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Is a proton beam acidic?

>> No.9703873

>>9703822
acidity is a property of molecules so i wouldnt think so?

>> No.9703878

>>9703873
>forgetting the basic definition of the pH scale
Time to go back to gen chem, bucko

>> No.9703895

>>9703878
i have never had a chemistry class in my life ;^)

>> No.9703901

>>9703878
also after looking it up on wikipedia i think still think you are wrong if u think a proton beam is acidic, boy

>> No.9703903

>>9703895
Oh it shows.

>> No.9703912

>>9703903
how so?

>> No.9703916

>>9703901
Sure but the answer definitely isn't because acidity is a property exclusive to molecules

>> No.9704029

>>9703822
Protons are, technically, a Lewis acid.

>> No.9704053

Are stars acidic?

>> No.9704095

>>9703822
It's moving to fast for chemical kinetics to play a factor

>> No.9704371

>>9704095
what if an intermediate were used to transfer the high energy protons to a molecular reaction partner? Say, firing a proton beam through a stream of fluorocarbons to produce a super acidic protonated species?

>> No.9704382

>>9704371
Thats how babies are made

>> No.9704387

>>9703873
protons are the most acidic thing. The free protons that shed of off the acidic molecules are the actual radical elements. If you shoot matter with a beam of protons, it should have a corrosive effect like acid. This thread asks a smart question.

>> No.9704395

>>9704387
bound protons with elections, H, but free with respect to their donator molecules in solution. When the S orbital is missing both electrons, does that make it "twice as a acidic?" I don't know exactly what the technical definition of an acid is.

>> No.9704398

>>9704387
>>9704395
>namefag is retarded
shocking

>> No.9704407

>>9703878
>proton beams have a hydronium concentration
Really activates your almonds.

>> No.9704414

Wikipedia says a an acid is a proton donor, so a proton beam is one. This was a good question.

>> No.9704422

>>9704407
>proton beams have a hydronium concentration
Where does the oxygen come from inside the proton beam, they usually pull a vacuum inside the beam tube before they turn it on? Or is hydronium part of the definition of an acid?

>> No.9704425

Alkaline ftw

>> No.9704426
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>>9704414
>Wikipedia says
>>9704422
Holy shit you're dumb

>> No.9704427

An acid is a substance that donates hydrogen ions. Because of this, when an acid is dissolved in water, the balance between hydrogen ions and hydroxide ions is shifted. Now there are more hydrogen ions than hydroxide ions in the solution. This kind of solution is acidic.

>> No.9704443

>proton beams are concentrated acid going a substantial fraction of c

i like it

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>>9704053

>> No.9705898

Insults aside what actually happens when you shoot a beam of protons at matter?

>> No.9705905

>>9705898
the same thing that happens when you shoot a bullet at matter, more or less. if the protons are moving slowly enough to interact with the matter, they transfer kinetic energy to it, causing chemical dissociation, heating, etc.

>> No.9705960

>>9703878
Ph level is to do with electrons you fucking ass hat!

>> No.9706060

>>9703822
>>9703878

Proton does not exist in chemistry brainlet

>> No.9706121

I genuinely cant tell if everyone is this thread is memeing or the level of chemistry education is actually that low.

>> No.9706133

Holy shit this thread is still up and i thought i was uneducated holy shit.

>> No.9706317

>>9706060
>what is hydrogen cation

>> No.9706449

>>9706121
OP here. I know the answer is "No, not really;" but the point was to see someone explain why.