leftists love to say how much they love science and empirical evidence based approaches to interpreting reality

until you empirically examine something they don't like and then they attack your livelihood publicly like a maoist struggle session

[Anonymous No.9729968]

>>9729962

[Anonymous No.9729971]

2014

[Anonymous No.9729972]

>>9729938
If he actually said this, this is how you know this man is a reliable source of information and completely unbiased. People who defend this crap are embarrassing. Its also worth pointing out he is rumoured to have either plagiarised or taken significantly too much credit on his DNA work. May or may not be true, but if he is the type of person to do this crap, is it REALLY that God damn hard to believe?

[Anonymous No.9730074]

>>9729948
>>9729952
>What is you are excuse?

[Anonymous No.9730076]

>>9729972
found the lardwhale.

[Anonymous No.9730081]

>>9729965
>leftists love to say how much they love science and empirical evidence based approaches to interpreting reality
>until you empirically examine something they don't like and then they attack your livelihood publicly like a maoist struggle session

It's fucking infuriating.

[Anonymous No.9730083]

white boi deserved it.

[Anonymous No.9730084]

>>9730074

[Anonymous No.9730438]

>>9729972
Okay Fattie McGee

[Anonymous No.9730888]

>>9729938
Noice.

[Anonymous No.9730901]

>>9729972
Let's not even go into his character, the discovery that got him the prize was THE STRUCTURE OF DNA. The distribution of alleles in different human populations and their effect on phenotypes may take as a working assumption that DNA has the structure described by Watson and Crick, but that's surely as far as the connection between the field where he was (deservedly) awarded a Nobel prize and the field where he wants to use the prestige of a Nobel prize to carry his latter ideas goes.

[Anonymous No.9730910]

>go senile and spout bunch of nonsense
>"why does nobody respect me now?"

I'm all for society taking care of old people but they are pretty much useless.

[Anonymous No.9730912]

>>9730910
>a bunch of nonsense
He just said blacks were on average dumber than whites, which is a scientific fact.

[Anonymous No.9730920]

>>9730910
>le empirical science is only in the right when the results fit my political agenda
retard

[Anonymous No.9730930]

>He has also suggested that beauty could be genetically engineered, saying in 2003, "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would be great."

[Anonymous No.9730940]

>>9729938
Based

[Anonymous No.9730995]

>>9729926
>Claimed that happiness is linked to melanin. His proof: A picture of Kate Moss looking sad

[Anonymous No.9731132]

>>9730912
Papers about it?

[Anonymous No.9731168]

lel he sold it for 4.8 mil $

[Anonymous No.9731199]

>>9731132
>sauce? sauce? you got a sauce for that?
go to any nigger ghetto and you'll get a lot of empirical evidence first hand.

[Anonymous No.9731211]

>>9731199
What about a trailer park?

[Anonymous No.9731213]

>>9731132
the literature about this are not hard to find. and there's a fucking LOT of it.

[Anonymous No.9731221]

>>9731132
You won't find anything else than iq pseudoscience.

Yet some schizos keep forcing this in every single board.

You know I'm right.

[Anonymous No.9731247]

>>9731199
Then I guess that in ghettos white people stick out for intelligence a great deal. Like, in a statistically significant way that could be measured and be published about.

[Anonymous No.9731268]

>>9731221
>Yet some schizos keep forcing this in every single board.
The US government and every educational institutional institution worth a damn also "keep forcing" IQ, since it is - contrary to your false claims - confirmed to be an empirically accurate and useful measurement of cognitive capacity.

Telling the LEO/military/corporate recruiter that your retard-tier SAT/ACT/ASVAB/etc. score doesn´t matter will provide him/her with a good laugh.

[Anonymous No.9731273]

watson needs to start working on his stand up game.

think he would make a good science comedian.
just enough edge to make people anxiously laugh.

[Anonymous No.9731282]

>>9729972
>"Oh shit he was rumored to have either done two completely different things and he's a mean person well that's all the evidence I need"
It's honestly sad that you thought anyone would think like this lardo.

[Anonymous No.9731283]

>>9731213
Where can one get started, then?

[Anonymous No.9731286]

>>9731221
Meta report on IQ analysis by race?
Study on the population posting "iq pseudoscience"?
if not try >>>/pol/ .

[Anonymous No.9731757]

>>9729938
Everyone has negative associations with fat people, not just employers, but no one is able to admit that like this guy.

[Anonymous No.9731762]

>>9729972
I could feel hear your five fat fingers typing and your triple chin moving up and down as you show shove cheetoes in your face with the other hand

[Anonymous No.9731764]

>>9729926
Yeah liberals just couldn't handle race realism. Not sure why

[Anonymous No.9731767]

Big news: Words have consequences

[Anonymous No.9731771]

>>9731767
Yeah, fuck words.
Everyone, let's never say anything ever again.

[Anonymous No.9731776]

>>9731771
Strawman.

[Anonymous No.9731777]

>>9731767
Not words in particular. Just overly emotionally invested liberals defending all the poor negroes force those consequences for irrational reasons.

[Anonymous No.9731779]

>>9729926
How DARE a scientist consider an unpopular theory... we must NEVER EVER EVER look at race scientifically. It is far BETTER that we forbid all studies into racial differences in intelligence.
If black children fail to reach set academic goals then we must CHANGE the academic goals!

Fuck! I despise liberal progressives and their fake openness to ideas.

[Anonymous No.9731781]

>>9731247
Theu do. But it would be much easier to take a child from each situation and raise them in the others house hold with another child of the original race and see if there's a discrepancy.

Oh wait they did.

[Anonymous No.9731786]

>>9731777
The details and ideology of the people who were offended is irrelevant. The fact is, people were offended so they didn't want to associate with him.

[Anonymous No.9731787]

>>9731779
Triple strawman in the first line, not bad.

[Anonymous No.9731801]

>>9731786
Your point? While OP didn't state what this thread was about, I though all of this is discussion is all about who's side is /sci/ taking and was he shunned unjustly?

If I'm taking his side, then I can make the point he was shunned for irrational reasons, thus making my case for supporting this guy stronger.

It's like we're having a completely different discussion. You seem to venture out into a less precise territory than what the topic at hand should be about, imo.

You're saying: "Words have consequences, end of story"
I'm saying: "His words had consequences but were those consequences justified"

[Anonymous No.9731802]

>>9731786
It's only irrelevant if there isn't a pattern of it.
The only people exercising this kind of cultural exile behaviour are islamists and the modern left. The right has shifted toward the left on a lot of issues (gay marriage, drugs and even abortion to some extent as it's basically untouched with 2 houses and a republican president) where as the left has only gotten more extreme while practicing the worst kind of what they themselves call "tribal" behaviour.
Every time, it's the left calling for moderation from both sides of the aisle. Every time, it's the left shifting more towards the left. That nobody is batting an eye at the democratic party's current message of "impeach trump" after the birth certificate movement against the previous (democratic) administration is disgusting, and I hope people like you stop defending this kind of behaviour using the traditional european approach of double standards until everyone forgets about it.

[Anonymous No.9731815]

>>9731801
We can argue all day about whether they were justified but, being the extremely controversial topic that it is, the discussion would probably go nowhere. And /sci/ isn't really the place to discuss political issues anyway.

[Anonymous No.9731818]

>>9729926
What if intelligence had a genetic component?

[Anonymous No.9731820]

>>9729926

Can anyone show ONE intelligence test where blacks perform BETTER than whites or Asians.. just ONE!

[Anonymous No.9731825]

>>9731815
Well, /sci/ probably has more of a grasp on biology than /pol/

[Anonymous No.9731828]

>>9731815
if you're closed to the possibility of discussion, why bother replying at all?

[Anonymous No.9731840]

>>9731820
You can't ask this question because IQ tests were racist about decades ago. And if I learned anything from our liberal overlords is that if a thing was racist in the past it will remain racist in the future, no matter what changes. You know, those forever-racist things like the justice system, capitalism and white people.

[Anonymous No.9731849]

>>9731199
I bet you have loads of empirical evidence from the ghetto considering you go there to prep the bull.

[Anonymous No.9731852]

>>9731199
It's crazy that the poster shitting on blacks the most made the most low IQ post in the thread. Really unbelievable, yep, almost surreal, yep.
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.9731857]

>>9731840

Yes.. being called racist is impossible to counter argue against. And when someone then claims that they will not listen to the arguments of a racist, you can not "win".
Noticing ANY differences among the races is "racist". Medical researchers have to carefully consider is it even worth researching if a drug behaves differently with different races. It is better "politically" to just assume African, Europeans, Native Americans, and Asians are all identical.
Note Europeans are generally lactose tolerant and Africans are not, so making a creamy dairy based drug would be OK for Europeans, but not so for Africans.

[Anonymous No.9731860]

>Different population groups will have different genetic frequencies some of which will be genes that affect intelligence
Why is this so hard for people to accept? This isn't the same as being racist, it's just accepting a fact which should be obvious to anyone who understands even basic genetics.

[Anonymous No.9731878]

>TFW most biologists (including professors I have talked to) know that different populations have different genetic frequencies but wont straight up say what that means unless talking to another fellow biologist using specific terminology
>TFW /pol/ is so fucking stupid that I can't call myself a racial realist without getting lumped in with them
For example I had a great conversation with my professor about average Jewish IQ and how it is over a standard deviation above the mean and how a small population with a bottleneck is likely the cause of said IQ increase.

[Anonymous No.9731885]

>>9731860
The problem comes in when the people who have a deeply held believe that everybody is equal encounter conflicting information.

Everybody is hit with mild cognitive dissonance once in a while but they readjust their beliefs to keep their values consistent with reality. But this is a little a different.

I believe that is the case because so many political ideologies (mostly left wing) rely on people being unequal unjustly and that there's something that can be done about it. So, it becomes really hard for them to accept information that dictates that races (the races of all things!) are unequal justly (if you consider nature just) and that there's very little that can be done about it.

[Anonymous No.9731886]

>>9729926
>2014
>he sells it
>they guy who bought it gave it back

[Anonymous No.9731899]

>>9731885
Nature is not just, and it can be altered. This has been the entire reason we use technology.

[Anonymous No.9731906]

>>9731885
This is why I hate politics. It's basically a fake exercise that in no way has to reflect reality.
>It's a known fact that some people have genetic advantages or disadvantages
>it's also a known fact that women have lower variance in IQ which explains at least in part why women make up a lower percentage of the hard science fields
>NO IT MUST BE SEXISM DESPITE THE FACT THAT NO ACTUAL DATA SUPPORTS THIS CLAIM
Conservatives aren't better but at least they don't try to change science, just not believe it.

[Anonymous No.9731911]

>>9731885
>and that there's something that can be done about it

Common Core's ONE main idea is to figure out a way to remove racial differences in Academic performance. It is NOT to educate the best way possible, liberal progressives ARE willing to have the ENTIRE population's average Academic score decease, provided racial differences disappear.

[Anonymous No.9731915]

>>9731899
>it can be altered
Then what's the problem? Surely, if intelligence can be altered to a significant degree, there would not be a problem and such a taboo around this IQ and race thing. Every race that is behind on cognitive abilities, should just use technology to catch up.

What you're saying by and large is not the case. The technology just is not there yet and probably will not be for a quite a while.

[Anonymous No.9731923]

>>9731915
>, if intelligence can be altered to a significant degree,

What you are suggesting is that we inject Asian and White DNA into Blacks? This is called race mixing and liberal progressive are pushing this VERY hard on white people.

[Anonymous No.9731937]

>>9731923
>hat you are suggesting is that we inject Asian and White DNA into Blacks
Not that anon but I see nothing wrong with this idea. Just don't call it "White DNA" and use to on anyone who is genetically disadvantaged so that way people will be ok with it.

[Anonymous No.9731946]

>>9731923
Even for a sarcastic comment that's a bit of a stretch. But sure, intelligence can be altered greatly. Just get all the smart people hit their head against a wall enough times, and each individual person will become completely equal to another just like in some social justice utopia.

[Anonymous No.9731975]

>>9731937
>Just don't call it "White DNA"

well if we want the genes for intelligence we will have to get them from intelligent people.

[Anonymous No.9731994]

>>9731975
Asians and jews are smarter than whites, but nice try

[Anonymous No.9732038]

>>9731860
>if facts hurt my feelings, they should be ignored
this is the root of all politicized faggotry

[Anonymous No.9732046]

>>9732038
>>if facts hurt my feelings, they should be ignored

And if you are a scientist and insist on showing the facts then you should be ignored, and shunned, and fired!, for DARING to try to support an idea that would hurt my feelings.

[Anonymous No.9732075]

>>9731268
>confirmed to be an empirically accurate and useful measurement of cognitive capacity.
source?

[Anonymous No.9732102]

>>9731994
But its whites who were responsible for the industrial revolution, there is something about whites, along with their IQ,that made them essentially dominate the world after 1500s. So sorry, stop downplaying whites, this race is responsible for the industrial and scientific revolution, and changing the face of the Earth, and this all started in Western Europe. Its almost like, shock and surprise, there are more then. JUST IQ differences between the races, but even behavioral traits too.

Makes sense, when you think about races, its not just intelligence that people have been quick to note, behavior comes up too.

Indeed, thats probably why people would want White DNA in the first place.

[Anonymous No.9732106]

>>9732102
>JUST IQ differences between the races, but even behavioral traits too.

But that is like saying different dog breeds differ in intelligence and behave even if they are the SAME species. SHOCKING!!!!

[Anonymous No.9732206]

>>9731915
>What you're saying by and large is not the case. The technology just is not there yet and probably will not be for a quite a while.

That' fine, but it will be there.

> Surely, if intelligence can be altered to a significant degree, there would not be a problem and such a taboo around this IQ and race thing.

Yes, it being taboo is stupid.

Perhaps why it is considered taboo by and large is lack of understanding of correlative matrices. Consider someone who is aware of the reality that the average black IQ is less than the average white IQ. But, they then use it to justify opinions which have no basis in that reality. The exact cause of such a difference is not know.

[Anonymous No.9732217]

>>9732102
You are completely ignoring geographical proximity and its non significant role in the spread and discourse of knowledge. Europe and China have throughout history been extremely population dense, it comes as no surprise that they have produced more ideas than say some subterranean African country. Why? Because Africa is way more fucking huge than most people realize.

It should also be noted that the world would in fact be very different if not for a certain Chinese emperor closing off the empire and rescinding its efforts to expand and explore.

[Anonymous No.9732230]

>>9730912
Of which he has not published anything in saying. But hey newton was an alchemist so lets throw all of chemistry in the dumpster. Oh tesla said theory of relativity was a sham. Lets start believing tesla now.
The absolute state of pol brainlets i swear...

[Anonymous No.9732249]

>Man turned into pariah for telling the truth
Even science is a joke now.

[Anonymous No.9732482]

>2014
how all of you fags so new?

[Anonymous No.9732489]

>>9729972

This dude ripped off some intern girl

[Anonymous No.9732515]

>>9729926
Nobel Prizes don't have much value now anyway.

[Anonymous No.9732666]

>>9731283
google my fellow dark skinned homosapien

[Anonymous No.9732701]

>>9731787
>projecting

[Anonymous No.9732720]

>>9731767
Freedom from government, goy! It doesn't matter if speech vigilantes silence you and cause the same effect!

[Anonymous No.9732725]

>>9731852
Man don't perpetuate this "hurr high/low IQ posts" shit, /pol/luters take that shit seriously and start thinking you're actually validating them.

[Anonymous No.9732729]

>>9732701
What does "projecting" mean to you, anon?

[Anonymous No.9732879]

>>9731199
I agree as a black guy observation is enough to discern the average intelligence of many blacks, to date there hasn't even been a single successful black government without the aid of whites. Seeing how there is a direct correlation between intelligence and success.... well I don't really need to spell it out.

[Anonymous No.9732885]

>>9731779
My main gripe isn't even with leftists/sjw( Even though they are completely terrible), its with the fact that the scientific has a backwards dogma of if they don't like what your saying you'll get shot down regardless of if its true or not. For instance if I were to find a new form of energy that actually works, but nobody but me is willing to replicate my experiments, then to the whole of the scientific community/society im just seen as a fraud or insane...

[Anonymous No.9732897]

>>9732879

Define "successful" because Nigeria achieving the best economy in Africa when Egypt, apartheid aided South Africa and Ethopia exist is still an accomplishment.

[Anonymous No.9732931]

>>9732879
Botswana my chilf.

[Anonymous No.9732939]

>>9732217
>Because Africa is way more fucking huge than most people realize.

Here's some food for thought, Congo is the size of continental West Europe more or less.

[Anonymous No.9732942]

>>9731911
That's not what common core is.

[Anonymous No.9732945]

He does say alot of stupid shit like

>While speaking at a conference in 2000, Watson had suggested a link between skin color and sex drive, hypothesizing that dark-skinned people have stronger libidos. His lecture argued that extracts of melanin – which gives skin its color – had been found to boost subjects' sex drive. "That's why you have Latin lovers," he said, according to people who attended the lecture. "You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English Patient.

[Anonymous No.9732970]

>>9732945
There is nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.9732981]

>>9731221
iq isn't pseudoscience it was used as a measure of ability for a person to do basic tasks in the military. It was found out that anyone below 80iq was found to be incapable of doing the most basic of tasks which the black population's mean lies very close to. So even if it is not a complete measure of intelligence, it still shows that the majority of blacks are incapable of doing shit a monkey can be trained to do.

[Anonymous No.9733000]

>>9731820
I've never seen a response to this. Or even an attempt at a response.

[The Lord No.9733011]

In his comment, "especially if you ever dealt with a black employee," how does he separate the black employee who is retarded from the black employee who has a bad attitude and is just being a little bitch?

[Anonymous No.9733012]

>>9732945
just some harmless off the cuff idea that's worth looking into like you see in every field.

[Anonymous No.9733013]

>>9730930
Everything this man says is gold.

[Anonymous No.9733015]

>>9733013
Melanin is more valuable than gold honky.

[Anonymous No.9733030]

>Getting offended that someone is suggesting something might be true

[Anonymous No.9733042]

>>9733012
That shit is harmful as fuck though especially if others buy into it since it's a stereotype that was (and still is) used to denigrate darker people.

[Anonymous No.9733045]

>>9733042
Denigrate abd dehumanize them to horrible degrees.

[Anonymous No.9733059]

>>9733042
And if the hypothesis were true? Being a stereotype doesn't preclude it from being true.

[Anonymous No.9733065]

cry to someone who cares, /pol/

>>9729935
>Ability to synthesize lysine is linked to race, Niggers are 70.000 years away genetically from Caucasoids and Asians. To deny differentiation in lysine synthesis is to literally deny evolution.
see how stupid you sound?

[Anonymous No.9733074]

>>9733065
what he said was a gross oversimplification of the position but your response still managed to make you look dumber than him

[Anonymous No.9733077]

>>9733065
Your picture is self-referential.

[Anonymous No.9733131]

>>9733074
>gross oversimplification
that's a funny way to say
>completely detached from how evolution actually works

if genetic distance inevitably leads to divergence in all traits, explain why sub-Saharan Africans and Caucasian Europeans both have the same ability (or rather, lack thereof) to synthesize lysine?

[Anonymous No.9733140]

>thread about a guy who published research on the connection between race and intelligence
>over 100 posts and none of them include published research on the connection between race and intelligence

I guess it's my fault for thinking a thinly-veiled /pol/ thread would discuss actual science.

[Anonymous No.9733145]

>>9733131
You can't read, bye.

[Anonymous No.9733165]

He got that prize by stealing Rosalind Franklin's work.

Is crick dead btw?

[Anonymous No.9733169]

>>9732945
>"You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English Patient."

[Anonymous No.9733191]

>>9731878
>Jewish IQ and how it is over a standard deviation above the mean
It´s not a standard deviation above the white mean.; half, at most, according to very "optimistic" estimates.

[Anonymous No.9733269]

>>9733145
not an argument :^)

[Anonymous No.9733361]

>>9733042
>denigrate darker people
kek

[Anonymous No.9733578]

>>9732897
>Nigeria
Maybe you're right
>Egypt
Coptics and sandniggers aren't black
>South Africa
Literally built by whites
>Ethiopia
Ethiopia is much older than even most European countries.

[Anonymous No.9733596]

>>9732879
>to date there hasn't even been a single successful black government without the aid of whites
There have been many, historically. But industrialism came late to Africa, and caught it with its pants down and a white guy raping its ass, so naturally such a late, rapid development isn't gonna immediately result in a bunch of cultures as equipped to handle such wealth as well as nations and cultures that have centuries of slow and painful developments to reach the point where they are now. These early industrialized countries also had the benefit of not having foreign powers already extracting much of their natural resources.

[Anonymous No.9733606]

>>9731911
>being this malnourished of intelligence
Here, have a (you)

[Anonymous No.9733817]

>>9733596
Touche, but I do wonder how Africa would've developed without the intervention of foreigners, that and if Africa had unifying factors like Europe had with Christianity, and the Chinese with their emperors. ..

[Anonymous No.9733833]

>>9729938
based

[Anonymous No.9733836]

>>9731787
Its actually something argued a lot, that studies into race and IQ shouldnt happen.

[Anonymous No.9733839]

>>9733012
just like the idea that gender is a spectrum right? totally harmless when some leftist professors push an agenda disguised as science?

[Anonymous No.9733841]

>>9732102
WE

[Anonymous No.9733847]

>>9730930
>>9733013
>>9729938
just give him a youtube channel and a patreon

[Anonymous No.9733865]

>>9730930
Where is the lie? (Aware that this is a complaint when coming from a liberal.)

[Anonymous No.9733867]

>>9732942
>>9733606
This is a science board. Posts like this have to be bots, or complete idiots. I saw this all the time in the flat earth thread. Tons of disparaging shaming comments with ZERO evidence supporting their ideas (which should be incredibly easy to provide because the stance they are taking is shaming because the idea should be evident). If the earth is round or common core is so great and its so obvious, say two fucking lines to prove it. If you can't, you are an idiot dumber than the person you are criticizing.

[Anonymous No.9733869]

>>9731906
You put your finger on why libtards are so unctious. They're not content to just do their thing. It has to become everyone else's things in all ways, with no end point.

[Anonymous No.9733873]

>>9732106
We're all the mammal race

[Anonymous No.9733879]

Which is the smartest dachshund race?

[Anonymous No.9733911]

>>9733879
the one on the middle has smart eyes, not sure if he's a still retard though

[Anonymous No.9733923]

>>9731885
These problem arise when people start to view themselves through group identity. People that do this, view their group as one body, and view themselves as the head of that body.
Everything bad that is done to the body is experienced by the head. When black criminals are jailed, innocent blacks (that do group think) feel like they are being punished for nothing. Women being less likely to become scientist means that individual women are "less scientist".
You could say that they view life as a video game, and groups as playable factions.
"Equality" means balancing the game so that each faction is equally viable.
True equality would be to reduce the meaning of faction to zero, and to start judging each character individually instead.

[Anonymous No.9733956]

>>9733042
>harmful
All science is harmful faggot
Galileo ripped Europe apart and Darwin gave us social Darwinism
It's a profoundly sick endeavour which is why we MUST CONTINUE
This is the objectionable thing about libtards again. I don't have to worry about conservatives preventing me from practicing religion how I want. I do have to worry about libtards clamping down on science.

[Anonymous No.9733984]

>>9733956
Not to mention weapons.

[Anonymous No.9733995]

>>9733841
WUZ UBERMENSCH N SHEEEEIT

[Anonymous No.9733997]

>>9729972
I appreciate your subtlety and nuance.

[Anonymous No.9734024]

>>9733995
I didn't know Rich Evans was a holocaust survivor.

[Anonymous No.9734033]

Watson has repeatedly supported genetic screening and genetic engineering in public lectures and interviews, arguing that stupidity is a disease and the "really stupid" bottom 10% of people should be cured.[89] He has also suggested that beauty could be genetically engineered, saying in 2003, "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would be great."
this guy is pretty cool.
it's pretty frustrating that he says the truth and what everybody thinks and knows to be real, then he gets shat on for saying it.
what a shitty world we live in.

[Anonymous No.9734061]

>>9734033
Obesity is the first problem that needs to be adressed. If talking about obesity as a disease can not be done, how can you expect to accomplish these other goals.

[Anonymous No.9734068]

>>9733995

[Anonymous No.9734069]

>>9729938
I literally don't get it. Why wouldn't you hire a fat person, why is anyone responding with based other than to seem edgy lmao

[Anonymous No.9734097]

>>9734069
fat fingers typed this post

[Anonymous No.9734124]

>>9734069
fat people are fat because they have no self respect or drive to get thin, plus they are dumb as shit. the only smart fat guy i can think of is Ed Balls

[Anonymous No.9734129]

you know this man is right when they promote sjw science on msm and interest trolls into defending sjw's.

[Anonymous No.9734131]

>>9734069
Fatties btfo.

[Anonymous No.9734134]

>>9734069
one probably thinks that they lazy, if he doesn't take his personal heathy seriously why would he take his job seriously? that's my assumption, but personally i wouldn't hesitate to hire a fat person.

[Anonymous No.9734311]

>>9733065
What are you crying about nigger? Yes, lysine is an essential amino acid. How does that disprove that intelligence developed differently in different populations that are exposed to different selection pressures?

Every time when a nigger is faced with the facts he starts crying pol, but never a real argument comes into play.

[Anonymous No.9734336]

>>9731199
I see you have never taken a middle school level science class, because you have absolutely no idea how to conduct an experiment

[Anonymous No.9734601]

>>9734311
So you're saying that despite two populations being exposed to different selection pressures, some traits (say, strongly conserved ones vital to that organism's life habit) remain the same in both populations?
Interesting.

>/pol/acks can't explain why sub-Saharan Africa and Europe would select differently for intelligence
>inb4 muh seasonality

[Anonymous No.9734816]

>>9734601
Yes, but intelligence isn't one of those traits. Most monkeys are fucking stupid, but intelligence isn't necessarily a big factor for their survival. Being quick to climb however, is. Also, a gene that encodes for an amino acid, which is missing all animal life, isn't suddenly going to appear when you turn into a nigger, so don't be stupid please.

You keep implying I'm some pol guy or something, but its laughably obvious you really have nothing substantial to refute by claims. Disappoint.

[Anonymous No.9734882]

>>9731767
Big news : emotion and ideology shouldn't interfere with science.

[Anonymous No.9735002]

>>9729972
fuck off fattie

[Anonymous No.9735011]

>>9734097
>>9734124
>>9734131
>>9734134
I'm thin.

[Anonymous No.9735021]

>>9735011
but are you slim?

[Anonymous No.9735203]

>>9734816
>intelligence isn't a trait vital to the life habit of humans
o I am laffin

>a unique biosynthetic pathway isn't going to arise de novo in a group of organisms that didn't have it before
this is literally how organisms evolve new biochemicals

>when you turn into a nigger
you literally just posted a figure showing that it's the other way around

>its laughably obvious you really have nothing substantial to refute by claims
Danth's Law applies?

Literally all you have to say is that genetic distance between two populations directly implies that they will have diverged in all traits...except for the traits which you arbitrarily think might be conserved. And naturally you are unable to explain why intelligence wouldn't be conserved; you immediately resort to proof by repetition. Amusing, but not impressive.

[Anonymous No.9735349]

>>9735011
having a thin penis doesn't make you thin

[Anonymous No.9735693]

>>9734601
>implying IQ differences are hard to explain
A warmer, more forgiving climate ripe with fruit, game and arable land does not place the same emphasis on creative problem solving as does a cold, unforgiving climate lacking in food and arable land. You´d have to be a literal retard not to recognize this obvious hypothesis as a plausible explanation for the (scientifically proven) IQ difference among races.

[Anonymous No.9735695]

>>9735203
>And naturally you are unable to explain why intelligence wouldn't be conserved
>>9735693

[Anonymous No.9735715]

>>9735693
>when cornered to source his claims, notice how the pollack resorts to useless prax. This is an evolutionary strategy to distract /his/ from the fact that he has no causal link for what he is trying to say

[Anonymous No.9735717]

>>9735715
eh /sci/ close enough

[Anonymous No.9735721]

>>9735203
Intelligence isn't vital for human survival. Ever noticed how many low IQ people can survive just fine (i.e. (You)). Also, an organism who suddenly got a mutation to produce new proteins should have a lineage of relatives who have at least a partial encoding for the protein. So, show me where those relatives are regarding your lysine example and also how that's related to intelligence. You still haven't made that analogy the least bit relevant.

>turning into a nigger
It was a joke, you literal sperg.

>invoking Danth's Law implies the other lost
>this implies you won
>but this invokes Danth's law onto yourself
Guess you lost, brainlet.

>genetic distance between populations directly implies they have diverged in all traits
I haven't claimed this at all.

>>9735715
Its a fair hypothesis. Can you disprove it instead of resorting to nonsensical shitposting?

[Anonymous No.9735745]

>>9734882
Tell that to the guy in the OP

[Anonymous No.9735746]

>>9735721
What's there to disprove? You aren't even saying anything that could be proved, it's just wild conjecture. I could argue that the lack of a fertile growing season, navigable waterways, abundance of crippling diseases, and harmful climactic shifts have adversely affected affected civilizational development and that as these barriers have been lowered due to modern technology we've seen a drastic improvement in African IQ, but what's the point? This is intellectual Calvinball.

[Anonymous No.9735753]

>>9735203
An IQ difference between groups doesn't require new genetic material. A difference in frequency can easily explain such differences.

[Anonymous No.9735761]

[Anonymous No.9735762]

[Anonymous No.9735765]

[Anonymous No.9735766]

[Anonymous No.9735767]

[Anonymous No.9735770]

>>9735693
>A warmer, more forgiving climate ripe with fruit, game and arable land does not place the same emphasis on creative problem solving as does a cold, unforgiving climate lacking in food and arable land.
If you think warmer = more forgiving, you should probably neck yourself. While most of Europe may have harsher winters than most of Africa, the dry seasons in sub-Saharan Africa is just as much of a challenge to survive from a hunter-gatherer perspective.
As for the availability of prey, central African game animals tend to be both larger and faster than those found in Europe. And no, the savannas and rainforests of the continent do not have fruit dangling off every branch like you seem to think; just like anywhere else with lots of grazing/browsing predation, physical and chemical defenses are common, and fruits are smaller and less nutritious than modern (domesticated) tropical fruits.

Yours is the response stormfags always come up with, and it's based in a delusional misunderstanding of African physiography. It's a literal made-up story, and yet it's the only attempt at an explanation they have. Ah well, they're nothing if not predictable.

>scientifically proven
say it all you like if it makes you feel better

[Anonymous No.9735775]

>>9735770

[Anonymous No.9735792]

>>9735721
>Intelligence isn't vital for human survival.
That's not what I said, you brainlet.
Even if a trait isn't strictly required for survival, it can be vital enough to an organism's life habit to be strongly selected for and therefore conserved. If you knew literally the first thing about evolution, you'd know that it's not about being able to survive as it is having a competitive advantage against others.

>an organism who suddenly got a mutation to produce new proteins should have a lineage of relatives who have at least a partial encoding for the protein
wrong again, dickhead. if you had literally any education in genetics or evolutionary biology, you'd have heard of a frame-shift mutation.

>You still haven't made that analogy the least bit relevant.
as I've said before, genetic distance does not mean that all traits diverge, contrary to your original claim.

>reveals total ignorance of human evolution, inability to read figures, misunderstanding of opposing argument
>i-i-it was a joke! it was just a joke!

>sad attempt at no u

>genetic distance between populations directly implies they have diverged in all traits
>I haven't claimed this at all.
refer to >>9729935
>Niggers are 70.000 years away genetically from Caucasoids and Asians. To deny differentiation in intelligence is to literally deny evolution.
that post very clearly claims that because two populations of humans have genetic distance between them, they must have diverged in intelligence, and that it goes against evolutionary principles to suggest otherwise.
why are you running from your arguments?

>Its a fair hypothesis
no, it is not a hypothesis. it is a conjecture.

[Anonymous No.9735809]

>>9735775
nothing in [5] actually disproves the claim
[6] is full of pseudoscientists and outright lies.
>Davide Piffer
Not only does he publish in stormfag pseudoscience journals (the twice-quoted paper is from fucking Mankind Quarterly, which is literally supported by grants from an organization whose stated goal is to support white supremacists; I wonder why you omitted the journal title from those citations?), he actually thinks he has ESP and psychokinesis powers.
>Wang and Su
they're legitimate researchers. unfortunately, the alleged quote appears NOWHERE in the cited paper, and its claims are entirely unsupported by the paper. when stormfags can't win an argument, they just resort to making shit up.
https://academic.oup.com/hmg/article/13/11/1131/699073
>Hardy
nothing wrong with this paper either, but it too doesn't actually say any of what the stormfag graphic says. also, there's literally no evidence to support Penrose's conjecture; it's basically just advanced autism at this point.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/413b/a8d09f208aa2ae7b1cfb3aa22e78c67deea0.pdf
>Desrivieres
This paper also says something entirely different from what the graphic does. Seeing a pattern yet?
https://www.nature.com/articles/mp2013197
>Weiss
this paper also is published in the literal stormfag journal Mankind Quarterly. surprisingly enough, the journal title was left off of this one as well; I wonder why?
>Thomas
>Mekei-Bobrov
aaand nothing in these papers actually supports the claim of the graphic.

there you have it. delusional pseudoscientists publishing in a journal that literally gets its funding from overt white supremacists, and lies about what actual scientists have said.
what was your point in posting this, anyway?

[Anonymous No.9735886]

>all these buttblasted niggers in this thread mad that whites are vastly superior in every single way

[Anonymous No.9735896]

>>9735792
Intelligence exists on such a wide spectrum that it cannot be considered to be strongly selected for. Any trait that is strongly selected for will become fixed in the population. Intelligence is not fixed therefore it is not strongly selected for.
It is far more likely that IQ differences are explained by selection against stupidity. High intelligence isn't absent from black populations, it is just less frequent. If one where to kill all blacks below IQ 100, the black race would have a higher average IQ than whites.
Notice that the fact that the genes for higher IQ exist in black populations is proof of different selective pressures between whites and blacks.

[Anonymous No.9735922]

>>9731771

[Anonymous No.9735943]

Is /sci/ just full of brown people or something? The denial is pathetic lmao

[Anonymous No.9736050]

>>9733984
Exactly. Ted Kuckzinski was right but fuck him I want science

[Anonymous No.9736053]

>>9729968
>Muh dick
Fuck off faggot

[Anonymous No.9736054]

>>9734069
Because why would you trust a person around anything if they can’t trust themselves around cake?

[Anonymous No.9736057]

>>9735886
Actually, east asians are.

[Anonymous No.9736058]

>>9735693
Or just deeply dishonest. What we’re witnessing is dishonesty

[Anonymous No.9736062]

>>9735762
Top right unironically looks Ethiopian

[Anonymous No.9736069]

>>9735809
>expecting these faggots to read

[Anonymous No.9736113]

>>9733847
I agree, however, his paetron/youtube channel would have to be managed by someone else, all he'd have to do is show up for the camera.

It would be boring a few videos in however, perhaps if the channel is to interview all paraiah scientists instead, and impart donations to the least fortunate, that'd be more interesting.

A kind of "vice" meets science guy and black science man without the political correctness or forced racial quotas.

[Anonymous No.9736118]

>>9731168
lel

[Anonymous No.9736126]

>>9731168
>stole nobel price from a woman then sold it
What a chad

[Anonymous No.9736149]

>>9736057
east asian men can't even get women of their own race

[Anonymous No.9736161]

>>9729926
James Watson will be honored by future humans.

[Anonymous No.9736309]

>>9729935
>Using the N-Word instead of [math]Basketball-Americans[/math]
>2018

[Anonymous No.9736413]

>>9734069
if you can't respect your own body why should i respect you? fucking fatties

[Anonymous No.9736478]

>>9733578
So, Ethiopia is an evidence of Black achievement without White people's help.

[Anonymous No.9736493]

Why has /sci/ become /pol/-/sci/?

What happened to this place?

[Anonymous No.9736496]

>>9729926
Thanks Nazis for permanently fucking up science for all future humans.

[Anonymous No.9736556]

>>9729926
The poeple who get upset like this are racists. They don't treat human beings as individuals, but as parts of some collective. The only way they can justify treating members of different groups by equal standards, is to convince themselves that the groups are collectively equal.
The way you judge an individual person should not depend on the qualities of other members of the persons race.

[Anonymous No.9736566]

>>9736493
>using 4chan for serious discussion of math and science
lol. The #1 sign of mental impairment.

[Anonymous No.9736675]

>>9735896
>Intelligence exists on such a wide spectrum that it cannot be considered to be strongly selected for.
false
>Any trait that is strongly selected for will become fixed in the population.
true
>Intelligence is not fixed therefore it is not strongly selected for.
false

There's undeniable evidence that being tall is strongly selected for in humans (in some populations more than others), and yet there is still significant variation in height within all those populations.
Selection drives the average, but can leave significant variability due to incomplete penetrance alone (to say nothing of other factors). You'd know that if, again, you knew literally anything about genetics.

[Anonymous No.9736739]

>>9736675
The problem here is that your definition of strong is a bit too liberal.
Skin tone and lactose tolerance are good examples of traits that are strongly selected for. If height and inteligence where as strongly selected for, we would all be 2m tall geniuses.

[Anonymous No.9736775]

>>9736739
>he doesn't understand penetrance

[Anonymous No.9736795]

>>9736775
A gene being strongly selected for would have high penetrance. If genes for height and iq had high penetrance, people would be far taller and smarter than what we see today.

[Anonymous No.9736798]

>>9730912

>there isn't a single black ran country on this planet that isn't a shithole
>IQ tests universally result in blacks getting lower scores than other races
>all forms of standardized testing and grading in the US indicate that blacks are significantly behind other races
>in any country where blacks exist as a demographic the lighter races reflect this outcome
>cue /sci/poster with head in the sand

Uh, you got a source for that wild claim?

[Anonymous No.9736805]

>>9736496

They really did hurt the naturalists a big big deal. Before WW2 naturalism was perfectly mainstream, and there was probably too much of it, people were trying to use race and genetics to causally assert everything. Post-WW2 a serious pendulum shift occurred and we went full nurturist as the collectivists and pussies took over.

Can we not having a fucking balance? There should be nothing controversial about the following statement:

>Blacks on average are less intelligent than whites (on a collective scale), but black individuals can still be smarter than white individuals

Then we could stop harping on about the discrepancy in white/asian college students and blacks and put our resources towards improving a known gap.

Instead we create this fiction about all racial groups magically having the same aptitude in everything and blaming all discrepancies on mythical glass ceilings and racism

[Anonymous No.9736823]

>>9736795
>A gene being strongly selected for would have high penetrance
you're making shit up again, senpai

[Anonymous No.9736843]

>>9736795

According to what arbitrary criteria? Apparently bipedalism/intelligence/height did evolve quickly looking at how difference our ancestors looked and thought only a million years ago (small amount of time geologically).

Humans have also been through some serious population bottlenecks the last 100,000 years, exacerbating the potential effects of divergent evolution among races.

[Anonymous No.9736849]

>>9736805
The people who think iq differences between populations are environmental likely realize on some level that they are lying.
If they really believed this, they would be calling for IMMEDIATE action to fix this atrocity. Instead they behave like vegans that claim they hold animal lives equally valuable to human lives, yet they aren't demanding hunters to be prosecuted for murder.

[Anonymous No.9736897]

>>9736823
>>9736843
If you are interested in fixation rates, go study the math yourselves. You'll find that a gene that is even mildly benficial will became fixed at absurd speed. The speed is such, that very few observations of fixation happening are known to science, because all beneficial traits are already fixed.
I had forgotten that this doesn't apply to polygenetic traits, such as intelligence and height, so turns out what i was saying isn't valid after all.
Oops.

[Anonymous No.9737449]

They just need more white in their diet.

[Anonymous No.9737480]

>>9729926
Wait a second...

Didn't he discover the DNA structure alongside with a woman who never got the same attention as Watson and Crick did? What the fuck is he complaining about...

[Anonymous No.9737506]

>>9729926
Yeah, this is nothing new, OP. Low-IQ fundamentalists -- a category which has grown recently to include neo-liberals and leftists -- will hold onto their dogmas until their dying breath. Instead of looking at the evidence and assessing the situation, they will obey their masters and think as they are told. They will never produce any argument aside from
>muh feels

More to the point, we have *no* reason to believe that all races are intellectual equivalent. They must propose evidence that intelligence is not genetic and therefore not tied to race in the slightest. An impossible task, of course. The heritability of IQ is ~0.8, on par with something like height.

What happened to Watson is similar to what happened to Copernicus. The powers that be of the time, which was the church and priestly class, were threatened by his ideas, so they sicked their stupid dogs on him. The neo-liberal establishment's narrative, and subsequently their power, would totally collapse, if we accepted that their ideology was wrong, and that not everyone is fundamentally the same. The useful idiots are doing their part.

Scientific revolutions such as this are always suppressed by the orthodoxy of the time. The sad part about all of this is that, unlike the Copernicus analogy, Watson's thoughts on race and intelligence were common knowledge, not too long ago.

[Anonymous No.9737513]

>>9736849
Hunters should be killed.

[Anonymous No.9737521]

>>9737506
Same with flat Earth. People are scared of the truth.

[Anonymous No.9737525]

>>9737521
Funny. Not including flat earth.

[Anonymous No.9737527]

>>9737521
Earth isn’t flat you fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.9737536]

>>9729972
Why don't you put your fat woman feelings aside and try to look at things objectively. You human balloon.

[Anonymous No.9737544]

>>9737527
Unwilling to question your blindly believed dogmas as usual... Likely a neo-liberal leftist just like the rest of them. Can't even consider anything that questions your worldview in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.9737548]

>>9737544
>he has to troll because he can't make any arguments showing that race and intelligence are unrelated

[Anonymous No.9737555]

>>9737548
They're related. You don't need science to determine that, just open your eyes. Your god-given eyes will reveal the truth.

[Anonymous No.9737566]

>>9737555
Glad that's settled then.

[Anonymous No.9737576]

>>9737566
Yes. Both race/IQ and flat Earth are plainly obvious. Idk why (((scientists))) push so hard against them.

[Anonymous No.9737578]

>>9737576
False equivalence. Flat earth is obviously bogus, but correlations of race and intelligence is a certified fact.

[Anonymous No.9737585]

>>9737578
False dissimilarity.

[Anonymous No.9737589]

>>9737576
Nice false-flagging. You're the only arguing for flat earth. But Watson, Nobel Prize recipient and distinguished genetic researcher, says race and intelligence and race are related. Nice try to equate Watsons opinions, and his dissent from the neo-liberal orthodoxy, to flat earth supporters. This is the best you can do because you have no arguments.

[Anonymous No.9737599]

>>9737589
You think I can't find respected scientists who were brave enough to tell the truth about flat Earth? Oh dear child...

[Anonymous No.9737638]

>>9737599
Fuck off with your flat earth trolling. The earth being flat is simply impossible because the sun does not change in angular diameter throughout the day. Done. Debunked. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.9737646]

>>9737506
Nigger he's just passing off his own opinion as fact by using his credentials to back up his anecdotes.

[Anonymous No.9737664]

>>9737638
Please. That's like insisting that your environment can influence your IQ just because a correlation has been shown there. Numbers can really make you believe in crazy things.

[Anonymous No.9737667]

>>9737664
You’re being sarcastic, right?

[Anonymous No.9737674]

>>9734134
>one probably thinks that they lazy, if he doesn't take his personal heathy seriously why would he take his job seriously?

That's a bullshit line of thought. That's like saying childless adults can't be good with youth.

[Anonymous No.9737677]

>>9734061
Obesity isn't a disease.

[Anonymous No.9737678]

>mfw the stormfags and flatheads start arguing over whether """"race realism"""" and flat-earth """"science"""" are comparable

>>9737589
>Watson, Nobel Prize recipient and distinguished genetic researcher, says race and intelligence and race are related.
how is this different from Lorentz Medal winner and distinguished physicist Freeman Dyson saying global warming is fake? credentials don't magically make your opinion right; even if you're a celebrated researcher, you have to provide evidence to back up your claims.

[Anonymous No.9737683]

>>9733867
Common core is basically a us fed attempt to make educational standards more uniform cuz many states have completely different criteria to the point that going into a different state is a radical change. It's basically

>if you are below this line bring your standards up to here (it's not that hard)
>if above some curriculum changes but not much else.

[Anonymous No.9737688]

>>9737677
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/262226.php

You’re fat, aren’t you?

[Anonymous No.9737689]

>>9733956
Anon people used the dark folk are Hornier/will accept any sexual advance meme to justify raping them or sexually abusing them.

[Anonymous No.9737690]

>>9737678
Watch out. These people think climate change isn’t real either.

[Anonymous No.9737693]

>>9737688
Im not. That group just declared it as such as some rallying call to force some "urgency".

[Anonymous No.9737698]

>>9737693
Disease
:dis·ease
dəˈzēz/Submit
noun
a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific signs or symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury.

[Anonymous No.9737736]

>>9737678
You mean how you just false-flagged as the guy trying to tie flat earth and race realism together.

[Anonymous No.9737738]

>>9733065
>>9733131
Report posters like this. You need to get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.9737742]

I dont' see what's wrong, people don't want associate with a racist.

All this talk about IQ is really just a way for racists to express their belief in exterminating "inferior" people.

[Anonymous No.9737743]

There's an undeniable link between race and intelligence and the only reason to deny this is political. Thus any posters crying about /pol/ are violating board rules. Report them and move on.

[Anonymous No.9737744]

>>9737743
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.9737749]

>>9737744
Eventually this kind of shit is going to get people killed. But keep acting this way.

[Anonymous No.9737753]

>>9737742
You are literally not a human being though. Human beings are capable of rational thinking. Prove that you're sentient and not some p-zombie.

[Anonymous No.9737757]

>>9737678
>how is this different from Lorentz Medal winner and distinguished physicist Freeman Dyson saying global warming is fake?

Firstly, he's just noting that the predictive models -- that were accepted by the scientific community, by the way -- have been proven false time and time again merely by observed data. This means that the mathematical models we are using are wrong.

Here's a direct quote: "[m]y objections to the global warming propaganda are not so much over the technical facts, about which I do not know much, but it’s rather against the way those people behave and the kind of intolerance to criticism that a lot of them have." He correctly notes that it is heretical to claim that the models might be wrong, even though observed data consistently disproves their validity.

So, he was actually speaking about the mathematics by which they were assessing climate change. This is a subject he *is* an expert in. I understand that cognitive dissonance can be a disturbing feeling, but try to think a little harder about this.

Also, Watson is, again, speaking directly to his area of expertise: genetics. He claims there is a racial, i.e. genetic, component to intelligence. Are you going to argue that this isn't the case?

[Anonymous No.9737783]

>>9737757
>Firstly, he's just noting that the predictive models -- that were accepted by the scientific community, by the way -- have been proven false time and time again merely by observed data. This means that the mathematical models we are using are wrong.
The models have been accurate for decades: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/climate-model-projections-compared-to-observations/

>So, he was actually speaking about the mathematics by which they were assessing climate change. This is a subject he *is* an expert in.
Apparently not.

[Anonymous No.9737794]

>>9729935
How can they be 70,000 years in the past if it's 2018

[Anonymous No.9737802]

Thats fucked up. I cant beleive the scientific community has done this it makes me lament the state of the human race. Its better to aknowledge an inelligence disparity and try to help out lesser iq phenotypes than to ignore it and not even help them catch up.

[Anonymous No.9737807]

>>9737802
His comment isn't even about that though anon. It's literally him trying to pass off opinion as fact and using his cred to substantiate it.

[Anonymous No.9737810]

>>9737749
How? That once poor countries develop their IQ scores start to match developed ones as seen in Asia and poorer parts of Europe?

[Anonymous No.9737825]

>>9737783
The models are getting better, but there is a distinct, positive skew on the most recent ones...

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming

Is it wrong to look at this and say that we may be overreacting in regards to some policy? Also, look at the underestimates of 95, and 00. This probably caused a lot of hysteria and people to think that we were heating out-of-control. I think this is the stuff he was getting at.

>the models have been accurate
>accurate

To what standard is the debate here.

[Anonymous No.9737828]

>>9737736
>>9737738
>mad /pol/acks
not an argument, friendo

[Anonymous No.9737830]

>>9737757
>the predictive models have been proven false time and time again merely by observed data
>>9737825
>The models are getting better
>accurate to what standard is the debate here
wow just look at that backsliding

[Anonymous No.9737843]

>>9737830
>he wants to debate climate prediction instead of race and intelligence because he has no argument

You realize that, if we held these models to a standard of being accurate to say, a degree of 15%, almost all of them would fail. It can be difficult to make policy off of this sort of thing. It's no surprise that this is my point and exactly the point that went over your head.

[Anonymous No.9737849]

oh shit nigga so u be sayin that we wuz intellectually just as capable as whitey? damn

[Anonymous No.9737871]

>>9737843
>brings up climate models
>gets salty when proven wrong about climate models
lmao
>if we held these models to a standard of being accurate to say, a degree of 15%, almost all of them would fail
not only is this false, "accurate to a degree of 15%" is a meaningless phrase in the context of climate modeling.

[Anonymous No.9737885]

>>9737871
I'm not salty, I'm just pointing out that climate is a red herring in the context of intelligence and race.

[Anonymous No.9737895]

>>9736057
Yeah, they're so superior that the Westerners have to teach them modern technology.

[Anonymous No.9738248]

>>9737843
The models already have error ranges that determine whether they are accurate. See your own link >>9737825

What error range do you need before you admit that if we continue to emit massive quantities of greenhouse gases, the world will rapidly warm? Because the current error ranges already show this.

[Anonymous No.9738269]

>>9729926
>say outrageous things that only someone with autism would say
>piss everyone off
>everyone disavows you
>*cries*
Talk shit, get hit etc. He kind of reminds of pic related, another great man whose complete and utter inability to keep his mouth shut ruined what could have been a much more successful (and blemish-free) career.


>b-but I think what he said is true! fuck <group I don't like>!
>he's being repressed!
>THE TRUTH IS BEING REPRESSED!
Doesn't matter if it's true or not (arguable under the best of circumstances).
If I told you that you could have a long and fulfilling career as a Nobel Prize-winning biologist, making millions upon millions of dollars, but that all of it could be taken away if you said, "Rape has a higher conception rate than consensual sex"... would you
A) keep your fucking mouth shut, or
B) fuck over yourself and everyone else by saying it even though it is outside of your field of expertise

Just because you CAN say something doesn't mean you SHOULD. Whether you think its true or not doesn't matter. Watson knew the shitstorm he would cause, and he reaped the shit whirlwind. End of story.

[Anonymous No.9738271]

>>9738269
Weakling.

[Anonymous No.9738280]

>>9736478
Yes? What are (You) implying?

[Anonymous No.9738291]

>>9733065
fuck you faggot

[Anonymous No.9738297]

>>9733065
>implying that the ability to synthesize lysine is at all comparable to abstract thought.
you're as dumb as they come

[Anonymous No.9738318]

>>9738269
b, easy. I'm a biochemist and I speak out against circumcision whenever I can. Also, your 'b' example isn't exactly applicable because what Watson was saying wasn't outside his area of expertise.

[Anonymous No.9738334]

>>9738271
t. autist who doesn't know words can fuck you over real quick

[Anonymous No.9738337]

>>9738334
No, i'm an autist who knows that words can fuck me over, but i'm not a neurotypical weakling conformist, who will willingly allow his words and actions to be dictated by the mental shortcomings of angry mobs.

[Anonymous No.9738359]

>>9738269
>Doesn't matter if it's true or not
I want to kick you in the face
truth should be the only thing a scientist (if not all human beings) should be concerned with

but I take it you want to say "be like Galileo and not like Giordano Bruno"

[Anonymous No.9738384]

>>9737585
it's literally not though, one is true and has evidence and one does not, ergo dissimilar with respect to truth value

[Anonymous No.9738406]

>>9736062
Ethiopia was the original name for Africa. However, it was renamed Africa to honor Scipio Africanus and his genocide of then ethiopians.

[Anonymous No.9738411]

>>9738297
>ability to think abstractly has to differ markedly across populations
>because traits always diverge when you separate populations, it's denying evolution to claim otherwise
>but biochemistry has to remain the same
>cuz it's DIFFERENT

stormfags are unable to explain why they believe this. it's just DIFFERENT, guys! traits have to diverge no matter what the conditions are, but only the ones that I say!

[Anonymous No.9738421]

>>9738337
kk have fun selling your ass on the street

[Anonymous No.9738423]

>>9738359
fucking retard

Let me try it again
If I say you do X, Y will happen
and you still do X
you have no one to blame but yourself when Y happens to you

I don't know if it's true or not. But it doesn't matter. Kind of like if I say DON'T PRESS THE RED BUTTON and you press it anyway. Cause and effect

[Anonymous No.9738426]

>>9738318
>I speak out against circumcision whenever I can

As to I, since my genitals were mutilated without my consent, which flies in the face of everything Western society values.

HOWEVER
If you were working in, say, a Hasidic Jewish enclave of New York City or Jerusalem, and saying such a thing could cost you your job, you would have no one to blame but yourself if you got shitcanned. Cause and effect, which has NOTHING to do with the relative merits.

[Anonymous No.9738497]

>>9733879
left > centre >>>>>>>> right

fight me

[Anonymous No.9738500]

>>9735770
> the savannas and rainforests of the continent do not have fruit dangling off every branch like you seem to think
Science disagrees with you.
Africa’s Indigenous Fruit Trees: A Blessing in Decline -
_Farmers have been able to enjoy the fruit of these plentiful wild trees without developing any knowledge of how to propagate them successfully; they haven’t needed to._
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4671247/

Literally first article I googled. There are tons of anecdotal evidence of this as well. You aren't even trying, are you, shillhole?

[Anonymous No.9738536]

>>9738500
>wild fruit trees exist in Africa
>therefore there's just fruit errywhere
I hope you're sitting down, because it turns out EUROPE (PRE)HISTORICALLY HAD WILD FRUIT TREES AS WELL
>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ferran_Antolin/publication/265143282_Wild_fruit_use_among_early_farmers_in_the_Neolithic_5400-2300_cal_BC_in_the_north-east_of_the_Iberian_Peninsula_an_intensive_practice/links/552ac7db0cf2779ab792f04d.pdf

[Anonymous No.9738641]

>>9738536
NO!

[Anonymous No.9738642]

>>9738500
nigga what the fuck am I reading

[Anonymous No.9738656]

>>9738536
THAT CANNOT BE

[Anonymous No.9738668]

>>9738536
This demonstrates the incoherency of antiracists.

>EUROPE HAS SOME FRUIT TREES TOO
>HAHAHA BTFO

As if there's any similarity between SSA and Europe's ecology. Antiracists are dumb and dishonest, not motivated by truth.

[Anonymous No.9738673]

I've already won this argument.

This is what antiracists will do.

Ignore all arguments.
Pretend facts don't exist.
Cry about /pol/.
Shit their pants.

This is why it's important for us to organize and physically force antiracists out of universities. This isn't a free speech issue because we're not the government. Antiracist staff, professors and students should be intimidated, harassed, and if necessary, assaulted, until they leave university.

[Anonymous No.9738675]

>>9738668
NO!

[Anonymous No.9738681]

>>9738673
GO TO HELL /POL/TARD! THERE ARE LIKE 3215621452 MORE FRUITREES IN EUROPE, THATS WHY THEY ARE BETTER OFF! I JUST SHIT MY PANTS AND I WILL NEVER LEAVE UNIVERSITY

[Anonymous No.9738684]

>>9738675
If you are antiracist, your views don't come about as a result of free thought, but intimidation and social conformism. A free society must punish those who engage in conspiracies to suppress truth. Kill antiracists.

[Anonymous No.9738685]

>>9738684
NO!

[Anonymous No.9738703]

>>9738684
The ultimate redpill.

[Anonymous No.9738757]

>>9738668
>Africa has loads of easy-to-harvest wild fruit, unlike Europe
>no, I don't need to provide any evidence for this
>therefore Africa wouldn't select for high intelligence and Europe would
>therefore white people absolutely have to be inherently smarter than black people and anyone who suggests otherwise is denying evolution
>what no, I don't have to show any evidence to support my claims
>I said it, so it's a fact, and if you don't like it, you're pretending facts don't exist!

also:
>SSA and Europe aren't the same
>therefore one requires high intelligence to survive in and the other doesn't
tropical wet-dry seasonality and temperate winter-summer seasonality are quite different, but both require the same kind of capacity to think abstractly and plan ahead.

when you make your conclusion first and then try to find ways to bend the facts into supporting it, it kinda shows.

>>9738641
>>9738656
>>9738675
>>9738681
>>9738685
obvious samefag

[Anonymous No.9738965]

>>9729935
>70.000 years away genetically from Caucasoids and Asians
>Implying Caucasoids and Asians have the same level of intelligence.
They're not exactly 70,000 years away from each other, but white-dominant countries are profoundly average when it comes to IQ. South Korea and Japan basically make up for the countries dominated by black people who would literally be considered mentally retarded if they were white.

There's also a strange outlier that doesn't exactly fit with any one country, and it's a certain dwindling ethnic group known for their attraction to numbers....

[Anonymous No.9738982]

>>9738684
actual call to violence, against 4chans rules but if i report you the mods will ban me. go figure eh

maybe its inaction against people like yourself, through fear of comebacks, that make the world a shit place

[Anonymous No.9738998]

>>9736798

why is the spic now white? did all the steroids strip his puerto rican melanin?

[Anonymous No.9739007]

>>9738757
As usual, antiracist shifts burden of proof, denies all evidence, and pretends facts don't exist, just like I predicted. Why can't you just be honest?

[Anonymous No.9739009]

>>9738982
Maybe you should go to another website, you know, pretty much every other website, that bans the /pol/ meanies who get you so upset? Why are you such a masochist?

[Anonymous No.9739010]

>>9739007
racists overgeneralize

[Anonymous No.9739011]

>>9739010
You got a source for that? Just because you say it's so doesn't make it fact! Dumb antiracist, go back to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.9739058]

>>9739007
>I can't find any evidence to support my claims, therefore I'll pretend that it's your job to prove me wrong and claim that I've already posted all the evidence I need and everyone's just ignoring it
>projecting this hard

the sum total of the supporting evidence you've posted is one (1) article pointing out that there are wild fruit trees in Africa. and when I pointed out that there are also wild fruit trees in Europe, you about shit your pants.

[Anonymous No.9739065]

>>9735761
Niggers are disgusting. :(

[Anonymous No.9739079]

All the scientific research indicating race exists and intelligence is genetic will be overturned eventually and the "anti-racists" will be proven right. It's like how science progresses, right "racists" understand evolutionary psychology as well as the people before Kepler understood that motions of the planets. So we're at the epicycle stage, then we'll get the Kepler, Newton, Einstein and it'll come full circle, race won't be a meaningful concept and intelligence will be largely do to upbringing and random chance (more effort really).

[Anonymous No.9739101]

>>9739079
You sound like a religious prophet.
>the day of coming of the anti-racist messiah is near!

I'm sorry but all the evidence will prove the "racist" point of view (in reality not racist at all).

[Anonymous No.9739111]

>>9739101
Well either of us could easily be right because evolutionary psychology is shit as of right now don't you agree?

[Anonymous No.9739114]

>>9739111
Why is it shit? It's the closest thing to science is the entire social sciences.

[Anonymous No.9739125]

>>9739114
it's too embyronic
when we sequence the connectome and things like that
Also allow unethical experiments raising children in various (rigorous) environments
then we'll know, like I said we're explaining the motions of the planets with epicycles right now

[Anonymous No.9739131]

>>9739125
>it's too embyronic
So what? However embryonic a science, if its results established so far are supported by the scientific method, it is valid. Physics was also "embryonic" in Newton's times, which doesn't disprove Newton's results.

>when we sequence the connectome and things like that
It's already starting.

>Also allow unethical experiments raising children in various (rigorous) environments
No need to be unethical. You can already do that, it's called twin adoption studies.

[Anonymous No.9739142]

>>9729935
>Intelligence is linked to race
yes and beds are linked to bed wetting, but that doesn't mean that bed wetting cause beds

[Anonymous No.9739156]

>>9739142
Asinine comment. We're talking about phenotypes and genotypes here, not bed wetting.

[Anonymous No.9739164]

>>9739142
>the absolute state

[Anonymous No.9739170]

>>9729972
>>9729938
>scientists cant have opinions
liberals are fucking hypocrites man

[Anonymous No.9739177]

>>9739156
>>9739164
poltards detected

[Anonymous No.9739181]

>>9739131
twin adoption studies are not rigorous enough when were dealing with psychology and thoughts and shit
we literally need to thought-police a bunch of kids in a bunch of different ways and see how they turn out to be sure
people have random thoughts and whatnot, that can snowball

And Einstein definitely completely BTFO Newton, just like Newton BTFO Kepler
how was Newton not disproven? How could you even say that?

[Anonymous No.9739182]

>>9739177
feels good to be on the right side of history :^)

[Anonymous No.9739183]

>>9739181
>twin adoption studies are not rigorous enough when were dealing with psychology and thoughts and shit
Says who? You? Can I see your credentials? You do have a Phd in psychometrics, don't you? Oh no, you don't?

>And Einstein definitely completely BTFO Newton
Yeah, I mean who uses newtonian physics anymore! Fucking nigger retard.

[Anonymous No.9739187]

>>9739183
Faggot

[Anonymous No.9739191]

>>9729926

[Anonymous No.9739193]

>>9739156
you didn't understand the analogy, smartypants?

[Anonymous No.9739195]

>>9739177
>calling out someone for a logically fallacious statement is considered bad
this fucking retard

You replied to a comment saying "intelligence is linked to race" with "yes and beds are linked to bed wetting, but that doesn't mean that bed wetting cause beds". Do you understand how retarded this is?

[Anonymous No.9739200]

>>9739195
its a reference to one of the most fundamental basics of statistics

[Anonymous No.9739201]

>>9729926
Dude was a dick who basically stole a couple other peoples work and slapped his name on it with his buddy. Crick was a pretty cool dude who went on to do some awesome shit. Watson just got a more and more inflated ego, I don't think he deserves to be ostracized but I understand why people are wary of working with him when his ideas on bioethics are so out there.

[Anonymous No.9739206]

If you're talking about who's smarter than who that's measurable but if you're talking about who could potentially be smarter that's a different story

[Anonymous No.9739208]

>>9739058
As usual, antiracist denies all evidence. I've already called out your dumb behavior before, you can give up.

[Anonymous No.9739213]

Where are the biomarkers for stupidity?

[Anonymous No.9739214]

>>9739079
Do you have any reason to believe this? (No).
>>9739177
Antiracist brainlet. Reminder to report posts like this, they don't contribute to the discussion.

[Anonymous No.9739217]

>>9739213
Dark skin. Wide noses. Frizzy hair

[Anonymous No.9739219]

>>9739193
It's a fallacious analogy. You can also do it the other way.

>intelligence is linked to race the same way the tides are linked to the moon
It's completely retarded. You must either be a brainlet or a nigger (or both).

[Anonymous No.9739222]

>>9739200
the statement that beds are linked to bed wetting is true because you can only wet your bed on a bed, and it is also true that beds don't cause bed wetting, but please tell me how that links to intelligence being linked to race?

I understand the setbacks in argument on my behalf, so there is no reason for you to not be able to answer this question, unless you admit that your response was indeed retarded

[Anonymous No.9739223]

>>9739208
>>9739214
>anti-racist is an insult

[Anonymous No.9739224]

>>9736057
Shhh

[Anonymous No.9739228]

>>9729972
lol found the cunt.

[Anonymous No.9739229]

>>9739214
my reason is I don't trust you
also this is all very new research
people throw around the n-word like it's nothing and you expect me to believe anything you say about race, you've gotta be kidding me
psychometrics is very similar to just tracking patterns like epicycles isn't it?
we need rawer stuff

[Anonymous No.9739243]

>>9739222
"Bed wetting" is just the inaccurate popular tongue for nocturnal enuresis. The definition of bed wetting is involuntary urination while sleeping. Now, you usually sleep in beds, but the bed itself really has nothing to do with the condition.

>... but please tell me how that links to intelligence being linked to race?
Correlation does not imply causation

[Anonymous No.9739245]

>>9739079
do you have real evidence now, and not some hypothetical "future evidence" that will finally prove you right?

[Anonymous No.9739247]

>>9739219
it's an excellent analogy, but its not for brainlets

[Anonymous No.9739250]

>>9739243
The problem is we have about 100 years of statistical data supporting a link between intelligence and race, whereas we have no statistical proof that beds cause bed wetting.

So your analogy falls flat.

[Anonymous No.9739254]

>>9739245
evidence that future evidence will come to light? well we don't know a lot and racism is pretty deeply ingrained in a lot of people, so that's the best evidence I've got
that's a silly question anyway, my prediction isn't really testable

[Anonymous No.9739255]

>>9739247
>brainlet
hol up hol up you beez sayin intellegence beez a social construct

[Anonymous No.9739262]

>>9739223
It is.

[Anonymous No.9739269]

>>9739262
>racism is a good thing that should be celebrated and encouraged. Hail the ethnostate!

[Anonymous No.9739273]

>>9739250
statistical data that results from simplification of an abstract problem to the point where the results are no longer accurate

[Anonymous No.9739276]

>>9739273
Once again, says who? You? A random nigger on the internet?

You have as much credibility as saying that global warming " results from simplification of an abstract problem to the point where the results are no longer accurate"

[Anonymous No.9739277]

>>9739269
Its good until you end up on the receiving end. But that will never happen... Right?

What do you mean you only hire Chinese?

[Anonymous No.9739292]

>>9738269
The answer is B) and it's disturbing to see you equate the end goal of science with a Nobel prize rather than truth.

[Anonymous No.9739295]

>>9739276
reminder that you are also a "nigger on the internet"

IQ and race is more complex than global warming. It's easier to measure global warming than it is to measure how someone's background effects the outcome of an IQ test.

[Anonymous No.9739296]

>>9733836
Because what exactly does it accomplish? So let’s say without a doubt that 100% accurate knowledge comes out that those with 75% or more negroid blood have a 20IQ difference from the rest of the world. People aren’t going to suddenly be okay with a mass genocide of blacks the world over, as there will always be outliers above the mean and we don’t tend to execute retards unless you’re Texan. What do you plan to do with this knowledge once it has been proven? Pat yourself on the back? Go smoke cigars in celebration?

>researchers begin press release
>we are proud to announce our decades long study has been completed
>it is our humble honor to that niggers r dumb
>good job everyone! Yay science!

[Anonymous No.9739300]

>>9736805
First step is to use the available evidence that the "black-white-asian" races are not valid clusters. Then it's much easier to accept the rest because people won't feel threatened.

[Anonymous No.9739314]

>>9739295
global warming is literally energy in = energy out
medical, genetic, psychological shit is just next level
look im probably stupid but I'd hate to think it's because I'm melanin-enriched or just because I was born this way
We should at least look into non-heritable intelligence. The whole heritable intelligence thing is easy as fuck to say, it's not groundbreaking, it's just a touchy subject.
We're gonna find out that intelligence isn't as heritable as we think (hopefully a lot less).

[Anonymous No.9739315]

>>9737480
Not true, she did not get the Nobel because she was dead. Now she's getting a lot of attention because she's a woman. Meanwhile some other women like Emmy Noether or Maud Menten get nothing because there is no conspiracy theory about them.

[Anonymous No.9739321]

>>9737506
I would rather compare him to Giordano Bruno. He did not provide any scientific evidence for his claims, even if at the bottom it happened to be true

[Anonymous No.9739327]

>>9739277
>pre-emptive racism

[Anonymous No.9739331]

>>9739315
>conspiracy
but we know exactly what happened
Barbera McLintock discovered transposable elements, no Nobel
maybe it's just not that big of a deal so he not a hotshot for discovering the double helix

[Anonymous No.9739334]

>>9739314
One of the great issues with measuring the causes of intelligence is that its both environmental and genetic

[Anonymous No.9739385]

>>9739331
Barbara McLintock got the Nobel in 1983, what are you talking about?
Also her ideas were quite controversial at the time. A little bit like Watson now.

[Anonymous No.9739452]

>>9739208
>maybe if I keep saying I've got evidence people will believe me
so far, the evidence posted in this thread in support of your claims consists of:
>africans are the out-group to europeans, asians, and native americans >>9734816
>a bunch of uncited, uncorrected figures for IQ >>9735765
>some false claims unsupported by the referenced articles, along with papers published in a literal white supremacist journal >>9735775
>africa has wild fruit trees in it >>9738500

that's literally all you've got.
if there actually was evidence to support your claims, you'd think you'd have gone and cited some by now rather than pretending that you already did. but you haven't. imagine that...

[Anonymous No.9739466]

/pol/tards feel free to stop posting any time now

the bullshit you get away with in your safe space doesn't fly here

[Anonymous No.9739509]

>>9739466
why is the inside of the door to /his/ labeled /pol/ though? are they immediately adjacent? /his/ having a door to /pol/ in it would just be bad planning.

[Anonymous No.9739641]

>>9729935
>70.000 years
Well that's not too long. Africa will be where we are by 2088.

[Anonymous No.9739644]

>>9730888
England isn't in a position to negotiate anymore. If someone asks you to apologize, you better do it. China has more pull than you do now, lol. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.9739648]

>>9731820
If you control for public perceptions of race everyone performs the same on average.

[Anonymous No.9739664]

>>9729935
Do you not fucking understand that humans haven't undergone speciation yet?

[Anonymous No.9739666]

>>9739509
/his/torian here, we are basically stuck between /pol/ and /leftypol/.

[Anonymous No.9739667]

>>9732106
Kek, you just disproved your own point. Dog breeds have no biological basis in fact and are unironically a human construct.

[Anonymous No.9739681]

>>9729926

[Anonymous No.9739682]

>>9738497
>left
This e

[Anonymous No.9739688]

>>9735886
Vastly superior to nignogs maybe, kek. No match for the Ashkenazi P H E N O T Y P E.
>>9736149
You're unironically saying the same shit that niggers say to cope with their low IQ.
"We fuk yo bitch!!!"

[Anonymous No.9739699]

>>9738497
Just like in politics. ;^)

[Anonymous No.9739732]

>>9731132
http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/fryer-levitt%20infant%20mental%20function.pdf
https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf
http://www.mdpi.com/2079-3200/5/1/1/htm
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9280.2006.01802.x

[Anonymous No.9740018]

>>9739666
So centrists and moderates? Cause that’s literally what you described. The world is seriously lacking in them so keep on keepin on /his/. Need you now more than ever.

[Anonymous No.9740624]

I don't get it - why it's so controversial to say that whites and blacks are different species? I mean, it's fucking obvious. Also - it's accepted widely nowadays that whites and asians are actually mix of african migrants and neanderthals, thus a hybrid. In other words - science confirms that we are different species. Different species aren't worse and better - they are just different of each other.

[Anonymous No.9740831]

>>9740624
>I don't get it - why it's so controversial to say that whites and blacks are different species?

Because it's not politically correct.

[Anonymous No.9740835]

>>9740831
Or scientifically correct

[Anonymous No.9740842]

>>9740624
>>9740831
because race realism is pseudoscientific bullshit and you have to be a massive fucking brainlet to believe it

[Anonymous No.9740885]

>>9731132
You don't need a fucking paper about why 1 number is bigger than the other

Google "average black american IQ". The answer is about 85

[Anonymous No.9740888]

>>9739466
You're in a place for discussing *science* and you're still unable to let go of your idiotic delusions about how people saying negative things about non-whites is "racist"

>the bullshit you get away with in your safe space doesn't fly here
Yes, apparently even /sci/ has been infected with this crap

[Anonymous No.9740943]

>>9740888
You like to think that you're being persecuted for your political beliefs when people disagree with you. You're like one of those colored people who breaks the law and then starts calling the police a racist when they eventually get arrested.

Being politically incorrect is not an excuse for being factually incorrect.

[Anonymous No.9740965]

>>9740885
Not a single study has managed to outrule sociological factors, and race is a social construct. To state that intelligence is linked to race is thereof quite the dubious claim.

[Anonymous No.9741234]

>>9729938
Based